Sorry, I wasn't clear. It crashes randomly after many merges, and I've either clicked on "next" or "merge now". Operating system is Windows 7 Professional 32 bit. Frank -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Donaldson Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 crashes I am missing something here I assume that you are in the Web search workspace and wish to merge some record from online You should press merge in the lower right centre box not ENTER John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Franklin Tucker Sent: Friday, 24 January 2014 12:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 crashes I've had FTM 2014 crash about 4 times. It only happens after many merges of searches. I will press "ENTER" And immediately the screen will show a faint image of the program and get a message from Windows that FTM has stopped working, and that it will close the program. When I re-start the program, I have to compact the file, then re-load it. It seems that all I lose is what I just entered. I'm running Windows 7 32 bit version. I also have a question about relationships. First cousins married several generations back. According to FTM 1006 ver. 16, I'm my own 8th cousin, and my father is my 7th cousin once removed. In FTM 2014 this relationship doesn't show up, even if I select "show all relationships". Is there a fix for this so this relationship will show up? Have you tried running the relationship calculator between [say] you and you father? It will display multiple relationships in the drop down window John D ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 00:16:38 +1100 >From: John Maynard<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >That was then. What was a bad product [version 16] in the 90's ... FTM has become >the Mercedes Benz of the 2010's. A history of FTM's (and Ancestry's) >development may be found at: Wikipedia-Ancestry.Com If it was such a bad product, why are many of us still using it? Becase it's simple to use, no prettied up pages, no colored boxes, I can navigate in my sleep. I have added over 18,000 people over the years. I own copies of all the versions since, including for Mac, and I dislike them all. They are WAY too complicated for ME to navigate. Yes, the reports leave a little to be disired. I only use the other vesions (and Legacy) to run specific reports that I can't run in v16. YMMV And I'm running it on a Win7, 64 bit machine. Randy

Frank, For crashing: Please click on Help, then online Help Center. In the keyword search type crash and select the article for your version of Windows. Follow ALL of those steps and please right down what happens along the way. That series of articles have helped many users with CRASHING issue. Russ   ___________________________ Mailto:[email protected] ________________________________ From: Franklin Tucker <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 crashes Sorry, I wasn't clear. It crashes randomly after many merges, and I've either clicked on "next" or "merge now". Operating system is Windows 7 Professional 32 bit.

On 1/23/2014, 10:26 PM, John Donaldson wrote: > Try running is as follows from FTMM3 > > Open FTMM3 ok. > > Click on Start a new tree It is already open in a window where "Start a new tree" is at the top, as usual. But, going to File -> Import and selecting test.ged it opens a window "Let's start by importing an existing tree": File to Import: is full path name of the file I specified New tree name: is test New tree location: full path name test.ftm And a Choose button that let's me do the same thing all over again to get to the same window that lets me do the same thing all over again that lets me do the same thing over again... And a Continue button that does nothing! > > Select import an existing tree File -> New Goes to a window that says "Lets start by entering what you know" So this is even worse than selecting File -> Import > Navigate to where you have the GEDCOM Can't the way you describe. Only if I choose File -> Import You did try this on a Mac 3 yes???? And it worked???? If not, would somebody please try that? John > What happens? > > > John D > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of John Yates > Sent: Friday, 24 January 2014 1:37 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM Mac 3 ged import fails > > I exported a whole file as a GEDCOM 5.5. Then I tried to import it (also > just tried open) to a new file and it won't do it. If I drag the .ged file > over the FTM Mac 3 icon it won't accept it, but if I drag it over an old > version of Reunion it lights up as an acceptable program to open it. (I > didn't). > > Do others running FTM Mac 3 see the same behavior? > > Thanks, > John > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 08:32 AM 23-01-14 -0500, John Hope wrote: >John: >I have also installed 2014 - how do I turn on the description field? >Jack Family Tree Maker Help: To add fields to the Information panel Click People > Tree. In the Information panel, click the Customize View button. The Select Facts dialog box opens. Select the individual or shared fact you want to add to the Information panel, then click the right arrow button. The fact moves to the Selected individual fact or Selected shared fact list. Click OK. The fields are added to the Information panel. --------- I have the following fields: Birth. Death. Christening. Burial. Occupation. I've turned on Name-Place-Description for eachof these fields. I hope this helps. - John M. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Maynard Phillip Island, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed."

