Well, that's about the right ratio for me ... On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:56 AM, John Boyd <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> wrote: > You are forgetting Birth, Marriage, Death, Burial, multiple census repots, > etc. Even with multiple people/events in the same place, that doesn't > sound > right. I do have a few locations with 100 people, but I also have lots of > locations with only one person for each. > > John & Kathleen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Rosemary Jones > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:18 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 > > It's possible. That's less than 4 people per place. Click on some places > and > see how many people are there. Some of mine have more than 50 in a place - > over differing periods of time, certainly, but still the family is in that > place. > > Rosemary > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:10 AM, John Boyd <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > Just noticed that my list of Place Names only shows a count of 4,645. > > I know this was over 25,000 a few days ago, and since I have over > > 16,000 individuals in my file, 4,500 can't be right. > > > > > > > > John & Kathleen > > > > > > > > ********************************** > > List information page > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > > Version 16 and earlier > > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > > > Version 2008 - 2011 > > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You are forgetting Birth, Marriage, Death, Burial, multiple census repots, etc. Even with multiple people/events in the same place, that doesn't sound right. I do have a few locations with 100 people, but I also have lots of locations with only one person for each. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rosemary Jones Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:18 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 It's possible. That's less than 4 people per place. Click on some places and see how many people are there. Some of mine have more than 50 in a place - over differing periods of time, certainly, but still the family is in that place. Rosemary On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:10 AM, John Boyd <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> wrote: > Just noticed that my list of Place Names only shows a count of 4,645. > I know this was over 25,000 a few days ago, and since I have over > 16,000 individuals in my file, 4,500 can't be right. > > > > John & Kathleen > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's possible. That's less than 4 people per place. Click on some places and see how many people are there. Some of mine have more than 50 in a place - over differing periods of time, certainly, but still the family is in that place. Rosemary On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:10 AM, John Boyd <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> wrote: > Just noticed that my list of Place Names only shows a count of 4,645. I > know this was over 25,000 a few days ago, and since I have over 16,000 > individuals in my file, 4,500 can't be right. > > > > John & Kathleen > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Has anybody had this happen. As I've said before, I have a rather large database and have FTM 2012. Anytime I put a in new source, my list of individuals disappears and the busy icon shows up. Sometimes if I continue working the list will come back up with the busy icon on top. Both of them will be there : ( I can't search the list with that going on, so I have to shut it down and bring it up again. Anyone seen this happen except me. Susan -- --- Susan C. Johanson, Haymarket, VA http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johanson http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/h/Susan-C-Johanson/ ...Searching for footprints in the sands of time...

Since you have a LARGE database and the list needs to resorted, you just need to wait a bit longer. Yes, it does appear to be sorting when it really does not need to be, but the programmers know more about this than we do. How long have you waited for the sorting to be completed? And just HOW big is your database? Number of people, sources, places, etc.?? My file has 130,XXX people, 51,7XX marriages, am down to 15,767 places, 14,333 sources and 632 pieces of media. [This info is available in 2012 within the Plan view using the More... button.] I have been busy working in the PNA the last 10 days or so, and have NOT yet started with sources. John Okerson Memphis, TN

I have 2626 individuals with 934 place names. That gives me a ratio of about 2.8 : 1. You ration with 4500 is about 3 :1. So I don't find it too unreasonable. Where did you get the 25000 place names? That seems a very high number to me unless there were a lot with information other than place names. For example did you have a lot of place names which included street names some other type of comment included in the Place name field? Did you resolve any place names recently? BJ On 11/15/2011 8:10 AM, John Boyd wrote: > Just noticed that my list of Place Names only shows a count of 4,645. I > know this was over 25,000 a few days ago, and since I have over 16,000 > individuals in my file, 4,500 can't be right. > > > > John& Kathleen > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4618 - Release Date: 11/15/11 > >

Just noticed that my list of Place Names only shows a count of 4,645. I know this was over 25,000 a few days ago, and since I have over 16,000 individuals in my file, 4,500 can't be right. John & Kathleen

