I have many folks like John Okerson, Sr., John Okerson, Jr., John Okerson, 2nd, John Okerson, II within my tree from FTM 16. I imported them using the .ftw that FTM 16 uses. When imported into FTM 2012 build 388, I see them listed a Okerson, Sr. John in the Index using People view, Family. A name like John Okerson, 2nd appears as Okerson, 2nd John in the People view, Family Index and 2nd John Okerson in the rightmost column in the People view, Person. I have a multitude of Military Titles within the file too, and they appear in a similar way. Is this the way it is supposed to be????? I have the Index sort done using Family, Given Name if that matters.

John, No, it should appear as Okerson, John 2nd. When you have one of these in view, go to the Right Hand Panel I the Family View and click in the name field. A little pencil icon will appear. Click on that and you can then put 2nd in the Suffix field where it belongs. Another option would be to use slashes ( / ) as used in FTM 16 but if you do that then later need to make a change to the name, it might revert. In my database I have several people listed by the naming pattern here in Costa Rica in which two surnames are used (paternal & maternal). Unless I use the slashes or the click on the pencil, the first surname is treated as a Given name and the last as the surname which is incorrect. If I use the slashes and later click in that name field, it will revert, so I found that using the pencil icon is the best way. Did these names display correctly in the Index in FTM 16? Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: John Okerson Sent: Monday, 31 October, 2011 1:34 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] 2012 handling of names and Titles I have many folks like John Okerson, Sr., John Okerson, Jr., John Okerson, 2nd, John Okerson, II within my tree from FTM 16. I imported them using the .ftw that FTM 16 uses. When imported into FTM 2012 build 388, I see them listed a Okerson, Sr. John in the Index using People view, Family. A name like John Okerson, 2nd appears as Okerson, 2nd John in the People view, Family Index and 2nd John Okerson in the rightmost column in the People view, Person. I have a multitude of Military Titles within the file too, and they appear in a similar way. Is this the way it is supposed to be????? I have the Index sort done using Family, Given Name if that matters.

> I recently "Synced" two separate files into Ancestry.com. The operation > did not over-right the existing files in ancestry. If I chose........is it ok to delete the family files that are not labeled "synced with Family Tree Maker?" (within ancestry.com) TreeSync™ does not appear to overwrite a file even if you give it the identical name. Thus, be careful as you select the file to delete on Ancestry.com. I uploaded a file of the identical name, copied some descriptive text I used, deleted the older file, then pasted the copied text to my new file. Worked fine! Yes, I did the deletion within Ancestry.com itself. John Okerson from Memphis, TN

I recently "Synced" two separate files into Ancestry.com. The operation did not over-right the existing files in ancestry. If I chose........is it ok to delete the family files that are not labeled "synced with Family Tree Maker?" (within ancestry.com) Thank you, Rick

Yes. The sync does not over write existing AMT trees and Ancestry.com is quite happy to have two AMT trees with the same name. You simply need to go online, determine which AMT is not synced and delete it. BJ On 10/30/2011 5:59 PM, Rick Mayernik wrote: > I recently "Synced" two separate files into Ancestry.com. The operation did > not over-right the existing files in ancestry. If I chose........is it ok > to delete the family files that are not labeled "synced with Family Tree > Maker?" (within ancestry.com) >

