Annie, Do YOU have specific permission to Post that image in your AMT? If the file is not online in your Ancestry Member Tree, you are OK, BUT to use the image in your AMT without Permission is not right. That is one of the reasons why we have the ability to make them private. Permission is required, as I understand it Russ ___________________________ Mailto:[email protected] ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave Since I have a couple of thousand memorials for my family up on Find  Grave and do use photos from it in my tree I use the description box to state that the "pic is courtesy of" and either use the name of the FAG volunteer or the name of the cousin who uploaded it for me.  That way the owner of the original photo is established.  I also ask the owners of photos to upload them to FAG even if they send me copies so the ownership is established publically.  Sometimes some cousins who have difficulty using computers will not be able to figure out how to upload a pic, then I will do it for them and stating on FAG that "the photo is courtesy of" and list their name; so again ownership of the original is established publically.  And again, I do the same in my tree for the same pic.  The object is to not loose the images for the extended family in spite of the fact that the owners of the originals are dying off and not all the relatives are saving them.  Plus I have hundred's of photos that were sent to me by relatives of collateral families who don't want them because they are photos of in-laws of their ancestors, not of their ancestors.  I still id them as courtesy of whomever sent them to me, since no one in my family took them even though I now own the originals.  Doing so has actually garnered me more contacts of living descendants of both families, which as international data coordinator of our family history research group has enabled me to further extend our tree and to put them in contact with others researching their part of the family tree.   Annie in Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: H R Worthington <[email protected]> To: ftm-tech <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2014 2:30 pm Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave BJ, I did a blog post on how I use Find-A-Grave. http://ftmuser.blogspot.com/2013/12/ftm2014-web-clipping-from-find-grave.html In fact, I have posted 22 articles on Find-A-Grave. http://ftmuser.blogspot.com/search/label/Find-A-Grave Don't forget that IF you download an image from the Find-A-Grave Website, that you should Mark that Media File PRIVATE, unless YOU took the photo, if you use an Ancestry Member Tree. Russ   ___________________________ Mailto:[email protected] ________________________________ From: BJ <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave The inclusion of Find A Grave matches is a welcome enhancement to the web search.  Like Annie, I had quite a number of them in my data base before but have also found some new ones.  When I find these matches, I use Web Merge to merge the information into my data base.  Unfortunately the View Online link goes to the Ancestry.com match record which is in turn a link to the Find A Grave data base. Consequently, to view the actual memorial record, the  user must click on View Online and then Click on the Ancestry.com's link. About two clicks later, the user is actually taken to the record. Here are the steps I use to make this process more efficient.  I put them here to provide some fodder for discussion to see if there are better techniques or a better methodology. Documenting a Burial Fact. 1. Click on the Ancestry.com's Find A Grave match. This opens the match     record. 2. Click Merge - Accept/modify the information to be merged.  The     reason I want this information merged is to save the link to the     Ancestry.com record.  That way I never have to search for it again. 3. After the merge, I go to the Source record and make any changes to     the source-citation. 4. I use the View Online link to open the Ancestry.com record and I use     its link to go to the Find A Grave memorial record because I want to     capture and store the actual URL address in the new Web URL field. 5. The problem is this address is  very long and complicated.  So I     wanted some way to shorten the URL. 6. I could use TinyURL but decided on another approach. I copy the     memorial number to the clipboard.  I then use the Find A Grave     search window to perform a new search using the memorial ID.  This     provides the shortest and most efficient address possible.  So I     copy the new address and paste it into the Source-citation Web URL     field.  This provides me with two ways to get to the burial record     in the future. I would appreciate any additional ideas or techniques anyone are using. BJ On 1/26/2014 5:47 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Been able to do that for a while now.  Unfortunately most of them were ones I made, but have found a few new ones so I now know where they are buried when I didn't before. > > Annie in Minnesota > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeanne Stanis <[email protected]> > To: FTM-tech List <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 3:36 pm > Subject: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave > > > Whoa!  I just was able to merge a "find a grave" with a person in my file!!! > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > >  > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, ancestry purchased it but left previous management in place. -----Original Message----- From: Nancy <[email protected]> To: ftm-tech <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Jan 26, 2014 1:10 pm Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave Is this for FTM 2014 only? Nancy On 1/26/2014 10:59 AM, BJ wrote: > The inclusion of Find A Grave matches is a welcome enhancement to the > web search. ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this for FTM 2014 only? Nancy On 1/26/2014 10:59 AM, BJ wrote: > The inclusion of Find A Grave matches is a welcome enhancement to the > web search.

