-----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Courtney Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 9:40 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Ancestry down for Maintenance? I think there are more connections also. When I go to a "hint" there is usually a sentence on the top right side of the page that says "These records may also be relevant to xxxxx" which has a list of link(s) to info that may connect to that person. Who knows what problems that could cause? Courtney sitnah@cox.net -------------------------------------------------- From: <aghatchett3rd@aim.com> > > Ancestry buys the SSDI complete with index from the US government every > month, so all they will do is replace the Old SSDI with the new one the > government issues just like they replace them every month. No extra work > for Ancestry at all. What may be a problem is all those links to the SSDI > that people have added to their trees because if the link goes to one of > the people that will be deleted from the government issued SSDI then there > won't be anything to link to. > > > > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In previous posts to this list I have advocated the use of Dropbox to make it possible for you to access your FTM database on more than one computer. I have been using it for a while for this purpose, and put it to a good test on a recent research trip with my little netbook computer. I've learned some things you need to be aware of to make successful use of Dropbox. First, Dropbox does not use synching technology. Say, for example, you are synching your address book between your smart phone and your computer. The synching process is two-way and examines the content of both locations. Any edits made on the phone are transferred to the computer, and vice versa. If changes to the same record have been made in both places, the synching software will alert you to the conflict and allow you to choose the correct one. Dropbox does not sync, and it does not compare the contents of the files in its folders. It works by copying entire files. To use it you must first open a free account on their website. Then you download and install their software on the computers you plan to use. In my case I have it installed on my desktop PC at home (Computer A) and the netbook I use for traveling (Computer B). Both software installations are connected to my online account. Then I moved my FTM database file and the media folder to the Dropbox folder on Computer A. A copy of the contents of the Dropbox folder on A is copied to the corresponding folder in the online account. FTM is installed on Computer B. When I boot up B, the contents of the online account are copied to B's Dropbox folder. I can open my FTM database from the Dropbox folder on B. All three locations now have the same data and I'm ready to start working. Let's say I do some work in FTM on Computer A. Dropbox will not upload those changes until the file is closed. So if I leave A open and start working on B, B will not have the changes I made in A. When both files are eventually closed, and both A and B are uploaded to Dropbox online, Dropbox will perceive that both files have changed (probably just by looking at the date/time they were saved), but because it doesn't examine the data in the files, cannot offer you the option of choosing which edits to keep. Instead it will make duplicate copies of A and B, and you'll have 3 files instead of 1. The duplicates are named as "Conflict" files, and it's up to you to figure out what's in each one. To avoid this problem, here are the steps you must take: 1. After working in A, close FTM. In the system tray (the small icons in the lower right corner of your screen, where the clock is), look at your Dropbox icon. Two rotating arrows will tell you that the files on A are being uploaded to Dropbox online. The icon is very small. You can hover your mouse pointer over it to see the progress. When it has finished uploading, you will see "All files up to date" when you hover your mouse, and the rotating arrows will be replaced with a checkmark. 2. Any time after Step 1 has been completed, you can work on B. The new copy of A will automatically be downloaded from Dropbox online to B if B is running, or when you turn it on. Watch the icon to know when the process is complete. Make your edits in B. When you have finished, close FTM so that the changes in B will be uploaded to Dropbox online. 3. The next time you want to work in A, be sure that Step 2 has been completed. 4. Do not have both versions A and B open at the same time. For this reason, I don't recommend using Dropbox as a means of allowing another researcher to collaborate with you on the same file. 5. Check your Dropbox folders on A and B from time to time to be sure that you haven't inadvertently created some "conflict" files. This sounds more complicated than it is. It's just a matter of being patient and allowing each process to finish before you move on. FTM 2012 users: One additional point. If you have an Ancestry Member Tree (AMT) that you are synching with FTM 2012, you must assure that all uploads from Computer A have been completed, including media files, before you close FTM on that computer. You cannot link both A and B to the AMT. For edits made in B to be added to the AMT, you must first assure that A and B are in sync via Dropbox as outlined above. Then you can sync A to the AMT. For this reason, it is advisable to set your sync options to manual. Again, patience is the key word. Judy in Ocala

