Hi great wizards, I have noticed that if I have a tree open in FTM2012, then try to open another tree in a new window - The FTM application initializing banner sits there and if I minimise all windows back to my desktop I see a small window which says tree does not exist Rubbish I say to this little window, close it and FTM opens with the Create New Tree window. I then click on the tree I tried to open in a new window previously and it does. I now have both my trees open and can move between the both of them. This did not happen in FTM2011 where I could open trees in new windows without any problems Why is this so ?????

Family Tree Maker Message Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.software.famtreemaker/mb.ashx Ancestry Site Comment Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.ancestry.ancsite/mb.ashx Ancestry Improvements Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.ancestry.ancimprovements/mb.ashx Ancestry Member Tree Board: http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.ancestry.membertree.membertrees/mb.ashx -----Original Message----- From: Ali <avws2601@sympatico.ca> To: ftm-tech <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Oct 24, 2011 11:11 pm Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field To: ? Apologies, I do not know your name. I am interested in having a look at some of those Ancestry message boards that you mentioned. Do you have an address. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: aghatchett3rd@aim.com To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field Linda, Perhaps the messages on *this* list tend toward the positive but... it is far different story on the Ancestry message boards themselves. -----Original Message----- From: Linda H Gutierrez <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: ftm-tech <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Oct 22, 2011 10:37 pm Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field Ali, The subject of the email was about the description field and that is where John recommended not adding source information. I believe that you are using FTM 2011? Those same fields are in FTM 2011. To the contrary, most of the comments I have seen on this list regarding the sync feature have been positive. The two things to keep in mind are: 1. If you have a lot of media and the media has not been resized, the initial upload may take a long time, especially if done during busy times of the day. 2. If you use the templates in FTM for your sources or have a very specific way of handling them, then you should only sync up and not make any changes in your AMT, only in your FTM file. You can always use a test file to try it out. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Ali Sent: Saturday, 22 October, 2011 9:06 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field John Do not use what for sources? I do not have v2012 yet and want to be clear where and what it is you are referring to that we should not use. This new version seems to have to upset more users than any other new version. I know from what I have read so far I will not be using the Sync feature. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: John Donaldson To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field The only thing I would add to this discussion is not to use it for sources If you do, you nullify the ability to show sources and charts and reports and also use the source usage reports etc John Donaldson ********************************** ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I received v2012 today. It loaded with no problem. However, I was disappointed to see that everything looked the same. The only difference I have seen so far is the Sync feature which I'm not all that excited about. Is there something else that I may have missed? Ali

To: ? Apologies, I do not know your name. I am interested in having a look at some of those Ancestry message boards that you mentioned. Do you have an address. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: aghatchett3rd@aim.com To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 12:40 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field Linda, Perhaps the messages on *this* list tend toward the positive but... it is far different story on the Ancestry message boards themselves. -----Original Message----- From: Linda H Gutierrez <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: ftm-tech <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Oct 22, 2011 10:37 pm Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field Ali, The subject of the email was about the description field and that is where John recommended not adding source information. I believe that you are using FTM 2011? Those same fields are in FTM 2011. To the contrary, most of the comments I have seen on this list regarding the sync feature have been positive. The two things to keep in mind are: 1. If you have a lot of media and the media has not been resized, the initial upload may take a long time, especially if done during busy times of the day. 2. If you use the templates in FTM for your sources or have a very specific way of handling them, then you should only sync up and not make any changes in your AMT, only in your FTM file. You can always use a test file to try it out. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Ali Sent: Saturday, 22 October, 2011 9:06 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field John Do not use what for sources? I do not have v2012 yet and want to be clear where and what it is you are referring to that we should not use. This new version seems to have to upset more users than any other new version. I know from what I have read so far I will not be using the Sync feature. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: John Donaldson To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field The only thing I would add to this discussion is not to use it for sources If you do, you nullify the ability to show sources and charts and reports and also use the source usage reports etc John Donaldson **********************************