BJ, thank you for pointing out the enhancements. Much appreciated. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: BJ To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] So far so good The sync is the main enhancement in FTM 2012. There are a couple of other relatively minor enhancements. 1. Anyone who has children from multiple marriages, the user has the option to show just the children of each marriage or to show a "blended" view listing all children of all marriages. It is a small icon on the People, Family work area. It looks something like # just above the children. It toggles off and on. 2. The Descendant chart now allows the user to show all descendants of an individual or to show the descendants down to a specified individual. On the Publish, Descendant Chart it is an option in the right pane labeled "Descendants" with a drop down arrow. Clicking the arrow displays a list of eligible descendants of the focus individual. 3. The Outline Descendant Report has also been changed but I don't recall how. If you click Help, Help for Family Tree Maker, there is an article of "Whats New in FTM". Hope that answers your question. BJ On 10/24/2011 9:17 PM, Ali wrote: > I received v2012 today. It loaded with no problem. However, I was disappointed to see that everything looked the same. The only difference I have seen so far is the Sync feature which I'm not all that excited about. Is there something else that I may have missed? > Ali > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4572 - Release Date: 10/24/11 > > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks BJ, the tinyurl works great. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: BJ To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Next FTM webinar I was able to get the second one to work but it takes a little bit of work. I've used it to create a tinyURL which will take you to the web site describing the event. You can register at the bottom of the page. *http://tinyurl.com/67slq6y BJ * On 10/27/2011 11:05 PM, John Donaldson wrote: > The details of the next FTM webinars (The Duff and Michelle Show) along with > registration, is on this link > > https://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=registrati > on.jsp > <https://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=registrat > ion.jsp&eventid=269744&sessionid=1&key=EFABB59AFCFC06CEF2E4A338AECA67F2&sour > cepage=register> > &eventid=269744&sessionid=1&key=EFABB59AFCFC06CEF2E4A338AECA67F2&sourcepage= > register > > The site notes > > Session Start Time: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:00 PM Eastern (New York) > > Join us for a free webinar that will teach you about the new features in > Family Tree Maker 2012. You'll learn about TreeSync-the ability to link and > synchronize your desktop tree with an online tree at Ancestry, how to use > the new blended families display option, create new charts and reports, and > more. Even get your questions answered by the developers who created it. > This webinar will also be useful for users of Family Tree Maker for Mac - > coming soon with TreeSync! > > According to the world clock http://www.timeanddate.com/ > > Location Local time > Time zone UTC offset > > New York (U.S.A. - New York) Wednesday, 9 November 2011 > at 8:00:00 PM EST UTC-5 hours > > Melbourne (Australia - Victoria) Thursday, 10 November 2011 > at 12:00:00 Noon EDT UTC+11 hours > > If you live in another time zone you will have to work out your local time. > > Often people post that they won't be home etc. Don't worry, all the webinars > are archived at http://learn.ancestry.com/LearnMore/Webinars.aspx > > Other people complain that it is the wrong time for them, like 2 am in the > morning or something. The problems of living on a planet with time zones, it > can only go out live once. > > But all is not lost, it will be archived. > http://learn.ancestry.com/LearnMore/Webinars.aspx > > No doubt it will be on the new features in FTM 2012 so see TreeSyncT from > the people who wrote it > > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lorraine, That is one LONG URL in John's message. You will have to copy and paste the entire thing into your browser bar. Here is the Blog Entry of Russ Worthington's FTM Blog... Upcoming Events Family Tree Maker 2012: New Features Date of Presentation: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 Register Now Join us on Wednesday, November 9th at 8:00 pm (Eastern Standard Time) for a free webinar that will teach you about the new features in Family Tree Maker 2012. You'll learn about TreeSync—the ability to link and synchronize your desktop tree with an online tree at Ancestry, how to use the new blended families display option, create new charts and reports, and more. Even get your questions answered by the developers who created it. This webinar will also be useful for users of Family Tree Maker for Mac – coming soon with TreeSync! -----Original Message----- From: Derk & Lorraine Sherren <sherren@csolve.net> To: ftm-tech <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Oct 29, 2011 6:34 pm Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Next FTM webinar John, I'm interested in signing up for this webinar (my first) but the links did not work. I tried copy/paste but only got the message: "The session you have requested could not be found in our database. Please check the URL and try again." (both URLs). I tried going to FTM web site - they sent me to their blog "for information on future webinars". All I found there were blogs on past webinars. Can you help? Lorraine in Kingston On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 John Donaldson wrote: The details of the next FTM webinars (The Duff and Michelle Show) along with registration, is on this link https://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=registrati on.jsp <https://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=registrat ion.jsp&eventid=269744&sessionid=1&key=EFABB59AFCFC06CEF2E4A338AECA67F2&sour cepage=register> &eventid=269744&sessionid=1&key=EFABB59AFCFC06CEF2E4A338AECA67F2&sourcepage= register The site notes Session Start Time: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:00 PM Eastern (New York) <snip> ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John, I'm interested in signing up for this webinar (my first) but the links did not work. I tried copy/paste but only got the message: "The session you have requested could not be found in our database. Please check the URL and try again." (both URLs). I tried going to FTM web site - they sent me to their blog "for information on future webinars". All I found there were blogs on past webinars. Can you help? Lorraine in Kingston On Fri, 28 Oct 2011 John Donaldson wrote: The details of the next FTM webinars (The Duff and Michelle Show) along with registration, is on this link https://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=registrati on.jsp <https://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=registrat ion.jsp&eventid=269744&sessionid=1&key=EFABB59AFCFC06CEF2E4A338AECA67F2&sour cepage=register> &eventid=269744&sessionid=1&key=EFABB59AFCFC06CEF2E4A338AECA67F2&sourcepage= register The site notes Session Start Time: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:00 PM Eastern (New York) <snip>

