> Yes, I know John, that's what I use. What takes the time is scrolling through 2,000 place names to find the ones that have been duplicated and then fixing 85 of them. If your problem is locating the places with flags, choosing 'Resolve All Place Names' brings up a list of only those with the flag, and the suggested replacement. I do NOT use the given suggestion very often, but it is an easier way to see the list of unresolved place names. What such a choice does NOT display is where you have a very similarly name place already. The only way *I* know of to find those is to scan through the entire list of place names. My list of places is down from over 30,000 to about 15,000, so YES I have spent many entire DAYS working on the list of places. What I am doing with Ancestry.com's hints keeps creating new unresolved places when I miss them. I find that they are there by seeing the unusual place name displayed in the list of choices and then go to Places to repair them! Hope that idea helps. John Okerson

> See comments below. > >BJ said: > > I just opened the "Use Existing Source Citation" option but it didn't > display a selected source-citation.  It displayed a list of all > source-citations and I must scroll the list to select the desired > source-citation.  I even went to the People, Fact and ensured the > existing source-citation is highlighted.  The dialog box still shows the > complete list with nothing highlighted. >> I've found that the last source I created is the one highlighted in the pop-up box. Thus, I add the source immediately to the other facts and don't have to scroll though the hundreds of sources. For example, I have a new source that I want to use for the name and age facts. I add the source to the name fact. Then, for the age fact, I select 'use existing source citation'. The source I just added will be highlighted and I can link to it. ~~ Barb

BJ and John D., As we have been talking about and identified a couple of different Place name problems today, do you suppose that Ancestry is aware of either one of them? And how do we get to the people who can fix the problem? Is there someone we can send samples to? Jay Thompson just an old genealogy nut too tough to crack. ________________________________ From: BJ <bhamilton3@cox.net> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, December 4, 2011 8:58:18 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 and 2012 The problem is the program is generating duplicate place names for no reason. Why should a user have to go through and correct a problem which should not exist if the program is working properly. On 12/4/2011 5:04 PM, John Donaldson wrote: > Yes it does but you are rewarded by clean place data > > Caroline Gurney wrote: > > Yes, I know John, that's what I use. What takes the time is scrolling > through 2,000 place names to find the ones that have been duplicated and > then fixing 85 of them. ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The problem is the program is generating duplicate place names for no reason. Why should a user have to go through and correct a problem which should not exist if the program is working properly. On 12/4/2011 5:04 PM, John Donaldson wrote: > Yes it does but you are rewarded by clean place data > > Caroline Gurney wrote: > > Yes, I know John, that's what I use. What takes the time is scrolling > through 2,000 place names to find the ones that have been duplicated and > then fixing 85 of them.

I agree and I'm not saying the problem is acceptable. I always eliminate any duplicates I have. BJ On 12/4/2011 2:27 PM, Caroline Gurney wrote: > It's a problem for me: > > a) Duplicates mess up the places and maps on my website: > www.carosfamily.com/places.php. > > b) If I don't remove the duplicates within FTM they become triplicates > and even quadruplicates. I have no desire to double or treble the size > of my place list. > > c) When adding a new fact, I don't want to be presented with two or > more versions of the same place to choose from. >

I don't know if this is relevant to the current discussion but I have had trouble with the Places function of FTM in versions 2010, 2011 and now 2012. I do not find the Place Name Authority helpful because many places in the UK are missing, or the entries are wrong, and because it does not go down to the level of detail I require. I have therefore switched off the option to check the PNA when entering place names. When I resolve place names, FTM always offers an alternative one level higher than the one I have entered. So if I enter "Horse Street, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England" it suggests "Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England" but if I enter "Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England" it only offers "Gloucestershire, England". As a result, all the place names I enter have to be marked as Ignore. Because I have the PNA check switched off, when I enter a place name, the Fast Field only offers places already in my database. If I select one of them, the program should add the new fact to that existing place. Frequently, however, it creates a duplicate place. I then have to go through the Places list manually replacing the duplicate with the original place. This happens over and over again. Since there is no search for duplicates function in the Places workspace, it is very time consuming and tedious. I mentioned this problem when commenting on an Ancestry.com blog post and quite a few others commented that they had the same problem, so it is a fault in the software, not my database. FTM 2011 introduced the option to choose to exclude a country from Resolved place names. In both FTM 2011 and FTM 2012 I have tried having that set to England but it doesn't work. England still shows up in all my English place names. Caroline Gurney www.carosfamily.com www.cmgurney.blogspot.com