Darn! Thanks for the response BJ. I appreciate it. -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:46 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] using the Place Name Authority within FTM 2012, or earlier versions This has been suggested but there is no way you can modify the Place Name Authority list. I think it may be supplied by a third party. BJ On 11/9/2011 11:09 AM, Connie Shotts wrote: > Regarding this discussion, is there any way to edit the suggested place > name? For example, the suggested place names provide the city name, county > name, state name, but do not include the word or abbreviation for "county" > (or "co."). I prefer to have that designation, but it is a pain to have to > type it in for each entry. I am using FTM 2011 rather than 2012, with > Windows 7, 64 bit. > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Regarding this discussion, is there any way to edit the suggested place name? For example, the suggested place names provide the city name, county name, state name, but do not include the word or abbreviation for "county" (or "co."). I prefer to have that designation, but it is a pain to have to type it in for each entry. I am using FTM 2011 rather than 2012, with Windows 7, 64 bit. -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Boyd Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:27 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] using the Place Name Authority within FTM 2012, or earlier versions Click on the Places tab. In the top left, just above the list of places, you will see a button Resolve All. When you click on that, you get a list (and count) of flagged place names. Each listed place name, has several options. Do Nothing, Agree to replace it with a suggested place name, Move it to Descriptions, Ignore the question and Remove the flag as a suspect place name, or Search alternative place names to replace the one currently used. BTW, this gives you an option to scan lots of the flagged places and quickly replace them with a straight forward acceptable name. For Example, Replace Kentucky with Kentucky, USA. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Okerson Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:55 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] using the Place Name Authority within FTM 2012, or earlier versions > BTW, my file currently has 25,000+ Place Names that are flagged, so I > am working with them a few at a time. Are you saying that you have some way of ascertaining just how many of your Place Names have the FLAG mark - OR - are you saying you have 25,000 place names? I can see where to count that Place names, and am down to 20,0XX. I would like to know just how many of those are flagged though. Is there a secret to knowing? ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Click on the Places tab. In the top left, just above the list of places, you will see a button Resolve All. When you click on that, you get a list (and count) of flagged place names. Each listed place name, has several options. Do Nothing, Agree to replace it with a suggested place name, Move it to Descriptions, Ignore the question and Remove the flag as a suspect place name, or Search alternative place names to replace the one currently used. BTW, this gives you an option to scan lots of the flagged places and quickly replace them with a straight forward acceptable name. For Example, Replace Kentucky with Kentucky, USA. Several good tips here! So, of my 19,975 places, 9,9XX are flagged. I thought I had done a better job than that, but not so - at least not yet!

> Regarding this discussion, is there any way to edit the suggested place name? For example, the suggested place names provide the city name, county name, state name, but do not include the word or abbreviation for "county" (or "co."). I prefer to have that designation, but it is a pain to have to type it in for each entry. I am using FTM 2011 rather than 2012, with Windows 7, 64 bit. I type it in manually, so a solution would be GREAT!

Click on the Places tab. In the top left, just above the list of places, you will see a button Resolve All. When you click on that, you get a list (and count) of flagged place names. Each listed place name, has several options. Do Nothing, Agree to replace it with a suggested place name, Move it to Descriptions, Ignore the question and Remove the flag as a suspect place name, or Search alternative place names to replace the one currently used. BTW, this gives you an option to scan lots of the flagged places and quickly replace them with a straight forward acceptable name. For Example, Replace Kentucky with Kentucky, USA. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Okerson Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:55 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] using the Place Name Authority within FTM 2012, or earlier versions > BTW, my file currently has 25,000+ Place Names that are flagged, so I > am working with them a few at a time. Are you saying that you have some way of ascertaining just how many of your Place Names have the FLAG mark - OR - are you saying you have 25,000 place names? I can see where to count that Place names, and am down to 20,0XX. I would like to know just how many of those are flagged though. Is there a secret to knowing?

> BTW, my file currently has 25,000+ Place Names that are flagged, so I am > working with them a few at a time. Are you saying that you have some way of ascertaining just how many of your Place Names have the FLAG mark - OR - are you saying you have 25,000 place names? I can see where to count that Place names, and am down to 20,0XX. I would like to know just how many of those are flagged though. Is there a secret to knowing?

This has been suggested but there is no way you can modify the Place Name Authority list. I think it may be supplied by a third party. BJ On 11/9/2011 11:09 AM, Connie Shotts wrote: > Regarding this discussion, is there any way to edit the suggested place > name? For example, the suggested place names provide the city name, county > name, state name, but do not include the word or abbreviation for "county" > (or "co."). I prefer to have that designation, but it is a pain to have to > type it in for each entry. I am using FTM 2011 rather than 2012, with > Windows 7, 64 bit. >

If you find a Place Name in the Places List, you can click on one of the people with that specific listing on the right side of the screen. In the Person Tab for that person, you can click on the specific place name, and modify/resolve it to put part of the existing place name into the Description Field, and have that edit apply to all of the listings with that specific form. More trouble, but you get the place name and the description fields edited the way you want. BTW, my file currently has 25,000+ Place Names that are flagged, so I am working with them a few at a time. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Okerson Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:58 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] using the Place Name Authority within FTM 2012, or earlier versions Good morning then both Russ and John, and thanks for your messages. I am working on removing the description portion of place names, and have done so to a considerable extent. Even so, when I start typing in a place name within 2012, the PNA suggests a considerable list (a good thing) but with more characters than I can reconcile visually. Do either of you actually use the suggested PNA place to click on for entry??