At 12:41 PM 23-01-14 +0000, Chris Bauman wrote: >2005 is the original, DOS-based program, right? I thought the >divider for comment vs. location was the slash /. With the comment >listed in front of it. At least, that's what I have in the v. 16 >file I still have kicking around. Hi Chris: Family Tree Maker was a product that come onto the market circa 1989. It started off in DOS, without GEDCOM support, but by the mid-90's was was made compatible for DOS and Windows (with GEDCOM support). So it's been around for quite awhile. Through corporate mergers and clever marketing, it became a popular program for its simplicity. Some would say in those days "too simplistic". There weren't many choices except to enter data in a lousy interface that provided few options. Some of the corporations (Broderbund, Mattel, Learning Company and finally Genealogy.com) had ended up with other programs including Ultimate Family Tree, which in the late 90's was regarded the Rolls Royce of Genealogy Programs. In the early 2000's, Family Origins, Generations (Reunion for Windows), Roots-Family Gathering-Ultimate Family Tree were all discontinued in favour of FTM. That was then. What was a bad product in the 90's ... FTM has become the Mercedes Benz of the 2010's. A history of FTM's (and Ancestry's) development may be found at: Wikipedia-Ancestry.Com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestry.com Scroll down to Family Tree Maker and you'll get a potted history. Under FTM Version History, press "show" for more information on past versions. I've been told that FTM-2014 for Windows and FTM-Mac 3, are nearly identical to each other ... a big plus for Mac users, who have been lagging behind the Windows editions. John in Oz. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Maynard Phillip Island, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed."

I exported a whole file as a GEDCOM 5.5. Then I tried to import it (also just tried open) to a new file and it won't do it. If I drag the .ged file over the FTM Mac 3 icon it won't accept it, but if I drag it over an old version of Reunion it lights up as an acceptable program to open it. (I didn't). Do others running FTM Mac 3 see the same behavior? Thanks, John

I've had FTM 2014 crash about 4 times. It only happens after many merges of searches. I will press "ENTER" And immediately the screen will show a faint image of the program and get a message from Windows that FTM has stopped working, and that it will close the program. When I re-start the program, I have to compact the file, then re-load it. It seems that all I lose is what I just entered. I'm running Windows 7 32 bit version. I also have a question about relationships. First cousins married several generations back. According to FTM 1006 ver. 16, I'm my own 8th cousin, and my father is my 7th cousin once removed. In FTM 2014 this relationship doesn't show up, even if I select "show all relationships". Is there a fix for this so this relationship will show up? Thanks in advance, Frank

At 10:51 PM 22-01-14 -0600, Barry S. Finkel wrote: >I have some suggestions. >1) Take the tree on ancestry and produce GEDCOM. >2) Load GEDCOM into a new FTM tree and see the count of individuals. >3) Download Family Tree Builder from Myheritage.com. It is free. > They want you to pay for a "premium" account, and they want you to > upload your tree to their web site (where one needs a premium > account to view any trees). FTB has a report that you can run that > will detect possible duplicate persons. >--Barry Finkel > Chicago Hi Barry. Thanks for the tip! ~ I didn't think about creating a GEDCOM to see what the count says. If my FTM Tree is corrupt, it is important to get it straightened out before I send up a new Tree to Ancestry. I'm not familiar with Family Tree Builder, but I'll give it a go. My main priority is to keep my data AND media safe. I know that GEDCOM can't export the media, but the Tree structure needs to be secure. BTW, the 'Find Duplicate People' wizard took about three hours. It found 4218 potential matches. More than half of them have a match score of 925 or better, which is good news. Anytime I tried to do this in FTM-2012, the program would fall over. Looks like I've got a job ahead of me ... ... But for the sake of my siblings, cousins and ancestors .... "Somebody's gotta do it!" 8-) Wish me the best! - John M. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Maynard Phillip Island, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed."

