I agree that the panels should be resizable. My comment was directed more toward the characterization of the sizes between the two panels. It may be caused by the resolution of your screen but the ratios between the two panels is not 2:1. I'm pretty sure they are sized from the top of the screen area. To get more of the dashboard, lengthen the window. This is true of all work areas. If you shorten the window too much, you begin losing area from the bottom first. BJ On 2/21/2014 9:36 PM, John Maynard wrote: > At 04:54 PM 21-02-14 -0800, BJ wrote: >> I'm sorry but I don't understand the problem. ... FTM 2014 on the >> other hand, the dashboard and the Task area are the same width which >> is approximately 4/5 the width of the window. The Task area is >> slightly higher than the Dashboard but only about 1/6 larger. The >> big loser in space between FTM 2012 and FTM 2014 ... The winners in >> FTM 2014 are the Tree Sync area and About This Family Tree area, >> both are narrower but taller and the Dashboard which is slightly >> shorter but much wider. The Tree selection area has been removed > >from the static display in the FTM 2014 Plan work area but >> redesigned into a drop down window available in any work area. >> Personally, I think the new design is much better use of the >> landscape than FTM 2012. Just my 2 cents worth. BJ > Hello BJ. What I want are resizable windows in Plan. It doesn't > matter whether I maximize the FTM window or not. Ancestry Web > Dashboard in FTM-2014 hides too many items. I want more real estate > space because I want to see more items, such as Ancestry Community > messages and Member Connect Activity and Links. These windows within > Dashboard are so tiny they're useless. > > My complaint is not the left panel (that's okay), but the right panel > where Tasks take up more than 2/3 of the real estate and Ancestry Web > Dashboard has less than 1/3. There's not enough space in Dashboard to > work with. I don't have 'a ton' of tasks to do. I'd like to move the > border up to give me a larger Dashboard, but there's no way to do it. > > People - Places - Media - Sources - Publish all have adjustable > windows. Why not Plan ??? > > John M. > > >> On 2/21/2014 4:06 PM, Rosemary Jones wrote: >>> No way that I can figure. It's a royal PITA. >>> >>> John Maynard wrote: >>>> Okay. Here's an issue that's bugging me. >>>> FTM-2014's Dashboard has a different layout from 2012. It's found >>>> under 'Plan' and consumes but one third of the main panel while the >>>> 'Tasks' window above takes up two-thirds of the real estate. >>>> >>>> I'd like to resize the Dashboard so I can view more items, but I >>>> can't find any way to do it. Any suggestions? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > John Maynard > Phillip Island, Australia > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... > ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed." > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi John, I did not manually enter any personal ID numbers. I figured out how to delete all person Ids automatically by creating a new fact and changing the person lD to the new fact. Then deleting the new fact. I want to only use the automatic person Id. In FTM 2014 You can edit the automatic generated Person ID # and make it private by clicking on the pencil to the right of the grayed number. Now how do I fix the problem with the numbers in below as I only have 120000 people in the database and in the report every person has a number, how can the numbers be higher than 120000. Note the number 14752570713534 for Charlemagne Carolingian. Also note 59010282854136. i. Charles Martel. I never had numbers like this in older versions of FTM. 198664. Thomas Thornton. Thomas Thornton had the following child: 99332. i. Thomas Thornton. 198674. John de Dineley. John de Dineley had the following child: 99337. i. Margery Dyneley. She married Walter de Calvery. 209920. John De Bolling. He married Grace Papeley. 209921. Grace Papeley. Grace Papeley and John De Bolling had the following child: 49664. i. Robert de Bolling. He married Margaret Thornoe. 209922. Thomas Thornoe. Thomas Thornoe had the following child: 49665. i. Margaret Thornoe. She married Robert de Bolling. 14752570713534. Charlemagne Carolingian, son of Pepin the Short and Bertrada of Laon, was born in 747 AD in Herstal, Belgium. He died on Jan 28, 814 AD in Aachen, Germany. He married Hildegard. 14752570713535. Hildegard was born in 758 AD. She died in 783 AD. Plectrude and Pepin of Herstal had the following child: 59010282854136. i. Charles Martel was born on Aug 23, 686 AD I would still like to generate an all-in-one chart to a PDF file. Thanks Fred -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Donaldson Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 all in one chart and reindexing database Go into Tools>Options>References and turn on the ID numbers FTM Help Notes Options: References The References tab in the Options dialog box lets you set up automatic reference numbering of the Person ID and Relationship ID facts for each record in your tree. The Person ID and Relationship ID facts provide a way for you to record a reference number for a person or relationship. You can enter values in these fields manually or enable Family Tree Maker to assign them automatically. When you enable the automatic reference numbers for an ID fact, a reference number is added to each record to which you have not assigned a reference number manually. You can enable automatic Person ID and Relationship ID numbering separately. Manually entered reference numbers A manually entered reference number can include any alphanumeric characters and does not need to be unique in the tree. You do not need to enter a reference number for each record or relationship; however, reference numbers can be helpful when searching for a record or identifying a person. You can include as many manually entered reference numbers as you want and can replace an automatically generated reference number with a manually entered reference number (see To edit an automatically generated reference number). Automatically entered reference numbers Family Tree Maker does not automatically assign reference numbers unless you have specified for it to do so in the References tab of the Options dialog