Thanks Linda & John D for your helpful replies. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda H Gutierrez To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 1:56 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field Ali, ANY description field! Sources need to be put where sources are suppose to be put. You can have as many trees on Ancestry as you wish. File #1 will link and sync to Tree #1 online, File #2 will link and sync to Tree #2, etc. One has nothing to do with the other. With a feature of this complexity there are bound to be some issues. Just like each person's Ancestry is different so are everyone's Family Trees and those differences can bring up issues that may have not come up during the testing phase of the software. As long as you keep a good copy of your file(s), then if any issues arise when you attempt to sync, you can always fall back on you’re the copy of your file. One should always have more than one back-up. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Ali Sent: Saturday, 22 October, 2011 9:58 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field Linda I use several description fields. He was not clear about which one he was warning against, that was my concern. I guess we are reading different comments because most of the problems I've read so far are about the sync feature. Media I have no problem with as I have not added any media other than what Ancestry supplies from a search. I'm wondering what happens if one has more than one tree on Ancestry? How will the sync feature work then? I have separated a branch and made a tree from my main tree. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda H Gutierrez To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field Ali, The subject of the email was about the description field and that is where John recommended not adding source information. I believe that you are using FTM 2011? Those same fields are in FTM 2011. To the contrary, most of the comments I have seen on this list regarding the sync feature have been positive. The two things to keep in mind are: 1. If you have a lot of media and the media has not been resized, the initial upload may take a long time, especially if done during busy times of the day. 2. If you use the templates in FTM for your sources or have a very specific way of handling them, then you should only sync up and not make any changes in your AMT, only in your FTM file. You can always use a test file to try it out. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Ali Sent: Saturday, 22 October, 2011 9:06 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field John Do not use what for sources? I do not have v2012 yet and want to be clear where and what it is you are referring to that we should not use. This new version seems to have to upset more users than any other new version. I know from what I have read so far I will not be using the Sync feature. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: John Donaldson To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Just Loaded 2012- Description field The only thing I would add to this discussion is not to use it for sources If you do, you nullify the ability to show sources and charts and reports and also use the source usage reports etc John Donaldson ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When I know the birth order, but not the date of birth, I use "Abt" and a logical year of birth from the known birth order. G. E. "Robbie" Robinson Meridian, ID 83646

I'm using V 2012, sorry I should have said. I will try the compacting just as soon as I have another one... they happen only randomly. I tried the same record a few minutes ago and it worked this time... so this would be a very hard error to replicate. Mary On 10/24/2011 9:47 PM, David C Abernathy wrote: > Mary, > What version of FTM are you having this issue with? > When there is NO marriage, then the bar is a "Add spouse" link. > When there is a marriage, just clicking the "Married to bar" should open the > current marriage "Fact, Notes and Media" pane. > > The icon and marriage bar will not open the "Marriage Facts, Notes and > Media" as there is no marriage to add this information about. That is why > there is the "Add spouse" button when there is no marriage. > > Thanks, > David C Abernathy > Email disclaimers > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Mary W. Ellis Registrar Battle of Alamance DAR http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncacgs/ http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mwellis/ http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncalaman/ (Brick Church site)

I also forgot to mention that under Publish, Person Reports there is a new report, "Index". It is simply a list of people in the data file showing their Name, DOB, Date of Marriage and Date of Death. BJ On 10/24/2011 9:53 PM, BJ wrote: > The sync is the main enhancement in FTM 2012. There are a couple of > other relatively minor enhancements. > > 1. Anyone who has children from multiple marriages, the user has the > option to show just the children of each marriage or to show a "blended" > view listing all children of all marriages. It is a small icon on the > People, Family work area. It looks something like # just above the > children. It toggles off and on. > 2. The Descendant chart now allows the user to show all descendants > of an individual or to show the descendants down to a specified > individual. On the Publish, Descendant Chart it is an option in the > right pane labeled "Descendants" with a drop down arrow. Clicking the > arrow displays a list of eligible descendants of the focus individual. > 3. The Outline Descendant Report has also been changed but I don't > recall how. > > If you click Help, Help for Family Tree Maker, there is an article of > "Whats New in FTM". > > Hope that answers your question. > > BJ > > On 10/24/2011 9:17 PM, Ali wrote: >> I received v2012 today. It loaded with no problem. However, I was disappointed to see that everything looked the same. The only difference I have seen so far is the Sync feature which I'm not all that excited about. Is there something else that I may have missed? >> Ali >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> Online Support for Family Tree Maker >> Version 16 and earlier >> http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ >> >> Version 2008 - 2011 >> http://ftm.custhelp.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4572 - Release Date: 10/24/11 >> >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4572 - Release Date: 10/24/11 > >