Ring Ancestry and they can sort it over the phone Australia 1-800-251-838 (toll free) Monday - Friday: 9:00 am - 8:00 pm AEST Saturday - Sunday: 9:00 am - 4:00 pm AEST John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ian Marr Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2014 5:11 PM To: ZFamily Tree Maker List Subject: [FTM-TECH] Link to Ancestry Tree Lost or Confused after Installingon new computer Unfortunately, I have had to move to a new computer. I installed FTM 2012 on the new machine and made sure I registered correctly after copying across all my data files, etc. Under the old system, I had uploaded and linked my tree to Ancestry. I now find that this link seems to be lost or at least confused. In the PLAN workspace right-hand panel under Ancestry Trees it shows Marr/Aitken/Watts - linked to FTM This is correct In centre pane, under Treesync - Access via Ancestry it shows Not uploaded and linked This tree is not linked or shared online with the option to click on Upload & Link to Ancestry My concern is that if I do take the above option, I will end up with two identical trees on Ancestry. I would like to avoid this. Any advice or suggestions? Regards, Ian MARR at 38° 24' 01.299" S by 142° 34' 11.9094" E; 11m above sea level

Unfortunately, I have had to move to a new computer. I installed FTM 2012 on the new machine and made sure I registered correctly after copying across all my data files, etc. Under the old system, I had uploaded and linked my tree to Ancestry. I now find that this link seems to be lost or at least confused. In the PLAN workspace right-hand panel under Ancestry Trees it shows Marr/Aitken/Watts - linked to FTM This is correct In centre pane, under Treesync - Access via Ancestry it shows Not uploaded and linked This tree is not linked or shared online with the option to click on Upload & Link to Ancestry My concern is that if I do take the above option, I will end up with two identical trees on Ancestry. I would like to avoid this. Any advice or suggestions? Regards, Ian MARR at 38° 24' 01.299" S by 142° 34' 11.9094" E; 11m above sea level This message can be considered to be in the public domain. The home of SW Victorian Cemetery indexes: http://www.ianmarr.net.au/ Allansford Weather (10 min updates): http://www.ianmarr.net.au/Weather/ Family Tree: http://marrwatts.tribalpages.com/ Remember, to EVERY question in life, there is MORE than ONE correct answer.

