Just saw that the "Ability to select multiple facts in the source citation link dialog" is listed as a new function with the new .452 release. Anyone know how this works? John & Kathleen

I have really missed this one.. I used V16 to do this. Outline Descendant Report, Option to list only direct descendants between an ancestor and one descendant Mary On 12/5/2011 9:09 PM, John Donaldson wrote: > As well as a lot of fixes the service release also includes the following > new capability > > New > 1. Ability to sync accepted and rejected hints between FTM& Ancestry > 2. Option to include/exclude Ancestry media in synced trees > 3. Undocumented Facts Report > 4. Outline Descendant Report, Option to list only direct descendants > between an ancestor and one descendant > 5. Task List, Options to include/exclude task attributes and reclaim > space for items excluded > 6. Data Errors Report, Added option to list event dates that are not > valid > 7. Ability to select multiple facts in the source citation link dialog > > 3 and 4 are particularly useful and restore some more capability from FTM 16 > and earlier > > > > John D > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Mary W. Ellis http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncacgs/ http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mwellis/ http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ncalaman/ (Brick Church site)

Thanks for the heads-up John. Ali ----- Original Message ----- From: John Okerson To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 8:17 PM Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2012 build 452 now New version has been released! ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to HOPE that it will be able to allow me to link & sync my complex file. I was able to upload but not link it, but could NOT download it successfully. Nor could I upload and link. I am trying now with the new release. I have noticed some difference in memory usage, and SURE hope it can do the task assigned. John Okerson Memphis, TN 131K folks in the tree, about 710 media items 535K facts

New version has been released!

BJ, I think possibly that "Use existing source citation" may only be available once you have added a source. Your method is very different from mine. I enter the data first and then the sources, always working from the People and or Person workspace. I only use the Sources Workspace for cleanup. So if I add for example, a date of birth, I then click the Add Source icon to the right of the fact information in the Family workspace, right hand panel. After I have created the citation for that birth fact I will then link that same citation to the other facts included such as name, parents names, etc., using the "Use existing source citation". When I click that, the citation I had just created is highlighted and all I have to do is click enter for the link to be made to another fact. Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: BJ Sent: Sunday, 04 December, 2011 1:12 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Paste Link to Source Citation - Ver 2012 See comments below. BJ On 12/4/2011 8:34 AM, Barb Januscheitis wrote: > Thanks, BJ > > The reason I use #1 so much is when I'm adding a new source citation > that will be used for multiple facts and I'm going to source them > immediately. When I select Use Existing SC, the citation I'm using is > highlighted in the pop-up box and I can just click to use it. Saves > a step or two. I'll have to try it. I normally start at the Source, Manage Source work area entering the fact and making sure everything is as I want. At that point, I click Copy. I then go to People, Person and enter my facts. After entering the fact information, Click on the Source drop down arrow and select Paste Link. I guess it is a matter of personal preferences. I just opened the "Use Existing Source Citation" option but it didn't display a selected source-citation. It displayed a list of all source-citations and I must scroll the list to select the desired source-citation. I even went to the People, Fact and ensured the existing source-citation is highlighted. The dialog box still shows the complete list with nothing highlighted. > > I'm thinking the results are the same (one source with multiple facts > linked to it) if you use #1& #3. But there would be only one fact > linked to a SC if you used #2 (copy/paste). Even if you 'pasted' the > same copy to several facts. If you select "Paste Duplicate" it creates a second copy of the source-citation. I only use that option if I'm making a change to the information in the Citation Detail, Citation Text, Citation Note or Reference Note. You get the same results using the "Use Existing Source Citation" and the "Create New Copy" button. > Barb > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:18 AM, BJ<bhamilton3@cox.net> wrote: >> The only difference between item 1 versus items 2 and 3 is whether you >> have previously used the "Copy" for a source-citation. If you have >> previously copied a source-citation, then you have the options, 2 and >> 3. If you have not previously copied a source-citation, they you can >> use item 1 to select the source-citation and either "Link To Citation" >> (same as item 3) or "Create New Copy" (same as item 2). >> >> It all boils down to flexibility within the program of where you start >> the process. Personally, I find using Copy/Paste to be easier than

