Joan, On your old computer, just Copy the FTM2012 Family File onto a flash drive. Install FTM2014 on the Windows 8 Computer from the CD (NO Download Required).  Once FTM2014 is installed, do File, Open, select the Flash Drive. You should be asked to Back Up the FTM2012 File from the Flash Drive. Do so, and save that back up to your New Computer. Then FTM2014 will continue to open the FTM2012 file, but as a FTM2014 Family File and again you want that on your New computers C Drive (under My Documents\Family Tree Maker Russ   ___________________________ Mailto:[email protected] ________________________________ From: Joan Parker <[email protected]> To: H R Worthington <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] ANOTHER PROBLEM NOW Icon rather than correct Media image Hi Russ,,   I'm back.  Please see my comments in ALL CAPS, only to stand out. Again, I'm most grateful for your help. Joan

Wow, talk about turn around time. Russ, thanks for that, but it's after 2AM so I'll bid you good night and review your comments tomorrow when I'll try to remember what I did when and how. Trouble is I was trying to fix it by doing this, that and and the other. Good night, Joan On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:30 AM, H R Worthington <[email protected]>wrote: > Joan, > > Please see my comments: > > Russ > > ___________________________ > > > Mailto:[email protected] > > > ________________________________ > From: Joan Parker <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 1:13 AM > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] ANOTHER PROBLEM NOW Icon rather than correct Media > image > > > < snip > > > On my Windows 8 screen I have 2012 and 2014. As well as their automatic > backups. For some reason I opened 2012 and it showed it as 2014. OK, no > surprise there I thought. > > ==> You know, of course, that the Automatic Back Ups do NOT include your > Media Files, only the Data > > ==> HOW did you see that "it" showed 2014? Where were you looking? > > Anyway I accessed the file a few times when out of the blue up popped a > message about the file not being converted. First time I came across that > message from the time I downloaded the 2014 CD and all the times I accessed > the 2014 file without the pictures. So, I clicked on the convert file > button and Lo and Behold every picture showed up. > > ==> sounds like the "opened 2012" was a correct statement, if you were > asked to convert the file AND make a Back UP of the FTM2012 file so it > could be opened by FTM2012 and a new FTM2014 file created. > > ==> Is it possible that you opened the Automatic Back Up that second time? > > ==> Are you downloading FTM2014 or INSTALLING FTM2014 from the CD? > > Huh? ???? Nowhere does it say anything about converting the file when I > looked about converting the file and that includes the Companion Guide.. > > ==> Yes, when you open a FTM2012 file with FTM2014 is MUST BE CONVERTED. > As I said earlier, you will also be offered the option to create a FTM2012 > version of that file as well as creating a FTM2014 file. > > Moving on: I was delighted that the pictures are there. I wanted to > copy/move them to my external USB for additional safe keeping BUT!!! Now > that I've moved the file or shortcut (by copy I think) to my Toshiba > external drive, that's the only way I can access the file. Shortcut is on > the screen but will only open as long as my Toshiba is connected. If not, > the error message pops up about: drive or network unavailable . Make sure > disk is inserted, etc. > > ==> not sure what you are putting on the External Drive. Why do you want > the media files on the external drive? > > Well, I've caused myself enough problems' (a little knowledge is a > dangerous thing?) so I hesitate to insert the 2014 CD as 2012 won't open my > current file in case I had to access the file from there to transfer to > 2014.\ > > ==> WHY do you want to insert the FTM2012 or FTM2014 Installation CD if > they are already installed on our computer? > > So, FTM TECH HELP gurus and others on the list, what now? Do I dare insert > the CD or just live with accessing via the Toshiba? > > > ==> Just trying to understand what you are trying to do. > > Russ > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for the suggestions, everyone. I tried and had no luck, Even bought the Companion book and then something weird happened, at least to me. As I sort of remember it and sorry if it's a bit long: On my Windows 8 screen I have 2012 and 2014. As well as their automatic backups. For some reason I opened 2012 and it showed it as 2014. OK, no surprise there I thought. Anyway I accessed the file a few times when out of the blue up popped a message about the file not being converted. First time I came across that message from the time I downloaded the 2014 CD and all the times I accessed