Hi John. You've given me some great ideas, but mind you my main project has 96,800+ files! Nevertheless, I'll take your suggestions on board if other options don't work. I mentioned that I was getting a mismatch on my Test Tree. As the list was much smaller (95 at people Ancestry vs. 89 people at FTM). I decided to open the Ancestry List in a window side-by-side with my FTM-Tree. That way I could manually do a number count and see which people weren't being reported, or find any duplicates. This will be the Tree I will be playing with, if I decide to take up your suggestions below. Another thing I'm doing right now is restoring my main Tree from a backup file that I did on Sunday last. This was before I installed FTM-2014 and removed FTM-2012. I compacted the new Tree twice, and am now doing a scan for duplicates. After that, I'll send it up to a new Ancestry Tree, and from there test whether the deletion/number count issue repeats itself. My flag that something was wrong was when I did a TreeSync after merging (or deleting) people. The TreeSync log showed me additions-changes-but no deletions were about to be made from FTM-2014 to my Ancestry Tree. The TreeSync handled deletions from the Ancestry Tree without a hitch. I'll keep you posted. The 'Match People' process will be taking a few hours, given the number of folks I have in the Tree. I'm trusting that the 64-bit process in FTM-2014 and Windows will speed things along. Fingers Crossed. Many Thanks and Cheers. John M. ---------------- At 02:36 PM 23-01-14 +1100, John Donaldson wrote: >"If you were sitting at my desk what would be your next step? - Many Thanks >and Cheers. John M." > >This is a fascinating thread > >I have a couple of questions >Is there in fact a difference in actual numbers notwithstanding two >different totals being advised? >Does FTM and AMT count differently and/or is there a counting bug in one or >both? >They both could be wrong! > >If there is a real difference how to find the difference? >If I had the problem I would export my FTM file index of indivuals report as >a csv file >I would download my AMT into a new FTM file and do the same thing >Then I would open both csv files into Excel in adjacent columns and do some >arranging and comparing >This should > A. determine if in fact a real difference; and > B. Identify the differences. >Note the term differences > >I don't think you can necessarily say the lower number file simply missing >people >It may be that the missing people are different people >You can probably do the same thing in Acrobat which allows you to compare >two PDF files > >And I think there is a GEDCOM COMPARE program around that compares two >GEDCOM files https://sites.google.com/site/gedcomviewcompare/ >It claims that it can >"Creation of new GEDCOM datasets comprising either the difference (i.e. the >persons missing in one of the two files) or the union (persons missing AND >persons available in both files)". > >Really doesn't matter which you use, so long as it provides and answer >Once you have identified the real differences (if there are real >differences) you can then investigate as to the reasons > >The other thing that can be useful if you have two files to compare is run >surname reports for both > >John D > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >On Behalf Of John Maynard >Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2014 2:04 PM >To: [email protected]; [email protected] >Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Problems with deletions and number count > >At 04:33 PM 22-01-14 -0500, Fred & Marie wrote: > >I am still using FTM 2012 and have 120,801 people and still adding to > >this number when I have a chance. You might try deleting your online > >tree and re-uploading the entire tree again. Fred > >Thanks for the tip, Fred, but I hesitate unlinking and sending up a new >Ancestry Tree all over again. It's a pain and every time I do this I have to >contend with 'Leaf Hints' on individuals that have been dealt with before. >I might give it a try if nothing else works ... but in the meanwhile ... > >Today I decided to check things out, using my Test Tree. I have 100 people >on this Tree. Through merges and deletions I trimmed it down to 91 people at >FTM-2014, but the online Ancestry Tree still showed 100 people. There was no >indication at the Sync Log that any deletions were made. When I trimmed down >my online Ancestry Tree the Sync Long showed the deletions. I now have an >FTM database of 90 people, but 95 people counted on the online Ancestry >Tree. I'm looking to see where the errors are. > >So what gives? - Where does the fault lie? Not in the Trees. I uninstalled >it and re-installed FTM-2014. I compacted and repacked the Test Tree. While >this speeded things up. re. TreeSync, it hasn't cured the number count >problem. > >So ... I decided to build a new Test Tree (on FTM-2014 and at Ancestry), >beginning with my family, etc. etc. and adding record hints from Ancestry. >Some duplicate people showed up, but after running the 'Duplicate People' >wizard, managed to sort them out. I'd TreeSync periodically and *Voila!* >everything is working perfectly! - Of course, this is a small tree of 52 >people. But at least it tells me something: > >(a.) The problem is in the Tree at FTM-2014, or >(b.) The problem is in the Tree at Ancestry. > >If you were sitting at my desk what would be your next step? - Many Thanks >and Cheers. John M. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Maynard Phillip Island, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed."