I think you are asking whether the Find A Grave matching is available only in FTM 2014? The answer is no. The Find A Grave matching appeared about 8 months ago. I was using FTM 2012 at that time. It seems that Ancestry.com has reached an agreement with Find A Grave to be able to search the Find A Grave data base and generate a link to any names which are matched. It is similar to their links to RootsWeb's obituary data base. Hope that answers your question. BJ On 1/26/2014 11:04 AM, Nancy wrote: > Is this for FTM 2014 only? > > Nancy > > On 1/26/2014 10:59 AM, BJ wrote: >> The inclusion of Find A Grave matches is a welcome enhancement to the web search.

BJ, I did a blog post on how I use Find-A-Grave. http://ftmuser.blogspot.com/2013/12/ftm2014-web-clipping-from-find-grave.html In fact, I have posted 22 articles on Find-A-Grave. http://ftmuser.blogspot.com/search/label/Find-A-Grave Don't forget that IF you download an image from the Find-A-Grave Website, that you should Mark that Media File PRIVATE, unless YOU took the photo, if you use an Ancestry Member Tree. Russ   ___________________________ Mailto:[email protected] ________________________________ From: BJ <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave The inclusion of Find A Grave matches is a welcome enhancement to the web search.  Like Annie, I had quite a number of them in my data base before but have also found some new ones.  When I find these matches, I use Web Merge to merge the information into my data base.  Unfortunately the View Online link goes to the Ancestry.com match record which is in turn a link to the Find A Grave data base. Consequently, to view the actual memorial record, the  user must click on View Online and then Click on the Ancestry.com's link. About two clicks later, the user is actually taken to the record. Here are the steps I use to make this process more efficient.  I put them here to provide some fodder for discussion to see if there are better techniques or a better methodology. Documenting a Burial Fact. 1. Click on the Ancestry.com's Find A Grave match. This opens the match     record. 2. Click Merge - Accept/modify the information to be merged.  The     reason I want this information merged is to save the link to the     Ancestry.com record.  That way I never have to search for it again. 3. After the merge, I go to the Source record and make any changes to     the source-citation. 4. I use the View Online link to open the Ancestry.com record and I use     its link to go to the Find A Grave memorial record because I want to     capture and store the actual URL address in the new Web URL field. 5. The problem is this address is  very long and complicated.  So I     wanted some way to shorten the URL. 6. I could use TinyURL but decided on another approach. I copy the     memorial number to the clipboard.  I then use the Find A Grave     search window to perform a new search using the memorial ID.  This     provides the shortest and most efficient address possible.  So I     copy the new address and paste it into the Source-citation Web URL     field.  This provides me with two ways to get to the burial record     in the future. I would appreciate any additional ideas or techniques anyone are using. BJ On 1/26/2014 5:47 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Been able to do that for a while now.  Unfortunately most of them were ones I made, but have found a few new ones so I now know where they are buried when I didn't before. > > Annie in Minnesota > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeanne Stanis <[email protected]> > To: FTM-tech List <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 3:36 pm > Subject: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave > > > Whoa!  I just was able to merge a "find a grave" with a person in my file!!! > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > >  > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The inclusion of Find A Grave matches is a welcome enhancement to the web search. Like Annie, I had quite a number of them in my data base before but have also found some new ones. When I find these matches, I use Web Merge to merge the information into my data base. Unfortunately the View Online link goes to the Ancestry.com match record which is in turn a link to the Find A Grave data base. Consequently, to view the actual memorial record, the user must click on View Online and then Click on the Ancestry.com's link. About two clicks later, the user is actually taken to the record. Here are the steps I use to make this process more efficient. I put them here to provide some fodder for discussion to see if there are better techniques or a better methodology. Documenting a Burial Fact. 1. Click on the Ancestry.com's Find A Grave match. This opens the match record. 2. Click Merge - Accept/modify the information to be merged. The reason I want this information merged is to save the link to the Ancestry.com record. That way I never have to search for it again. 3. After the merge, I go to the Source record and make any changes to the source-citation. 4. I use the View Online link to open the Ancestry.com record and I use its link to go to the Find A Grave memorial record because I want to capture and store the actual URL address in the new Web URL field. 5. The problem is this address is very long and complicated. So I wanted some way to shorten the URL. 6. I could use TinyURL but decided on another approach. I copy the memorial number to the clipboard. I then use the Find A Grave search window to perform a new search using the memorial ID. This provides the shortest and most efficient address possible. So I copy the new address and paste it into the Source-citation Web URL field. This provides me with two ways to get to the burial record in the future. I would appreciate any additional ideas or techniques anyone are using. BJ On 1/26/2014 5:47 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Been able to do that for a while now. Unfortunately most of them were ones I made, but have found a few new ones so I now know where they are buried when I didn't before. > > Annie in Minnesota > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeanne Stanis <[email protected]> > To: FTM-tech List <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 3:36 pm > Subject: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave > > > Whoa! I just was able to merge a "find a grave" with a person in my file!!! > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Been able to do that for a while now. Unfortunately most of them were ones I made, but have found a few new ones so I now know where they are buried when I didn't before. Annie in Minnesota -----Original Message----- From: Jeanne Stanis <[email protected]> To: FTM-tech List <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Jan 25, 2014 3:36 pm Subject: [FTM-TECH] Find A Grave Whoa! I just was able to merge a "find a grave" with a person in my file!!! ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 06:15 AM 24-01-14 -0500, Randy wrote: > >From: John Maynard<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> > >That was then. What was a bad product in the 90's ... FTM has become > >the Mercedes Benz of the 2010's. A history of FTM's (and Ancestry's) > >development may be found at: Wikipedia-Ancestry.Com > >RANDY: >If it was such a bad product, why are many of us still using it? >Becase it's simple to use, >no prettied up pages, no colored boxes, I can navigate in my sleep. >I have added over 18,000 >people over the years. I own copies of all the versions since, >including for Mac, and I >dislike them all. They are WAY too complicated for ME to navigate. >Yes, the reports leave >a little to be disired. I only use the other vesions (and Legacy) to >run specific reports >that I can't run in v16. YMMV And I'm running it on a Win7, 64 bit machine. Hi Randy. I was referring to Family Tree Maker in the 1990's, where there were far superior programs. FTM Ver. 16 came out in September 2006, and probably was a good product for its time. However, I've been very impressed with FTM-2012 and FTM-2014. In my book, these releases are exceptional. FTM-2014 will become even better with further patch updates. My two netcoins worth. 8-) John M. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Maynard Phillip Island, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed."