Great when it works. Unfortunately, I only had to try it three times to find two place names that it won't correct. I have Tennessee, USA and Texas, USA listed twice, and nothing will compress those to one listing each. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Donaldson Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 5:08 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 and 2012 The PNA has an excellent tool to replace a place name with another. Great for fixing duplicates and near duplicates Simply right click on the duplicate place name and then select replace with another and select the name that you want to substitute John D

Caroline, The PNA does not go to the street level. It is designed for city or town, county, country, in that order. Street names and other information about a place should be added to the description. I suspect like some of the other place names I have in my database, that they are not current place names and therefore cannot be resolved. So if a lot of your place names are Historic place names, they will not be in the PNA. Since I am just beginning my UK research I am not familiar with place name changes there so I have no idea if there is an additional issue at play here. I do understand that what you are seeing seems to be an additional issue other than Historic place names. If you click to resolve what happens? Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Caroline Gurney Sent: Sunday, 04 December, 2011 11:44 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 and 2012 I don't know if this is relevant to the current discussion but I have had trouble with the Places function of FTM in versions 2010, 2011 and now 2012. I do not find the Place Name Authority helpful because many places in the UK are missing, or the entries are wrong, and because it does not go down to the level of detail I require. I have therefore switched off the option to check the PNA when entering place names. When I resolve place names, FTM always offers an alternative one level higher than the one I have entered. So if I enter "Horse Street, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England" it suggests "Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England" but if I enter "Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England" it only offers "Gloucestershire, England". As a result, all the place names I enter have to be marked as Ignore. Because I have the PNA check switched off, when I enter a place name, the Fast Field only offers places already in my database. If I select one of them, the program should add the new fact to that existing place. Frequently, however, it creates a duplicate place. I then have to go through the Places list manually replacing the duplicate with the original place. This happens over and over again. Since there is no search for duplicates function in the Places workspace, it is very time consuming and tedious. I mentioned this problem when commenting on an Ancestry.com blog post and quite a few others commented that they had the same problem, so it is a fault in the software, not my database. FTM 2011 introduced the option to choose to exclude a country from Resolved place names. In both FTM 2011 and FTM 2012 I have tried having that set to England but it doesn't work. England still shows up in all my English place names. Caroline Gurney www.carosfamily.com www.cmgurney.blogspot.com

I have seen a few duplicates listed separately in the Places list, but haven't spent any time worrying about it. Frankly, I can't figure out that it makes any difference any place. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Gurney Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 1:29 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 and 2012 I've just spent two hours working through my list of Places. It's been a while since I last did it. I have just over 2000 individual place names and I found that 85 duplicates had been created. I do wish Ancestry would fix this problem. Caroline Gurney www.carosfamily.com www.cmgurney.blogspot.com

I am thinking that when I tried this I found a crucial difference between Use Duplicate and Link. The Use Duplicate creates a new source citation for that specific fact. If I use the Link option, it is like a shortcut, and if I change the original Source Citation, it changes all of the ones linked to it. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 1:13 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Paste Link to Source Citation - Ver 2012 See comments below. BJ On 12/4/2011 8:34 AM, Barb Januscheitis wrote: > Thanks, BJ > > The reason I use #1 so much is when I'm adding a new source citation > that will be used for multiple facts and I'm going to source them > immediately. When I select Use Existing SC, the citation I'm using is > highlighted in the pop-up box and I can just click to use it. Saves > a step or two. I'll have to try it. I normally start at the Source, Manage Source work area entering the fact and making sure everything is as I want. At that point, I click Copy. I then go to People, Person and enter my facts. After entering the fact information, Click on the Source drop down arrow and select Paste Link. I