"If you were sitting at my desk what would be your next step? - Many Thanks and Cheers. John M." This is a fascinating thread I have a couple of questions Is there in fact a difference in actual numbers notwithstanding two different totals being advised? Does FTM and AMT count differently and/or is there a counting bug in one or both? They both could be wrong! If there is a real difference how to find the difference? If I had the problem I would export my FTM file index of indivuals report as a csv file I would download my AMT into a new FTM file and do the same thing Then I would open both csv files into Excel in adjacent columns and do some arranging and comparing This should A. determine if in fact a real difference; and B. Identify the differences. Note the term differences I don't think you can necessarily say the lower number file simply missing people It may be that the missing people are different people You can probably do the same thing in Acrobat which allows you to compare two PDF files And I think there is a GEDCOM COMPARE program around that compares two GEDCOM files https://sites.google.com/site/gedcomviewcompare/ It claims that it can "Creation of new GEDCOM datasets comprising either the difference (i.e. the persons missing in one of the two files) or the union (persons missing AND persons available in both files)". Really doesn't matter which you use, so long as it provides and answer Once you have identified the real differences (if there are real differences) you can then investigate as to the reasons The other thing that can be useful if you have two files to compare is run surname reports for both John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Maynard Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2014 2:04 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Problems with deletions and number count At 04:33 PM 22-01-14 -0500, Fred & Marie wrote: >I am still using FTM 2012 and have 120,801 people and still adding to >this number when I have a chance. You might try deleting your online >tree and re-uploading the entire tree again. Fred Thanks for the tip, Fred, but I hesitate unlinking and sending up a new Ancestry Tree all over again. It's a pain and every time I do this I have to contend with 'Leaf Hints' on individuals that have been dealt with before. I might give it a try if nothing else works ... but in the meanwhile ... Today I decided to check things out, using my Test Tree. I have 100 people on this Tree. Through merges and deletions I trimmed it down to 91 people at FTM-2014, but the online Ancestry Tree still showed 100 people. There was no indication at the Sync Log that any deletions were made. When I trimmed down my online Ancestry Tree the Sync Long showed the deletions. I now have an FTM database of 90 people, but 95 people counted on the online Ancestry Tree. I'm looking to see where the errors are. So what gives? - Where does the fault lie? Not in the Trees. I uninstalled it and re-installed FTM-2014. I compacted and repacked the Test Tree. While this speeded things up. re. TreeSync, it hasn't cured the number count problem. So ... I decided to build a new Test Tree (on FTM-2014 and at Ancestry), beginning with my family, etc. etc. and adding record hints from Ancestry. Some duplicate people showed up, but after running the 'Duplicate People' wizard, managed to sort them out. I'd TreeSync periodically and *Voila!* everything is working perfectly! - Of course, this is a small tree of 52 people. But at least it tells me something: (a.) The problem is in the Tree at FTM-2014, or (b.) The problem is in the Tree at Ancestry. If you were sitting at my desk what would be your next step? - Many Thanks and Cheers. John M.

At 04:33 PM 22-01-14 -0500, Fred & Marie wrote: >I am still using FTM 2012 and have 120,801 people and still adding >to this number when I have a chance. You might try deleting your >online tree and re-uploading the entire tree again. Fred Thanks for the tip, Fred, but I hesitate unlinking and sending up a new Ancestry Tree all over again. It's a pain and every time I do this I have to contend with 'Leaf Hints' on individuals that have been dealt with before. I might give it a try if nothing else works ... but in the meanwhile ... Today I decided to check things out, using my Test Tree. I have 100 people on this Tree. Through merges and deletions I trimmed it down to 91 people at FTM-2014, but the online Ancestry Tree still showed 100 people. There was no indication at the Sync Log that any deletions were made. When I trimmed down my online Ancestry Tree the Sync Long showed the deletions. I now have an FTM database of 90 people, but 95 people counted on the online Ancestry Tree. I'm looking to see where the errors are. So what gives? - Where does the fault lie? Not in the Trees. I uninstalled it and re-installed FTM-2014. I compacted and repacked the Test Tree. While this speeded things up. re. TreeSync, it hasn't cured the number count problem. So ... I decided to build a new Test Tree (on FTM-2014 and at Ancestry), beginning with my family, etc. etc. and adding record hints from Ancestry. Some duplicate people showed up, but after running the 'Duplicate People' wizard, managed to sort them out. I'd TreeSync periodically and *Voila!* everything is working perfectly! - Of course, this is a small tree of 52 people. But at least it tells me something: (a.) The problem is in the Tree at FTM-2014, or (b.) The problem is in the Tree at Ancestry. If you were sitting at my desk what would be your next step? - Many Thanks and Cheers. John M. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Maynard Phillip Island, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed."

