I am somewhat confused (a common state of mind, for me) by some of the England Census location details. Taking the various years, there are quite a few localities listed on a Census: Civil Parish Hundred Town Registration District Sub-registration District I live in a town called Allansford, in the state of Victoria in Australia, so the location equates quite easily to Allansford, Victoria, Australia. But, I am not knowledgeable enough toe decipher the above English examples. Should the order of precedence be (let's say, the County is Cornwall and the Country, obviously England Town, Hundred, Civil Parish, Sub-registration District, Registration District, Cornwall, England; or Civil Parish, Town, Hundred, Sub-registration District, Registration District, Cornwall, England; or Sub-registration District, Registration District, , Hundred, Town, Civil Parish, Cornwall, England; or some other permutation (but going from lowest denominator to the highest). Hope someone can help me sort out this confusion before I have entered too many locations in the wrong order. Regards, Ian MARR at 38° 24' 01.299" S by 142° 34' 11.9094" E; 11m above sea level This message can be considered to be in the public domain. The home of SW Victorian Cemetery indexes: http://www.ianmarr.net.au/ Allansford Weather (10 min updates): http://www.ianmarr.net.au/Weather/ Family Tree: http://marrwatts.tribalpages.com/ Remember, to EVERY question in life, there is MORE than ONE correct answer.

Hi Ian If Australia had any surviving census I suspect you would be facing the same dilemma there ;-) You have to take into account the census year for a start The 1841 was the only one organised by Hundred It also depends on how much detail you keep on the census reference and how Different suppliers or transcribers may also record locations in a different way I keep only the year ie 1861 census and then keep the reference with the source and in notes for each person The actual address or method of address is up to you, many census here in particular the earlier ones and in rural locations do not record a specific address, only "Village" or similar To add further confusion you may find the census 1851 and later whilst being in one County geographically, because the administrative area might be different may be enumerated in a neighbouring County So my advice would be to record the census reference and the census administrative area data as found Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/02/2014 05:27, Ian Marr wrote: > I am somewhat confused (a common state of mind, for me) by some of the > England Census location details. Taking the various years, there are quite > a few localities listed on a Census: > > Civil Parish > Hundred > Town > Registration District > Sub-registration District > > I live in a town called Allansford, in the state of Victoria in Australia, > so the location equates quite easily to Allansford, Victoria, Australia. > > But, I am not knowledgeable enough toe decipher the above English examples. > > Should the order of precedence be (let's say, the County is Cornwall and the > Country, obviously England

Is this in response to an Update notice? In a message dated 2/24/2014 3:16:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Only FTM asks this. Nancy On 2/24/2014 2:12 PM, Ole P. Bielefeldt wrote: > It is a "safety precation" from your new operating system. > > It is the same for all programs you start. > > Ole > > > 2014-02-24 21:06 GMT+01:00 Nancy<[email protected]>: > >> When I open FTM on my laptop computer (Windows 7) it always asks this: >> >> ================================================= >> Do you want to allow the following program from an unknown >> publisher to make changes to this computer? >> Program name FTM.exe >> Publisher Unknown >> File Origin Hard Drive on this computer >> ================================================= >> >> I'm wondering what this is. It never asked this on my old computer, an >> XP. If I say no, I can't access the program; so I have to say yes. >> I'm using the icon on the desktop to log on. >> >> Nancy >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> Version 2008 - 2012 >> http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Barry I can't vouch for the workings of Ancestry internal email systems but you are perhaps assuming to much ie that those who put their tree online actually keep up an interest I have rarely received a reply from people with trees online , Ancestry or other sites, when you check you will often find these people have not accessed their trees for over 12 months In other words they try some research, enter a tree, lose interest, change email address etc etc If you let me know one of your more unusual names I can try and find it and send you a message as a tester Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/02/2014 14:46, Barry S. Finkel wrote: > I have a question that related to ancestry.com and not about FTM. > Has any of you gotten mail on ancestry (e.g., in response to someone > seeing your online tree) and then received a notification from > ancestry to your regular e-mail address that you had ancestry mail > waiting in your ancestry inbox? I believe that the notifications > are not being sent, but others tell me that my spam filters must be > filtering the mail. I need evidence that the ancestry notifications > are still being sent. The last one I received was in 2012. As a > test last week I sent ancestry mail to a friend, and she did not