guess it is a matter of personal preferences. I just opened the "Use Existing Source Citation" option but it didn't display a selected source-citation. It displayed a list of all source-citations and I must scroll the list to select the desired source-citation. I even went to the People, Fact and ensured the existing source-citation is highlighted. The dialog box still shows the complete list with nothing highlighted. > > I'm thinking the results are the same (one source with multiple facts > linked to it) if you use #1& #3. But there would be only one fact > linked to a SC if you used #2 (copy/paste). Even if you 'pasted' the > same copy to several facts. If you select "Paste Duplicate" it creates a second copy of the source-citation. I only use that option if I'm making a change to the information in the Citation Detail, Citation Text, Citation Note or Reference Note. You get the same results using the "Use Existing Source Citation" and the "Create New Copy" button. > Barb > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:18 AM, BJ<bhamilton3@cox.net> wrote: >> The only difference between item 1 versus items 2 and 3 is whether >> you have previously used the "Copy" for a source-citation. If you >> have previously copied a source-citation, then you have the options, >> 2 and 3. If you have not previously copied a source-citation, they >> you can use item 1 to select the source-citation and either "Link To Citation" >> (same as item 3) or "Create New Copy" (same as item 2). >> >> It all boils down to flexibility within the program of where you >> start the process. Personally, I find using Copy/Paste to be easier >> than ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Works like it is supposed to. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Thompson Jay Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 12:49 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration John, maybe this is the difference. Create your new file. Enter El Campo, Wharton County, Texas for Birth place. Check places and make sure it is resolved. Then go to Death place and see what the Fast Field does when you start to type in the same entry. Then check Places again. Jay Thompson just an old genealogy nut too tough to crack. ________________________________ From: John Boyd <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, December 4, 2011 8:29:37 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration Jay/BJ Just tried creating a new test file. When I entered the birth location for my father, the Fast Field list showed El Campo, Wharton, Texas, USA. When I selected that and hit enter, the USA disappeared from the place listing in the Birth Fact. I then tried with my mother. Tahoka popped up Tahoka, Lynn, Texas, USA in the Fast Field list. Selecting that and hitting Enter put Tahoka, Lynn, Texas in the place field for Birth. The Places tab now lists two locations, both resolved, and neither displaying the USA Having the USA show up in the Fast Field list makes sense, since there are lots of places around the world with the same town name. You need to be able to select the right one, including country. Once selected, the USA is just not displayed, but is still kept as the right country location. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:22 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration Send it if you don't mind. BJ On 12/3/2011 6:24 PM, Thompson Jay wrote: > BJ, > > New Tree With Fast Fact on, USA off > Entered Me. > Born in Cass County, Indiana. (Resolved Immediately- No USA) Went to > Places- only place was Cass County, Indiana resolved Entered my > father. > Born in Ca (Fast Fact suggested Cass County, Indiana, USA) Accepted ( > Cass County, Indiana, USA was entered) Went to Places (now two > entries- Cass County, Indiana resolved and Cass County, Indiana, USA > unresolved) > > I can send you this little file if you want. > > Jay Thompson > just an old genealogy nut > too tough to crack. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: BJ<bhamilton3@cox.net> > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 8:38:02 PM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration > > Jay, > > Can you try this using a new data base. Create a New data base with > one persons. Enter a fact and input a place. Places from the PNA > should begin being displayed after you type the first character. > Enter a non-resolved place name. Now resolve the place name. Enter a > new fact using the same place name, and describe your observations. > > BJ > > On 12/3/2011 4:19 PM, Thompson Jay wrote: >> I agree, John, in fact I have that place associated with almost 6000 people. >> All >> instances have been resolved to one place name. But if the USA is >> supposed to be turned off why does the Fast Fact enter it when I opt >> for the suggestion? >> Alternately, why doesn't the Fast Fact show the name without the USA >> on the end? >> >> Jay Thompson >> just an old genealogy nut >> too tough to crack. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: John Boyd<johnhboyd@earthlink.net> >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 7:05:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Fast Facts shows place names that are currently used someplace in >> your file. >> It doesn't care if the place names meet the requirements for PNA or not. >> So, if a place name shows up in the suggested list, including the >> USA, that means that you still have that name in your file someplace >> including the USA. >> >> John& Kathleen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Thompson Jay >> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 4:22 PM >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Russ, >> See comments interspersed. BTW I am using FTM2012, build 388. >> >> Maybe I'm messing something up. >> If anyone would like to try and duplicate this: >> 1. Turn off USA and turn on Fast Facts 2. Enter a new person name. >> 3. Enter enough of a known resolved place name that the Fast Fact >> kicks in. >> Is the USA on the end? >> 4. select the Fast Fact offering. >> Is the USA on the end? >> 5. Go to "Places". >> Is the place name now listed twice? One resolved without the USA and >> one unresolved with the USA? >> >> Jay Thompson >> just an old genealogy nut >> too tough to crack. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: H R Worthington<rworthington@att.net> >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 3:43:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Jay, >> >> First, you can turn USA on or Off, in the Tools, Option menu. True, >> it is off >> >> For data Entry, I keep it turned ON, then turn it OFF when working on >> Charts and >> >> Reports.This keeps my data consistent and I can control the output. >> >> When you start to enter data, like "Cas" the Fast Fact will kick in >> and offer what you have used before. Currently, all Cass County, >> Indiana, USAs have been resolved to Cass County, Indiana (USA turned >> off), >> >> and Cass County, Indiana is the only entry in the PNA list. So, Cass >> County, Indiana, USA is likely to show up. >> But why, when I have the USA turned offdoes the program enter "Cass >> County, Indiana, USA" AND call it unresolved? >> >> Might the problem be that the PNA authority expects to see Cass, >> Indiana, USA as >> >> the Resolved Place Name.Then that is a program problem that needs to >> be addressed if it is being advertised >> >> that the program will recognize "County, Township, Borough, etc. >> >> You may have some Facts with the Place Name that you may not want >> still in use by someone. Have you looked at your Place Name >> Report?Yes, I am doing that now. >> But I don't want to have to spend 2 or 3 weeks every few months going >> thru it replacing the unresolved >> >> (with the USA on the end) with the resolved (without the USA). The >> correct resolved place name is already in the list. >> The unresolved place name is not in the list (until the Fast Fact >> offers it and I choose it) >> >> Russ >> >> ___________________________ >> >> >> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Thompson Jay<jaydarlene@sbcglobal.net> >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 1:08:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Thank you, BJ, >> As usual, very concise. Here is the test that I just did. Cass >> County, Indiana(no "USA) is a resolved place name (just did it last >> night). I go to a new person and start to type in the birthplace. >> C-a-s. The program suggests Cass >> >> >> County, Indiana, USA. It does not suggest Cass County, Indiana. If I >> accept Cass >> >> >> County, Indiana, USA (hoping the USA will not show), I get Cass >> County, Indiana, >> >> >> USA. If I then go to Places, I have my resolved Cass County, Indiana >> AND a new Cass County, Indiana, USA that is unresolved. 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There is no real problem with having duplicate Place Names. The only problem is when you add new people to the data base, you increase the number of choices you are offered. BJ On 12/4/2011 12:03 PM, John Boyd wrote: > I have seen a few duplicates listed separately in the Places list, but > haven't spent any time worrying about it. Frankly, I can't figure out that > it makes any difference any place. > > John& Kathleen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Caroline Gurney > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 1:29 PM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 and > 2012 > > I've just spent two hours working through my list of Places. It's been a > while since I last did it. I have just over 2000 individual place names and > I found that 85 duplicates had been created. I do wish Ancestry would fix > this problem. > > Caroline Gurney > www.carosfamily.com > www.cmgurney.blogspot.com > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4656 - Release Date: 12/04/11 > >

That is correct. When you link to a source-citation, you only have one copy attached to multiple facts. If you change anything in the source-citation, that change appears for all facts because there is only one copy. When you create a new copy, (paste duplicate), you are adding an additional copy. Each of which are separate and distinct from the other. I have made use of this feature. I may find two families on the same page of a census. I enter the source-citation for the census page including lines for the family. When I begin sourcing the second family, I Paste a duplicate copy or the source-citation. I make changes in the lines. I then copy the changed source-citation and link it to the family members. Consequently, I have two distinct source-citation, each of which are linked to their own set of family members. BJ On 12/4/2011 12:01 PM, John Boyd wrote: > I am thinking that when I tried this I found a crucial difference between > Use Duplicate and Link. The Use Duplicate creates a new source citation for > that specific fact. If I use the Link option, it is like a shortcut, and if > I change the original Source Citation, it changes all of the ones linked to > it.