I was able to get the second one to work but it takes a little bit of work. I've used it to create a tinyURL which will take you to the web site describing the event. You can register at the bottom of the page. *http://tinyurl.com/67slq6y BJ * On 10/27/2011 11:05 PM, John Donaldson wrote: > The details of the next FTM webinars (The Duff and Michelle Show) along with > registration, is on this link > > https://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=registrati > on.jsp > <https://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=registrat > ion.jsp&eventid=269744&sessionid=1&key=EFABB59AFCFC06CEF2E4A338AECA67F2&sour > cepage=register> > &eventid=269744&sessionid=1&key=EFABB59AFCFC06CEF2E4A338AECA67F2&sourcepage= > register > > The site notes > > Session Start Time: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:00 PM Eastern (New York) > > Join us for a free webinar that will teach you about the new features in > Family Tree Maker 2012. You'll learn about TreeSync-the ability to link and > synchronize your desktop tree with an online tree at Ancestry, how to use > the new blended families display option, create new charts and reports, and > more. Even get your questions answered by the developers who created it. > This webinar will also be useful for users of Family Tree Maker for Mac - > coming soon with TreeSync! > > According to the world clock http://www.timeanddate.com/ > > Location Local time > Time zone UTC offset > > New York (U.S.A. - New York) Wednesday, 9 November 2011 > at 8:00:00 PM EST UTC-5 hours > > Melbourne (Australia - Victoria) Thursday, 10 November 2011 > at 12:00:00 Noon EDT UTC+11 hours > > If you live in another time zone you will have to work out your local time. > > Often people post that they won't be home etc. Don't worry, all the webinars > are archived at http://learn.ancestry.com/LearnMore/Webinars.aspx > > Other people complain that it is the wrong time for them, like 2 am in the > morning or something. The problems of living on a planet with time zones, it > can only go out live once. > > But all is not lost, it will be archived. > http://learn.ancestry.com/LearnMore/Webinars.aspx > > No doubt it will be on the new features in FTM 2012 so see TreeSyncT from > the people who wrote it > >

I wonder if you mean GB when you refer to MB? W7 64 bit and FTM 2012 will work with 2 GB of RAM Your message is a bit ambiguous in that I am not sure if you want to download a file from Ancestry.com c/w media or from her FTM 2010? I would have thought that it would be no problem to download her tree from Ancestry.com on her computer and also download the media In terms of FTM 2010 a File >Backup with the included media items check box ticked will also capture all the information John D -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Okerson Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2011 10:31 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] An Ancestry.com/FTM 2012/FTM16 question and suggestionsrequested. please I have an 11th cousin - OK quit laughing folks - who has a presence on Ancestry.com with a tree of over 8,000 folks and a multitude of media items. While she is a Mac user at heart, but owns a Windows PC notebook and FTM 2010. Her notebook is 2 years old and moderately low powered, but with 3 MB of RAM and Windows 7 Professional 64 bit - and here *I* thought one HAD to have 4 MB of RAM to get 64 bit mode to work. What we want to do is download the entire collection of names/dates/places/relationships/notes/sources/etc and also all of the media, still associated with the correct individual. Suggestions on how to do what she needs would be welcomed. FTM 16 fits in because with a low powered notebook, using FTM 2010 or FTM 2012 might not be an acceptable option for this "visual" person. My thought would be to port the entire tree over to FTM 16 to get her the speed she desires. Thanks for any and all help. John Okerson Memphis, TN **********************************