The developers in Provo are very well aware of key items discussed on this and other FTM lists John D -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Thompson Jay Sent: Monday, 5 December 2011 1:14 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010,2011 and 2012 BJ and John D., As we have been talking about and identified a couple of different Place name problems today, do you suppose that Ancestry is aware of either one of them? And how do we get to the people who can fix the problem? Is there someone we can send samples to? Jay Thompson just an old genealogy nut too tough to crack.

Yes it does but you are rewarded by clean place data John D -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Gurney Sent: Monday, 5 December 2011 11:34 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010,2011 and 2012 Yes, I know John, that's what I use. What takes the time is scrolling through 2,000 place names to find the ones that have been duplicated and then fixing 85 of them. On 4 December 2011 23:08, John Donaldson <johndd@iinet.net.au> wrote: > The PNA has an excellent tool to replace a place name with another. > Great for fixing duplicates and near duplicates > > Simply right click on the duplicate place name and then select replace > with another and select the name that you want to substitute > > John D

The PNA has an excellent tool to replace a place name with another. Great for fixing duplicates and near duplicates Simply right click on the duplicate place name and then select replace with another and select the name that you want to substitute John D -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Gurney Sent: Monday, 5 December 2011 6:29 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010,2011 and 2012 I've just spent two hours working through my list of Places. It's been a while since I last did it. I have just over 2000 individual place names and I found that 85 duplicates had been created. I do wish Ancestry would fix this problem. Caroline Gurney www.carosfamily.com www.cmgurney.blogspot.com

Yes and it's great - until the next time the program duplicates them and I have to repeat the process all over again (often for exactly the same places. I usually have to clean out the duplicates every couple of months. Caroline Gurney On 5 December 2011 01:04, John Donaldson <johndd@iinet.net.au> wrote: > Yes it does but you are rewarded by clean place data > > > John D > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Caroline Gurney > Sent: Monday, 5 December 2011 11:34 AM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010,2011 and > 2012 > > Yes, I know John, that's what I use. What takes the time is scrolling > through 2,000 place names to find the ones that have been duplicated and > then fixing 85 of them. > > On 4 December 2011 23:08, John Donaldson <johndd@iinet.net.au> wrote: >> The PNA has an excellent tool to replace a place name with another. >> Great for fixing duplicates and near duplicates >> >> Simply right click on the duplicate place name and then select replace >> with another and select the name that you want to substitute >> >> John D > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, John, but my problem is finding place names that the program has duplicated, not ones that need resolving. On 5 December 2011 00:43, John Okerson <johnokerson@gmail.com> wrote: >> Yes, I know John, that's what I use. What takes the time is scrolling > through 2,000 place names to find the ones that have been duplicated > and then fixing 85 of them. > > > If your problem is locating the places with flags, choosing 'Resolve All > Place Names' brings up a list of only those with the flag, and the suggested > replacement.  I do NOT use the given suggestion very often, but it is an > easier way to see the list of unresolved place names.  What such a choice > does NOT display is where you have a very similarly name place already.  The > only way *I* know of to find those is to scan through the entire list of > place names.  My list of places is down from over 30,000 to about 15,000, so > YES I have spent many entire DAYS working on the list of places.  What I am > doing with Ancestry.com's hints keeps creating new unresolved places when I > miss them.  I find that they are there by seeing the unusual place name > displayed in the list of choices and then go to Places to repair them! > > Hope that idea helps. > > John Okerson