Good morning then both Russ and John, and thanks for your messages. I am working on removing the description portion of place names, and have done so to a considerable extent. Even so, when I start typing in a place name within 2012, the PNA suggests a considerable list (a good thing) but with more characters than I can reconcile visually. Do either of you actually use the suggested PNA place to click on for entry??

I use PNA, and lots of others here will offer suggestions as well. Remember, PNA is a recommendation, not a slavish rule. If you are moving from FTM 16, then you probably have Descriptions in the same field as the Place Name. I think all of those will have to be evaluated and resolved manually. The 'automatic' resolution in the Places Tab won't handle those very well. Don't understand your question about married couple. Give us an example. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Okerson Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:07 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] using the Place Name Authority within FTM 2012, or earlier versions I have been a FTM 16 user, and have recently stepped into 2012. I started with about 30,000 "places" appearing within the Places view of my file. Having gone through the listing fully twice now, I have whittled that number down to 20,000 with further work in progress. My perceived problem is that when I use the PNA, I have many things that come into view whether *I* think they should or not. My problem runs something like this, the place names would make sense, and by removing descriptions, I significantly reduced the number of "places", yet I have lists of people who married folks appearing within the places list. WRONG, IMHO! I would like to correspond with someone who uses the PNA itself within FTM so I can acquire usable tips. At this point, after spending weeks correcting the PNA's lists, I have turned its use OFF as others mentioned. Seems like a waste of a considerable resource - the ability to name places uniformly! I have NOT resolved all the places, still working on them one at a time! Someone care to join the fray? John Okerson Memphis, TN

I use PNA, and lots of others here will offer suggestions as well. Remember, PNA is a recommendation, not a slavish rule. If you are moving from FTM 16, then you probably have Descriptions in the same field as the Place Name. I think all of those will have to be evaluated and resolved manually. The 'automatic' resolution in the Places Tab won't handle those very well. Don't understand your question about married couple. Give us an example. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Okerson Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:07 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] using the Place Name Authority within FTM 2012, or earlier versions I have been a FTM 16 user, and have recently stepped into 2012. I started with about 30,000 "places" appearing within the Places view of my file. Having gone through the listing fully twice now, I have whittled that number down to 20,000 with further work in progress. My perceived problem is that when I use the PNA, I have many things that come into view whether *I* think they should or not. My problem runs something like this, the place names would make sense, and by removing descriptions, I significantly reduced the number of "places", yet I have lists of people who married folks appearing within the places list. WRONG, IMHO! I would like to correspond with someone who uses the PNA itself within FTM so I can acquire usable tips. At this point, after spending weeks correcting the PNA's lists, I have turned its use OFF as others mentioned. Seems like a waste of a considerable resource - the ability to name places uniformly! I have NOT resolved all the places, still working on them one at a time! Someone care to join the fray? John Okerson Memphis, TN

I have been a FTM 16 user, and have recently stepped into 2012. I started with about 30,000 "places" appearing within the Places view of my file. Having gone through the listing fully twice now, I have whittled that number down to 20,000 with further work in progress. My perceived problem is that when I use the PNA, I have many things that come into view whether *I* think they should or not. My problem runs something like this, the place names would make sense, and by removing descriptions, I significantly reduced the number of "places", yet I have lists of people who married folks appearing within the places list. WRONG, IMHO! I would like to correspond with someone who uses the PNA itself within FTM so I can acquire usable tips. At this point, after spending weeks correcting the PNA's lists, I have turned its use OFF as others mentioned. Seems like a waste of a considerable resource - the ability to name places uniformly! I have NOT resolved all the places, still working on them one at a time! Someone care to join the fray? John Okerson Memphis, TN

John, That depends on the Place. If I have a Historical Place Name, I probably WILL accept the PNA suggestion, but will go add the Historical Place Name. Hope that helps, ___________________________ Russ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: John Okerson <johnokerson@gmail.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, November 9, 2011 10:57:46 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] using the Place Name Authority within FTM 2012, or earlier versions Good morning then both Russ and John, and thanks for your messages. I am working on removing the description portion of place names, and have done so to a considerable extent. Even so, when I start typing in a place name within 2012, the PNA suggests a considerable list (a good thing) but with more characters than I can reconcile visually. Do either of you actually use the suggested PNA place to click on for entry??