the 2014 file without the pictures. So, I clicked on the convert file button and Lo and Behold every picture showed up. Huh? ???? Nowhere does it say anything about converting the file when I looked about converting the file and that includes the Companion Guide.. Moving on: I was delighted that the pictures are there. I wanted to copy/move them to my external USB for additional safe keeping BUT!!! Now that I've moved the file or shortcut (by copy I think) to my Toshiba external drive, that's the only way I can access the file. Shortcut is on the screen but will only open as long as my Toshiba is connected. If not, the error message pops up about: drive or network unavailable . Make sure disk is inserted, etc. Well, I've caused myself enough problems' (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing?) so I hesitate to insert the 2014 CD as 2012 won't open my current file in case I had to access the file from there to transfer to 2014. So, FTM TECH HELP gurus and others on the list, what now? Do I dare insert the CD or just live with accessing via the Toshiba? Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Joan On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:52 AM, BJ <[email protected]> wrote: > I would suggest you > > 1. go to the Media Collection work area > 2. select one of the media items > 3. Click the right mouse button > 4. Select Refresh Thumbnail toward the bottom of the list. > > That tells FTM to get a fresh copy of the thumbnail from the file. If it > works, you will need to do it for each thumbnail. > > BJ > > On 11/20/2013 9:33 PM, Joan Parker wrote: > > Hi Lewis, > > I have the same problem, icons but no pictures. I followed your > suggestion > > and all that came up was a square with only 49 icons. I read HELP, but > it > > wasn't. I clicked here there and everywhere with no success. I even > tried > > it with the few pictures that actually showed up. No success. > > > > Any other suggestions or ideas? Thank you. > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Joan, Please see my comments: Russ   ___________________________ Mailto:[email protected] ________________________________ From: Joan Parker <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 9, 2013 1:13 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] ANOTHER PROBLEM NOW Icon rather than correct Media image < snip > On my Windows 8 screen I have 2012 and 2014. As well as their automatic backups. For some reason I opened 2012 and it showed it as 2014. OK, no surprise there I thought. ==> You know, of course, that the Automatic Back Ups do NOT include your Media Files, only the Data ==> HOW did you see that "it" showed 2014? Where were you looking? Anyway I accessed the file a few times when out of the blue up popped a message about the file not being converted.  First time I came across that message from the time I downloaded the 2014 CD and all the times I accessed the 2014 file without the pictures.  So, I clicked on the convert file button and Lo and Behold every picture showed up. ==> sounds like the "opened 2012" was a correct statement, if you  were asked to convert the file AND make a Back UP of the FTM2012 file so it could be opened by FTM2012 and a new FTM2014 file created. ==> Is it possible that you opened the Automatic Back Up that second time? ==> Are you downloading FTM2014 or INSTALLING FTM2014 from the CD? Huh?  ????  Nowhere does it say anything about converting the file when I looked about converting the file and that includes the Companion Guide.. ==> Yes, when you open a FTM2012 file with FTM2014 is MUST BE CONVERTED. As I said earlier, you will also be offered the option to create a FTM2012 version of that file as well as creating a FTM2014 file. Moving on:  I was delighted that the pictures are there.  I wanted to copy/move them to my external USB for additional safe keeping  BUT!!!  Now that I've moved the file or shortcut (by copy I think) to my Toshiba external drive, that's the only way I can access the file.  Shortcut is on the screen but will only open as long as my Toshiba is connected. If not, the error message pops up about:  drive or network unavailable . Make sure disk is inserted, etc. ==> not sure what you are putting on the External Drive. Why do you want the media files on the external drive? Well, I've caused myself enough problems' (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing?) so I hesitate to insert the 2014 CD as 2012 won't open my current file in case I had to access the file from there to transfer to 2014.\ ==> WHY do you want to insert the FTM2012 or FTM2014 Installation CD if they are already installed on our computer? So, FTM TECH HELP gurus and others on the list, what now?  Do I dare insert the CD or just live with accessing via the Toshiba? ==> Just trying to understand what you are trying to do. Russ