Linda, I know the PNA does not go to street level. I used a place name containing a street name to show that the PNA does recognise the next level down (town / city), which it suggests as an alternative, but that when I then enter the place name at that level (town / city) it fails to recognise it and suggests changing to a place name at the next level down (county). Where this happens, I can find the correct town / city name by searching for it within the PNA, so why doesn't it recognise it straight away? Yes, if you want places to match with the PNA, you have to put street names and other place detail in the description field. Personally I would never do that, even if the PNA was a lot better tool for UK places than it currently is. For example, my database contains 355 separate places and addresses in London - the largest city in the world in the 19th century. I certainly don't want them all lumped together in the places section of my website, on maps or in reports. Most names in my database are not historic but the PNA still does not recognise many of them. It has never heard of Kanturk or Mitchelstown in Co Cork, Ireland. For Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales, it gives you a choice between "Merthyr Tudful, Glamorgan, Wales" or "Merthyr Tydfil, Wales", neither of which is correct. There are many more examples but I won't go on. Caroline Gurney www.carosfamily.com www.cmgurney.blogspot.com On 4 December 2011 23:11, Linda H Gutierrez <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> wrote: > Caroline, > > The PNA does not go to the street level. It is designed for city or town, > county, country, in that order. Street names and other information about a > place should be added to the description. > > I suspect like some of the other place names I have in my database, that > they are not current place names and therefore cannot be resolved. So if a > lot of your place names are Historic place names, they will not be in the > PNA. Since I am just beginning my UK research I am not familiar with place > name changes there so I have no idea if there is an additional issue at play > here. I do understand that what you are seeing seems to be an additional > issue other than Historic place names. If you click to resolve what happens?

Yes, I know John, that's what I use. What takes the time is scrolling through 2,000 place names to find the ones that have been duplicated and then fixing 85 of them. On 4 December 2011 23:08, John Donaldson <johndd@iinet.net.au> wrote: > The PNA has an excellent tool to replace a place name with another. Great > for fixing duplicates and near duplicates > > Simply right click on the duplicate place name and then select replace with > another and select the name that you want to substitute > > John D