The sync is the main enhancement in FTM 2012. There are a couple of other relatively minor enhancements. 1. Anyone who has children from multiple marriages, the user has the option to show just the children of each marriage or to show a "blended" view listing all children of all marriages. It is a small icon on the People, Family work area. It looks something like # just above the children. It toggles off and on. 2. The Descendant chart now allows the user to show all descendants of an individual or to show the descendants down to a specified individual. On the Publish, Descendant Chart it is an option in the right pane labeled "Descendants" with a drop down arrow. Clicking the arrow displays a list of eligible descendants of the focus individual. 3. The Outline Descendant Report has also been changed but I don't recall how. If you click Help, Help for Family Tree Maker, there is an article of "Whats New in FTM". Hope that answers your question. BJ On 10/24/2011 9:17 PM, Ali wrote: > I received v2012 today. It loaded with no problem. However, I was disappointed to see that everything looked the same. The only difference I have seen so far is the Sync feature which I'm not all that excited about. Is there something else that I may have missed? > Ali > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4572 - Release Date: 10/24/11 > >

manually entered the information with Est birth year. I do not merge information from Ancestry because I don't want misspellings of names. If you have birth year for 6 children (estimated or Actual) adding a name from a census ten years later with estimated date of birth, should not put that child back after the second or third child from the census ten years earlier. Never happened to me in 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010 or 2011. in a message dated 10/24/2011 8:02:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jaydarlene@sbcglobal.net writes: But did you manually enter the child or did you merge the data from the census? That is Ancestry doing the sort, not the FTM program. Jay Thompson just an old genealogy nut too tough to crack. ________________________________ From: "Chasgustaf@aol.com" <Chasgustaf@aol.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, October 24, 2011 7:44:40 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] New entries not in date order In a message dated 10/24/2011 7:08:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sherren@csolve.net writes: The children are left in the order you enter them. NOT true in 2012. If you have SIX children listed and a new child is on a subsequent census, FTM 2012 puts that new child in the middle of the pack, NOT at the BOTTOM. ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John Yes, large is a very elastic word and is not just related to individuals. I assume that by records you mean facts and not the report that you get when you compact, which I assume counts name and the like as well, although there must for instance have been a change in the counting between FTM2009 and FTM2010 as I "lost: about 600,000 records. I have at this moment 107, 617 individuals which is less than yours, but I have just shy of 590,000 facts. As an example of how those facts are made up there are some 18,000 residence facts deriving from the 1930 US census. Looking forward I would estimate that one in four of my individuals was alive and living in the US at the time of the 1940 census I have struggled for years with FTM. Unlike many who regard FTM16 as great, it used to crash a lot for me. with my database then split into two of 25 and 35 thousand respectively. I moved to Macs prior to the release of the Mac version. We were told it was written from the bottom up to exploit the Mac. Written for Intel based Macs that are natively 64 bit it is a 32 bit program and not even a Mac program, but a .Net application like the Windows version and only runs because it has a cross platform runtime library embodied. Four minutes for the filter dialogue box to come up, couldn't compact, couldn't export (files or gedcoms), couldn't even "set spouse order", runs out of memory in as little as ten minutes. I am currently managing fairly well with FTM2010 running under Windows on my Macs. I am waiting to see what happens with the next Mac version, but the likelihood is that however much I like FTM apart from performance I shall move to something else and never come back. At least other program producers attempt to fix problems and don't abandon a version after 12 months. Tony -----Original Message----- From: John Okerson Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 8:09 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2012 seems considerably enhanced to me! I chose to look at FTM first because of its ability to directly import TMG files and because of the TreeSync feature. >From what I've seen so far FTM has some great features but... their >implementation of those features sometimes leave a lot to be desired. The speed issue, inability to handle large files with lots of media, and the seemingly instability ( lots of crashes and having to re-install)are worrying. The question of FTM 2012 and 'large files' is one which was near and dear to my heart. Release version 388 accommodates my file handily. I have a bit over 130,9XX unique names, plus about 5,XXX akas. My file doesn't have much media, I will admit - 677 to be precise, and none are very large - even so in comparison to FTM 16 which is my current, primary genie program, the file size reduction afforded by moving media out of the database file is very handy! I have about 52,XXX families, 191,XXX records and about 10,XXX sources. LARGE is a word used by many, with differing interpretations. I have not tried with release 388 yet, but have used databases of 250K, 450K and 845K people with FTM 16. I found that if one monitors memory usage by FTM 2012, you'll have a good clue as to how to improve its performance. If you use Task Manager, you can see just how much RAM the program is using. Opening the program without loading a file generates a moderately low memory usage, and has delivered the best performance for me. On the other hand, closing a data file (and keeping FTM 2012 open) often results in a significantly higher memory usage at that point and possible failure to complete with a large file. Once memory usage goes above some threshold, the probability of 'failure' skyrockets IMHO. If 2012 hits above 1.2M of RAM used (up to about 1.5M) then failure might be shortly at hand. An interesting sidelight is that the old limitation of only opening 2 different datasets (from FTM 16 anyway) is not there in 2012. At one point, I had 5 different datasets loaded at one time - an Intel Sandy Bridge i7 2600 processor and 16 GB of physical RAM are in my primary computer running Windows 7 Professional SP1. I have yet to try that with build 388, but expect its performance will be similar. John Okerson Memphis, TN ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, I can't find a cause- it always works for me no matter what I change. One odd thing I noticed though - the marriage media shows on the larger left part of the screen, but when I go to the right side of the screen and click media, the marriage media is not shown. Odd Courtney sitnah@cox.net -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mary Ellis" <mwellis@triad.rr.com> > Problem with the bar that has Marriage to ________ on the right hand panel > Sometimes I can click on that bar and get to the Notes - Media page and > other times I can't. When this bar doesn't work then clicking on the > little icon on the marriage line doesn't work either ( the one that says > Marriage Facts, Notes and Media when you hover over it.) > When neither of these work then the only way to add a note is to go to > the person tab, click on the marriage shared fact and use the note > selection in the right hand panel. > > I checked and can't find a thing different about these entries accept > the people names of course. > > Any ideas, or anyone else having this problem? >

