Susan The questions that would be asking are........ What are your computers specs? Processor type, speed, RAM, etc?? What Windows version are you using? How often do you compact your database? I recently updated my computer from a 3.2 MHz Pentium 4 circa 2002 to a new iMac i5 with 16 GB of RAM running Parallels 7 and Windows 7 64 bit I did a number of comparative tests using my P4, a new Toshiba laptop with W7, a Macbook Pro a Mac Mini and my new iMac Some of the differences in performance were staggering, like a 400% improvement with a kinship report on a 7,000 person database. Also the speed of FTM Mac over FTM Windows is startling, the Mac wins hands down every time on the same database. Possibly because Mac doesn't use .Net 4? I only wish the Mac version had the same features as 2012 I would use it in a flash. I think if you could provide some definitive information including what you term a "large" database plus respond to the suggestions above, possibly better responses could be provided? John Donaldson -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Johanson Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2011 2:41 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] busy icon Has anybody had this happen. As I've said before, I have a rather large database and have FTM 2012. Anytime I put a in new source, my list of individuals disappears and the busy icon shows up. Sometimes if I continue working the list will come back up with the busy icon on top. Both of them will be there : ( I can't search the list with that going on, so I have to shut it down and bring it up again. Anyone seen this happen except me. Susan

Lovely machine John now has. What a shame that the only genealogy program that can take full advantage of it is MacFamily Tree. The point is that whilst Ancestry ought to get round to raisng the minimum specs to 2GB taking the total above 3GB will not really help unless you are multi-tasking to the extreme. FTM both Windows and Mac is 32bit and cannot address the additonal Ram above around 3.5. If you have a large database and want to use FTM you will encounter performance problems. Tony On 16/11/2011 00:27, "John Donaldson" <johndd@iinet.net.au> wrote: > Unfortunately the term "new computer" does not convey any detail about its > specs. Bit like saying you have a new car or a new dress. Doesn't convey > much useful information > > But with the size of the database that you are using, I would think you > would want more than 4 GB or RAM and an i5 processor or better > > John D > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Susan Johanson > Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2011 11:06 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] busy icon > > I have about 67,519 people, 24,296 marriages, and 439 media items in my > database, and I have a new computer. > > I have mainly noted this problem when adding sources. Why... I don't > know what sources have to do with the index. Sometimes the sorting > never gets completed or completes with the busy icon still there, and I > have to shut down and come back up. Most of the time I just work on, > and if I have to search for somebody I have found a "work around". I can > go to the person tab then click on "index of individuals" after a minute > or so a window will come up with the index, and I can search and go to a > particular person in my database. But it takes time and patience. > Other than this problem with the index, FTM 2012 works faster than > previous ones, but the problem with the index is aggravating. > > Susan > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Stray thought - try tools, options, turn off/uncheck the "check for program updates ..." and the "search online automatically.... " and see if it makes a difference Courtney -------------------------------------------------- From: "Susan Johanson" <scjohanson5@comcast.net> > I have about 67,519 people, 24,296 marriages, and 439 media items in my > database, and I have a new computer. > > I have mainly noted this problem when adding sources. Why... I don't > know what sources have to do with the index. Sometimes the sorting > never gets completed or completes with the busy icon still there, and I > have to shut down and come back up. Most of the time I just work on, > and if I have to search for somebody I have found a "work around". I can > go to the person tab then click on "index of individuals" after a minute > or so a window will come up with the index, and I can search and go to a > particular person in my database. But it takes time and patience. > Other than this problem with the index, FTM 2012 works faster than > previous ones, but the problem with the index is aggravating. > > Susan