I was responding to BJ's comment: "Also go through your Comment/Location field and ensure you insert a semicolon (;) between the comment and the actual place or location name. If the field only contains a comment e.g. many Occupation facts, place a semicolon after the data in the field. " I was trying to clarify which character should be used to separate comments from locations. I thought it was the (/) not the (;). I would hate for someone to go to all the work making an incorrect change to their file. But maybe I'm wrong. Christine, IBSSG Life's short . . . do genealogy first! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Maynard" <[email protected]> To: [email protected], [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:16:38 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 At 12:41 PM 23-01-14 +0000, Chris Bauman wrote: >2005 is the original, DOS-based program, right? I thought the >divider for comment vs. location was the slash /. With the comment >listed in front of it. At least, that's what I have in the v. 16 >file I still have kicking around. Hi Chris: Family Tree Maker was a product that come onto the market circa 1989. It started off in DOS, without GEDCOM support, but by the mid-90's was was made compatible for DOS and Windows (with GEDCOM support). So it's been around for quite awhile. Through corporate mergers and clever marketing, it became a popular program for its simplicity. Some would say in those days "too simplistic". There weren't many choices except to enter data in a lousy interface that provided few options. Some of the corporations (Broderbund, Mattel, Learning Company and finally Genealogy.com) had ended up with other programs including Ultimate Family Tree, which in the late 90's was regarded the Rolls Royce of Genealogy Programs. In the early 2000's, Family Origins, Generations (Reunion for Windows), Roots-Family Gathering-Ultimate Family Tree were all discontinued in favour of FTM. That was then. What was a bad product in the 90's ... FTM has become the Mercedes Benz of the 2010's. A history of FTM's (and Ancestry's) development may be found at: Wikipedia-Ancestry.Com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestry.com Scroll down to Family Tree Maker and you'll get a potted history. Under FTM Version History, press "show" for more information on past versions. I've been told that FTM-2014 for Windows and FTM-Mac 3, are nearly identical to each other ... a big plus for Mac users, who have been lagging behind the Windows editions. John in Oz. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Maynard Phillip Island, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed." ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

2005 is the original, DOS-based program, right? I thought the divider for comment vs. location was the slash /. With the comment listed in front of it. At least, that's what I have in the v. 16 file I still have kicking around. Christine, IBSSG Life's short . . . do genealogy first! ----- Original Message ----- From: "BJ" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 8:34:56 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 I agree with what John said. Something you should do before you convert your FTM 2005 file, compact it using FTM 2005. Also go through your Comment/Location field and ensure you insert a semicolon (;) between the comment and the actual place or location name. If the field only contains a comment e.g. many Occupation facts, place a semicolon after the data in the field. This will save you some aggravation once the file has been converted to FTM 2014. If you take these precautions, FTM will be able to separate the two types of data into the appropriate field. Good luck. BJ On 1/22/2014 1:39 AM, John Donaldson wrote: > It should work perfectly > > Install FTM 2014 and register it > > It should detect your FTM 2005 file and offer to convert a copy > > Of course a wise genealogist will always have a backup > > I suspect that when you get into it, you will have to do some work as a once off on Places but plenty of good tools in FTM > > I would also suggest that you turn on the Description field for at least Birth, Christening, Marriage, Death and Burial > > But it works well > > If you have a 64-bit Windows computer, FTM 2014 will install as 64-bit which significantly improves the speed , especially if you have more than 4GB of RAM ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

4GB of memory is all that 32-bit Windows can use Typically about 1 GB of memory is used by Windows leaving about 3 GB to run programs With a 32-bit system there is no point in adding more RAM about 4GB as Windows doesn't know it is there But it all changes with 64-bit Windows (64-bit) can address 100s of GB of RAM and practically increasing your RAM to 8GB is worthwhile FTM being a database really uses RAM, and with large files running in (64-bit) Windows with around 8GB of RAM makes the whole program much more lively So with only 4GB of RAM in 64-bit you are not using your 64-bit capability to its full extent. You are 'hobbling' it if you will. Lots of references in Google and this one is quite good. http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/32-bit-and-64-bit-explained.htm So you may consider also increasing the amount of RAM in your system Interesting FTM Mac 3 is still only (32-bit), but is still significantly faster than FTM 2014 (64-bit) which in turn is faster than FTM 2014 (32-bit) and of course FTM 2012 which is also (32-bit) I understand that the absence of Microsoft .Net and certain CAB files needed in Windows but not in Mac makes the huge difference? Mac uses would simply smile and say well Mac is better :-) I run an iMac with Windows 7 Pro running inside it under Parallels both (64-bit) and both with 8 GB of RAM so I am able to make some interesting comparisons on a 7,500 person file I have FTM 2012, FTM 2014 and FTM Mac 3 installed If Ancestry.com ever release FTM MacX as (64-bit) it will be faster again John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of PJK . Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2014 1:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 Thanks for the reply, Capt'n :o) My laptop has 4GB memory & is 64bit, so hopefully, it'll be fairly plain sailing. I have 2 back up copies of my tree on a memory stick & an external hard drive but just to belt-braces-zip & button it, I'll probably make another copy or two on another memory stick & external hard drive :o) Wish me luck !! :o) Pat.xxx :o) A Maid of Kent http://peajaykayspatch.blogspot.com/