I'll try to help but can you explain what you mean when you say, "I have lists of people who married folks appearing within the places list. " Are you saying that names of people are listed as Place Names? BJ On 11/9/2011 7:07 AM, John Okerson wrote: > I have been a FTM 16 user, and have recently stepped into 2012. I started > with about 30,000 "places" appearing within the Places view of my file. > Having gone through the listing fully twice now, I have whittled that number > down to 20,000 with further work in progress. My perceived problem is that > when I use the PNA, I have many things that come into view whether *I* think > they should or not. > > My problem runs something like this, the place names would make sense, and > by removing descriptions, I significantly reduced the number of "places", > yet I have lists of people who married folks appearing within the places > list. WRONG, IMHO! I would like to correspond with someone who uses the > PNA itself within FTM so I can acquire usable tips. At this point, after > spending weeks correcting the PNA's lists, I have turned its use OFF as > others mentioned. Seems like a waste of a considerable resource - the > ability to name places uniformly! > > I have NOT resolved all the places, still working on them one at a time! > >

John, I think it depends on how you want to use the PNA. You certainly can Ignore that feature. I use it for current place names to make them more consistent, which, to me, is it's advantage. I Ignore those place names that are of Historical Nature. I know the place name is not current and will ignore the warning. Jurisdiction lines changed over time, I leave them. I still have a lot of PNA warning to work with, but for the above reasons, I am not in a hurry to resolve them. I do NOT change any Description fields when dealing with the PNA. Two thoughts: I the PNA, you have the choice to call the Place Name with a Short Name. It's on the Place, between the Place Name and the GPS location when you have that place selected. I also have used TWO Place Names for the same event (Fact), one with the Historical Name and the 2nd with the PNA location. Makeing the PNA name to be preferred. This is more for Migration Maps (Person Places) and to get a handle on who had a Fact / Event in that Place. It is quick, NO, it's time consuming, but for me, it's worth the time to deal with that PNA. It just depends on what you want it to do. Russ ___________________________ Russ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: John Okerson <johnokerson@gmail.com> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, November 9, 2011 10:07:27 AM Subject: [FTM-TECH] using the Place Name Authority within FTM 2012, or earlier versions I have been a FTM 16 user, and have recently stepped into 2012. I started with about 30,000 "places" appearing within the Places view of my file. Having gone through the listing fully twice now, I have whittled that number down to 20,000 with further work in progress. My perceived problem is that when I use the PNA, I have many things that come into view whether *I* think they should or not. My problem runs something like this, the place names would make sense, and by removing descriptions, I significantly reduced the number of "places", yet I have lists of people who married folks appearing within the places list. WRONG, IMHO! I would like to correspond with someone who uses the PNA itself within FTM so I can acquire usable tips. At this point, after spending weeks correcting the PNA's lists, I have turned its use OFF as others mentioned. Seems like a waste of a considerable resource - the ability to name places uniformly! I have NOT resolved all the places, still working on them one at a time! Someone care to join the fray?

The Ancestry beta app for the Android. John D Sent from Samsung Mobile John Boyd <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> wrote: > >Are you talking about the Ancestry Android Beta App, or looking at >Ancestry.com as a web site? My comment was directed at trying to view my >tree as a web site. > >I agree the Beta App is fantastic. > >John & Kathleen > >-----Original Message----- >From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of John Donaldson >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:00 AM >To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Fwd: Re: Ancestry Android Beta App > >It is excellent on a Galaxy S > >Super clear for graphics and text > > >John D > > > >********************************** >List information page >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > >Online Support for Family Tree Maker >Version 16 and earlier >http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > >Version 2008 - 2011 >http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is excellent on a Galaxy S Super clear for graphics and text John D -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of johnhboyd@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011 1:25 PM To: Ftm-Tech Subject: [FTM-TECH] Fwd: Re: Ancestry Android Beta App ----- Forwarded message ----- From: "johnhboyd@earthlink.net" <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, Nov 7, 2011 6:28 pm Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Ancestry Android Beta App To: "TH" <th4708@gmail.com> Tom, Obviously you have never tries to view your tree on your smartphone. I just tried it, and it is horrible. Text doesn't fit. Takes forever to move between screens, and you have to expand the text every time you change Windows. Sent from my HTC

These are the limitations of the first beta "Please remember that this is the first beta release, expect limited functionality and occasional bugs or crashes. It is a 'read only' experience-you will not be able to edit or update your family tree. However, you should be able to scroll through your pedigree, zoom in and out, and tap on a person in your tree to see life events and family members". John D -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda H Gutierrez Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011 7:11 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Ancestry Android Beta App Tom, Since it's a Beta version, most likely not all functionality has been added to the App. I would suggest providing your observations as feedback to Ancestry. Here is an address that seems to be the one where comments, etc., can be sent androidteam@ancestry.com.