In a message dated 10/24/2011 7:08:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sherren@csolve.net writes: The children are left in the order you enter them. NOT true in 2012. If you have SIX children listed and a new child is on a subsequent census, FTM 2012 puts that new child in the middle of the pack, NOT at the BOTTOM.

Problem with the bar that has Marriage to ________ on the right hand panel Sometimes I can click on that bar and get to the Notes - Media page and other times I can't. When this bar doesn't work then clicking on the little icon on the marriage line doesn't work either ( the one that says Marriage Facts, Notes and Media when you hover over it.) When neither of these work then the only way to add a note is to go to the person tab, click on the marriage shared fact and use the note selection in the right hand panel. I checked and can't find a thing different about these entries accept the people names of course. Any ideas, or anyone else having this problem? -- Mary W. Ellis Registrar Battle of Alamance DAR http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncacgs/ http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mwellis/ http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncalaman/ (Brick Church site)

Direct descendants - the direct line from the ancestor to the person designated as Home Person. In most data bases the Home Person is set to the file owner. In FTM 16 and earlier there was no Home Person. You are correct, that is the way I have it set and I see the direct descendant pointer (a gold or orange arrow). However, I also want that person at the top of the list of children. That way when I am on another page with only the Mini-nav pedigree tree for navigation, the child at the top of the list is the one shown. I find it easier to use the Mini-nav tree when attempting to navigate the direct descendants. BJ On 10/24/2011 6:54 PM, David C Abernathy wrote: > Bj, > What is your definition of Direct descendants? > Who is this direct descendent? > > I think that almost everyone in your database is a direct descent to someone > or another. > > If it is you, then set you as the Home person, and you will see that flag to > you. >

FTM, since the beginning, has not automatically put children in birth order on the family page. The children are left in the order you enter them, unless YOU change the order either by using the reorder symbol, or by manually moving them up or down on the list. This, to me, is actually a good feature. I might know the names and birth *order* of several children in a family, BUT do not know their birth dates. I can enter them in the order I want them on FTM, but at Ancestry (where automatic sorting is in effect) they are immediately rearranged alphabetically, only because there is no birth date. I would have to put in fictitious dates to get them in the proper order, definitely not my preference. If you do want them to sort chronologically on FTM, it's an easy move to click on the reorder symbol. Once in a while, I do an Error report (Publish/Person Reports/Data Errors Report) and select only "Children Out of Order" from Errors to Include, to pick up any families I may have missed. Lorraine in Kingston, ON On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 00:51:59 -0400 (EDT) aghatchett3rd@aim.com wrote "Not to my knowledge- unfortunately. Looks like an automatic sort by DOB would be a no-brainer... but then we *are* talking about FTM." in answer to message from: Chasgustaf <Chasgustaf@aol.com> "Finally got 2012 to load and was able to get information loaded by doing a Gedcom. When I do a new census reference by hand, when adding a new child, the entry is NOT in date order. have to click on the reorder symbol. Is there a way to change that?"