box. Numbering begins with the first record in the database and incrementally assigns reference numbers according to the options you specify. There can be only one automatically entered reference number per person or relationship. If you delete all manually entered references, and automatic reference numbering is enabled, Family Tree Maker automatically assigns a reference number to the person or relationship. Because you can assign reference numbers manually to a person or relationship, Family Tree Maker follows distinct guidelines regarding reference numbers: .You can identify an automatically generated reference number from the gray background and lack of Options menu. When you click the number, an Edit Reference Number button appears. .Manual reference numbers always override automatic reference numbers. .Enabling automatic reference numbers does not overwrite existing manual reference numbers. .If you have added a Person ID or Relationship ID fact to a record but left it blank, an automatically generated reference number will NOT replace that reference number. You must remove the fact to enable automatic reference numbering for that record. .You cannot mark an automatic reference number as Preferred or Private. .You can mark a manual reference number as Preferred or Private. .You cannot include fact properties, sources, media, or notes with an automatically generated reference number. .You cannot delete an automatically generated Person ID or Relationship ID fact. .Automatic reference numbers are unique among themselves but can be identical to existing manual reference numbers. .When viewing Fact Data Options for Person ID or Relationship ID facts, only manual reference numbers are listed for All individuals. Automatically generated reference numbers will not be included. .When you disable automatic reference numbers, the automatic reference numbers are removed from all records. Manual Reference IDs are not removed. .Reference numbers (both automatic and manual) are NOT included in any of the exports John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred & Marie Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2014 4:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 all in one chart and reindexing database What I want is what was available in earlier versions of FTM that allowed you to generate a tree going back as far as you wanted in a tree with every one of your grandparents on one screen. Then create a PDF file that you can send to someone and they can pan around the tree not to print it. If you use the book option for the it will produce all the ancestors but on hundreds of different pages. Under options it allows me to pick a PDF driver and it is Adobe, but I can pick others like snagit and one note Older versions allowed you to reindex. Under a individuals personal information is Person Id number. On reindexing the file I mean the personal ID numbering assigned to each individual. I created a ahnentafel report and every one appears to be numbered correctly until about page 241 of 340 then the numbers jump to 147000, 2m, 4m, 6m , 18m, 78m, 156m, 313m . I only have 120,952 people in my database. For example Matilda Atheling of Scotland is listed as 80353188331 but if you go to this person there is NO ID number for her. This person I manually added the other day. If I go to Tools, Options, Reference and select Use individual reference numbers it then places a ID number 120409 for her but not in the report. Unchecking using individual reference numbers removes the ID for only the people that did not have the personal Id number which is about half the people in the database. How do I get the numbers corrected if you can't reindex the file in FTM 2014? What it looks like to me is that everyone I have added after the import to FTM 2014 is missing the personal ID number. 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No way that I can figure. It's a royal PITA. Rosemary On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:27 PM, John Maynard <[email protected]>wrote: > Okay. Here's an issue that's bugging me. > > FTM-2014's Dashboard has a different layout from 2012. It's found > under 'Plan' and consumes but one third of the main panel while the > 'Tasks' window above takes up two-thirds of the real estate. > > I'd like to resize the Dashboard so I can view more items, but I > can't find any way to do it. Any suggestions? > > John in Oz. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > John Maynard > Phillip Island, Australia > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... > ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed." > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm sorry but I don't understand the problem. I opened both FTM 2012 and FTM 2014 to the Plan work area. I then maximized both windows. I looked at both and find more space available for the Dashboard in FTM 2014 than in FTM 2012. Unfortunately, the list does not allow images but FTM 2012 limits the dashboard to approximately 1/5 the size of the Tasks work area and it only goes up the right side about 2/3 of the window size. FTM 2014 on the other hand, the dashboard and the Task area are the same width which is approximately 4/5 the width of the window. The Task area is slightly higher than the Dashboard but only about 1/6 larger. The big loser in space between FTM 2012 and FTM 2014 is the Task area. The winners in FTM 2014 are the Tree Sync area and About This Family Tree area, both are narrower but taller and the Dashboard which is slightly shorter but much wider. The Tree selection area has been removed from the static display in the FTM 2014 Plan work area but redesigned into a drop down window available in any work area. Personally, I think the new design is much better use of the landscape than FTM 2012. Just my 2 cents worth. BJ On 2/21/2014 4:06 PM, Rosemary Jones wrote: > No way that I can figure. It's a royal PITA. > > > John Maynard wrote: > >> Okay. Here's an issue that's bugging me. >> >> FTM-2014's Dashboard has a different layout from 2012. It's found >> under 'Plan' and consumes but one third of the main panel while the >> 'Tasks' window above takes up two-thirds of the real estate. >> >> I'd like to resize the Dashboard so I can view more items, but I >> can't find any way to do it. Any suggestions?