At 10:09 AM 22-01-14 -0500, Derk & Lorraine Sherren wrote: >My problem is more with additions. Did you know that folks with >trees over 50,000 people are very few in the total collection of >trees on Ancestry? .... Since the AFT trees do not have the ability >to "look" for duplicates, and I am certainly not going to manually >check through the 62,000+ names for duplicates, the Associate said >just to accept the fact that the count itself is probably wrong, and >128 is very little compared to the total. > >So, John, if you apply his reasoning to your deletions, unless you >can see your un-named spouses still sitting there, there is a good >possibility that the *count* in your AFT can't keep up with the changes. > >Lorraine, in Kingston Hi Lorraine. You might be right, although I hadn't encountered this problem with FTM-2012. The count on FTM and at Ancestry was always the same. However, I rang Ancestry Support yesterday. We discovered that all my deletions had taken place on my online Tree, so we surmised that the count was correct on FTM but not at Ancestry. Curious. Many Thanks and Cheers. John M. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Maynard Phillip Island, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed."

John: I have also installed 2014 - how do I turn on the description field? Jack Message: 2 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 20:39:20 +1100 From: "John Donaldson" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It should work perfectly Install FTM 2014 and register it It should detect your FTM 2005 file and offer to convert a copy Of course a wise genealogist will always have a backup I suspect that when you get into it, you will have to do some work as a once off on Places but plenty of good tools in FTM I would also suggest that you turn on the Description field for at least Birth, Christening, Marriage, Death and Burial But it works well If you have a 64-bit Windows computer, FTM 2014 will install as 64-bit which significantly improves the speed , especially if you have more than 4GB of RAM John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of PJK . Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2014 7:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 Well, I've bitten the bullet & ordered FTM 2014. It should be here in the next few days, so gird your loins & get ready to hear anguished wails coming your way from the Kent seaside !! :o) No doubt there will be questions & cries for help, especially as I have to try to get everything from FTM 2005 into FTM 2014 :o( Pat.xxx :o) A Maid of Kent http://peajaykayspatch.blogspot.com/ ." > .

One of the beauties of the newer versions (since FTM 2008) of FTM is the flexibility of the program. Most things can be accomplished using many different ways. The easiest way to manage a fact's properties is to use "Manage Facts" feature. This is available from any work area by 1. Click on "Edit" in the Menu bar at the top of the window. 2. Look in the bottom section of the drop down list and you will see four areas which you can "Manage". Select "Manage Facts". 3. A dialog box will open listing all facts available in the FTM file. 4. As you scroll the list, the fact's parameters are displayed at the bottom of the dialog box. 5. To change one of the parameters, click the Properties button. 6. The Fact Properties dialog box will open and it will let you change the Fact Options. These options only control the fields displayed for data entry. Displaying the field or not has no effect on data previously entered in that fact's description field. 7. You may also edit the wording and sentence structure for how the information is displayed in the Genealogy Reports. Those reports are the only place this sentence is used. 8. After making any changes, Click OK. Hope that answers your question. BJ On 1/23/2014 5:32 AM, John Hope wrote: > John: > I have also installed 2014 - how do I turn on the description field?