After reading the issues on the Forums with FTMM3 and the latest MAC OS (Mavericks), I completely agree with John’s comment. I am having a lot of problems with this combination and FTMM3 absolutely does not function as advertised when using MAVERICKS. Ken. On Jan 25, 2014, at 4:36 PM, John Yates <[email protected]> wrote: > Here we go, it is a continuing problem as we speak: > > http://ancestryforums.custhelp.com/posts/eb962511af?page=1 > > If you run Mavericks, DO NOT UPGRADE TO FTM MAC3! > > John > > On 1/24/2014, 1:53 AM, John Yates wrote: >> On 1/23/2014, 10:26 PM, John Donaldson wrote: >>> Try running is as follows from FTMM3 >>> >>> Open FTMM3 >> >> ok. >> >>> >>> Click on Start a new tree >>

Here we go, it is a continuing problem as we speak: http://ancestryforums.custhelp.com/posts/eb962511af?page=1 If you run Mavericks, DO NOT UPGRADE TO FTM MAC3! John On 1/24/2014, 1:53 AM, John Yates wrote: > On 1/23/2014, 10:26 PM, John Donaldson wrote: >> Try running is as follows from FTMM3 >> >> Open FTMM3 > > ok. > >> >> Click on Start a new tree > > It is already open in a window where "Start a new tree" is at the top, > as usual. > > But, going to File -> Import and selecting test.ged it opens a > window "Let's start by importing an existing tree": > > File to Import: is full path name of the file I specified > New tree name: is test > New tree location: full path name test.ftm > And a Choose button that let's me do the same thing all over again > to get to the same window that lets me do the same thing all over > again that lets me do the same thing over again... > > And a Continue button that does nothing! > >> >> Select import an existing tree > > File -> New > Goes to a window that says "Lets start by entering what you know" > > So this is even worse than selecting File -> Import > >> Navigate to where you have the GEDCOM > > Can't the way you describe. Only if I choose File -> Import > > You did try this on a Mac 3 yes???? And it worked???? > > If not, would somebody please try that? > > John > >> What happens? >> >> >> John D >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of John Yates >> Sent: Friday, 24 January 2014 1:37 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM Mac 3 ged import fails >> >> I exported a whole file as a GEDCOM 5.5. Then I tried to import it (also >> just tried open) to a new file and it won't do it. If I drag the .ged file >> over the FTM Mac 3 icon it won't accept it, but if I drag it over an old >> version of Reunion it lights up as an acceptable program to open it. (I >> didn't). >> >> Do others running FTM Mac 3 see the same behavior? >> >> Thanks, >> John >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> Version 2008 - 2012 >> http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> Version 2008 - 2012 >> http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Whoa!  I just was able to merge a "find a grave" with a person in my file!!!