See comments below. BJ On 12/4/2011 8:34 AM, Barb Januscheitis wrote: > Thanks, BJ > > The reason I use #1 so much is when I'm adding a new source citation > that will be used for multiple facts and I'm going to source them > immediately. When I select Use Existing SC, the citation I'm using is > highlighted in the pop-up box and I can just click to use it. Saves > a step or two. I'll have to try it. I normally start at the Source, Manage Source work area entering the fact and making sure everything is as I want. At that point, I click Copy. I then go to People, Person and enter my facts. After entering the fact information, Click on the Source drop down arrow and select Paste Link. I guess it is a matter of personal preferences. I just opened the "Use Existing Source Citation" option but it didn't display a selected source-citation. It displayed a list of all source-citations and I must scroll the list to select the desired source-citation. I even went to the People, Fact and ensured the existing source-citation is highlighted. The dialog box still shows the complete list with nothing highlighted. > > I'm thinking the results are the same (one source with multiple facts > linked to it) if you use #1& #3. But there would be only one fact > linked to a SC if you used #2 (copy/paste). Even if you 'pasted' the > same copy to several facts. If you select "Paste Duplicate" it creates a second copy of the source-citation. I only use that option if I'm making a change to the information in the Citation Detail, Citation Text, Citation Note or Reference Note. You get the same results using the "Use Existing Source Citation" and the "Create New Copy" button. > Barb > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:18 AM, BJ<bhamilton3@cox.net> wrote: >> The only difference between item 1 versus items 2 and 3 is whether you >> have previously used the "Copy" for a source-citation. If you have >> previously copied a source-citation, then you have the options, 2 and >> 3. If you have not previously copied a source-citation, they you can >> use item 1 to select the source-citation and either "Link To Citation" >> (same as item 3) or "Create New Copy" (same as item 2). >> >> It all boils down to flexibility within the program of where you start >> the process. Personally, I find using Copy/Paste to be easier than

John, maybe this is the difference. Create your new file. Enter El Campo, Wharton County, Texas for Birth place. Check places and make sure it is resolved. Then go to Death place and see what the Fast Field does when you start to type in the same entry. Then check Places again. Jay Thompson just an old genealogy nut too tough to crack. ________________________________ From: John Boyd <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, December 4, 2011 8:29:37 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration Jay/BJ Just tried creating a new test file. When I entered the birth location for my father, the Fast Field list showed El Campo, Wharton, Texas, USA. When I selected that and hit enter, the USA disappeared from the place listing in the Birth Fact. I then tried with my mother. Tahoka popped up Tahoka, Lynn, Texas, USA in the Fast Field list. Selecting that and hitting Enter put Tahoka, Lynn, Texas in the place field for Birth. The Places tab now lists two locations, both resolved, and neither displaying the USA Having the USA show up in the Fast Field list makes sense, since there are lots of places around the world with the same town name. You need to be able to select the right one, including country. Once selected, the USA is just not displayed, but is still kept as the right country location. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:22 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration Send it if you don't mind. BJ On 12/3/2011 6:24 PM, Thompson Jay wrote: > BJ, > > New Tree With Fast Fact on, USA off > Entered Me. > Born in Cass County, Indiana. (Resolved Immediately- No USA) Went to > Places- only place was Cass County, Indiana resolved Entered my > father. > Born in Ca (Fast Fact suggested Cass County, Indiana, USA) Accepted ( > Cass County, Indiana, USA was entered) Went to Places (now two > entries- Cass County, Indiana resolved and Cass County, Indiana, USA > unresolved) > > I can send you this little file if you want. > > Jay Thompson > just an old genealogy nut > too tough to crack. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: BJ<bhamilton3@cox.net> > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 8:38:02 PM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration > > Jay, > > Can you try this using a new data base. Create a New data base with > one persons. Enter a fact and input a place. Places from the PNA > should begin being displayed after you type the first character. > Enter a non-resolved place name. Now resolve the place name. Enter a > new fact using the same place name, and describe your observations. > > BJ > > On 12/3/2011 4:19 PM, Thompson Jay wrote: >> I agree, John, in fact I have that place associated with almost 6000 people. >> All >> instances have been resolved to one place name. But if the USA is >> supposed to be turned off why does the Fast Fact enter it when I opt >> for the suggestion? >> Alternately, why doesn't the Fast Fact show the name without the USA >> on the end? >> >> Jay Thompson >> just an old genealogy nut >> too tough to crack. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: John Boyd<johnhboyd@earthlink.net> >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 7:05:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Fast Facts shows place names that are currently used someplace in your file. >> It doesn't care if the place names meet the requirements for PNA or not. >> So, if a place name shows up in the suggested list, including the >> USA, that means that you still have that name in your file someplace >> including the USA. >> >> John& Kathleen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Thompson Jay >> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 4:22 PM >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Russ, >> See comments interspersed. BTW I am using FTM2012, build 388. >> >> Maybe I'm messing something up. >> If anyone would like to try and duplicate this: >> 1. Turn off USA and turn on Fast Facts 2. Enter a new person name. >> 3. Enter enough of a known resolved place name that the Fast Fact kicks in. >> Is the USA on the end? >> 4. select the Fast Fact offering. >> Is the USA on the end? >> 5. Go to "Places". >> Is the place name now listed twice? One resolved without the USA and >> one unresolved with the USA? >> >> Jay Thompson >> just an old genealogy nut >> too tough to crack. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: H R Worthington<rworthington@att.net> >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 3:43:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Jay, >> >> First, you can turn USA on or Off, in the Tools, Option menu. True, >> it is off >> >> For data Entry, I keep it turned ON, then turn it OFF when working on >> Charts and >> >> Reports.This keeps my data consistent and I can control the output. >> >> When you start to enter data, like "Cas" the Fast Fact will kick in >> and offer what you have used before. Currently, all Cass County, >> Indiana, USAs have been resolved to Cass County, Indiana (USA turned >> off), >> >> and Cass County, Indiana is the only entry in the PNA list. So, Cass >> County, Indiana, USA is likely to show up. >> But why, when I have the USA turned offdoes the program enter "Cass >> County, Indiana, USA" AND call it unresolved? >> >> Might the problem be that the PNA authority expects to see Cass, >> Indiana, USA as >> >> the Resolved Place Name.Then that is a program problem that needs to >> be addressed if it is being advertised >> >> that the program will recognize "County, Township, Borough, etc. >> >> You may have some Facts with the Place Name that you may not want >> still in use by someone. Have you looked at your Place Name >> Report?Yes, I am doing that now. >> But I don't want to have to spend 2 or 3 weeks every few months going >> thru it replacing the unresolved >> >> (with the USA on the end) with the resolved (without the USA). The >> correct resolved place name is already in the list. >> The unresolved place name is not in the list (until the Fast Fact >> offers it and I choose it) >> >> Russ >> >> ___________________________ >> >> >> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Thompson Jay<jaydarlene@sbcglobal.net> >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 1:08:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Thank you, BJ, >> As usual, very concise. Here is the test that I just did. Cass >> County, Indiana(no "USA) is a resolved place name (just did it last >> night). I go to a new person and start to type in the birthplace. >> C-a-s. The program suggests Cass >> >> >> County, Indiana, USA. It does not suggest Cass County, Indiana. If I >> accept Cass >> >> >> County, Indiana, USA (hoping the USA will not show), I get Cass >> County, Indiana, >> >> >> USA. If I then go to Places, I have my resolved Cass County, Indiana >> AND a new Cass County, Indiana, USA that is unresolved. 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Thanks, BJ The reason I use #1 so much is when I'm adding a new source citation that will be used for multiple facts and I'm going to source them immediately. When I select Use Existing SC, the citation I'm using is highlighted in the pop-up box and I can just click to use it. Saves a step or two. I'm thinking the results are the same (one source with multiple facts linked to it) if you use #1 & #3. But there would be only one fact linked to a SC if you used #2 (copy/paste). Even if you 'pasted' the same copy to several facts. Barb On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:18 AM, BJ <bhamilton3@cox.net> wrote: > The only difference between item 1 versus items 2 and 3 is whether you > have previously used the "Copy" for a source-citation.  If you have > previously copied a source-citation, then you have the options, 2 and > 3.  If you have not previously copied a source-citation, they you can > use item 1 to select the source-citation and either "Link To Citation" > (same as item 3) or "Create New Copy" (same as item 2). > > It all boils down to flexibility within the program of where you start > the process.  Personally, I find  using Copy/Paste to be easier than > using the Existing Source Citation method.  In fact I use it so much > that I had to search to find where you had found the "Use Existing > Source Citation" option. :-) > > I hope that answers your question. > > BJ > > On 12/4/2011 5:38 AM, Barb Januscheitis wrote: >> What is difference between >> 1. Use Existing Source Citation, >> 2. Paste Duplicate Source Citation >> 3. Paste Link to Source Citation >> >> I use #1 unless I want to make changes in the source citation for the >> fact I am attaching it to, then I use #2.  I'm not clear what #3 does >> that is different from #1. >> --             =^..^= Barbara Mann Januscheitis