This is caused by the fact that FTM has not bought and paid for the proper Authentication. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Arnold E. Krause 1611 Arlington Ave., Saskatoon, Sask., CANADA, S7H 2Y6 Tel: (306) 374-3348 email address: [email protected] Homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/arnie-krause/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ole P. Bielefeldt Sent: 24 February, 2014 2:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] Question About Opening FTM 2011 It is a "safety precation" from your new operating system. It is the same for all programs you start. Ole 2014-02-24 21:06 GMT+01:00 Nancy <[email protected]>: > When I open FTM on my laptop computer (Windows 7) it always asks this: > > ================================================= > Do you want to allow the following program from an unknown publisher > to make changes to this computer? > Program name FTM.exe > Publisher Unknown > File Origin Hard Drive on this computer > ================================================= > > I'm wondering what this is. It never asked this on my old computer, an > XP. If I say no, I can't access the program; so I have to say yes. > I'm using the icon on the desktop to log on. > > Nancy > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Ole P. Bielefeldt www.familytreemaker.dk ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Only FTM asks this. Nancy On 2/24/2014 2:12 PM, Ole P. Bielefeldt wrote: > It is a "safety precation" from your new operating system. > > It is the same for all programs you start. > > Ole > > > 2014-02-24 21:06 GMT+01:00 Nancy<[email protected]>: > >> When I open FTM on my laptop computer (Windows 7) it always asks this: >> >> ================================================= >> Do you want to allow the following program from an unknown >> publisher to make changes to this computer? >> Program name FTM.exe >> Publisher Unknown >> File Origin Hard Drive on this computer >> ================================================= >> >> I'm wondering what this is. It never asked this on my old computer, an >> XP. If I say no, I can't access the program; so I have to say yes. >> I'm using the icon on the desktop to log on. >> >> Nancy >> ********************************** >> List information page >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html >> >> Version 2008 - 2012 >> http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

When I open FTM on my laptop computer (Windows 7) it always asks this: ================================================= Do you want to allow the following program from an unknown publisher to make changes to this computer? Program name FTM.exe Publisher Unknown File Origin Hard Drive on this computer ================================================= I'm wondering what this is. It never asked this on my old computer, an XP. If I say no, I can't access the program; so I have to say yes. I'm using the icon on the desktop to log on. Nancy

I'm using FTM 2011, Windows 7: I'm looking at a PW on the Family Screen. PW is the child. CB is the mother. There is no father for PW or husband for CB. But the father and husband - JW - is a person in my person list. JW shows CB as his wife but does not show PW as his child. How can I connect these people? CB is only listed once in the index. Thanks, Nancy

I no longer have FTM 2011 installed so my comments may need a little interpreting. It sounds as though CB may have two relationship records. You can verify this by going to CB's record in the Family Work area. Look at her record in the bottom middle panel. You should see her record indicating 2 spouses. One should be JW and the other no spouse. If this is true, I think this will correct the problem. 1. Select the No Spouse relationship which should have the child, PW. 2. Enter a name for the husband. Use something link J1W 3. You should now be on the Family work area for J1W 4. In the Menu list, Click Person 5. Select Merge two specific individuals 6. A list will open, browse to and select JW 7. Click OK and answer any questions. 8. This should merge the child PW to the family for JW and CB. 9. It should also remove the spouseless relationship for CB so she should only have one spouse at this time. 10. To to the record for PW and click the Person tab. 11. Change the view to Relationship 12. Examine the relationship between PW and JW to ensure it is Natural. Also review the relationship between PW an CB to ensure it is Natural. Hope this helps. BJ On 2/24/2014 11:49 AM, Nancy wrote: > I'm using FTM 2011, Windows 7: > > I'm looking at a PW on the Family Screen. > > PW is the child. CB is the mother. There is no father for PW or > husband for CB. But the father and husband - JW - is a person in my > person list. JW shows CB as his wife but does not show PW as his child. > > How can I connect these people? CB is only listed once in the index. > > Thanks, Nancy > > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm not sure why you are seeing this as I've never seen this when FTM is opening a file. As others have said, it is from the operating system not FTM. It normally occurs anything a program is making a change to the operating system such as updating or installing a program. Where is you file stored? If the data file is stored in a subfolder under C:\Programs, this is probably the cause. Windows 7 uses the C:\Program folder for executable applications. If the data file is in that folder, it thinks you are attempting to change an application. If this is happening, the best way of correcting this is to 1. Use FTM 2011 to make a backup of the data files including all media items. 