Go into Tools>Options>References and turn on the ID numbers FTM Help Notes Options: References The References tab in the Options dialog box lets you set up automatic reference numbering of the Person ID and Relationship ID facts for each record in your tree. The Person ID and Relationship ID facts provide a way for you to record a reference number for a person or relationship. You can enter values in these fields manually or enable Family Tree Maker to assign them automatically. When you enable the automatic reference numbers for an ID fact, a reference number is added to each record to which you have not assigned a reference number manually. You can enable automatic Person ID and Relationship ID numbering separately. Manually entered reference numbers A manually entered reference number can include any alphanumeric characters and does not need to be unique in the tree. You do not need to enter a reference number for each record or relationship; however, reference numbers can be helpful when searching for a record or identifying a person. You can include as many manually entered reference numbers as you want and can replace an automatically generated reference number with a manually entered reference number (see To edit an automatically generated reference number). Automatically entered reference numbers Family Tree Maker does not automatically assign reference numbers unless you have specified for it to do so in the References tab of the Options dialog box. Numbering begins with the first record in the database and incrementally assigns reference numbers according to the options you specify. There can be only one automatically entered reference number per person or relationship. If you delete all manually entered references, and automatic reference numbering is enabled, Family Tree Maker automatically assigns a reference number to the person or relationship. Because you can assign reference numbers manually to a person or relationship, Family Tree Maker follows distinct guidelines regarding reference numbers: .You can identify an automatically generated reference number from the gray background and lack of Options menu. When you click the number, an Edit Reference Number button appears. .Manual reference numbers always override automatic reference numbers. .Enabling automatic reference numbers does not overwrite existing manual reference numbers. .If you have added a Person ID or Relationship ID fact to a record but left it blank, an automatically generated reference number will NOT replace that reference number. You must remove the fact to enable automatic reference numbering for that record. .You cannot mark an automatic reference number as Preferred or Private. .You can mark a manual reference number as Preferred or Private. .You cannot include fact properties, sources, media, or notes with an automatically generated reference number. .You cannot delete an automatically generated Person ID or Relationship ID fact. .Automatic reference numbers are unique among themselves but can be identical to existing manual reference numbers. .When viewing Fact Data Options for Person ID or Relationship ID facts, only manual reference numbers are listed for All individuals. Automatically generated reference numbers will not be included. .When you disable automatic reference numbers, the automatic reference numbers are removed from all records. Manual Reference IDs are not removed. .Reference numbers (both automatic and manual) are NOT included in any of the exports John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred & Marie Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2014 4:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 all in one chart and reindexing database What I want is what was available in earlier versions of FTM that allowed you to generate a tree going back as far as you wanted in a tree with every one of your grandparents on one screen. Then create a PDF file that you can send to someone and they can pan around the tree not to print it. If you use the book option for the it will produce all the ancestors but on hundreds of different pages. Under options it allows me to pick a PDF driver and it is Adobe, but I can pick others like snagit and one note Older versions allowed you to reindex. Under a individuals personal information is Person Id number. On reindexing the file I mean the personal ID numbering assigned to each individual. I created a ahnentafel report and every one appears to be numbered correctly until about page 241 of 340 then the numbers jump to 147000, 2m, 4m, 6m , 18m, 78m, 156m, 313m . I only have 120,952 people in my database. For example Matilda Atheling of Scotland is listed as 80353188331 but if you go to this person there is NO ID number for her. This person I manually added the other day. If I go to Tools, Options, Reference and select Use individual reference numbers it then places a ID number 120409 for her but not in the report. Unchecking using individual reference numbers removes the ID for only the people that did not have the personal Id number which is about half the people in the database. How do I get the numbers corrected if you can't reindex the file in FTM 2014? What it looks like to me is that everyone I have added after the import to FTM 2014 is missing the personal ID number. Thanks for the help Fred

What I want is what was available in earlier versions of FTM that allowed you to generate a tree going back as far as you wanted in a tree with every one of your grandparents on one screen. Then create a PDF file that you can send to someone and they can pan around the tree not to print it. If you use the book option for the it will produce all the ancestors but on hundreds of different pages. Under options it allows me to pick a PDF driver and it is Adobe, but I can pick others like snagit and one note Older versions allowed you to reindex. Under a individuals personal information is Person Id number. On reindexing the file I mean the personal ID numbering assigned to each individual. I created a ahnentafel report and every one appears to be numbered correctly until about page 241 of 340 then the numbers jump to 147000, 2m, 4m, 6m , 18m, 78m, 156m, 313m . I only have 120,952 people in my database. For example Matilda Atheling of Scotland is listed as 80353188331 but if you go to this person there is NO ID number for her. This person I manually added the other day. If I go to Tools, Options, Reference and select Use individual reference numbers it then places a ID number 120409 for her but not in the report. Unchecking using individual reference numbers removes the ID for only the people that did not have the personal Id number which is about half the people in the database. How do I get the numbers corrected if you can't reindex the file in FTM 2014? What it looks like to me is that everyone I have added after the import to FTM 2014 is missing the personal ID number. Thanks for the help Fred -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of