Although this is a relatively simple question, it is not easily answered because FTM 2008 and later offer quite a bit of flexibility. 1. FTM allows the user to link to media files in any folder. So it is possible to have links to media files in any folder you want. 2. Alternately you can also store your media files in a media folder created by FTM. This folder is automatically created as a folder subordinate to the folder which contains your data file. This relationship cannot be changed. The media folder will have the same name as your data base with the word "Media" appended. Again this cannot be changed. 3. You can change where the data base file will be stored. You can manually over ride the location and name when you create a new file. You can also change an option in Tools, Options to specify where any future data bases will be created. While FTM offers the user the option to link to media files in any folder or harddisk on the computer, I prefer to keep all of my linked media files in the FTM media folder. It makes life simpler. When you backup your data file including the media files, FTM copies all media files from any locations to the FTM media folder. So the backup automatically saves all media files in the FTM media folder. If the backup is eventually restored, all media files will be in the FTM media folder. I hope this helps answer your question a bit. BJ On 12/7/2013 2:46 PM, bluerainbow wrote: > Windows 8.1 > FTM 2010 > > How do I set a default directory for my media files? > > Thanks! > Penny > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

> How do I set a default directory for my media files? In FTM 2012 and 2014, the default directory is preset to be within the folder where your .ftm file is located. If my file were named okerson.ftm in C:\Data\FTM 2014 then the media would be in a folder call Okerson media within the same named file. That may well NOT answer your question though. If you have them elsewhere, perhaps you'd consider moving them? John Okerson Lakeland, TN

Windows 8.1 FTM 2010 How do I set a default directory for my media files? Thanks! Penny

Hi All - I used to be able to delete individuals from ancestry member trees (AMT) following the online instructions -- but for the past few weeks, after I get thru to the "are you sure?" warning message and click OK, nothing happens (i.e. the individual used to get deleted when I did this, now the person does not get deleted). Is this happening to anyone else? Thanks for any suggestions!

Penny, The installation should do that for you. c:\[user account\My Documents\Family Tree Maker\ The Media folder will be, under that as < filename > Media Russ   ___________________________ Mailto:[email protected] ________________________________ From: bluerainbow <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2013 5:46 PM Subject: [FTM-TECH] Media File Default Directory Windows 8.1 FTM 2010 How do I set a default directory for my media files? Thanks! Penny ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you have to move a lot of data into descriptions perhaps the fastest way is to use the Resolve All Place names This brings up the Resolve All Place names dialog This presents you with a list and all you have to do is to tick check boxes You can move a lot of data very quickly FTM Help Notes Resolve All Place Names Resolve All Place Names helps you correct location names that are not found in the Family Tree Maker database. You can correct the name so it is spelled correctly and in a consistent format throughout your tree file or have Family Tree Maker accept the place name as you entered it. Family Tree Maker checks each place name against its database to determine if the location is known. If the name is not found, it is listed in the Resolve All Place Names dialog box. You have a number of options for handling each place name. The following table describes the options available in the Resolve All Place Names dialog box. Options Description Unrecognized Place Name Lists each place name that is not found in the Family Tree Maker places database. A place name might not be resolved because it is misspelled, is entered in an incorrect format, the city no longer exists, or the city population is too low. Select the check box to the left of the Unrecognized Place Name to leave the status of the place name as it is. Suggested Place Name Lists the closest match that Family Tree Maker could find. To replace the Unrecognized Place Name with the Suggested Place Name throughout the tree, select the check box to the left of the Suggested Place Name. Desc. Select the Desc. check box to move the Unrecognized Place Name from the Place field to the Description field in each fact it appears. This is an easy way to move descriptions that were imported into the Place field to the Description field. Ignore Select the Ignore check box to have Family Tree Maker remove the Unrecognized Place Name from the list and ignore the spelling or format in the future. The place name will be removed from the Resolve Place Names dialog box. The place will no longer be marked as unrecognized in your tree. Other Opens the Resolve Place Name dialog box so you can edit the place name and search for closer matches. John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Wednesday, 4 December 2013 8:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Moving Place to description Fred I've been traveling and haven't see where anyone has commented on this problem. There is no way to mass move information in the place field to the description field per se. However, there are two mechanisms which may make it a bit easier to do what you want. First, in all probability those descriptions in the Place name field are marked as unresolved. If that is the case, there is a mechanism whereby you can review all of the items in the Place name and manually mark them to "move unrecognized test to Description field". You do this by 1. Going to the Place Name work area. 2. Click on the Resolve All icon in the left panel. 3. A dialog window opens where you can elect to review each unresolved name and move the "unrecognized text" to the Description field. The second mechanism, is a bit more cumbersome but offers greater flexibility. To use it you must perform it on a Fact by Fact basis. So if all or most of these place items are for a single fact, you may 1. Go to the Person work area. 2. Select a fact that has the description in the Place name field. 3. Click the right mouse button and select Fact Data Options. 4. Make a Backup of the file to protect your data. 5. Select "All Individuals". A list of all individuals using this fact will be displayed and the names will be checked. You may remove the check mark for any individuals who are not to be processed. 6. Check the box for "Move data in the selected fields". 7. A drop down list of actions is available where you may 1. Move from Place to Description. 2. Move from Description to Place. 3. Swap Place and Description. Hope this help somewhat. BJ On 11/21/2013 5:44 AM, Fred & Marie wrote: > FTM 2012 > Is there any way to mass move several Places to description? I have several hundred items in the place field and it will take days to move them to the description field one at a time. > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fred To go along with what BJ just said, when you change a place name within the PNA, it can change all iterations of that place name. In other words, if you had 250 cases of "Memphis, Shelby, Tennessee" and you wished it to be "Memphis, Shelby County, Tennessee, USA", making the change and selecting all of the cases would change them all at once! When I worked on my file, the first time I moved into FTM versions with a PNA, I spent several weeks at 12 hours a day working on the file. I found many misspellings that I could correct and many names that I could standardize. This was at a time when place names would NOT have examples like "Red Brick Church, Freehold, Monmouth County, New Jersey, USA". Instead, the Red Brick Church portion had to be in Description not Place. This allows more places to be identical but have varying descriptions. Recently this has been changed, but I prefer the previous method personally. I was able to reduce my volume of place names from about 39,XXX to 22,XXX using the PNA. I made a concerted effort to resolve ALL of the place names before adding many more folks and their place names. By doing this, I could go into the Places workspace, click on Resolve All Place Names and only have those names which had been entered since my last corrections. Truth is that I prefer to use the word County within places names within the USA and thus, some things I wish to avoid but which are acceptable to the PNA work their way into my file - Memphis, Shelby, Tennessee, USA rather than my desired Memphis, Shelby County, Tennessee, USA. John Okerson Lakeland, TN