John, I spell out the full name of New South Wales. I have a number of people who became forcible citizens of Van Diemen's Land. Rosemary On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:31 PM, John Donaldson <johndd@iinet.net.au> wrote: > > > John, > > And do you have Van Diemen's Land in your places? Colony of New South Wales > instead of NSW, Australia? > > No, but mainly because I don't have any events that occurred when they were > the correct names. > > If I did I would likely use them and ignore the PNA. That is why I say that > I don't use the PNA 100% of the time, there are valid exceptions. > > I do have a source for example, "Colony of Queensland" which is correct for > the person involved, whereas later sources are "State of Queensland, birth, > death, certificate etc > > I spell out New South Wales and do not use the common abbreviations NSW or > N.S.W. > > The beauty of the PNA is that you can use it as little or as much as you > want. > > Understand that and it all makes wonderful sense. Couple it with short > place > names and you have most bases covered > > John D > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John, And do you have Van Diemen's Land in your places? Colony of New South Wales instead of NSW, Australia? I'm of 2 minds what to do about these and vacillate from one method to the other; keeping the original Colony names or just converting all to post 1901 names. Rosemary On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:55 PM, John Donaldson <johndd@iinet.net.au> wrote: > It took me about a weekend to resolve them when I converted from FTM 16 to > FTM 2008. Of course you don't have to do it in one sitting, work through it > but be consistent in your database. > > I had used the slash delimiter correctly in FTM 16 and earlier (it goes > back > actually to version 7) so my Descriptions were not mixed up with my Places > when I converted. > > I was surprised how inconsistent my place names were and I found the > process > of cleaning them up very satisfying. > > "Melbourne, Victoria Australia" is different to "Melbourne" or "Melbourne > Australia" even although the place is physically the same. It is easy to > get > lazy when entering places, and of course if you use any web merging, etc, > then place names could be anything and may need attention. > > The replace function is priceless here > > And of course if you have your places consistent, the custom report/ export > filter works as it should.... an added bonus. > > I don't use any abbreviations in my place list preferring the full name. > Everyone in Australia would know where "Tassie" is but if you sent that > place to somewhere else it may not be recognized. (It is actually Tasmania, > Australia, an island State south of the Australian continent much beloved > by > the Brits as a penal settlement, but now a lovely holiday island) > > I also spell out all the USA states even although I know the abbreviations. > "WA" may mean Washington State to FTM, but here it is the state of Western > Australia. > > Paying attention to this detail makes FTM work as designed > > John D > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of John Okerson > Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2011 11:34 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 > > > I like BJ have all my Place names resolved so there are no tags when > scrolling the place list > > This has another priceless advantage > > > I am about 4,500 unresolved places from your status. My goal is to get > there, and I work on it diligently. I know that I could resolve ALL, but > that would be giving up, eh? > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have about 67,519 people, 24,296 marriages, and 439 media items in my database, and I have a new computer. I have mainly noted this problem when adding sources. Why... I don't know what sources have to do with the index. Sometimes the sorting never gets completed or completes with the busy icon still there, and I have to shut down and come back up. Most of the time I just work on, and if I have to search for somebody I have found a "work around". I can go to the person tab then click on "index of individuals" after a minute or so a window will come up with the index, and I can search and go to a particular person in my database. But it takes time and patience. Other than this problem with the index, FTM 2012 works faster than previous ones, but the problem with the index is aggravating. Susan -- --- Susan C. Johanson, Haymarket, VA http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johanson http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/h/Susan-C-Johanson/ ...Searching for footprints in the sands of time...

Susan, thanks for the suggestion of using the F2 Key for the Index Window. That is a wonderful asset that I was not aware of. Carmeletta in Tulsa. -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rosemary Jones Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:17 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] busy icon Susan, No matter where you are, People, Media, Sources, etc the F2 key brings up an index in a new window with Birth, Marriage and Death displayed. One of my favourite shortcuts. Rosemary On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Susan Johanson <scjohanson5@comcast.net>wrote: > I have about 67,519 people, 24,296 marriages, and 439 media items in > my database, and I have a new computer. > > I have mainly noted this problem when adding sources. Why... I don't > know what sources have to do with the index. Sometimes the sorting > never gets completed or completes with the busy icon still there, and > I have to shut down and come back up. Most of the time I just work > on, and if I have to search for somebody I have found a "work around". > I can go to the person tab then click on "index of individuals" after > a minute or so a window will come up with the index, and I can search > and go to a particular person in my database. But it takes time and patience. > Other than this problem with the index, FTM 2012 works faster than > previous ones, but the problem with the index is aggravating. > > Susan > > -- > --- > Susan C. Johanson, Haymarket, VA > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johanson > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/h/Susan-C-Johanson/ > ...Searching for footprints in the sands of time... > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> I like BJ have all my Place names resolved so there are no tags when scrolling the place list This has another priceless advantage I am about 4,500 unresolved places from your status. My goal is to get there, and I work on it diligently. I know that I could resolve ALL, but that would be giving up, eh?

Resolve All is not allowing the program to use a set of default Place Names. It produces a list of all unresolved place names and offers you, the user, options for resolving them. It's use has its place in the overall strategy of resolving the place names. I like it for certain areas such as when the comments and place names have been imported from FTM 16 and earlier. BJ On 11/15/2011 4:34 PM, John Okerson wrote: > I am about 4,500 unresolved places from your status. My goal is to get > there, and I work on it diligently. I know that I could resolve ALL, > but that would be giving up, eh?