BJ Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 all in one chart and reindexing database You can use the Share, Export to one page PDF to send the chart to a PDF file. The only problem is if the chart is more than about 200 x 200 inches, you will get a message saying the chart is too big and will be clipped. There is no way to get around this. FTM uses a 3rd party's PDF generator and there are no controls or options. The 3rd party generator is developed to the PDF Version 1.3 or about Acrobat 4.x level) which controls the maximum page size. Up to Acrobat 3.0 - 45 x 45 inches (max) From Acrobat 4.0 - 200 x 200 inches (max) As I understand it Adobe 8 and above have a higher max page size but most readers will not handle the custom sizes. I have BullZip PDF installed. It can match Adobe 8 and I was able to use it to create a PDF with 1000 x 1000 inches page. I set that as my default printer. FTM then used that as a printer and I could specify the Extended Family Chart be produced on a page 1000 x 1000. I could see the chart in FTM 2014 and I was able to print it using the BullZip PDF driver; however, when I opened the PDF in any reader, the page always appeared blank. There was no way to view the chart. As for the maximum number of generations for the Pedigree chart, I suspect that has to do with the maximum page size of 200 inches when you export it to a One page PDF. It is difficult to get 16 generations on a single 200 inch high page. If I used the chart defaults for the information and format, I could not even get 16 generations on one page. The bottom of the chart was always clipped. Playing around with the format, i.e. using "squished" and with the information included (Birth, Married, Death with date and location only, i.e. no description); I was able to get it to 199 inches. Check the size of the chart in the upper right corner of the Preview. The format is width x height. I'm not sure what you mean when you say, "Reindex the file". You can change the sort of the index displayed but other than that there is no way to reindex the file. Can you explain with a bit more information exactly what are you trying to do? Hope this helps. BJ On 2/17/2014 7:03 AM, Fred & Marie wrote: > Can any of you tell me how to generate a poster chart or other kind of > chart like in the older versions of FTM that shows all ancestors on > one chart so I can create a PDF file of it as one page. It will > create a chart but it is on like 70 pages but still only 16 > generations not as one page like the older versions of FTM. Saving it > as one PDF file lets a person move around the tree and see where everyone. > > I went to pedigree chart and selected poster, but it only lets me do > 16 generations . > > Is there any way to reindex a file in FTM 2014 > > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am referring to the personal ID number assigned to each person. Fred -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rosemary Jones Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 8:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 all in one chart and reindexing database Perhaps by Reindex, we should think Compact the file under Tools>Compact. This effectively reindexes the file removing unwanted space. Backing up beforehand is essential. The Compact command has an option to backup before continuing. Rosemary On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 5:17 PM, BJ <[email protected]> wrote: > You can use the Share, Export to one page PDF to send the chart to a > PDF file. The only problem is if the chart is more than about 200 x > 200 inches, you will get a message saying the chart is too big and > will be clipped. There is no way to get around this. FTM uses a 3rd > party's PDF generator and there are no controls or options. The 3rd > party generator is developed to the PDF Version 1.3 or about Acrobat > 4.x > level) which controls the maximum page size. > Up to Acrobat 3.0 - 45 x 45 inches (max) > From Acrobat 4.0 - 200 x 200 inches (max) As I understand it Adobe > 8 and above have a higher max page size but most readers will not > handle the custom sizes. > > I have BullZip PDF installed. It can match Adobe 8 and I was able to > use it to create a PDF with 1000 x 1000 inches page. I set that as my > default printer. FTM then used that as a printer and I could specify > the Extended Family Chart be produced on a page 1000 x 1000. I could > see the chart in FTM 2014 and I was able to print it using the BullZip > PDF driver; however, when I opened the PDF in any reader, the page > always appeared blank. There was no way to view the chart. > > As for the maximum number of generations for the Pedigree chart, I > suspect that has to do with the maximum page size of 200 inches when > you export it to a One page PDF. It is difficult to get 16 > generations on a single 200 inch high page. If I used the chart > defaults for the information and format, I could not even get 16 > generations on one page. The bottom of the chart was always clipped. > Playing around with the format, i.e. using "squished" and with the > information included (Birth, Married, Death with date and location > only, i.e. no description); I was able to get it to 199 inches. Check > the size of the chart in the upper right corner of the Preview. The > format is width x height. > > I'm not sure what you mean when you say, "Reindex the file". You can > change the sort of the index displayed but other than that there is no > way to reindex the file. Can you explain with a bit more information > exactly what are you trying to do? > > Hope this helps. > > BJ > > On 2/17/2014 7:03 AM, Fred & Marie wrote: > > Can any of you tell me how to generate a poster chart or other kind > > of > chart > > like in the older versions of FTM that shows all ancestors on one > > chart > so I > > can create a PDF file of it as one page. It will create a chart but > > it > is > > on like 70 pages but still only 16 generations not as one page like > > the older versions of FTM. Saving it as one PDF file lets a person > > move > around > > the tree and see where everyone. > > > > I went to pedigree chart and selected poster, but it only lets me do > > 16 generations . > > > > Is there any way to reindex a file in FTM 2014 > > > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 07:30 PM 17-02-14 -0600, Rosemary Jones wrote: >Perhaps by Reindex, we should think Compact the file under Tools>Compact. >This effectively reindexes the file removing unwanted space. Backing up >beforehand is essential. The Compact command has an option to backup before >continuing. Rosemary You can now do a double-compact, to achieve 0.00%, without closing your file with FTM-2014. The Ancestry Support Team recommends closing out of your Tree in FTM-2012 to achieve the same result: 0.00% ~ John M. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Maynard Phillip Island, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed."