FTM 2012, Ver 21.0.0.388 John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:35 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration Thank you for trying the experiment. What version of FTM are you using? What you describe is exactly what I'm experiencing also. Unfortunately, it isn't what Jay is experiencing and that's why he is so frustrated. BJ On 12/4/2011 5:29 AM, John Boyd wrote: > Jay/BJ > > Just tried creating a new test file. When I entered the birth > location for my father, the Fast Field list showed El Campo, Wharton, > Texas, USA. When I selected that and hit enter, the USA disappeared > from the place listing in the Birth Fact. I then tried with my > mother. Tahoka popped up Tahoka, Lynn, Texas, USA in the Fast Field > list. Selecting that and hitting Enter put Tahoka, Lynn, Texas in the place field for Birth. > > The Places tab now lists two locations, both resolved, and neither > displaying the USA > > Having the USA show up in the Fast Field list makes sense, since there > are lots of places around the world with the same town name. You need > to be able to select the right one, including country. Once selected, > the USA is just not displayed, but is still kept as the right country location. > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is difference between 1. Use Existing Source Citation, 2. Paste Duplicate Source Citation 3. Paste Link to Source Citation I use #1 unless I want to make changes in the source citation for the fact I am attaching it to, then I use #2. I'm not clear what #3 does that is different from #1. Thanks, Barb

Thank you for the information. Jay, About the only thing I can suggest is for you to completely uninstall FTM 2012 and try reinstalling it. Others are not encountering the problem with FTM 2012 build 388. You are encountering the problem with a new file so I think that eliminates having a problem with your file. The only thing left is with the PNA feature and you may have a bit of corrupted code or other conflict in the feature or the PNA. Hopefully, uninstalling and reinstalling will correct the problem. BJ On 12/4/2011 7:17 AM, John Boyd wrote: > FTM 2012, Ver 21.0.0.388 > > John& Kathleen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of BJ > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 8:35 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration > > Thank you for trying the experiment. What version of FTM are you using? > What you describe is exactly what I'm experiencing also. > Unfortunately, it isn't what Jay is experiencing and that's why he is so > frustrated. > > BJ > > On 12/4/2011 5:29 AM, John Boyd wrote: >> Jay/BJ >> >> Just tried creating a new test file. When I entered the birth >> location for my father, the Fast Field list showed El Campo, Wharton, >> Texas, USA. When I selected that and hit enter, the USA disappeared >> from the place listing in the Birth Fact. I then tried with my >> mother. Tahoka popped up Tahoka, Lynn, Texas, USA in the Fast Field >> list. Selecting that and hitting Enter put Tahoka, Lynn, Texas in the > place field for Birth. >> The Places tab now lists two locations, both resolved, and neither >> displaying the USA >> >> Having the USA show up in the Fast Field list makes sense, since there >> are lots of places around the world with the same town name. You need >> to be able to select the right one, including country. Once selected, >> the USA is just not displayed, but is still kept as the right country > location. > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4655 - Release Date: 12/03/11 > >

Jay/BJ Just tried creating a new test file. When I entered the birth location for my father, the Fast Field list showed El Campo, Wharton, Texas, USA. When I selected that and hit enter, the USA disappeared from the place listing in the Birth Fact. I then tried with my mother. Tahoka popped up Tahoka, Lynn, Texas, USA in the Fast Field list. Selecting that and hitting Enter put Tahoka, Lynn, Texas in the place field for Birth. The Places tab now lists two locations, both resolved, and neither displaying the USA Having the USA show up in the Fast Field list makes sense, since there are lots of places around the world with the same town name. You need to be able to select the right one, including country. Once selected, the USA is just not displayed, but is still kept as the right country location. John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 2:22 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration Send it if you don't mind. BJ On 12/3/2011 6:24 PM, Thompson Jay wrote: > BJ, > > New Tree With Fast Fact on, USA off > Entered Me. > Born in Cass County, Indiana. (Resolved Immediately- No USA) Went to > Places- only place was Cass County, Indiana resolved Entered my > father. > Born in Ca (Fast Fact suggested Cass County, Indiana, USA) Accepted ( > Cass County, Indiana, USA was entered) Went to Places (now two > entries- Cass County, Indiana resolved and Cass County, Indiana, USA > unresolved) > > I can send you this little file if you want. > > Jay Thompson > just an old genealogy nut > too tough to crack. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: BJ<bhamilton3@cox.net> > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 8:38:02 PM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration > > Jay, > > Can you try this using a new data base. Create a New data base with > one persons. Enter a fact and input a place. Places from the PNA > should begin being displayed after you type the first character. > Enter a non-resolved place name. Now resolve the place name. Enter a > new fact using the same place name, and describe your observations. > > BJ > > On 12/3/2011 4:19 PM, Thompson Jay wrote: >> I agree, John, in fact I have that place associated with almost 6000 people. >> All >> instances have been resolved to one place name. But if the USA is >> supposed to be turned off why does the Fast Fact enter it when I opt >> for the suggestion? >> Alternately, why doesn't the Fast Fact show the name without the USA >> on the end? >> >> Jay Thompson >> just an old genealogy nut >> too tough to crack. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: John Boyd<johnhboyd@earthlink.net> >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 7:05:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Fast Facts shows place names that are currently used someplace in your file. >> It doesn't care if the place names meet the requirements for PNA or not. >> So, if a place name shows up in the suggested list, including the >> USA, that means that you still have that name in your file someplace >> including the USA. >> >> John& Kathleen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Thompson Jay >> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 4:22 PM >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Russ, >> See comments interspersed. BTW I am using FTM2012, build 388. >> >> Maybe I'm messing something up. >> If anyone would like to try and duplicate this: >> 1. Turn off USA and turn on Fast Facts 2. Enter a new person name. >> 3. Enter enough of a known resolved place name that the Fast Fact kicks in. >> Is the USA on the end? >> 4. select the Fast Fact offering. >> Is the USA on the end? >> 5. Go to "Places". >> Is the place name now listed twice? One resolved without the USA and >> one unresolved with the USA? >> >> Jay Thompson >> just an old genealogy nut >> too tough to crack. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: H R Worthington<rworthington@att.net> >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 3:43:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Jay, >> >> First, you can turn USA on or Off, in the Tools, Option menu. True, >> it is off >> >> For data Entry, I keep it turned ON, then turn it OFF when working on >> Charts and >> >> Reports.This keeps my data consistent and I can control the output. >> >> When you start to enter data, like "Cas" the Fast Fact will kick in >> and offer what you have used before. Currently, all Cass County, >> Indiana, USAs have been resolved to Cass County, Indiana (USA turned >> off), >> >> and Cass County, Indiana is the only entry in the PNA list. So, Cass >> County, Indiana, USA is likely to show up. >> But why, when I have the USA turned offdoes the program enter "Cass >> County, Indiana, USA" AND call it unresolved? >> >> Might the problem be that the PNA authority expects to see Cass, >> Indiana, USA as >> >> the Resolved Place Name.Then that is a program problem that needs to >> be addressed if it is being advertised >> >> that the program will recognize "County, Township, Borough, etc. >> >> You may have some Facts with the Place Name that you may not want >> still in use by someone. Have you looked at your Place Name >> Report?Yes, I am doing that now. >> But I don't want to have to spend 2 or 3 weeks every few months going >> thru it replacing the unresolved >> >> (with the USA on the end) with the resolved (without the USA). The >> correct resolved place name is already in the list. >> The unresolved place name is not in the list (until the Fast Fact >> offers it and I choose it) >> >> Russ >> >> ___________________________ >> >> >> Mailto:rworthington@att.net >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Thompson Jay<jaydarlene@sbcglobal.net> >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Sat, December 3, 2011 1:08:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] PNA frustration >> >> Thank you, BJ, >> As usual, very concise. Here is the test that I just did. Cass >> County, Indiana(no "USA) is a resolved place name (just did it last >> night). I go to a new person and start to type in the birthplace. >> C-a-s. The program suggests Cass >> >> >> County, Indiana, USA. It does not suggest Cass County, Indiana. If I >> accept Cass >> >> >> County, Indiana, USA (hoping the USA will not show), I get Cass >> County, Indiana, >> >> >> USA. If I then go to Places, I have my resolved Cass County, Indiana >> AND a new Cass County, Indiana, USA that is unresolved. 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