Since you have a LARGE database and the list needs to resorted, you just need to wait a bit longer. Yes, it does appear to be sorting when it really does not need to be, but the programmers know more about this than we do. How long have you waited for the sorting to be completed? Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Johanson Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 7:41 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] busy icon Has anybody had this happen. As I've said before, I have a rather large database and have FTM 2012. Anytime I put a in new source, my list of individuals disappears and the busy icon shows up. Sometimes if I continue working the list will come back up with the busy icon on top. Both of them will be there : ( I can't search the list with that going on, so I have to shut it down and bring it up again. Anyone seen this happen except me. Susan -- --- Susan C. Johanson, Haymarket, VA http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johanson http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/h/Susan-C-Johanson/ ...Searching for footprints in the sands of time... ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John Thanks for the assistance, all done and looking good. I am a member of VicGum and am hoping to attend on the 27th Nov. Regards John On 12/11/2011 2:36 PM, John Donaldson wrote: > > John > > Open FTM > > Go to People>Person View > > Select [say] the birth fact > > Click on Options>Fact Properties in the RH editing box > > Select Date/Place/Description > > Repeat the procedure for other facts ie; C, M, D, etc > > You only have to do it once to each Fact in FTM and it makes the change > global, ie it will apply to all Births etc in a particular file > > As you live in Melbourne, you may also be interested in attending the FTM > workshop run by VicGUM on 27 Novmember > > http://www.vicgum.asn.au/ > > John Donaldson > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of John Waite > Sent: Saturday, 12 November 2011 11:59 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] How to add a description line. > > I have FTM 2011 and would like to add a description line to the birth, > death and burial sections. > > Any ideas on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. > > John Waite > Melbourne > Australia > ********************************** > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John Open FTM Go to People>Person View Select [say] the birth fact Click on Options>Fact Properties in the RH editing box Select Date/Place/Description Repeat the procedure for other facts ie; C, M, D, etc You only have to do it once to each Fact in FTM and it makes the change global, ie it will apply to all Births etc in a particular file As you live in Melbourne, you may also be interested in attending the FTM workshop run by VicGUM on 27 Novmember http://www.vicgum.asn.au/ John Donaldson -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Waite Sent: Saturday, 12 November 2011 11:59 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] How to add a description line. I have FTM 2011 and would like to add a description line to the birth, death and burial sections. Any ideas on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. John Waite Melbourne Australia **********************************

I have FTM 2011 and would like to add a description line to the birth, death and burial sections. Any ideas on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. John Waite Melbourne Australia

Edit/Manage Facts. Click on the fact, Select Properties. Include Date/Place/Description Sent from my HTC ----- Reply message ----- From: "John Waite" <jdwaite@bigpond.net.au> Date: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 6:59 pm Subject: [FTM-TECH] How to add a description line. To: <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> I have FTM 2011 and would like to add a description line to the birth, death and burial sections. Any ideas on how to do this would be greatly appreciated. John Waite Melbourne Australia ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Fonts can only be changed in some parts of the program, like reports and trees. If it is not clickable, then you are in a part of the program where the font can't be changed with that link. The font on the main page for ver. 6 can be changed in other ways, but not from that menu. Write back if that's what you want to do. And are you using ver 6 or version 2006 ? to find the version number, go to "Help, About Family Tree Maker" Courtney sitnah@cox.net -------------------------------------------------- From: "Harold" <gosnell36@bellsouth.net> > I have FTM V-6; on the help menu it said to change Fonts click on "Format" > then the Fonts icon: > > When I click on Format, nothing is clickable. > > Any ideas? > > Harold

I have FTM V-6; on the help menu it said to change Fonts click on "Format" then the Fonts icon: When I click on Format, nothing is clickable. Any ideas? Harold

Harold, Are you talking about Version 6, which is very old. What Font are you trying to change? ___________________________ Russ Mailto:rworthington@att.net ________________________________ From: Harold <gosnell36@bellsouth.net> To: FTM-TECH@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, November 10, 2011 8:07:52 PM Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM V-6 Fonts I have FTM V-6; on the help menu it said to change Fonts click on "Format" then the Fonts icon: When I click on Format, nothing is clickable.