Well- Duff Wilson at Ancestry would know who could fix it- although I don't think anyone at Ancestry can as I believe their PNA is provided by a third party. -----Original Message----- From: Thompson Jay <jaydarlene@sbcglobal.net> To: ftm-tech <ftm-tech@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 4, 2011 8:15 pm Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 and 2012 BJ and John D., As we have been talking about and identified a couple of different Place name problems today, do you suppose that Ancestry is aware of either one of them? And how do we get to the people who can fix the problem? Is there someone we can send samples to? Jay Thompson just an old genealogy nut too tough to crack. ________________________________ From: BJ <bhamilton3@cox.net> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, December 4, 2011 8:58:18 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 and 2012 The problem is the program is generating duplicate place names for no reason. Why should a user have to go through and correct a problem which should not exist if the program is working properly. On 12/4/2011 5:04 PM, John Donaldson wrote: > Yes it does but you are rewarded by clean place data > > Caroline Gurney wrote: > > Yes, I know John, that's what I use. What takes the time is scrolling > through 2,000 place names to find the ones that have been duplicated and > then fixing 85 of them. ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's a problem for me: a) Duplicates mess up the places and maps on my website: www.carosfamily.com/places.php. b) If I don't remove the duplicates within FTM they become triplicates and even quadruplicates. I have no desire to double or treble the size of my place list. c) When adding a new fact, I don't want to be presented with two or more versions of the same place to choose from. Caroline Gurney www.carosfamily.com www.cmgurney.blogspot.com On 4 December 2011 20:40, BJ <bhamilton3@cox.net> wrote: > There is no real problem with having duplicate Place Names.  The only > problem is when you add new people to the data base, you increase the > number of choices you are offered. > > BJ > > On 12/4/2011 12:03 PM, John Boyd wrote: >> I have seen a few duplicates listed separately in the Places list, but >> haven't spent any time worrying about it.  Frankly, I can't figure out that >> it makes any difference any place. >> >> John&  Kathleen >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Caroline Gurney >> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 1:29 PM >> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 and >> 2012 >> >> I've just spent two hours working through my list of Places. It's been a >> while since I last did it. I have just over 2000 individual place names and >> I found that 85 duplicates had been created. I do wish Ancestry would fix >> this problem. >> >> Caroline Gurney >> www.carosfamily.com >> www.cmgurney.blogspot.com >> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> Online Support for Family Tree Maker >> Version 16 and earlier >> http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ >> >> Version 2008 - 2011 >> http://ftm.custhelp.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4656 - Release Date: 12/04/11 >> >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, John, I hope these squeak a lot! Jay Thompson just an old genealogy nut too tough to crack. ________________________________ From: John Donaldson <johndd@iinet.net.au> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, December 4, 2011 10:45:47 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 and 2012 The developers in Provo are very well aware of key items discussed on this and other FTM lists John D -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Thompson Jay Sent: Monday, 5 December 2011 1:14 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010,2011 and 2012 BJ and John D., As we have been talking about and identified a couple of different Place name problems today, do you suppose that Ancestry is aware of either one of them? And how do we get to the people who can fix the problem? Is there someone we can send samples to? Jay Thompson just an old genealogy nut too tough to crack. ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you ever want to create a custom report showing, for example, all the people who are buried in Oswego, New York, you will not get an accurate report if you have more than one entry for that place. This is generally the rationale for maintaining a clean database of any kind. It's extremely useful for analyzing your data. Judy in Ocala. On Dec 4, 2011, at 3:03 PM, "John Boyd" <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> wrote: > I have seen a few duplicates listed separately in the Places list, but > haven't spent any time worrying about it. Frankly, I can't figure out that > it makes any difference any place. > > John & Kathleen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Caroline Gurney > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 1:29 PM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 and > 2012 > > I've just spent two hours working through my list of Places. It's been a > while since I last did it. I have just over 2000 individual place names and > I found that 85 duplicates had been created. I do wish Ancestry would fix > this problem. > > Caroline Gurney > www.carosfamily.com > www.cmgurney.blogspot.com > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've just spent two hours working through my list of Places. It's been a while since I last did it. I have just over 2000 individual place names and I found that 85 duplicates had been created. I do wish Ancestry would fix this problem. Caroline Gurney www.carosfamily.com www.cmgurney.blogspot.com On 4 December 2011 17:44, Caroline Gurney <caroline.gurney@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know if this is relevant to the current discussion but I have > had trouble with the Places function of FTM in versions 2010, 2011 and > now 2012. > > I do not find the Place Name Authority helpful because many places in > the UK are missing, or the entries are wrong, and because it does not > go down to the level of detail I require. I have therefore switched > off the option to check the PNA when entering place names. > > When I resolve place names, FTM always offers an alternative one level > higher than the one I have entered. So if I enter "Horse Street, > Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England" it suggests "Chipping > Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England" but if I enter "Chipping Sodbury, > Gloucestershire, England" it only offers "Gloucestershire, England". > As a result, all the place names I enter have to be marked as Ignore. > > Because I have the PNA check switched off, when I enter a place name, > the Fast Field only offers places already in my database. If I select > one of them, the program should add the new fact to that existing > place. Frequently, however, it creates a duplicate place. I then have > to go through the Places list manually replacing the duplicate with > the original place. This happens over and over again. Since there is > no search for duplicates function in the Places workspace, it is very > time consuming and tedious. I mentioned this problem when commenting > on an Ancestry.com blog post and quite a few others commented that > they had the same problem, so it is a fault in the software, not my > database. > > FTM 2011 introduced the option to choose to exclude a country from > Resolved place names. In both FTM 2011 and FTM 2012 I have tried > having that set to England but it doesn't work. England still shows up > in all my English place names. > > Caroline Gurney > www.carosfamily.com > www.cmgurney.blogspot.com