In versions FTM 2012 and earlier, compacting was needed much more than it is in FTM 2014 because it was a method for correcting addresses and possible errors in links. FTM 2014 has a new data base structure and is much more robust and stable. As a result, compacting isn't needed as much as it was in previous versions. It is useful in recovering empty space in the data base and unlike its predecessor it recovers all space down to 0%. BJ On 2/17/2014 5:56 PM, John Maynard wrote: > At 07:30 PM 17-02-14 -0600, Rosemary Jones wrote: >> Perhaps by Reindex, we should think Compact the file under Tools>Compact. >> This effectively reindexes the file removing unwanted space. Backing up >> beforehand is essential. The Compact command has an option to backup before >> continuing. Rosemary > You can now do a double-compact, to achieve 0.00%, without closing > your file with FTM-2014. The Ancestry Support Team recommends closing > out of your Tree in FTM-2012 to achieve the same result: 0.00% ~

Perhaps by Reindex, we should think Compact the file under Tools>Compact. This effectively reindexes the file removing unwanted space. Backing up beforehand is essential. The Compact command has an option to backup before continuing. Rosemary On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 5:17 PM, BJ <[email protected]> wrote: > You can use the Share, Export to one page PDF to send the chart to a PDF > file. The only problem is if the chart is more than about 200 x 200 > inches, you will get a message saying the chart is too big and will be > clipped. There is no way to get around this. FTM uses a 3rd party's > PDF generator and there are no controls or options. The 3rd party > generator is developed to the PDF Version 1.3 or about Acrobat 4.x > level) which controls the maximum page size. > Up to Acrobat 3.0 - 45 x 45 inches (max) > From Acrobat 4.0 - 200 x 200 inches (max) > As I understand it Adobe 8 and above have a higher max page size but > most readers will not handle the custom sizes. > > I have BullZip PDF installed. It can match Adobe 8 and I was able to > use it to create a PDF with 1000 x 1000 inches page. I set that as my > default printer. FTM then used that as a printer and I could specify > the Extended Family Chart be produced on a page 1000 x 1000. I could > see the chart in FTM 2014 and I was able to print it using the BullZip > PDF driver; however, when I opened the PDF in any reader, the page > always appeared blank. There was no way to view the chart. > > As for the maximum number of generations for the Pedigree chart, I > suspect that has to do with the maximum page size of 200 inches when > you export it to a One page PDF. It is difficult to get 16 generations > on a single 200 inch high page. If I used the chart defaults for the > information and format, I could not even get 16 generations on one > page. The bottom of the chart was always clipped. Playing around with > the format, i.e. using "squished" and with the information included > (Birth, Married, Death with date and location only, i.e. no > description); I was able to get it to 199 inches. Check the size of the > chart in the upper right corner of the Preview. The format is width x > height. > > I'm not sure what you mean when you say, "Reindex the file". You can > change the sort of the index displayed but other than that there is no > way to reindex the file. Can you explain with a bit more information > exactly what are you trying to do? > > Hope this helps. > > BJ > > On 2/17/2014 7:03 AM, Fred & Marie wrote: > > Can any of you tell me how to generate a poster chart or other kind of > chart > > like in the older versions of FTM that shows all ancestors on one chart > so I > > can create a PDF file of it as one page. It will create a chart but it > is > > on like 70 pages but still only 16 generations not as one page like the > > older versions of FTM. Saving it as one PDF file lets a person move > around > > the tree and see where everyone. > > > > I went to pedigree chart and selected poster, but it only lets me do 16 > > generations . > > > > Is there any way to reindex a file in FTM 2014 > > > > > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

You can use the Share, Export to one page PDF to send the chart to a PDF file. The only problem is if the chart is more than about 200 x 200 inches, you will get a message saying the chart is too big and will be clipped. There is no way to get around this. FTM uses a 3rd party's PDF generator and there are no controls or options. The 3rd party generator is developed to the PDF Version 1.3 or about Acrobat 4.x level) which controls the maximum page size. Up to Acrobat 3.0 - 45 x 45 inches (max) From Acrobat 4.0 - 200 x 200 inches (max) As I understand it Adobe 8 and above have a higher max page size but most readers will not handle the custom sizes. I have BullZip PDF installed. It can match Adobe 8 and I was able to use it to create a PDF with 1000 x 1000 inches page. I set that as my default printer. FTM then used that as a printer and I could specify the Extended Family Chart be produced on a page 1000 x 1000. I could see the chart in FTM 2014 and I was able to print it using the BullZip PDF driver; however, when I opened the PDF in any reader, the page always appeared blank. There was no way to view the chart. As for the maximum number of generations for the Pedigree chart, I suspect that has to do with the maximum page size of 200 inches when you export it to a One page PDF. It is difficult to get 16 generations on a single 200 inch high page. If I used the chart defaults for the information and format, I could not even get 16 generations on one page. The bottom of the chart was always clipped. Playing around with the format, i.e. using "squished" and with the information included (Birth, Married, Death with date and location only, i.e. no description); I was able to get it to 199 inches. Check the size of the chart in the upper right corner of the Preview. The format is width x height. I'm not sure what you mean when you say, "Reindex the file". You can change the sort of the index displayed but other than that there is no way to reindex the file. Can you explain with a bit more information exactly what are you trying to do? Hope this helps. BJ On 2/17/2014 7:03 AM, Fred & Marie wrote: > Can any of you tell me how to generate a poster chart or other kind of chart > like in the older versions of FTM that shows all ancestors on one chart so I > can create a PDF file of it as one page. It will create a chart but it is > on like 70 pages but still only 16 generations not as one page like the > older versions of FTM. Saving it as one PDF file lets a person move around > the tree and see where everyone. > > I went to pedigree chart and selected poster, but it only lets me do 16 > generations . > > Is there any way to reindex a file in FTM 2014 > >

Can any of you tell me how to generate a poster chart or other kind of chart like in the older versions of FTM that shows all ancestors on one chart so I can create a PDF file of it as one page. It will create a chart but it is on like 70 pages but still only 16 generations not as one page like the older versions of FTM. Saving it as one PDF file lets a person move around the tree and see where everyone. I went to pedigree chart and selected poster, but it only lets me do 16 generations . Is there any way to reindex a file in FTM 2014 Thanks Fred