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Well that is the most you can use Follow Russ's suggestion on crashes Also as a test Create a single person file Meger you main file into it Now try to merge John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Franklin Tucker Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014 2:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 crashes 4 GB minus what is used for audio & video. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Donaldson Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 6:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 crashes How much RAM do you have? John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Franklin Tucker Sent: Friday, 24 January 2014 10:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 crashes Sorry, I wasn't clear. It crashes randomly after many merges, and I've either clicked on "next" or "merge now". Operating system is Windows 7 Professional 32 bit. Frank ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

How much RAM do you have? John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Franklin Tucker Sent: Friday, 24 January 2014 10:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 crashes Sorry, I wasn't clear. It crashes randomly after many merges, and I've either clicked on "next" or "merge now". Operating system is Windows 7 Professional 32 bit. Frank

Try running is as follows from FTMM3 Open FTMM3 Click on Start a new tree Select import an existing tree Navigate to where you have the GEDCOM What happens? John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Yates Sent: Friday, 24 January 2014 1:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM Mac 3 ged import fails I exported a whole file as a GEDCOM 5.5. Then I tried to import it (also just tried open) to a new file and it won't do it. If I drag the .ged file over the FTM Mac 3 icon it won't accept it, but if I drag it over an old version of Reunion it lights up as an acceptable program to open it. (I didn't). Do others running FTM Mac 3 see the same behavior? Thanks, John ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am missing something here I assume that you are in the Web search workspace and wish to merge some record from online You should press merge in the lower right centre box not ENTER John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Franklin Tucker Sent: Friday, 24 January 2014 12:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 crashes I've had FTM 2014 crash about 4 times. It only happens after many merges of searches. I will press "ENTER" And immediately the screen will show a faint image of the program and get a message from Windows that FTM has stopped working, and that it will close the program. When I re-start the program, I have to compact the file, then re-load it. It seems that all I lose is what I just entered. I'm running Windows 7 32 bit version. I also have a question about relationships. First cousins married several generations back. According to FTM 1006 ver. 16, I'm my own 8th cousin, and my father is my 7th cousin once removed. In FTM 2014 this relationship doesn't show up, even if I select "show all relationships". Is there a fix for this so this relationship will show up? Have you tried running the relationship calculator between [say] you and you father? It will display multiple relationships in the drop down window John D

4 GB minus what is used for audio & video. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Donaldson Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 6:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 crashes How much RAM do you have? John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Franklin Tucker Sent: Friday, 24 January 2014 10:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 crashes Sorry, I wasn't clear. It crashes randomly after many merges, and I've either clicked on "next" or "merge now". Operating system is Windows 7 Professional 32 bit. Frank ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

John Go the People>Person View Select the Fact that you want to turn on the description field [say] Birth In the RH editing box click on Options Select Fact Properties Tick the radio button for Date/Place /Description Repeat for any other Facts, e.g. C, M, .D, B, etc Note you only have to do this once in any file for a particular Fact So turning on the description field for [say] a birth Fact in a file also turns it on for every other birth Fact and any new ones added Couple with resolving Place names and fixing improperly imported data from FTM 16 or earlier, (see a post I have just sent about the slash delimiter) the description field in invaluable John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Hope Sent: Friday, 24 January 2014 12:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FTM-TECH] FTM2014 John: I have also installed 2014 - how do I turn on the description field? Jack

John M wrote I've been told that FTM-2014 for Windows and FTM-Mac 3, are nearly identical to each other ... a big plus for Mac users, who have been lagging behind the Windows editions. John A review of FTM Mac 3 was written up in the February GUM newsletter It is nearly parity in features with FTM 2014, and despite still being only 32-bit, is still significantly faster than FTM 2014 (64-bit) on the same computer The lack of resource hungry .NET and certain CAB files in the Windows version not required in the Mac version is responsible for this The other great thing is now that database used in both versions is the same, so FTM 2014 can open a file created on FTMM3 and vice versa Bye- bye the arcane File Migration Utility (cheers) Also the new common database seems to be even more robust that the ones used previously All good news John D