2. Create a new folder either separately or if you want under the C:\Documents folder. I suggest a folder named C:\Documents\FTM Data. 3. Use FTM 2011 to restore the backup file to this new folder. This will ensure the links to the media items are changed to the new folder. 4. Once you have ensured the new file is working and correct, you can use FTM 2011 to delete the old data file and remove the link from the Tree list on the Plan work area. That is the only thing I can think of which may be causing this message. BJ On 2/24/2014 12:06 PM, Nancy wrote: > When I open FTM on my laptop computer (Windows 7) it always asks this: > > ================================================= > Do you want to allow the following program from an unknown > publisher to make changes to this computer? > Program name FTM.exe > Publisher Unknown > File Origin Hard Drive on this computer > ================================================= > > I'm wondering what this is. It never asked this on my old computer, an > XP. If I say no, I can't access the program; so I have to say yes. > I'm using the icon on the desktop to log on.

I've just noticed last week that I have not received any e-mail notifications when queries were posted either. Earl -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barry S. Finkel Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FTM-TECH] Ancestry Mail Notification I have a question that related to ancestry.com and not about FTM. Has any of you gotten mail on ancestry (e.g., in response to someone seeing your online tree) and then received a notification from ancestry to your regular e-mail address that you had ancestry mail waiting in your ancestry inbox? I believe that the notifications are not being sent, but others tell me that my spam filters must be filtering the mail. I need evidence that the ancestry notifications are still being sent. The last one I received was in 2012. As a test last week I sent ancestry mail to a friend, and she did not receive any notification. Another person to whom I sent ancestry mail (in response to an online tree) replied and said that she saw my mail on ancestry, not via an ancestry notification. The reason I ask is simple. I look on ancestry and I see a tree that contains persons who are also in my tree. I then send ancestry mail to the tree owner, and 90+% of the time I get no response. I assume that people put their trees online so that they can get comments from persons who view the online trees. My contention is that these people are not ignoring my mail; they just are not in the habit of logging on to ancestry regularly to check for ancestry mail. And without a notification from ancestry, they have no idea that they have mail in their ancestry inbox. Thanks. --Barry Finkel Chicago ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, I get messages from ancestry about on-line messages regularly. In a message dated 2/24/2014 9:55:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have a question that related to ancestry.com and not about FTM. Has any of you gotten mail on ancestry (e.g., in response to someone seeing your online tree) and then received a notification from ancestry to your regular e-mail address that you had ancestry mail waiting in your ancestry inbox? I believe that the notifications are not being sent, but others tell me that my spam filters must be filtering the mail. I need evidence that the ancestry notifications are still being sent. The last one I received was in 2012. As a test last week I sent ancestry mail to a friend, and she did not receive any notification. Another person to whom I sent ancestry mail (in response to an online tree) replied and said that she saw my mail on ancestry, not via an ancestry notification. The reason I ask is simple. I look on ancestry and I see a tree that contains persons who are also in my tree. I then send ancestry mail to the tree owner, and 90+% of the time I get no response. I assume that people put their trees online so that they can get comments from persons who view the online trees. My contention is that these people are not ignoring my mail; they just are not in the habit of logging on to ancestry regularly to check for ancestry mail. And without a notification from ancestry, they have no idea that they have mail in their ancestry inbox. Thanks. --Barry Finkel Chicago ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have had a number of messages posted to my Ancestry.com subscriber account but I don't remember ever receiving an email notification. I normally notice these as "new messages" count on FTM 2014's Plan work area in the Dashboard area. I just looked at Ancestry.com Knowledge Base where it describes the different options for how to contact members. This may explain why some receive email notifications while others such as yourself and me do not. I've copied the information below. As you can see, I exercise the first option and don't receive any email notifications. BJ From Ancestry.com's Knowledge Base; *Connection Preferences* Don't miss out on chances to make important connections with other people who appear to have research interests similar to yours. Just imagine: you could discover a relative you never knew you had. How would you like to be contacted by other Ancestry members? Learn More <javascript:hidePop('whyContactPopup');javascript:showPop('howContactPopup')> Close <javascript:hidePop('howContactPopup');> ** Anonymously through Ancestry's online Messages feature (recommended). This setting ensures that no other member can see your email address or other contact information unless you share it directly with them. Easily view and organize your messages online on Ancestry. Display my email address to other members. Others on the site can view your email address and contact you directly. *Current Email Address:* *[email protected]* change email address <https://secure.ancestry.com/myaccount/changeemail.aspx>. Do not allow other members to contact me *NOTE:* It is highly recommended that you NOT select this option. This will prevent any other researchers with similar interests or possible family members from contacting you. We recommend using the first option above so that others can contact you anonymously through Ancestry’s online Message feature. You may also block certain people <https://secure.ancestry.com/myaccount/cbblock.aspx> from contacting you. On 2/24/2014 6:46 AM, Barry S. Finkel wrote: > I have a question that related to ancestry.com and not about FTM. > Has any of you gotten mail on ancestry (e.g., in response to someone > seeing your online tree) and then received a notification from > ancestry to your regular e-mail address that you had ancestry mail > waiting in your ancestry inbox? I believe that the notifications > are not being sent, but others tell me that my spam filters must be > filtering the mail. I need evidence that the ancestry notifications > are still being sent. The last one I received was in 2012. As a > test last week I sent ancestry mail to a friend, and she did not > receive any notification. Another person to whom I sent ancestry > mail (in response to an online tree) replied and said that she saw > my mail on ancestry, not via an ancestry notification. > > The reason I ask is simple. I look on ancestry and I see a tree that > contains persons who are also in my tree. I then send ancestry mail > to the tree owner, and 90+% of the time I get no response. I assume > that people put their trees online so that they can get comments > from persons who view the online trees. My contention is that these > people are not ignoring my mail; they just are not in the habit of > logging on to ancestry regularly to check for ancestry mail. And > without a notification from ancestry, they have no idea that they have > mail in their ancestry inbox. > > Thanks. > > --Barry Finkel > Chicago > ********************************** > List information page > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html > > Version 2008 - 2012 > http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have a question that related to ancestry.com and not about FTM. Has any of you gotten mail on ancestry (e.g., in response to someone seeing your online tree) and then received a notification from ancestry to your regular e-mail address that you had ancestry mail waiting in your ancestry inbox? I believe that the notifications are not being sent, but others tell me that my spam filters must be filtering the mail. I need evidence that the ancestry notifications are still being sent. The last one I received was in 2012. As a test last week I sent ancestry mail to a friend, and she did not receive any notification. Another person to whom I sent ancestry mail (in response to an online tree) replied and said that she saw my mail on ancestry, not via an ancestry notification. The reason I ask is simple. I look on ancestry and I see a tree that contains persons who are also in my tree. I then send ancestry mail to the tree owner, and 90+% of the time I get no response. I assume that people put their trees online so that they can get comments from persons who view the online trees. My contention is that these people are not ignoring my mail; they just are not in the habit of logging on to ancestry regularly to check for ancestry mail. And without a notification from ancestry, they have no idea that they have mail in their ancestry inbox. Thanks. --Barry Finkel Chicago

At 11:51 PM 21-02-14 -0800, BJ wrote: >I agree that the panels should be resizable. My comment was directed >more toward the characterization of the sizes between the two panels. >It may be caused by the resolution of your screen but the ratios between >the two panels is not 2:1. I'm pretty sure they are sized from the top >of the screen area. To get more of the dashboard, lengthen the window. >This is true of all work areas. If you shorten the window too much, you >begin losing area from the bottom first. I have a 24" diagonal wide screen. It's quite large is ample for my purposes. The recommended Windows resolution for my monitor is 1920 x 1080. I seldom have FTM open full-screen. Rather, I place it on the right side of my screen (Win+Right Arrow), and have another window positioned on the left (Win+Left Arrow), such as Ancestry, photos, files, email, or some other object or web page. In Full-Screen (or full half-screen), the ratio between the Task Panel and the Web Dashboard on my desktop is 5:2. If I draw the FTM window down (or up), the Task panel reduces in size. But the Ancestry Web Dashboard remains the same. What I want is the ability to enlarge the Dashboard vertically so the small windows within the Dashboard can be enlarged. I don't need a large Tasks workspace, I do need a larger Dashboard. Is that asking too much? - I think not. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Maynard Phillip Island, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed."