Fred I've been traveling and haven't see where anyone has commented on this problem. There is no way to mass move information in the place field to the description field per se. However, there are two mechanisms which may make it a bit easier to do what you want. First, in all probability those descriptions in the Place name field are marked as unresolved. If that is the case, there is a mechanism whereby you can review all of the items in the Place name and manually mark them to "move unrecognized test to Description field". You do this by 1. Going to the Place Name work area. 2. Click on the Resolve All icon in the left panel. 3. A dialog window opens where you can elect to review each unresolved name and move the "unrecognized text" to the Description field. The second mechanism, is a bit more cumbersome but offers greater flexibility. To use it you must perform it on a Fact by Fact basis. So if all or most of these place items are for a single fact, you may 1. Go to the Person work area. 2. Select a fact that has the description in the Place name field. 3. Click the right mouse button and select Fact Data Options. 4. Make a Backup of the file to protect your data. 5. Select "All Individuals". A list of all individuals using this fact will be displayed and the names will be checked. You may remove the check mark for any individuals who are not to be processed. 6. Check the box for "Move data in the selected fields". 7. A drop down list of actions is available where you may 1. Move from Place to Description. 2. Move from Description to Place. 3. Swap Place and Description. Hope this help somewhat. BJ On 11/21/2013 5:44 AM, Fred & Marie wrote: > FTM 2012 > Is there any way to mass move several Places to description? I have several hundred items in the place field and it will take days to move them to the description field one at a time. >

Hi Russ No as I said previously I use PAF primarily I can easily find errors etc using the report function of PAF but this just does it in an easy to read fashion As I said, I don't think it does anything that most family tree softwares will do, but does it in an easy to read format Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/11/2013 20:30, H R Worthington wrote: > Nivard, > > > Have you looked at the Data Error Report in Family Tree Maker? > > Russ

Hi all This was posted to one of my lists and wondered if it might be of interest Once downloaded you can interrogate a gedcom and look at the results in a more defined light I am not sure it can do any more than other family tree software can but it does present it in an easy to review form It threw up a dozen errors in my database, one I was aware of (the father dies three years before a birth :-) but the others I had not noticed and were resolvable I haven't fully explored it as yet but thought it may be of interest Its free of course http://ftanalyzer.codeplex.com/ -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Thanks again BJ I have posted a link to your previous reply, so perhaps they will also see this in the thread I suspect that is the problem he is experiencing Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/11/2013 16:03, BJ wrote: > Something which just occurred to me is the way he adds the image may be impacting his observation. He may be adding the image from the media work area. I find it much easier to add media from the person work area. Select the initial person and fact. Click on the media tab and add the media from there. That way you don't have to search for the media item in the collection work area and the search for the person and the fact to establish the link. > > BJ