Susan, No matter where you are, People, Media, Sources, etc the F2 key brings up an index in a new window with Birth, Marriage and Death displayed. One of my favourite shortcuts. Rosemary On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Susan Johanson <scjohanson5@comcast.net>wrote: > I have about 67,519 people, 24,296 marriages, and 439 media items in my > database, and I have a new computer. > > I have mainly noted this problem when adding sources. Why... I don't > know what sources have to do with the index. Sometimes the sorting > never gets completed or completes with the busy icon still there, and I > have to shut down and come back up. Most of the time I just work on, > and if I have to search for somebody I have found a "work around". I can > go to the person tab then click on "index of individuals" after a minute > or so a window will come up with the index, and I can search and go to a > particular person in my database. But it takes time and patience. > Other than this problem with the index, FTM 2012 works faster than > previous ones, but the problem with the index is aggravating. > > Susan > > -- > --- > Susan C. Johanson, Haymarket, VA > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=johanson > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/j/o/h/Susan-C-Johanson/ > ...Searching for footprints in the sands of time... > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have an average of six people per place. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Rosemary Jones Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:05 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 Well, that's about the right ratio for me ... On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:56 AM, John Boyd <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> wrote: > You are forgetting Birth, Marriage, Death, Burial, multiple census repots, > etc. Even with multiple people/events in the same place, that doesn't > sound > right. I do have a few locations with 100 people, but I also have lots of > locations with only one person for each. > > John & Kathleen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Rosemary Jones > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:18 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 > > It's possible. That's less than 4 people per place. Click on some places > and > see how many people are there. Some of mine have more than 50 in a place - > over differing periods of time, certainly, but still the family is in that > place. > > Rosemary > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:10 AM, John Boyd <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > Just noticed that my list of Place Names only shows a count of 4,645. > > I know this was over 25,000 a few days ago, and since I have over > > 16,000 individuals in my file, 4,500 can't be right. > > > > > > > > John & Kathleen > > > > > > > > ********************************** > > List information page > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > > Version 16 and earlier > > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > > > Version 2008 - 2011 > > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Compacted today, and Yes, I resolve place names regularly. Apparently 1 unique place name per 4 individuals is about the right ratio. Would have thought it would be much higher. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Donaldson Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:43 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 When did you last compact your database? Do you regularly resolve place names and do you merge like place names? John Donaldson -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Boyd Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2011 3:10 AM To: Ftm-Tech Subject: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 Just noticed that my list of Place Names only shows a count of 4,645. I know this was over 25,000 a few days ago, and since I have over 16,000 individuals in my file, 4,500 can't be right. John & Kathleen ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Also the speed of FTM Mac over FTM Windows is startling, the Mac wins > hands down every time on the same database. Possibly because Mac doesn't use .Net 4? I only wish the Mac version had the same features as 2012 I would use it in a flash. I have two friends who eagerly await FTM for Mac 2, supposedly the name of the 2012 equivalent from Ancestry.com which is due out before the end of November 2011!

Gee, then what words of wisdom would you propose rather than just telling us that we don't know what we're talking about? I originally posed the question about checking to see if there was problem with my system. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of TH Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:09 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 I don't think those ratios mean anything at all. It doesn't seem like that's a very good way to determine whether or not your system is working. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:54 PM, John Boyd <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> wrote: > Well, I went back and looked at another file I have.  130,000 > individuals, and 31,000 places.  Also, I am working on resolving the > place names, so the > 31,000 will go down.  Guess 1 unique name per 4 individuals is about right. > > John & Kathleen >