At 04:54 PM 21-02-14 -0800, BJ wrote: >I'm sorry but I don't understand the problem. ... FTM 2014 on the >other hand, the dashboard and the Task area are the same width which >is approximately 4/5 the width of the window. The Task area is >slightly higher than the Dashboard but only about 1/6 larger. The >big loser in space between FTM 2012 and FTM 2014 ... The winners in >FTM 2014 are the Tree Sync area and About This Family Tree area, >both are narrower but taller and the Dashboard which is slightly >shorter but much wider. The Tree selection area has been removed >from the static display in the FTM 2014 Plan work area but >redesigned into a drop down window available in any work area. >Personally, I think the new design is much better use of the >landscape than FTM 2012. Just my 2 cents worth. BJ Hello BJ. What I want are resizable windows in Plan. It doesn't matter whether I maximize the FTM window or not. Ancestry Web Dashboard in FTM-2014 hides too many items. I want more real estate space because I want to see more items, such as Ancestry Community messages and Member Connect Activity and Links. These windows within Dashboard are so tiny they're useless. My complaint is not the left panel (that's okay), but the right panel where Tasks take up more than 2/3 of the real estate and Ancestry Web Dashboard has less than 1/3. There's not enough space in Dashboard to work with. I don't have 'a ton' of tasks to do. I'd like to move the border up to give me a larger Dashboard, but there's no way to do it. People - Places - Media - Sources - Publish all have adjustable windows. Why not Plan ??? John M. >On 2/21/2014 4:06 PM, Rosemary Jones wrote: > > No way that I can figure. It's a royal PITA. > > > > John Maynard wrote: > >> Okay. Here's an issue that's bugging me. > >> FTM-2014's Dashboard has a different layout from 2012. It's found > >> under 'Plan' and consumes but one third of the main panel while the > >> 'Tasks' window above takes up two-thirds of the real estate. > >> > >> I'd like to resize the Dashboard so I can view more items, but I > >> can't find any way to do it. Any suggestions? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Maynard Phillip Island, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed."

At 06:06 PM 21-02-14 -0600, Rosemary Jones wrote: >No way that I can figure. It's a royal PITA. >Rosemary Yes, all the other windows within FTM (People, Places, Media, etc) are adjustable except the Dashboard in 'Plan View' - John M. >On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:27 PM, John Maynard <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Okay. Here's an issue that's bugging me. > > FTM-2014's Dashboard has a different layout from 2012. It's found > > under 'Plan' and consumes but one third of the main panel while the > > 'Tasks' window above takes up two-thirds of the real estate. > > I'd like to resize the Dashboard so I can view more items, but I > > can't find any way to do it. Any suggestions? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Maynard Phillip Island, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed."

Okay. Here's an issue that's bugging me. FTM-2014's Dashboard has a different layout from 2012. It's found under 'Plan' and consumes but one third of the main panel while the 'Tasks' window above takes up two-thirds of the real estate. I'd like to resize the Dashboard so I can view more items, but I can't find any way to do it. Any suggestions? John in Oz. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Maynard Phillip Island, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Let there be Peace on Earth, Justice and Prosperity ... ... and an End to Violence, Poverty and Greed."