BJ, I am positive that 2011 will download an AMT file into FTM including images, and I think 2010 would also. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 12:22 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] An Ancestry.com/FTM 2012/FTM16 question andsuggestionsrequested. please Very interesting problem and as you surmise not going to be easily resolved. The problem is how does one get the data AND images from the AMT into a file she can use. Downloading the AMT into FTM 2010 will not work because it will not download the images. The only program which will download the AMT and images is FTM 2012. Once you've done that what options does she have? Forget about trying to convert the tree into FTM 16, the only way of doing that is to export the data file to GEDCOM and that will automatically lose the images. So she would have to manually add all of the images into the appropriate scrapbook in FTM 16. You can use FTM 2012 to convert the file to FTM 2010. Unfortunately I don't have FTM 2010 installed so I haven't tested how successful that conversion is. I suspect that FTM 2010 will run slower and have more problems on her machine than FTM 2012. I have noticed some improvement in speed and performance in FTM 2012 so I think it would be better to have her migrate to FTM 2012 but you may want to run some tests using her machine. *Is it legal *for you to access her AMT and download it. Sure why not? Only the owner can download a tree. She has given you her ID and password. If you use them and download the tree, you can then give the file to her. I see no problems with that. I have two Ancestry.com IDs and Passwords and am able to switch between them with no problems. You simply Log out of your ID and Login with hers. * Will it work?* Yes, using FTM 2012 you have two choices. You can either download the AMT as a synced file or as an unlinked file. I suggest you do it as a UNLINKED file. Otherwise the tree will be synced to your machine and will have to be unlinked at a later time. The main question is *How well will it work?* That depends upon how she has managed the AMT and its images. Factors which will make the download easier are 1. Make sure that all of the AMT media items have assigned "Picture Names". This is the name displayed below the image thumbnail in the AMT Media Gallery. The Picture Name is downloaded as the Thumbnail's Caption and it is used as the Media file name. If there are no Picture Names assigned, a generic file name is assigned and may not be names she wants to use. 2. Make sure that all of the AMT media items are linked to an individuals; otherwise, you or she will have to go into FTM 2012 and link the media items to the appropriate person. In the AMT Media Gallery, click on the media image, this will open the detail view for the media item. On the right side of the view, you can see to whom the picture is linked. Hope this helps somewhat. BJ On 10/29/2011 7:25 AM, John Okerson wrote: > I left it vague intentionally. What I suspect may have to happen is to > go to Ancestry.com with her username and password via FTM 2012. Then > download her entire tree and media files. Next, convert it to FTM 2010 > format and load same on her notebook PC. My questions include 1) would > it be legal for me to do the above, 2) do we believe it would work, 3) > would I be able to export the file to FTM 16. Other suggestions welcomed. ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you are using FTM 2011 for example, maybe once a month or if you have done some significant edits. You have to upload as a new tree. A plea. Please delete your old tree. The AMT is full of obsolete trees where folk have uploaded a new one, but have left the old one there which simply results in additional and unnecessary leaf hints'' If you are using FTM 2012 and plan to use TreeSync, then if you choose automatic sync the tree will sync on loading and closing down or of course you can sync at any time. If you choose manual it is up to you to press the sync now button John D -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Pollock Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2011 1:49 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] Online Tree Updates This is a strange question but I have no idea and thought you all would be my best resource for correct information. It involves uploading trees. How often should we upload a new tree OR is there a way to simply upload the additions, edits, etc.? I understand that I can make changes to my tree in FTM but I also upload it to Ancestry. I don't have the extra time to make changes in two places, one online and one on my desktop. I don't care to have several trees online so what I've been doing is deleting my old tree and then uploading a new tree. I wondered if uploading a new tree using the same name would overwrite an existing tree. I guess you can deduce I'm still fairly new at this online tree stuff, but so many of my relatives have found the info so helpful, I hate not to keep the most up to date info available to them.

Thanks and a tip of the hat. I forwarded your reply on to my cousin. Since she has a Mac and wants to keep everything on one computer, and seems to be in awe of her Mac, I believe she will choose to await the Mac release, keeping fingers crossed that it works well. John