I keep PNA turned on all the time. Doesn't mean that I have to spend 8 hours a day working on resolving places, but I like to see the flag pop up when I put In a new place name. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Okerson Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:04 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 > Well, I went back and looked at another file I have. 130,000 > individuals, and 31,000 places. Also, I am working on resolving the place names, so the 31,000 will go down. Guess 1 unique name per 4 individuals is about right. My primary file has a bit over 130,XXX folks and when I started with FTM 2012 and the PNA, I had over 30,000 "place names" too. I am currently down to about 15,6XX place names by conglomerating names - a variety of spellings. Of those 15,6XX names, about 10,2XX do NOT have place warning flags. I expect that I will continue towards a lower number over time, but my 8 hour days of PNA editing will not reduce that number by 1,000+ per day anymore. I hope to get to a point where I shall feel comfortable turning the PNA back ON. John Okerson Memphis, TN ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't think those ratios mean anything at all. It doesn't seem like that's a very good way to determine whether or not your system is working. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:54 PM, John Boyd <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> wrote: > Well, I went back and looked at another file I have.  130,000 individuals, > and 31,000 places.  Also, I am working on resolving the place names, so the > 31,000 will go down.  Guess 1 unique name per 4 individuals is about right. > > John & Kathleen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of John Boyd > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:25 PM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 > > Can't remember the specifics, and may just be thinking of another file > entirely. > > John & Kathleen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of BJ > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:13 PM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 > > I have 2626 individuals with 934 place names.  That gives me a ratio of > about 2.8 : 1.  You ration with 4500 is about 3 :1.  So I don't find it too > unreasonable. > > Where did you get the 25000 place names?  That seems a very high number to > me unless there were a lot with information other than place names. > For example did you have a lot of place names which included street names > some other type of comment included in the Place name field? > > Did you resolve any place names recently? > > BJ > > On 11/15/2011 8:10 AM, John Boyd wrote: >> Just noticed that my list of Place Names only shows a count of 4,645. >> I know this was over 25,000 a few days ago, and since I have over >> 16,000 individuals in my file, 4,500 can't be right. >> >> >> >> John&  Kathleen >> >> >> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> Online Support for Family Tree Maker >> Version 16 and earlier >> http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ >> >> Version 2008 - 2011 >> http://ftm.custhelp.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4618 - Release Date: >> 11/15/11 >> >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I agree the ratios are not good indicators of whether the system is working. They are simply indicators of how others have resolved their Place names. I think we can all agree that a ratio of 2:1 is not the best. A ratio of 10:1 is probably also abnormal. So it gives us a range for estimating how well we have done in standardizing our Place Names. The best way that I've found is to simply start down the list of Place Names. I can give them a cursory look to see whether they are easily resolved or not. I've found a lot of duplicates in the names which tend to be easily resolved. Other types of differences include additional words and differences in spelling. Again these are easily changed. I also change the country name of United States of America to USA which is the FTM default. Other country names may also be changed to a more common and uniform name and spelling. The next big area of differences are the comments or very detailed information in the place names. This one area where using the Resolve All feature can be used as it offers tools to let you exchange the contents of two fields. Examples are Cemetery names, Hospital names, Street names. Once I see them, it is rather easy to cut and paste those types of prefixes from the Place Name Field and paste them into the description field. My goal is to standardize my Place Names; however, if I have historically accurate names especially if they are documented, then I leave them as unresolved. Good luck with your efforts. I've found it a very useful exercise. BJ On 11/15/2011 2:21 PM, John Boyd wrote: > Gee, then what words of wisdom would you propose rather than just telling us > that we don't know what we're talking about? I originally posed the > question about checking to see if there was problem with my system.

> Well, I went back and looked at another file I have. 130,000 individuals, and 31,000 places. Also, I am working on resolving the place names, so the 31,000 will go down. Guess 1 unique name per 4 individuals is about right. My primary file has a bit over 130,XXX folks and when I started with FTM 2012 and the PNA, I had over 30,000 "place names" too. I am currently down to about 15,6XX place names by conglomerating names - a variety of spellings. Of those 15,6XX names, about 10,2XX do NOT have place warning flags. I expect that I will continue towards a lower number over time, but my 8 hour days of PNA editing will not reduce that number by 1,000+ per day anymore. I hope to get to a point where I shall feel comfortable turning the PNA back ON. John Okerson Memphis, TN

Well, I went back and looked at another file I have. 130,000 individuals, and 31,000 places. Also, I am working on resolving the place names, so the 31,000 will go down. Guess 1 unique name per 4 individuals is about right. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Boyd Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:25 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 Can't remember the specifics, and may just be thinking of another file entirely. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:13 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 I have 2626 individuals with 934 place names. That gives me a ratio of about 2.8 : 1. You ration with 4500 is about 3 :1. So I don't find it too unreasonable. Where did you get the 25000 place names? That seems a very high number to me unless there were a lot with information other than place names. For example did you have a lot of place names which included street names some other type of comment included in the Place name field? Did you resolve any place names recently? BJ On 11/15/2011 8:10 AM, John Boyd wrote: > Just noticed that my list of Place Names only shows a count of 4,645. > I know this was over 25,000 a few days ago, and since I have over > 16,000 individuals in my file, 4,500 can't be right. > > > > John& Kathleen > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4618 - Release Date: > 11/15/11 > > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can't remember the specifics, and may just be thinking of another file entirely. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:13 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Place name list, FTM 2012 I have 2626 individuals with 934 place names. That gives me a ratio of about 2.8 : 1. You ration with 4500 is about 3 :1. So I don't find it too unreasonable. Where did you get the 25000 place names? That seems a very high number to me unless there were a lot with information other than place names. For example did you have a lot of place names which included street names some other type of comment included in the Place name field? Did you resolve any place names recently? BJ On 11/15/2011 8:10 AM, John Boyd wrote: > Just noticed that my list of Place Names only shows a count of 4,645. > I know this was over 25,000 a few days ago, and since I have over > 16,000 individuals in my file, 4,500 can't be right. > > > > John& Kathleen > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1869 / Virus Database: 2092/4618 - Release Date: > 11/15/11 > > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message