I think that you are referring to Ahenentafal numbers in a report. If you do a report where you are the starting person then you are person #1, yor father is 32 and your mother #3 then their parents are #4 for your parental grand-father, his wife is #5 and your maternal grand-father is #6 and his wife is #7. This numbering system keeps on generation after generation and if you have many generations then the numbers become very large and have no connection to the number of people in your database. Just going up your paternal side, the numbers are: 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192..... and keep doubling for every generation. At 10 generation you have 2 to the power 10 and at 40 generation you would have 2 to the power of 40 which is 1.099511628 x10 to the 12th Cheers, Arnie ------------------------------------------------------------------- Arnold E. Krause 1611 Arlington Ave., Saskatoon, Sask., CANADA, S7H 2Y6 Tel: (306) 374-3348 email address: [email protected] Homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/arnie-krause/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred & Marie Sent: 21 February, 2014 10:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 all in one chart and reindexing database Hi John, I did not manually enter any personal ID numbers. I figured out how to delete all person Ids automatically by creating a new fact and changing the person lD to the new fact. Then deleting the new fact. I want to only use the automatic person Id. In FTM 2014 You can edit the automatic generated Person ID # and make it private by clicking on the pencil to the right of the grayed number. Now how do I fix the problem with the numbers in below as I only have 120000 people in the database and in the report every person has a number, how can the numbers be higher than 120000. Note the number 14752570713534 for Charlemagne Carolingian. Also note 59010282854136. i. Charles Martel. I never had numbers like this in older versions of FTM. 198664. Thomas Thornton. Thomas Thornton had the following child: 99332. i. Thomas Thornton. 198674. John de Dineley. John de Dineley had the following child: 99337. i. Margery Dyneley. She married Walter de Calvery. 209920. John De Bolling. He married Grace Papeley. 209921. Grace Papeley. Grace Papeley and John De Bolling had the following child: 49664. i. Robert de Bolling. He married Margaret Thornoe. 209922. Thomas Thornoe. Thomas Thornoe had the following child: 49665. i. Margaret Thornoe. She married Robert de Bolling. 14752570713534. Charlemagne Carolingian, son of Pepin the Short and Bertrada of Laon, was born in 747 AD in Herstal, Belgium. He died on Jan 28, 814 AD in Aachen, Germany. He married Hildegard. 14752570713535. Hildegard was born in 758 AD. She died in 783 AD. Plectrude and Pepin of Herstal had the following child: 59010282854136. i. Charles Martel was born on Aug 23, 686 AD I would still like to generate an all-in-one chart to a PDF file. Thanks Fred -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Donaldson Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 all in one chart and reindexing database Go into Tools>Options>References and turn on the ID numbers FTM Help Notes Options: References The References tab in the Options dialog box lets you set up automatic reference numbering of the Person ID and Relationship ID facts for each record in your tree. The Person ID and Relationship ID facts provide a way for you to record a reference number for a person or relationship. You can enter values in these fields manually or enable Family Tree Maker to assign them automatically. When you enable the automatic reference numbers for an ID fact, a reference number is added to each record to which you have not assigned a reference number manually. You can enable automatic Person ID and Relationship ID numbering separately. Manually entered reference numbers A manually entered reference number can include any alphanumeric characters and does not need to be unique in the tree. You do not need to enter a reference number for each record or relationship; however, reference numbers can be helpful when searching for a record or identifying a person. You can include as many manually entered reference numbers as you want and can replace an automatically generated reference number with a manually entered reference number (see To edit an automatically generated reference number). Automatically entered reference numbers Family Tree Maker does not automatically assign reference numbers unless you have specified for it to do so in the References tab of the Options dialog box. Numbering begins with the first record in the database and incrementally assigns reference numbers according to the options you specify. There can be only one automatically entered reference number per person or relationship. If you delete all manually entered references, and automatic reference numbering is enabled, Family Tree Maker automatically assigns a reference number to the person or relationship. Because you can assign reference numbers manually to a person or relationship, Family Tree Maker follows distinct guidelines regarding reference numbers: .You can identify an automatically generated reference number from the gray background and lack of Options menu. When you click the number, an Edit Reference Number button appears. .Manual reference numbers always override automatic reference numbers. .Enabling automatic reference numbers does not overwrite existing