Nivard, Have you looked at the Data Error Report in Family Tree Maker? Russ   ___________________________ Mailto:[email protected] ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 3:10 PM Subject: [FTM-TECH] Gedcom analyser Hi all This was posted to one of my lists and wondered if it might be of interest Once downloaded you can interrogate a gedcom and look at the results in a more defined light I am not sure it can do any more than other family tree software can but it does present it in an easy to review form It threw up a dozen errors in my database, one I was aware of (the father dies three years before a birth :-) but the others I had not noticed and were resolvable I haven't fully explored it as yet but thought it may be of interest Its free of course http://ftanalyzer.codeplex.com/    -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for that explanation BJ I shall let the original poster know and see if they have any further questions Much appreciated Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/11/2013 04:38, BJ wrote: > I read the other poster's message. His statement is ambiguous in what he is trying to do. Lets see if we can clear it up a bit. We'll use the death certificate to illustrate. > > You have an image of the death certificate. You can link it several way. > 1. You can link it to one or more personal fact such as the death fact, the burial fact or literally any other fact for one person or multiple people. Once the link is established the image can be selected and viewed from that person's fact. > > 2. You can also link the image directly to the person. As above the link can be used to select and view the image. > > 3. You can link the image to a source citation which in turn can be linked to a specific fact or group of facts. There are two ways to select and view the image. First you can select the fact (death), click the source tab and click the image thumbnail displayed. Second you can select the fact and click the Media tab. Thumbnails of all media items linked to the fact will be displayed. > > As an additional note, you can go to the individual's person workarea and click the Media tab. This displays thumbnails of all images linked to the individual whether by direct link to the person, a person's facts or source citations linked to a fact. > > I hope this gives you some idea of FTM's flexability. > > BJ

Something which just occurred to me is the way he adds the image may be impacting his observation. He may be adding the image from the media work area. I find it much easier to add media from the person work area. Select the initial person and fact. Click on the media tab and add the media from there. That way you don't have to search for the media item in the collection work area and the search for the person and the fact to establish the link. BJ > On Nov 30, 2013, at 3:12 AM, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > > a

I read the other poster's message. His statement is ambiguous in what he is trying to do. Lets see if we can clear it up a bit. We'll use the death certificate to illustrate. You have an image of the death certificate. You can link it several way. 1. You can link it to one or more personal fact such as the death fact, the burial fact or literally any other fact for one person or multiple people. Once the link is established the image can be selected and viewed from that person's fact. 2. You can also link the image directly to the person. As above the link can be used to select and view the image. 3. You can link the image to a source citation which in turn can be linked to a specific fact or group of facts. There are two ways to select and view the image. First you can select the fact (death), click the source tab and click the image thumbnail displayed. Second you can select the fact and click the Media tab. Thumbnails of all media items linked to the fact will be displayed. As an additional note, you can go to the individual's person workarea and click the Media tab. This displays thumbnails of all images linked to the individual whether by direct link to the person, a person's facts or source citations linked to a fact. I hope this gives you some idea of FTM's flexability. BJ > On Nov 29, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> wrote: > > poster

Thanks again Russ I don't really want to get into the ins and outs of what I have against what you have as its unlikely to help me or the other poster To add an image so it shows for one person and has a link from that person to the image, would you need to have a source (or create one) and link the image to that source for that person? I get the impression from that post that the person using FTM is not using it correctly, would that be your view of it? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/11/2013 18:57, H R Worthington wrote: > Nivard, > > There IS a link to the Citation AND / OR the Media file associated with the Citation. In the Right Panel, select the "source" tab for the Citation and the Media Tab for the Media file, linked to the Citation. IF you have FTM2014, you will see a thumbnail on the right. > > Do know IF there is a Media file, look at the three columns of numbers on the right side of the People Workspace, Person View. The first column is the number of Citations, 2nd column, Number of Media Files, third column is Notes for the selected Fact. > > Russ