BJ This has been a long day, and I can't say much now (have some basketball to watch!). But I wanted you to know that your more detailed instructions have enabled me to delete 110 "islands" from my database today. With a moderately large database this has consumed hours of work. So I'm tired, but very happy with what you have helped me to learn. My best guess is that I probably have at least several more hundreds to delete (and one critical "island" to export). I suspect I may have another week's work on this, but it will be worth it. And I did order FTM 2014, by the way--thought it might be a bit faster than my present FTM 2012. Thanks== Bruce On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 1:16 AM, BJ <[email protected]> wrote: > No need to buy FTM 2014 to do this but personally I like FTM 2014 the > best of all. > > Now as to your questions. I'll try to be more explicit but please > forgive me if I over simplify as I don't know your level of expertise > with the program. Remember to make a backup of your file before you begin. > > 1. With FTM 2012 open using the tree in question. Go to the People > work area and select an individual in the main tree. Normally the > main tree involves the Home person but it can be anyone within the > main tree. > 2. Click on Publish. > 3. Click on Charts > 4. Double Click on Extended Family Chart > 5. I suggest you tailor what is displayed on the chart by Clicking on > the option - Items to include. This is the first icon at the top of > the right panel. Hover the cursor over the icon to see the title. > 6. A dialog box opens which allows to you select what you want to > include in the place. I suggest you remove the check mark next to > source. If you've never used this before, it is probably set to > Include: Name, Birth, Marriage and Death dates. This will probably > be enough to let you identify the individuals in the trees. Click > OK to return the the Preview work area. > 7. Now if you will look at the panel on the right, you will see three > check boxes. Place a check mark in the middle one - Include all > individuals. I would also remove the check mark next to the first > option - Center tree on page as this will make it easier to view the > chart to find the different branches. As you make changes in the > options, the chart will begin generating. Ignore it and simply > continue making the changes I described. > 8. Let the chart generate. This may take some time depending upon the > number of people in the data base. > 9. I suggest you display the chart at about 50% of its size (option > found in the upper left corner just beneath the chart title, > Extended Family Chart Preview. This will let you see more of the > chart in a single window. > 10. Begin scrolling down the chart. You will see different generation > levels in the main tree but you will eventually begin to see other > separate trees. > 11. You can normally identify them by their isolation. They will display > on the left of the chart. They will not have any connecting lines > to the trees above. It is really difficult to see but alternating > trees have a slight variation in the back ground. I really which it > were more distinct. I was looking for it and missed it the first > five times I looked at it. > 12. Once you have identified a tree that you want removed, Click on > anyone in that tree. The box around the selected person will change > to blue. > 13. Click the right mouse button. A list of options will pop-up. > 14. Select "Person and all Relations" ( the seventh option down in the > list). Now all individuals in that tree is selected as indicated by > the blue box around each. > 15. Place the cursor over one person in the tree and again click the > right mouse button. > 16. Click the "Delete from tree" option from the list. Another list of > options will be displayed. Click on the top option, "Selected > Persons". This will delete everyone who has a blue box so ensure > only the individuals in the one tree are selected. > 17. You can repeat steps 10 through 16 to eliminate all unwanted trees. > > If you want to export the selected individuals rather than delete them, > Use the "Export" option in lieu of the "Delete" option. > > Hope this helps. > > BJ > > > On 2/14/2014 5:10 PM, Bruce King wrote: > > here are some of today's problem(s): > > > > > > [1] In instruction 1: "Generate the Extended Family Chart and select the > option to include All Individuals" > > > > I don't encounter that option. Where is it? > > > > > > [2] In instruction 3: ". . . you should see isolated tree/branches > and/or individuals." > > > > I don't see those > > > > > > [3] in Instruction 6: "Select Person and All Relations." > > > > I don't encounter that option. Where is it? > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Bruce: [email protected] Mary: [email protected] /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

If you are only interested in one or two large trees and want to get rid of the rest, it might be less time consuming to use the same technique to select the desired trees, export them to new files and then simply delete the current files with all of the unwanted trees. You can then restore the two exported files into separate FTM files. The only downside is if the main data base is synced to an AMT. Even then it might be easier to delete that AMT and then re-upload the new data base to Ancestry.com. Enjoy the basketball games. BJ On 2/15/2014 2:09 PM, Bruce King wrote: > BJ This has been a long day, and I can't say much now (have some basketball to watch!). > > But I wanted you to know that your more detailed instructions have enabled me to delete 110 "islands" from my database today. With a moderately large database this has consumed hours of work. So I'm tired, but very happy with what you have helped me to learn. My best guess is that I probably have at least several more hundreds to delete (and one critical "island" to export). > > I suspect I may have another week's work on this, but it will be worth it. And I did order FTM 2014, by the way--thought it might be a bit faster than my present FTM 2012. >

