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    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Find-A-Grave and FTM 2011
    2. BJ
    3. This may not be as simple as you think. The Web Clipping will copy images; however, there are a couple of qualifiers. 1. It only works when the image is displayed within the internal browser of the Web Search window. Unfortunately, when you click on a match to FAG, FTM doesn't use the internal browser but rather opens the site in an external browser. You can get around this by copying the URL from the external browser and pasting it into the Address line of the Web Search work area. Then you need to click the right mouse button to select the Save Image As option. 2. The web clipping feature normally merges the selected information into the data base. This does not happen with the images. They are stored in the folder you specify but you must then use the Add Media item to create the thumbnail and the link to the media file. BJ On 2/2/2014 11:46 AM, Judy in Ocala wrote: > I don't remember in which version it was introduced, but the later versions of FTM have a feature called web clipping. It will do what you want. > > Go to Help>Companion Guide and search for web clipping. If your version supports this feature, you'll find the instructions there. It is very cool. > > But be careful. Find a Grave photos are copyrighted by the photographer. Be sure you get permission to use those photos. > > > > Nancy wrote: > > Is there a way to copy a picture from FAG to FTM 2011? If not, does > FTM have a fairly easy way to do this? I might upgrade if this is the > case.

    02/02/2014 06:45:42
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Find-A-Grave and FTM 2011
    2. BJ
    3. I'm with you, I don't understand the concern. FAG is being run by its own management and there don't seem to be any policy changes to the contrary. The founder of FAG is still in charge except he now has time and funds to make long awaited enhancements to the site. I don't understand someone taking down memorials. If you object to the policies, simply transfer the memorial to someone. Why deprive someone of being able to find their relatives? BJ On 2/2/2014 12:37 PM, Judy in Ocala wrote: > Ancestry may have bought FAG , but FAG is still free; and you don't NEED Ancestry to access it. I don't understand what all the fuss is about. FAG is the best of all cemetery databases. Don't throw out the baby with the bath! > > Rosemary Jones wrote: > > Those most adamant about the Ancestry buy-out have removed their memorials > from FindAGrave. Some of mine have been removed.

    02/02/2014 06:24:30
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Find-A-Grave and FTM 2011
    2. Joanne Hintz
    3. Nancy, I don't think there's a direct/instant attach function. Click on the photo when on the FAG page so you get the larger version, then right-click and "save image" to your computer. Copy it to FTM from there as you do any other photo. Check the profile of the person who posted the photo. Most seem to be giving permission up front for people to copy for their own use. There are a couple who are adamant that they don't want to see their photos on Ancestry. I wonder how these individuals handle the Ancestry purchase. (!) Joanne On 2/2/2014 11:02 AM, Nancy wrote: > Is there a way to copy a picture from FAG to FTM 2011? If not, does > FTM have a fairly easy way to do this? I might upgrade if this is the > case. > > Nancy > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    02/02/2014 05:54:25
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Find-A-Grave and FTM 2011
    2. BJ
    3. I believe you are asking whether FTM provides an internal method for copying a photo from Find a Grave. The answer is no. However it is easily done as I do it all the time. Here is how I do it: 1. Go to the Find A Grave web page with the photo. 2. Click on the photo to open a larger copy. 3. Click the right mouse button and select Save Image As 4. A Windows Explorer window opens. 5. Browse to the folder where you want to save the image. I always save it into my FTM data base Media folder. This is the default folder containing all of you FTM media files. 6. Enter the name you want used. I normally name mine something like this, "Tombstone - Smith, John W 1900". The number is the year of death. 7. After the file is saved, return to FTM and to where you want to link to the media file. I always create a source-citation and link the photo to that source-citation. So go to the Sources work area. 8. Select the Source-citation. 9. Click on the Media Tab and select Add New. 10. Select the media file by starting to type the name e.g. "Tombstone -" A list will drop down. Keep typing until you see the file name. 11. Highlight the file name and click Open. 12. Assign any categories you want. 13. The photo is not linked to the source-citation which I have linked to the Burial fact. Although it seems like a lot of steps, it is really quite easy. I do a number of other activities to ensure I give credit to the photographer and to ensure I can find the photo such as including: * the Find a Grave Memorial URL into the new Source-citation URL address field. * the Memorial # in the source-citation Citation Text field. * information in the Media Description field to identify the subject, the name and place of the cemetery, credit to the photographer and the URL of the photo at Find A Grave. I hope that helps you with your decision. BJ On 2/2/2014 9:02 AM, Nancy wrote: > Is there a way to copy a picture from FAG to FTM 2011? If not, does > FTM have a fairly easy way to do this? I might upgrade if this is the > case.