Yes, FTM 2005/06 and 16 were all based on the original 16 bit DOS code traced back to the original FTM 2 The slash delimiter used to come up when people converted to FTM 2008 which was a totally ne rewrite and included a description field We used to get a lot of queries at the time on this list from people importing FTM 16 or earlier files into FTM 2008 where they never used the slash delimiter in these early versions (which was required when maps was introduced to FTM in version 7.0 As time and versions has moved on these queries are becoming less frequent, but occasionally it still comes up I wrote some notes at the time "To answer your question it is necessary to explain a little FTM history The Slash Delimiter "/" In version 7 through to version 11, you would have noticed in More About facts there are three fields. The event field which can be from the drop down list (from version 5 on) the date and the third, comment/location field. Note the slash separator. This now has a lot more significance. Up until version 7 I had ignored the slash believing it was only there as a grammatical delimiter between the two words similar to picture/object. As they say in the song, "It ain't necessarily so" In fact the slash now does mean something to Family Tree Maker. The version 7 manual notes it. The slash in fact does what the heading says you put in a comment then a location. Consider. This has persisted from version 7 through to version 16 but has been mainly ignored by users as most do not use the maps feature in FTM 7 through to FTM 16. The More about facts disappeared in FTM 2005 but the need for the slash remained. People who started FTM 2005/06/16 may not have been aware of its significance. If you had someone as, "buried Brighton Cemetery, Melbourne, Victoria", Family Tree Maker would interpret this as a comment. If on the other hand you had "buried Brighton Cemetery/Melbourne, Victoria", Family Tree Maker would take the first bit as a comment and the second bit after the slash as a location and use it in a map! Note the information in this example is exactly the same and will appear in reports the same but Family Tree Maker now can also use the last bit as a location and in particular for maps. The last bit is the geographic heading the first bit the comment about that person appropriate to that heading. Now when you run a map report the event that you have noted will appear in the report under Melbourne for that person. If you had left it the other way Family Tree Maker may not have interpreted it correctly and excluded it. More on Slashes If a slash "/" appears as the last character in the comment/location field, the comment will be ignored. This allows you to record the comment, but not worry about it being displayed in your map. For example, if you were to type: "I don't want this fact in my map, even though I know it took place in San Francisco, CA/" Family Tree Maker would detect the final slash character and the fact would NOT be displayed. If you have more than one slash in the comment field such as "buried at Brighton Cemetery/Melbourne/Victoria", Family Tree Maker would only use the Victoria bit as the location field. (Note the final comma in these examples are for clarity in this article and would not normally appear at the end of a comment/location.) So the slash is now a critical tool in how your data are displayed in maps! Early versions of FTM used to have some information on the subject but it has since disappeared from Help in FTM 16 Now when FTM 2008 was developed the developers decided to correct the "hack" in FTM and added the description field with is the correct place for the comment. But unless you entered your Facts and locations correctly in FTM up to version 16, i.e. Fact/ or Comment/Location when you import your information into FTM 2008 or above, you get Facts and locations mixed in the Places list You can fix these as a once off exercise using the Resolve Place Name Tool in FTM Places or individually right click on them and resolve them. It takes awhile but it is worth it as you have a proper field for descriptions and very consistent Places It took me about a weekend to fix my database with about 6,000 names and I had used the slash delimiter since version 7 for Places but not Facts. It is not worth trying to fix them in FTM 16 before importation, the tools in FTM 2008/09/10/11/12/14 Mac/2/3 are much better. So a once off but worthwhile chore" So I guess there are still some users of FTM 16 or earlier who are still converting their data and probably have never thought about the slash Fortunately FTM 2008 and above including FTM Mac/2/3 all have a proper description field available for all Facts and the data are now handled correctly Couple this with the improve hierarchitized places, you can, with a bit of effort, get things very tidy and arranged. This of course in turn makes the custom report and the FTM filter work perfectly GI GO still applies John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Bauman Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2014 11:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 2005 is the original, DOS-based program, right? I thought the divider for comment vs. location was the slash /. With the comment listed in front of it. At least, that's what I have in the v. 16 file I still have kicking around.