No need to buy FTM 2014 to do this but personally I like FTM 2014 the best of all. Now as to your questions. I'll try to be more explicit but please forgive me if I over simplify as I don't know your level of expertise with the program. Remember to make a backup of your file before you begin. 1. With FTM 2012 open using the tree in question. Go to the People work area and select an individual in the main tree. Normally the main tree involves the Home person but it can be anyone within the main tree. 2. Click on Publish. 3. Click on Charts 4. Double Click on Extended Family Chart 5. I suggest you tailor what is displayed on the chart by Clicking on the option - Items to include. This is the first icon at the top of the right panel. Hover the cursor over the icon to see the title. 6. A dialog box opens which allows to you select what you want to include in the place. I suggest you remove the check mark next to source. If you've never used this before, it is probably set to Include: Name, Birth, Marriage and Death dates. This will probably be enough to let you identify the individuals in the trees. Click OK to return the the Preview work area. 7. Now if you will look at the panel on the right, you will see three check boxes. Place a check mark in the middle one - Include all individuals. I would also remove the check mark next to the first option - Center tree on page as this will make it easier to view the chart to find the different branches. As you make changes in the options, the chart will begin generating. Ignore it and simply continue making the changes I described. 8. Let the chart generate. This may take some time depending upon the number of people in the data base. 9. I suggest you display the chart at about 50% of its size (option found in the upper left corner just beneath the chart title, Extended Family Chart Preview. This will let you see more of the chart in a single window. 10. Begin scrolling down the chart. You will see different generation levels in the main tree but you will eventually begin to see other separate trees. 11. You can normally identify them by their isolation. They will display on the left of the chart. They will not have any connecting lines to the trees above. It is really difficult to see but alternating trees have a slight variation in the back ground. I really which it were more distinct. I was looking for it and missed it the first five times I looked at it. 12. Once you have identified a tree that you want removed, Click on anyone in that tree. The box around the selected person will change to blue. 13. Click the right mouse button. A list of options will pop-up. 14. Select "Person and all Relations" ( the seventh option down in the list). Now all individuals in that tree is selected as indicated by the blue box around each. 15. Place the cursor over one person in the tree and again click the right mouse button. 16. Click the "Delete from tree" option from the list. Another list of options will be displayed. Click on the top option, "Selected Persons". This will delete everyone who has a blue box so ensure only the individuals in the one tree are selected. 17. You can repeat steps 10 through 16 to eliminate all unwanted trees. If you want to export the selected individuals rather than delete them, Use the "Export" option in lieu of the "Delete" option. Hope this helps. BJ On 2/14/2014 5:10 PM, Bruce King wrote: > here are some of today's problem(s): > > > [1] In instruction 1: "Generate the Extended Family Chart and select the option to include All Individuals" > > I don't encounter that option. Where is it? > > > [2] In instruction 3: ". . . you should see isolated tree/branches and/or individuals." > > I don't see those > > > [3] in Instruction 6: "Select Person and All Relations." > > I don't encounter that option. Where is it?

Sorry; I may have sent this to a wrong place before. Try again. . . ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bruce King <[email protected]> Date: Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:17 PM Subject: FTM 2012 / FTM 2014 To: [email protected] I have FTM 2012 running on Windows 7 (Home Premium), on a 64bit laptop. I have an FTM database A containing an FTM sub-database B. (See below if you need to know more about A and B.) I am using BJ's instructions from his email of 29 Oct 2012 (14:55:12)--see the archives--and here are some of today's problem(s): [1] In instruction 1: "Generate the Extended Family Chart and select the option to include All Individuals" I don't encounter that option. Where is it? [2] In instruction 3: ". . . you should see isolated tree/branches and/or individuals." I don't see those [3] in Instruction 6: "Select Person and All Relations." I don't encounter that option. Where is it? The simplest explanation for this is that my version of FTM isn't the right one. Should I buy FTM 2014? Footnote: In late 2012 I raised some questions about an FTM file of about 10,000 people (file A). That database included two general components: (a) a "core" sub-tree, larger than half of A, with all people related to one another, and (b) a loose group of other people, either isolated individuals, or groups ("islands") of related people within an island, but otherwise unconnected to others. This part of A can be labeled file B. At that time, several people responded to my distress but, in the end, I did what I needed to do in a somewhat tedious but simpler way. -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Bruce: [email protected] Mary: [email protected] /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Bruce: [email protected] Mary: [email protected] /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

Recently someone asked how they might submit a suggestion or other feedback for FTM or Ancestry.com. I searched a long time and then stumbled upon a web address. Well the happy news is that there is an easier way although it is not too intuitive. Here is how to find it. 1. In FTM, Click - Help and select Online Help Center 2. The Online Help Center web page will open, look on the right side beneath Contact Us. 3. Click - Ask the Community 4. Scroll the page until you see More Resources 5. Click - Submit Feedback Hope this helps. BJ

On 2/12/2014 3:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 09:50:45 -0600 > From: "Arnie-Krause"<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] I am absolutely disgusted with FTM 2012 > To:<[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have my XP system that I use for data entry for FTM-2006/16 and also my > Windows 7 Ultimate system. I have FTM-2006/16 on the Windows 7 system but do > not use it for data entry or report generation as the PDF internal generator > does not work properly. However, I have "Windows XP Mode" installed on the > Windows 7 Ultimate system and this allows me to run Windows XP on a virtual > machine and use FTM-2006/16 on this virtual machine and it works exactly the > same as on my XP systems. Also have a notebook with Windows 7 Ultimate with > the same "Windows XP Mode" that allows me to run FTM-2006/16 on that machine > as well. This is my solution and preparation for the day when my old XP > system gives up the gost. Arnie, I also have my Windows 7 Pro system set up with "Windows XP mode". I hesitated to mention that in my earlier post so as to not confuse Pat. Perhaps you can walk him/her through it. I would definitely first: 1) save all files as they are, and COPY to somewhere other than c:\ drive (I use dropbox) 2) then convert and save all files as gedcoms, and COPY to somewhere other than c:\ drive (dropbox) That way you have 2 sets of identical files. If the files on the Dell get corrupted you can COPY them back from your safe saving place. 3) install Windows XP mode 4) shutdown/restart, try v16 and see if it runs better under the XP mode. If not: 5) uninstall v16/shutdown/restart/reinstall, try again with the files on the Dell 6) If that doesn't work MY last resort would be to buy/beg/borrow/steal another machine with Windows XP only and install v16 from disk, COPY the good files from the safe place. Again, I use dropbox At home I use my HP Windows 7 machine and save to a folder called _Family Files_ on my desktop AND to dropbox "in the sky" as I call it. On the road, I use a little HP Win XP machine, COPY FROM dropbox "in the sky", work on it, COPY TO dropbox "in the sky". Then, when back home, I COPY the saved fresh file FROM dropbox "in the sky" back to the _Family Files_ folder. I've actually worked on the file at 35,000 feet "IN the sky" coming back from somewhere :) I sure hope this helps. BTW, dropbox is simple, and free. I love it. Randy