manual reference numbers. .If you have added a Person ID or Relationship ID fact to a record but left it blank, an automatically generated reference number will NOT replace that reference number. You must remove the fact to enable automatic reference numbering for that record. .You cannot mark an automatic reference number as Preferred or Private. .You can mark a manual reference number as Preferred or Private. .You cannot include fact properties, sources, media, or notes with an automatically generated reference number. .You cannot delete an automatically generated Person ID or Relationship ID fact. .Automatic reference numbers are unique among themselves but can be identical to existing manual reference numbers. .When viewing Fact Data Options for Person ID or Relationship ID facts, only manual reference numbers are listed for All individuals. Automatically generated reference numbers will not be included. .When you disable automatic reference numbers, the automatic reference numbers are removed from all records. Manual Reference IDs are not removed. .Reference numbers (both automatic and manual) are NOT included in any of the exports John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred & Marie Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2014 4:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 all in one chart and reindexing database What I want is what was available in earlier versions of FTM that allowed you to generate a tree going back as far as you wanted in a tree with every one of your grandparents on one screen. Then create a PDF file that you can send to someone and they can pan around the tree not to print it. If you use the book option for the it will produce all the ancestors but on hundreds of different pages. Under options it allows me to pick a PDF driver and it is Adobe, but I can pick others like snagit and one note Older versions allowed you to reindex. Under a individuals personal information is Person Id number. On reindexing the file I mean the personal ID numbering assigned to each individual. I created a ahnentafel report and every one appears to be numbered correctly until about page 241 of 340 then the numbers jump to 147000, 2m, 4m, 6m , 18m, 78m, 156m, 313m . I only have 120,952 people in my database. For example Matilda Atheling of Scotland is listed as 80353188331 but if you go to this person there is NO ID number for her. This person I manually added the other day. If I go to Tools, Options, Reference and select Use individual reference numbers it then places a ID number 120409 for her but not in the report. Unchecking using individual reference numbers removes the ID for only the people that did not have the personal Id number which is about half the people in the database. How do I get the numbers corrected if you can't reindex the file in FTM 2014? What it looks like to me is that everyone I have added after the import to FTM 2014 is missing the personal ID number. 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I wonder if you're looking at Ahnentafel numbers instead of ID numbers. If you are looking at a pedigree chart or Ahnentafel report, that's what you would get. By definition, Ahnentafel numbers double with each generation. The root person is 1. Double that to get the father; add 1 to the father to get the mother: 2 and 3. Do the same to each of the parents to get the grandparents: 4, 5, 6, and 7, continuing in the same manner for all the generations you have. Since each generation has twice as many people as the one before, the numbers are exponential and get large very quickly. The highest Ahnentafel number will be larger than the number of names you have because this numbering system creates a number for every possible person in every generation of your pedigree, whether you know their names or not. If you click the box to include the reference numbers in a pedigree chart, these are the numbers you will see. I haven't done the math all the way back to Charlemagne, but I would expect the numbers to be large. You will get to 1000 in 10 generations (2 to the 10th power). These numbers are not permanently assigned. They are calculated based on the root person. If you change the root person, he/she becomes #1 and all the other generations are recalculated accordingly. Maybe this will explain what you're seeing. Judy in Ocala Sent from my iPhone On Feb 21, 2014, at 11:23 PM, "Fred & Marie" <[email protected]> wrote: Hi John, I did not manually enter any personal ID numbers. I figured out how to delete all person Ids automatically by creating a new fact and changing the person lD to the new fact. Then deleting the new fact. I want to only use the automatic person Id. In FTM 2014 You can edit the automatic generated Person ID # and make it private by clicking on the pencil to the right of the grayed number. Now how do I fix the problem with the numbers in below as I only have 120000 people in the database and in the report every person has a number, how can the numbers be higher than 120000. Note the number 14752570713534 for Charlemagne Carolingian. Also note 59010282854136. i. Charles Martel. I never had numbers like this in older versions of FTM. 198664. Thomas Thornton. Thomas Thornton had the following child: 99332. i. Thomas Thornton. 198674. John de Dineley. John de Dineley had the following child: 99337. i. Margery Dyneley. She married Walter de Calvery. 209920. John De Bolling. He married Grace Papeley. 