    02/02/2014 05:49:31
    1. [FTM-TECH] Find-A-Grave and FTM 2011
    2. Nancy
    3. Is there a way to copy a picture from FAG to FTM 2011? If not, does FTM have a fairly easy way to do this? I might upgrade if this is the case. Nancy

    02/02/2014 04:02:40
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Changing spouse count
    2. BJ
    3. First make a complete backup of your file so if you get unwanted results, you can revert to the original state. As I understand your problem, you have three individuals with multiple spouses when actually, they each have only one spouse. I.e. * Individual One has three spouses, all three are the same spouse but with different spellings of the names. For example: o Jane Smith o Jane Smithe o Jane Smyth If this is the case, you probably have three individual records - one for each of the Jane S. In this case, you need to examine each of the relationships to determine whether there are children involved. Are there different children for each relationship? The easiest way is to use Merge two specific individuals but after the merge, you want to review the children to ensure you didn't accidentally introduce duplicates of the children records. * You also have two individuals with spouse-less relationships. This is normally caused because you have children attached to one spouse but not attached to the other. In FTM 2014, I think the easiest way of handling this is to 1. Go to the People Tree work area for the person with multiple spouses. 2. Click on the spouse link in the Family panel and select the "No spouse entered" link 3. The display changes to show the individual with the child/ren but not spouse. 4. Click on the area that says "Add spouse" and input a name. 5. Select the new name and use "Merge Two Specific Individuals" to merge the new name with the existing spouse. This will link the children to the desired relationship and reduce the spousal count. I hope this helps. BJ On 1/31/2014 10:37 AM, Franklin Tucker wrote: > Clicking on spouse box shows the one spouse, and the other 2 show (no spouse > entered). > > Rosemary wrote: > > Are these 3 spouse names in the index as unique persons? If so, you have the > same person in the database 3 times and will have to merge them. > > If they're not in the index 3 times then does the person have 3 different > marriage facts, once for each different name of the spouse? In this case you > will need to edit that person to have only one marriage fact. > > There may be other scenarios that I haven't thought of. > > Franklin Tucker wrote: >> Some people in my tree show 3 spouses where in actuality there is only one. >> Sometimes there are 3 names listed for spouse, but it is the same >> person with different spellings. >> >> How do I change the count to make it correct? Couldn't find anything >> in the help file.

    01/31/2014 09:47:54
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Changing spouse count
    2. Franklin Tucker
    3. Clicking on spouse box shows the one spouse, and the other 2 show (no spouse entered). -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Earl Bonneau Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 12:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Changing spouse count Would you be referring to the "Also Known As" fact to indentify the various spellings of the person? That should show just one spouse after doing what Rosemary said. Earl Subject: [FTM-TECH] Changing spouse count Some people in my tree show 3 spouses where in actuality there is only one. Sometimes there are 3 names listed for spouse, but it is the same person with different spellings. How do I change the count to make it correct? Couldn't find anything in the help file. Frank ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/31/2014 06:38:20
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Changing spouse count
    2. Franklin Tucker
    3. Clicking on spouse box shows the one spouse, and the other 2 show (no spouse entered). -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rosemary Jones Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 11:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Changing spouse count Frank, Are these 3 spouse names in the index as unique persons? If so, you have the same person in the database 3 times and will have to merge them. If they're not in the index 3 times then does the person have 3 different marriage facts, once for each different name of the spouse? In this case you will need to edit that person to have only one marriage fact. There may be other scenarios that I haven't thought of. Rosemary On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Franklin Tucker <[email protected]> wrote: > Some people in my tree show 3 spouses where in actuality there is only one. > Sometimes there are 3 names listed for spouse, but it is the same > person with different spellings. > > How do I change the count to make it correct? Couldn't find anything > in the help file. > > Frank > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/31/2014 06:37:27
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Changing spouse count
    2. Earl Bonneau
    3. Would you be referring to the "Also Known As" fact to indentify the various spellings of the person? That should show just one spouse after doing what Rosemary said. Earl Subject: [FTM-TECH] Changing spouse count Some people in my tree show 3 spouses where in actuality there is only one. Sometimes there are 3 names listed for spouse, but it is the same person with different spellings. How do I change the count to make it correct? Couldn't find anything in the help file. Frank