I failed to mention in my previous reply to you that I have this same problem when I try to do a search on my Windows 7 Ultimate system when using FTM-2006/16. It has been this way since I first installed FTM-16 on it. Reinstalling will not help as it appears that Ancestry.com do not provide the cookie to systems that are older than what they want to support. Their way to try and force users to use the much inferior new products that they are pushing. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Arnold E. Krause 1611 Arlington Ave., Saskatoon, Sask., CANADA, S7H 2Y6 Tel: (306) 374-3348 email address: [email protected] Homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/arnie-krause/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 11 February, 2014 9:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Version 16 Web Search not working + new problem Thanks to Randy for trying to help with my V16 Web Search problem. I took his suggestion for cleaning out temporary files but it didn't seem to make any difference. A call to Ancestry informed me that I should e-mail since they not longer offer phone support for V16. The e-mail response received from my written query was that I should try to register/register my V16. I did so but that just made things go from bad to worse! Not only did it not solve the Web Search problem but, in addition, I now get an endless loop asking me to register. When I do so again (and again, and again, on & on!), I get an e-mail "Welcome to past.familytreemaker.com" but with each subsequent attempt at Web Search, the same pop-up that I should register! I have my original V16 installation disk and am wondering if it would be helpful to try installing again. However, I have no idea how to go about that as getting it to install on my Windows 7 64-bit machine was a challenge even "back when" and would have been impossible without Courtney's patient assistance. Another concern re uninstalling/reinstalling is how to get my several files (a couple are quite large!) to transfer without an earlier version on my computer from which to migrate the info. Does anyone know if that can be done successfully once the old Version is uninstalled -- or is it possible to simply reinstall over the current V16? ANY suggestions from any of the expert listers here would be MOST appreciated! Pat ------ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 05:58:28 -0500 From: Randy <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Version 16 Web Search not working ([email protected]) > > Message: 3 > My old faithful workhorse FTM Version 16 has been stable and working > perfectly until a couple of weeks ago. It continues to work fine in every > aspect except for the Web Search. Sure hope someone can help. > > Here is what happens: > 1. When I click Web Search Resources, it does seem to switch over > to start the search but progress with the blue bar stops BEFORE > completing one run. > 2. It then abruptly switches to a page that shows "Please Wait" > just above a box with magnifying glass moving back and forth. Below > that are the > words "Your search results are being retrieved." > 3. Unfortunately, nothing is ever retrieved and that page stays with the > magnifying glass moving indefinitely. I've let it run for over an > hour with the same result. Previously, retrieving was instantaneous > as was merging > the selected records. I don't have the blue bar and waiting problem you do, but occasionally, the search screen comes up blank. Very scary the first time it happened. Close and backup your family file. Have you tried cleaning the temp file? If you know how to "run", you can use that OR Go to Start, bottom left corner and in the little box directly above, type %temp%\ftw hit enter. Then go to Organize, select all, hit the delete button on your keyboard. Close that window. Works for me every time. Randy -------------- ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Randy for trying to help with my V16 Web Search problem. I took his suggestion for cleaning out temporary files but it didn't seem to make any difference. A call to Ancestry informed me that I should e-mail since they not longer offer phone support for V16. The e-mail response received from my written query was that I should try to register/register my V16. I did so but that just made things go from bad to worse! Not only did it not solve the Web Search problem but, in addition, I now get an endless loop asking me to register. When I do so again (and again, and again, on & on!), I get an e-mail "Welcome to past.familytreemaker.com" but with each subsequent attempt at Web Search, the same pop-up that I should register! I have my original V16 installation disk and am wondering if it would be helpful to try installing again. However, I have no idea how to go about that as getting it to install on my Windows 7 64-bit machine was a challenge even "back when" and would have been impossible without Courtney's patient assistance. Another concern re uninstalling/reinstalling is how to get my several files (a couple are quite large!) to transfer without an earlier version on my computer from which to migrate the info. Does anyone know if that can be done successfully once the old Version is uninstalled -- or is it possible to simply reinstall over the current V16? ANY suggestions from any of the expert listers here would be MOST appreciated! Pat ------ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 05:58:28 -0500 From: Randy <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Version 16 Web Search not working ([email protected]) > > Message: 3 > My old faithful workhorse FTM Version 16 has been stable and working > perfectly until a couple of weeks ago. It continues to work fine in every > aspect except for the Web Search. Sure hope someone can help. > > Here is what happens: > 1. When I click Web Search Resources, it does seem to switch over to > start the search but progress with the blue bar stops BEFORE completing one run. > 2. It then abruptly switches to a page that shows "Please Wait" just > above a box with magnifying glass moving back and forth. Below that are the > words "Your search results are being retrieved." > 3. Unfortunately, nothing is ever retrieved and that page stays with the > magnifying glass moving indefinitely. I've let it run for over an hour > with the same result. Previously, retrieving was instantaneous as was merging > the selected records. I don't have the blue bar and waiting problem you do, but occasionally, the search screen comes up blank. Very scary the first time it happened. Close and backup your family file. Have you tried cleaning the temp file? If you know how to "run", you can use that OR Go to Start, bottom left corner and in the little box directly above, type %temp%\ftw hit enter. Then go to Organize, select all, hit the delete button on your keyboard. Close that window. Works for me every time. Randy --------------