Thank you for the correction. My first test was flawed in that the AMT did not contain any images. I just tried it a second time with FTM 2011 and it did indeed download the image. My mistake. BJ On 10/29/2011 10:56 AM, John Boyd wrote: > BJ, > > I am positive that 2011 will download an AMT file into FTM including images, > and I think 2010 would also. > > John& Kathleen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of BJ > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 12:22 PM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] An Ancestry.com/FTM 2012/FTM16 question > andsuggestionsrequested. please > > Very interesting problem and as you surmise not going to be easily resolved. > The problem is how does one get the data AND images from the AMT into a file > she can use. > > Downloading the AMT into FTM 2010 will not work because it will not download > the images. The only program which will download the AMT and images is FTM > 2012. Once you've done that what options does she have? > > Forget about trying to convert the tree into FTM 16, the only way of doing > that is to export the data file to GEDCOM and that will automatically lose > the images. So she would have to manually add all of the images into the > appropriate scrapbook in FTM 16. > > You can use FTM 2012 to convert the file to FTM 2010. Unfortunately I don't > have FTM 2010 installed so I haven't tested how successful that conversion > is. I suspect that FTM 2010 will run slower and have more problems on her > machine than FTM 2012. I have noticed some improvement in speed and > performance in FTM 2012 so I think it would be better to have her migrate to > FTM 2012 but you may want to run some tests using her machine. > > *Is it legal *for you to access her AMT and download it. Sure why not? > Only the owner can download a tree. She has given you her ID and password. > If you use them and download the tree, you can then give the file to her. I > see no problems with that. I have two Ancestry.com IDs and Passwords and am > able to switch between them with no problems. You simply Log out of your ID > and Login with hers. > * > Will it work?* Yes, using FTM 2012 you have two choices. You can either > download the AMT as a synced file or as an unlinked file. I suggest you do > it as a UNLINKED file. Otherwise the tree will be synced to your machine > and will have to be unlinked at a later time. The main question is *How > well will it work?* That depends upon how she has managed the AMT and its > images. > > Factors which will make the download easier are > 1. Make sure that all of the AMT media items have assigned "Picture > Names". This is the name displayed below the image thumbnail in the AMT > Media Gallery. The Picture Name is downloaded as the Thumbnail's Caption > and it is used as the Media file name. If there are no Picture Names > assigned, a generic file name is assigned and may not be names she wants to > use. > 2. Make sure that all of the AMT media items are linked to an > individuals; otherwise, you or she will have to go into FTM 2012 and link > the media items to the appropriate person. In the AMT Media Gallery, click > on the media image, this will open the detail view for the media item. On > the right side of the view, you can see to whom the picture is linked. > > Hope this helps somewhat. > > BJ > > > On 10/29/2011 7:25 AM, John Okerson wrote: >> I left it vague intentionally. What I suspect may have to happen is to >> go to Ancestry.com with her username and password via FTM 2012. Then >> download her entire tree and media files. Next, convert it to FTM 2010 >> format and load same on her notebook PC. My questions include 1) would >> it be legal for me to do the above, 2) do we believe it would work, 3) >> would I be able to export the file to FTM 16. Other suggestions welcomed. > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4582 - Release Date: 10/29/11 > >

I'm not sure I understand your question. When you say "I rename a file copy...", are you talking about the backup or are you saying you make a copy of your data file which you then rename to "Jones_30Oct11"? The other question is "This time it failed to move Scrapbook images." In FTM 16, Scrapbook images are embedded in the file. There is no "movement". The scrapbooks are automatically "copied" when you make a copy of the file. I would check the original file to ensure the scrapbook images are present there. BJ On 10/28/2011 9:33 PM, bik wrote: > FTM v16 > Every few months after backup, I rename a file copy with current date > i.e. "Jones_30Oct11". > This time it failed to move Scrapbook images. What did I overlook? > Tnx!

Very interesting problem and as you surmise not going to be easily resolved. The problem is how does one get the data AND images from the AMT into a file she can use. Downloading the AMT into FTM 2010 will not work because it will not download the images. The only program which will download the AMT and images is FTM 2012. Once you've done that what options does she have? Forget about trying to convert the tree into FTM 16, the only way of doing that is to export the data file to GEDCOM and that will automatically lose the images. So she would have to manually add all of the images into the appropriate scrapbook in FTM 16. You can use FTM 2012 to convert the file to FTM 2010. Unfortunately I don't have FTM 2010 installed so I haven't tested how successful that conversion is. I suspect that FTM 2010 will run slower and have more problems on her machine than FTM 2012. I have noticed some improvement in speed and performance in FTM 2012 so I think it would be better to have her migrate to FTM 2012 but you may want to run some tests using her machine. *Is it legal *for you to access her AMT and download it. Sure why not? Only the owner can download a tree. She has given you her ID and password. If you use them and download the tree, you can then give the file to her. I see no problems with that. I have two Ancestry.com IDs and Passwords and am able to switch between them with no problems. You simply Log out of your ID and Login with hers. * Will it work?* Yes, using FTM 2012 you have two choices. You can either download the AMT as a synced file or as an unlinked file. I suggest you do it as a UNLINKED file. Otherwise the tree will be synced to your machine and will have to be unlinked at a later time. The main question is *How well will it work?* That depends upon how she has managed the AMT and its images. Factors which will make the download easier are 1. Make sure that all of the AMT media items have assigned "Picture Names". This is the name displayed below the image thumbnail in the AMT Media Gallery. The Picture Name is downloaded as the Thumbnail's Caption and it is used as the Media file name. If there are no Picture Names assigned, a generic file name is assigned and may not be names she wants to use. 2. Make sure that all of the AMT media items are linked to an individuals; otherwise, you or she will have to go into FTM 2012 and link the media items to the appropriate person. In the AMT Media Gallery, click on the media image, this will open the detail view for the media item. On the right side of the view, you can see to whom the picture is linked. Hope this helps somewhat. BJ On 10/29/2011 7:25 AM, John Okerson wrote: > I left it vague intentionally. What I suspect may have to happen is to > go to Ancestry.com with her username and password via FTM 2012. Then > download her entire tree and media files. Next, convert it to FTM 2010 > format and load same on her notebook PC. My questions include 1) would > it be legal for me to do the above, 2) do we believe it would work, 3) > would I be able to export the file to FTM 16. Other suggestions welcomed.