    01/31/2014 04:27:20
    1. [FTM-TECH] Changing spouse count
    2. Franklin Tucker
    3. Some people in my tree show 3 spouses where in actuality there is only one. Sometimes there are 3 names listed for spouse, but it is the same person with different spellings. How do I change the count to make it correct? Couldn't find anything in the help file. Frank

    01/31/2014 03:49:31
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Changing spouse count
    2. John Okerson
    3. > Some people in my tree show 3 spouses where in actuality there is only > one. Sometimes there are 3 names listed for spouse, but it is the same person with different spellings. > How do I change the count to make it correct? Couldn't find anything in > the help file. You have merely added additional spouses when there is really only one. Correct the spellings to merge the correct one, and if the birthdate is exactly what you good one is, then FTM should prompt you to merge them automatically. Otherwise merge 2 people manually - see pages 263-265 in the companion guide.

    01/31/2014 03:34:07
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Changing spouse count
    2. Rosemary Jones
    3. Frank, Are these 3 spouse names in the index as unique persons? If so, you have the same person in the database 3 times and will have to merge them. If they're not in the index 3 times then does the person have 3 different marriage facts, once for each different name of the spouse? In this case you will need to edit that person to have only one marriage fact. There may be other scenarios that I haven't thought of. Rosemary On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Franklin Tucker <[email protected]> wrote: > Some people in my tree show 3 spouses where in actuality there is only one. > Sometimes there are 3 names listed for spouse, but it is the same person > with different spellings. > > How do I change the count to make it correct? Couldn't find anything in the > help file. > > Frank > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/31/2014 03:33:45
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Ignore A Hint
    2. Rosemary Jones
    3. I'm assuming you refresh the screen. I've found that hint removal is slow when the system is very busy. Rosemary On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Drew DUBLER <[email protected]> wrote: > I find it extremely annoying to keep clicking 'IGNORE HINT' only to have > the hint reappear the next time I go to Ancestry.com. > > Am I doing something wrong? Is there a method to keep ignored hints out of > see all hints list. Is there an all hints except ignored list of hints? > > > Drew > Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY > > O|||||||O > Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz > Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley > Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, & LENT, LYNT, van LENT > > Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/30/2014 02:29:53
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Ignore A Hint
    2. H R Worthington
    3. Drew, WHERE are you Ignoring the hint? Please remember that Ignoring a hint in Family Tree Maker would NOT "tell" your Ancestry Member Tree to also ignore that hint. Russ   ___________________________ Mailto:[email protected] ________________________________ From: Drew DUBLER <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 10:19 PM Subject: [FTM-TECH] Ignore A Hint I find it extremely annoying to keep clicking 'IGNORE HINT' only to have the hint reappear the next time I go to Ancestry.com. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a method to keep ignored hints out of see all hints list. Is there an all hints except ignored list of hints?   Drew Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY O|||||||O Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, & LENT, LYNT, van LENT Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/30/2014 01:07:18
    1. [FTM-TECH] Ignore A Hint
    2. Drew DUBLER
    3. I find it extremely annoying to keep clicking 'IGNORE HINT' only to have the hint reappear the next time I go to Ancestry.com. Am I doing something wrong? Is there a method to keep ignored hints out of see all hints list. Is there an all hints except ignored list of hints?   Drew Cold Spring, Putnam Co., NY O|||||||O Modeling the New York Central in N Scale and Trainz Backyard Birding & Gardening in the New York Hudson Valley Genealogy HERLIHY, GOULDING, & LENT, LYNT, van LENT Homepage: http://drucifer.net/index.html