It shouldn't make any difference in the report if all of the Places are Oswego, New York John & Kathleen -----Original Message----- From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy in Ocala Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 6:48 PM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 and 2012 If you ever want to create a custom report showing, for example, all the people who are buried in Oswego, New York, you will not get an accurate report if you have more than one entry for that place. This is generally the rationale for maintaining a clean database of any kind. It's extremely useful for analyzing your data. Judy in Ocala. On Dec 4, 2011, at 3:03 PM, "John Boyd" <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> wrote: > I have seen a few duplicates listed separately in the Places list, but > haven't spent any time worrying about it. Frankly, I can't figure out > that it makes any difference any place. > > John & Kathleen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ftm-tech-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Caroline Gurney > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 1:29 PM > To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 > and > 2012 > > I've just spent two hours working through my list of Places. It's been > a while since I last did it. I have just over 2000 individual place > names and I found that 85 duplicates had been created. I do wish > Ancestry would fix this problem. > > Caroline Gurney > www.carosfamily.com > www.cmgurney.blogspot.com > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Online Support for Family Tree Maker > Version 16 and earlier > http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ > > Version 2008 - 2011 > http://ftm.custhelp.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Linda, In many states, but not all, the PNA will find and resolve Townships within a county, as well. The same is true of larger Cemeteries. I include the cemetery name on the place line so that I can mark the cemetery location and have an accurate count of people in my file who are buried there if I am planning a visit. I also include the township name on cemeteries for newbys and far away relatives. And I use the actual location, not the mailing address, as the mailing address is sometimes not even in the same county as the cemetery. Jay Thompson just an old genealogy nut too tough to crack. ________________________________ From: Linda H Gutierrez <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, December 4, 2011 6:11:26 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 and 2012 Caroline, The PNA does not go to the street level. It is designed for city or town, county, country, in that order. Street names and other information about a place should be added to the description. I suspect like some of the other place names I have in my database, that they are not current place names and therefore cannot be resolved. So if a lot of your place names are Historic place names, they will not be in the PNA. Since I am just beginning my UK research I am not familiar with place name changes there so I have no idea if there is an additional issue at play here. I do understand that what you are seeing seems to be an additional issue other than Historic place names. If you click to resolve what happens? Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Caroline Gurney Sent: Sunday, 04 December, 2011 11:44 AM To: ftm-tech@rootsweb.com Subject: [FTM-TECH] Several problems with Places in FTM 2010, 2011 and 2012 I don't know if this is relevant to the current discussion but I have had trouble with the Places function of FTM in versions 2010, 2011 and now 2012. I do not find the Place Name Authority helpful because many places in the UK are missing, or the entries are wrong, and because it does not go down to the level of detail I require. I have therefore switched off the option to check the PNA when entering place names. When I resolve place names, FTM always offers an alternative one level higher than the one I have entered. So if I enter "Horse Street, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England" it suggests "Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England" but if I enter "Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England" it only offers "Gloucestershire, England". As a result, all the place names I enter have to be marked as Ignore. Because I have the PNA check switched off, when I enter a place name, the Fast Field only offers places already in my database. If I select one of them, the program should add the new fact to that existing place. Frequently, however, it creates a duplicate place. I then have to go through the Places list manually replacing the duplicate with the original place. This happens over and over again. Since there is no search for duplicates function in the Places workspace, it is very time consuming and tedious. I mentioned this problem when commenting on an Ancestry.com blog post and quite a few others commented that they had the same problem, so it is a fault in the software, not my database. FTM 2011 introduced the option to choose to exclude a country from Resolved place names. In both FTM 2011 and FTM 2012 I have tried having that set to England but it doesn't work. England still shows up in all my English place names. Caroline Gurney www.carosfamily.com www.cmgurney.blogspot.com ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker Version 16 and earlier http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ Version 2008 - 2011 http://ftm.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FTM-TECH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message