I am not sure what program you are using, but FTM 2005 and all those before would sort them in chronological order when you chose the sort children button. The only time they show in family order is when you first add the next spouse. Once you are done with that and chose to sort them it is always chronological. Annie in Minnesota In a message dated 11/10/2011 9:56:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, th4708@gmail.com writes: Page 56 of the online Companion Guide states: "Note: When you display a "blended family" in the family group view, you cannot change the sort order of the children, they will be listed chronologivslly by birth order." That's not so. I wish it were. Aside from the redundancy of using both chronologically and birth order in the same sentence, the children seem to be displayed as follows: First: Children born of the parents whose view is being displayed, in birth order(chronologically ;-) Next: Other children of the father in the view being displayed, in birth order Next: Other children of the wife in the view being displayed. The one thing in the above Note that is true is that you cannot change the sort order of children in the blended view. I wish we could. Comments? Tom Herson Ithaca, NY ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Page 56 of the online Companion Guide states: "Note: When you display a "blended family" in the family group view, you cannot change the sort order of the children, they will be listed chronologivslly by birth order." That's not so. I wish it were. Aside from the redundancy of using both chronologically and birth order in the same sentence, the children seem to be displayed as follows: First: Children born of the parents whose view is being displayed, in birth order(chronologically ;-) Next: Other children of the father in the view being displayed, in birth order Next: Other children of the wife in the view being displayed. The one thing in the above Note that is true is that you cannot change the sort order of children in the blended view. I wish we could. Comments? Tom Herson Ithaca, NY

It was displayed as you describe last night on the webinar too. Duff Wilson, Jr. also mentioned an update coming out 'in a couple of weeks and the statement was made that FTM for Mac 2 would be released by the end of November - presumably 2011.

He is talking about FTM 2012 which is the first version of FTM to offer blended families. As I recall FTM 16 and earlier will only show the children of two marriages IF you elect to attach the children of the previous marriage to the subsequent marriage. This is not exactly the same thing as the FTM 2012 Blended Family feature. BJ On 11/10/2011 8:15 AM, Hcounter@aol.com wrote: > I am not sure what program you are using, but FTM 2005 and all those before > would sort them in chronological order when you chose the sort children > button. The only time they show in family order is when you first add the > next spouse. Once you are done with that and chose to sort them it is > always chronological. > > Annie in Minnesota > > > In a message dated 11/10/2011 9:56:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, > th4708@gmail.com writes: > > Page 56 of the online Companion Guide states: > > "Note: When you display a "blended family" in the family group view, > you cannot change the sort order of the children, they will be listed > chronologivslly by birth order." > > That's not so. I wish it were. Aside from the redundancy of using both > chronologically and birth order in the same sentence, the children > seem to be displayed as follows: > > First: Children born of the parents whose view is being displayed, in > birth order(chronologically ;-) > > Next: Other children of the father in the view being displayed, in birth > order > > Next: Other children of the wife in the view being displayed. > > The one thing in the above Note that is true is that you cannot change > the sort order of children in the blended view. I wish we could. > > Comments? > > Tom Herson > Ithaca, NY > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4608 - Release Date: 11/10/11 > >

I agree that the statement in the Companion Guide is not accurate. I believe you are incorrect in your assessment about the children in the marriage of the spouse displayed as being in chronological order. I have found that the order selected by the user is displayed for the appropriate spouse. I think the order of the subsequent marriages is actually based upon the dates of the marriages. Theoretically, if all children are in the chronological order of the respective marriages AND the first marriage is selected as the displayed marriage, the children might be listed chronologically. The Companion Guide is correct in that the order of the display of the children cannot be changed while in the Blended view. Personally, I don't always use the chronological order and prefer the current logic; however, I agree that if the user wanted to display the blended family and then sort the children in chronological order they should be able to do so but the user must recognize that it might then be impossible to see which children were the product of which marriage. BJ On 11/10/2011 7:47 AM, TH wrote: > Page 56 of the online Companion Guide states: > > "Note: When you display a "blended family" in the family group view, > you cannot change the sort order of the children, they will be listed > chronologivslly by birth order." > > That's not so. I wish it were. Aside from the redundancy of using both > chronologically and birth order in the same sentence, the children > seem to be displayed as follows: > > First: Children born of the parents whose view is being displayed, in > birth order(chronologically ;-) > > Next: Other children of the father in the view being displayed, in birth order > > Next: Other children of the wife in the view being displayed. > > The one thing in the above Note that is true is that you cannot change > the sort order of children in the blended view. I wish we could. > > Comments? > > Tom Herson > Ithaca, NY > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4607 - Release Date: 11/09/11 > >