    01/30/2014 12:19:02
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 issues
    2. I can replicate this exactly as you describe!! Linda now in California (was Costa Rica) Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Derk & Lorraine Sherren Sent: Wednesday, 29 January, 2014 8:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 issues Actually there is a pattern, but not what you would expect. It seems even the makers of FTM differentiate between the sexes. Here's what I have noticed (and it works every time). Dad marries twice and has children with both wives. You select wife #1 as the "preferred" marriage. You add children for wife #1 - go to their tree page, then click on the "parent" tab and you are taken back to the preferred marriage. No problem. Then you add children for wife #2. Here's where it get s interesting. I have observed that IF the child is a son (male), when you click on the "parent" tab you are taken back to the correct family, Dad married to Wife #2. Now, if the child is a daughter (female), when you click on the "parent" tab you are taken back to her DAD's page, which will show the "preferred" marriage (i.e. Wife #1). That is where you are seeing the inconsistency. The solution is, while you are adding children to wife #2, temporarily make that marriage the "preferred" marriage. The parent tab will then always take you back to the right mother. After you are done, you can easily switch the "preferred" marriage back to wife #1. It just shows that even in FTM, daughters are "Daddy's little girl" :). Lorraine, in Kingston BJ wrote: Thank you for your comments. I am able to replicate this first problem but only erratically. Sometimes it returns me to the actual parents but at other times it returns me to the Preferred Spousal relationship. I have not been able to determine a pattern to this. I think what is happening is: * when you go to the child level - most times you are returned to the actual parents because the backward link is still in the temporary storage location. * when you go down an additional generational level and you attempt to return up two generational levels, you are returned to the preferred spousal relationship. I suspect the temporary memory storage was over written by the parents of the child and when you attempt to return to the grandparents, it must use the information from the relationship index which points to the preferred spouse. BJ