> I wonder if you mean GB when you refer to MB? Sorry I made that mistake. > W7 64 bit and FTM 2012 will work with 2 GB of RAM Ok. I really had not known that one could use less than 4 GB and still have 64 bit mode, but suppose it must be so. The question for my cousin is whether or not she will perceive the program to be fast enough. Very difficult to know in advance and she lives several hundred miles away, so an afternoon's visit is not too likely either. > Your message is a bit ambiguous in that I am not sure if you want to download a file from Ancestry.com c/w media or from her FTM 2010? I left it vague intentionally. What I suspect may have to happen is to go to Ancestry.com with her username and password via FTM 2012. Then download her entire tree and media files. Next, convert it to FTM 2010 format and load same on her notebook PC. My questions include 1) would it be legal for me to do the above, 2) do we believe it would work, 3) would I be able to export the file to FTM 16. Other suggestions welcomed. > I would have thought that it would be no problem to download her tree from Ancestry.com on her computer and also download the media Downloading the media changed between 2010 and 2011, from what I have read on the web site. I do not have 2010, nor 2011, but do have 16, 2009 and 2012 (build 388). > In terms of FTM 2010 a File >Backup with the included media items check > box ticked will also capture all the information And that would most likely work IF she had done her work from FTM and then sent it to Ancestry.com. Instead, this lady did her work on Ancestry.com and has downloaded a .GED file. She also has all of the media she has uploaded to Ancestry.com on one of her computers (of at least 3). While it would be possible to add the media locally, after importing the .GED file into FTM 2010, it seems considerable effort if the 2012 download/convert plan were to work. Having her buy the FTM 2012 upgrade would sure help her maintain the names/dates/places as well as the media, using TreeSync.

John - don't worry. I always delete the old tree. I have relatives that have five and six trees that are so old, outdated, full of incorrect information, but they refuse to delete them for some odd reason. Thanks for your input; at least I know I'm on the right track and doing it correctly. Sue -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Donaldson Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:52 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Online Tree Updates If you are using FTM 2011 for example, maybe once a month or if you have done some significant edits. You have to upload as a new tree. A plea. Please delete your old tree. The AMT is full of obsolete trees where folk have uploaded a new one, but have left the old one there which simply results in additional and unnecessary leaf hints'' If you are using FTM 2012 and plan to use TreeSync, then if you choose automatic sync the tree will sync on loading and closing down or of course you can sync at any time. If you choose manual it is up to you to press the sync now button John D Sent: Saturday, 29 October 2011 1:49 AM Subject: [FTM-TECH] Online Tree Updates This is a strange question but I have no idea and thought you all would be my best resource for correct information. It involves uploading trees. How often should we upload a new tree OR is there a way to simply upload the additions, edits, etc.? I understand that I can make changes to my tree in FTM but I also upload it to Ancestry. I don't have the extra time to make changes in two places, one online and one on my desktop. I don't care to have several trees online so what I've been doing is deleting my old tree and then uploading a new tree. I wondered if uploading a new tree using the same name would overwrite an existing tree. I guess you can deduce I'm still fairly new at this online tree stuff, but so many of my relatives have found the info so helpful, I hate not to keep the most up to date info available to them. ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

FTM v16 Every few months after backup, I rename a file copy with current date i.e. "Jones_30Oct11". This time it failed to move Scrapbook images. What did I overlook? Tnx! -- HAVEANICEDAY Bernard I. Kouchel kooshb9341@bellsouth.net