Daryl, You need to right click the additional file and select "Open in new window". I just had 5 different files open at the same time. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Daryl Rickards Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:19 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Open tree in New Window - FTM2012 Hi BJ, Yes that's exactly how I am opening the 2nd file - I'm running FTM 2012 build 388 under Windows 7 Home Premium on a 64-bit machine 8gb Very odd Daryl from Oz -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2011 9:42 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Open tree in New Window - FTM2012 I'm sorry but I'm not experiencing this problem. I have a file open. On the Plan work area, I select a second file and select in a New Window. I see the program initialization dialog window. Eventually, a new FTM 2012 window opens showing the desired file. Is this how you are attempting to open the second file? If you are attempting to open by double clicking on the file name, you may have a problem. I had to reinstall FTM 2011 after I had installed FTM 2012. This caused the Windows file to be associated with FTM 2011. So when I attempt to open a FTM 2012 file, FTM 2011 is opened but doesn't recognize the file. So it offers to create a new tree. I'm running FTM 2012 build 388 under Windows 7 Pro on a 32-bit machine. BJ On 10/24/2011 2:18 PM, Daryl Rickards wrote: > Hi great wizards, > > > > I have noticed that if I have a tree open in FTM2012, then try to open > another tree in a new window - The FTM application initializing > banner sits there and if I minimise all windows back to my desktop I > see a small window which says tree does not exist > > Rubbish I say to this little window, close it and FTM opens with the > Create New Tree window. I then click on the tree I tried to open in a > new window previously and it does. I now have both my trees open and > can move between the both of them. > > This did not happen in FTM2011 where I could open trees in new windows > without any problems > > Why is this so ????? > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bj, What is your definition of Direct descendants? Who is this direct descendent? I think that almost everyone in your database is a direct descent to someone or another. If it is you, then set you as the Home person, and you will see that flag to you. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:27 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] New entries not in date order Thank you for your comment. I agree 100%. In FTM 16 and earlier, I liked to have the direct descendants listed at the top of the children list. I continue that process in FTM 2012 although FTM 2008 implemented a special indicator showing the direct descendant path to the "Home Person". After I have entered the children, I sort them by birth date. I then use the move feature to move the direct descendant to the top slot. I find this lets me navigate to through the direct line much more efficiently than leaving everyone in the birth order. Having the option to "automatically" sort children after adding a new child would not work very well except for those who always want the children in birth order. Consider this. I have rearranged the children list. I enter a new child and the entire list is automatically reordered not just for this family but for all children. This completely destroys my desired order. Just my opinion. BJ On 10/24/2011 4:05 PM, Derk & Lorraine Sherren wrote: > FTM, since the beginning, has not automatically put children in birth order > on the family page. The children are left in the order you enter them, > unless YOU change the order either by using the reorder symbol, or by > manually moving them up or down on the list. This, to me, is actually a good > feature. I might know the names and birth *order* of several children in a > family, BUT do not know their birth dates. I can enter them in the order I > want them on FTM, but at Ancestry (where automatic sorting is in effect) > they are immediately rearranged alphabetically, only because there is no > birth date. I would have to put in fictitious dates to get them in the > proper order, definitely not my preference. If you do want them to sort > chronologically on FTM, it's an easy move to click on the reorder symbol. > Once in a while, I do an Error report (Publish/Person Reports/Data Errors > Report) and select only "Children Out of Order" from Errors to Include, to > pick up any families I may have missed. > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, What version of FTM are you having this issue with? When there is NO marriage, then the bar is a "Add spouse" link. When there is a marriage, just clicking the "Married to bar" should open the current marriage "Fact, Notes and Media" pane. The icon and marriage bar will not open the "Marriage Facts, Notes and Media" as there is no marriage to add this information about. That is why there is the "Add spouse" button when there is no marriage. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Ellis Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 4:30 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] Marriage bar in Right hand Edit fields Problem with the bar that has Marriage to ________ on the right hand panel Sometimes I can click on that bar and get to the Notes - Media page and other times I can't. When this bar doesn't work then clicking on the little icon on the marriage line doesn't work either ( the one that says Marriage Facts, Notes and Media when you hover over it.) When neither of these work then the only way to add a note is to go to the person tab, click on the marriage shared fact and use the note selection in the right hand panel. I checked and can't find a thing different about these entries accept the people names of course. Any ideas, or anyone else having this problem? -- Mary W. Ellis Registrar Battle of Alamance DAR http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncacgs/ http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mwellis/ http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncalaman/ (Brick Church site) ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are you using File, Open in New Window or On the top right side - right click on a file name, and choose Open Tree in New Window? which ever one you are using, try the other one to see if it makes a difference Courtney sitnah@cox.net -------------------------------------------------- From: "Daryl Rickards" <darylrickard01@optusnet.com.au> > Hi BJ, > Yes that's exactly how I am opening the 2nd file - > I'm running FTM 2012 build 388 under Windows 7 Home Premium on a 64-bit > machine 8gb > Very odd > Daryl from Oz