    01/30/2014 05:31:20
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] Find a Grave
    2. Ken Schroeder
    3. Well said BJ > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:40:35 -0800 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Find a Grave > > I think too many people misinterpret the copyright laws and may think > they are infringing upon the "owners" copyrights. > > Most of the information found on the Find A Grave web site is not > copyrightable. The name, date of birth, date of death, cemetery > information are all facts as as such are not copyrightable. Only > original content is copyrightable. This includes any original bio > information to which the Owner may or may not have the copyright. The > person who took any photos has the copyright to those photos. That may > or may not be the person who uploaded the photo to the site. Some > photos have a note that they may be copies and shared. Others whom I > have contacted tell me I am welcome to share the photos. I think most > of the contributors are friendly people who want to assist others in > locating the final resting place of their relatives and have no problem > with the information being shared. > > This is what Find A Grave's FAQ has to say about citing the memorial: > > /*How do I cite Find A Grave in a bibliography?*// > //Please feel free to cite Find A Grave in your bibliographies, lists of > references, etc. in whatever format you deem appropriate. Please note > that, while Jim Tipton is the creator of Find A Grave, he is not the > author of all of the content. If the information you are referencing > includes a "bio by XXXXXXX" line, please cite that author as well. // > //Sample citation: Bio Author. "Web Page Title". Find A Grave. Date of > (your) access.// > //Sample citation: Bio Author. "John Doe". //Find A Grave > <http://www.findagrave.com>//. 6-1-2008. //[Top > <http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=listFaqs#faqTop>]/ > > This is how I handle the information. > I enter the factual information using the Burial fact. I have a Source > - Find A Grave. This has the basic information about Find A Grave. The > source-citation contains the following > > * Citation Detail - "Cemetery record for xxxxxxx" > * Citation Text - "Memorial # nnnnnnn" > * Citation Note - any additional information from the Bio. Since > source-citation notes are not displayed in the AMT there is no > possible copyright infringement. But at any rate, I will cite the > owner as the author. > * Citation Web URL - contains a link directly to the Find A Grave > Memorial. > * Source-citation Media - a downloaded copy of the grave site photo. > I do not mark this a Private but in the media description I always > include > o Name of the individual > o Type of photo "Tombstone" > o Date of death > o Name and location of the Cemetery > o The following statement > o "Uploaded to Find A Grave Memorial # nnnnnnnnn by xxxxxxx on > dddddd" where nnnnnn is the memorial number, xxxxx is the name > of the person uploading the photo and ddddd is the date the > photo was uploaded. > o URL of the Photo in Find A Grave. > > Basically don't over complicate things too much. My interest is in > assisting others find their roots. Find A Grave encourages people to > link to their web site memorials. People willingly contribute > information and photos because it provides free access. Anyone can > search. You only need to be a member to "contribute". > > Just my 2 cents worth. > > BJ > > > On 1/28/2014 6:48 AM, Joanne Hintz wrote: > > Barry, > > > > I don't know about "genealogical standards" but with 'findability' as > > the goal, it works most of the time for most people. I use > > FindAGrave.com but add the memorial number(s) to cover the odd > > circumstances noted before and for those who aren't creative searchers. > > > > > > > > On 1/28/2014 8:04 AM, Barry S. Finkel wrote: > >>> The URLs may change but then so might the memorial numbers. > >> Would it be acceptable via genealogical standards to note only > >> "FindAGrave.com"? The FTM record should contain the person's name, > >> dates, and cemetery, so it the future it should not be hard > >> to go to the FindAGrave web site and locate the desired person. > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/29/2014 10:33:51
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 issues
    2. Joanne Hintz
    3. Thanks Lorraine and BJ for doing the "legwork" to define the conditions. I knew it wasn't random but clearly a programming issue of some sort. I just didn't have the time to pursue it as I was recovering and updating the database before I totally forgot what I'd been up to. Yes, I realize the "preferred" can be changed temporarily. I was doing updates mostly across a generation in a broad family line, so it wasn't practical - but that also probably masked the conditions to some extent. Do you know what the current link might be to report issues? J.Hintz On 1/29/2014 10:46 AM, Derk & Lorraine Sherren wrote: > Actually there is a pattern, but not what you would expect. It seems even > the makers of FTM differentiate between the sexes. Here's what I have > noticed (and it works every time). > > Dad marries twice and has children with both wives. You select wife #1 as > the "preferred" marriage. You add children for wife #1 - go to their tree > page, then click on the "parent" tab and you are taken back to the preferred > marriage. No problem. Then you add children for wife #2. Here's where it get > s interesting. I have observed that IF the child is a son (male), when you > click on the "parent" tab you are taken back to the correct family, Dad > married to Wife #2. Now, if the child is a daughter (female), when you click > on the "parent" tab you are taken back to her DAD's page, which will show > the "preferred" marriage (i.e. Wife #1). That is where you are seeing the > inconsistency. The solution is, while you are adding children to wife #2, > temporarily make that marriage the "preferred" marriage. The parent tab will > then always take you back to the right mother. After you are done, you can > easily switch the "preferred" marriage back to wife #1. It just shows that > even in FTM, daughters are "Daddy's little girl" :). > > Lorraine, in Kingston > > BJ wrote: > > Thank you for your comments. > > I am able to replicate this first problem but only erratically. > Sometimes it returns me to the actual parents but at other times it > returns me to the Preferred Spousal relationship. I have not been able > to determine a pattern to this. I think what is happening is: > > * when you go to the child level - most times you are returned to the > actual parents because the backward link is still in the temporary > storage location. > * when you go down an additional generational level and you attempt to > return up two generational levels, you are returned to the preferred > spousal relationship. I suspect the temporary memory storage was > over written by the parents of the child and when you attempt to > return to the grandparents, it must use the information from the > relationship index which points to the preferred spouse. > > BJ > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    01/29/2014 04:49:06
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 issues
    2. Derk & Lorraine Sherren
    3. Actually there is a pattern, but not what you would expect. It seems even the makers of FTM differentiate between the sexes. Here's what I have noticed (and it works every time). Dad marries twice and has children with both wives. You select wife #1 as the "preferred" marriage. You add children for wife #1 - go to their tree page, then click on the "parent" tab and you are taken back to the preferred marriage. No problem. Then you add children for wife #2. Here's where it get s interesting. I have observed that IF the child is a son (male), when you click on the "parent" tab you are taken back to the correct family, Dad married to Wife #2. Now, if the child is a daughter (female), when you click on the "parent" tab you are taken back to her DAD's page, which will show the "preferred" marriage (i.e. Wife #1). That is where you are seeing the inconsistency. The solution is, while you are adding children to wife #2, temporarily make that marriage the "preferred" marriage. The parent tab will then always take you back to the right mother. After you are done, you can easily switch the "preferred" marriage back to wife #1. It just shows that even in FTM, daughters are "Daddy's little girl" :). Lorraine, in Kingston BJ wrote: Thank you for your comments. I am able to replicate this first problem but only erratically. Sometimes it returns me to the actual parents but at other times it returns me to the Preferred Spousal relationship. I have not been able to determine a pattern to this. I think what is happening is: * when you go to the child level - most times you are returned to the actual parents because the backward link is still in the temporary storage location. * when you go down an additional generational level and you attempt to return up two generational levels, you are returned to the preferred spousal relationship. I suspect the temporary memory storage was over written by the parents of the child and when you attempt to return to the grandparents, it must use the information from the relationship index which points to the preferred spouse. BJ

    01/29/2014 04:46:56
    1. Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 issues
    2. BJ
    3. Thank you that does indeed seem to be the pattern. It isn't based so much on the gender but rather which box you click on to return. If you click on the parents on the left (normally for the male) you are returned to the birth parents. If you click on the parents on the right (normally for the female), you are returned to the Preferred spousal relationship. BJ On 1/29/2014 8:46 AM, Derk & Lorraine Sherren wrote: > Actually there is a pattern, but not what you would expect. It seems even > the makers of FTM differentiate between the sexes. Here's what I have > noticed (and it works every time). > > Dad marries twice and has children with both wives. You select wife #1 as > the "preferred" marriage. You add children for wife #1 - go to their tree > page, then click on the "parent" tab and you are taken back to the preferred > marriage. No problem. Then you add children for wife #2. Here's where it get > s interesting. I have observed that IF the child is a son (male), when you > click on the "parent" tab you are taken back to the correct family, Dad > married to Wife #2. Now, if the child is a daughter (female), when you click > on the "parent" tab you are taken back to her DAD's page, which will show > the "preferred" marriage (i.e. Wife #1). That is where you are seeing the > inconsistency. The solution is, while you are adding children to wife #2, > temporarily make that marriage the "preferred" marriage. The parent tab will > then always take you back to the right mother. After you are done, you can > easily switch the "preferred" marriage back to wife #1. It just shows that > even in FTM, daughters are "Daddy's little girl" :). > > > > Lorraine, in Kingston > > > > BJ wrote: > > Thank you for your comments. > > > > I am able to replicate this first problem but only erratically. > > Sometimes it returns me to the actual parents but at other times it > > returns me to the Preferred Spousal relationship. I have not been able > > to determine a pattern to this. I think what is happening is: > > > > * when you go to the child level - most times you are returned to the > > actual parents because the backward link is still in the temporary > > storage location. > > * when you go down an additional generational level and you attempt to > > return up two generational levels, you are returned to the preferred > > spousal relationship. I suspect the temporary memory storage was > > over written by the parents of the child and when you attempt to > > return to the grandparents, it must use the information from the > > relationship index which points to the preferred spouse. > > > > BJ > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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