209921. Grace Papeley. Grace Papeley and John De Bolling had the following child: 49664. i. Robert de Bolling. He married Margaret Thornoe. 209922. Thomas Thornoe. Thomas Thornoe had the following child: 49665. i. Margaret Thornoe. She married Robert de Bolling. 14752570713534. Charlemagne Carolingian, son of Pepin the Short and Bertrada of Laon, was born in 747 AD in Herstal, Belgium. He died on Jan 28, 814 AD in Aachen, Germany. He married Hildegard. 14752570713535. Hildegard was born in 758 AD. She died in 783 AD. Plectrude and Pepin of Herstal had the following child: 59010282854136. i. Charles Martel was born on Aug 23, 686 AD I would still like to generate an all-in-one chart to a PDF file. Thanks Fred -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Donaldson Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 1:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 all in one chart and reindexing database Go into Tools>Options>References and turn on the ID numbers FTM Help Notes Options: References The References tab in the Options dialog box lets you set up automatic reference numbering of the Person ID and Relationship ID facts for each record in your tree. The Person ID and Relationship ID facts provide a way for you to record a reference number for a person or relationship. You can enter values in these fields manually or enable Family Tree Maker to assign them automatically. When you enable the automatic reference numbers for an ID fact, a reference number is added to each record to which you have not assigned a reference number manually. You can enable automatic Person ID and Relationship ID numbering separately. Manually entered reference numbers A manually entered reference number can include any alphanumeric characters and does not need to be unique in the tree. You do not need to enter a reference number for each record or relationship; however, reference numbers can be helpful when searching for a record or identifying a person. You can include as many manually entered reference numbers as you want and can replace an automatically generated reference number with a manually entered reference number (see To edit an automatically generated reference number). Automatically entered reference numbers Family Tree Maker does not automatically assign reference numbers unless you have specified for it to do so in the References tab of the Options dialog box. Numbering begins with the first record in the database and incrementally assigns reference numbers according to the options you specify. There can be only one automatically entered reference number per person or relationship. If you delete all manually entered references, and automatic reference numbering is enabled, Family Tree Maker automatically assigns a reference number to the person or relationship. Because you can assign reference numbers manually to a person or relationship, Family Tree Maker follows distinct guidelines regarding reference numbers: .You can identify an automatically generated reference number from the gray background and lack of Options menu. When you click the number, an Edit Reference Number button appears. .Manual reference numbers always override automatic reference numbers. .Enabling automatic reference numbers does not overwrite existing manual reference numbers. .If you have added a Person ID or Relationship ID fact to a record but left it blank, an automatically generated reference number will NOT replace that reference number. You must remove the fact to enable automatic reference numbering for that record. .You cannot mark an automatic reference number as Preferred or Private. .You can mark a manual reference number as Preferred or Private. .You cannot include fact properties, sources, media, or notes with an automatically generated reference number. .You cannot delete an automatically generated Person ID or Relationship ID fact. .Automatic reference numbers are unique among themselves but can be identical to existing manual reference numbers. .When viewing Fact Data Options for Person ID or Relationship ID facts, only manual reference numbers are listed for All individuals. Automatically generated reference numbers will not be included. .When you disable automatic reference numbers, the automatic reference numbers are removed from all records. Manual Reference IDs are not removed. .Reference numbers (both automatic and manual) are NOT included in any of the exports John D -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred & Marie Sent: Wednesday, 19 February 2014 4:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FTM-TECH] FTM 2014 all in one chart and reindexing database What I want is what was available in earlier versions of FTM that allowed you to generate a tree going back as far as you wanted in a tree with every one of your grandparents on one screen. Then create a PDF file that you can send to someone and they can pan around the tree not to print it. If you use the book option for the it will produce all the ancestors but on hundreds of different pages. Under options it allows me to pick a PDF driver and it is Adobe, but I can pick others like snagit and one note Older versions allowed you to reindex. Under a individuals personal information is Person Id number. On reindexing the file I mean the personal ID numbering assigned to each individual. I created a ahnentafel report and every one appears to be numbered correctly until about page 241 of 340 then the numbers jump to 147000, 2m, 4m, 6m , 18m, 78m, 156m, 313m . I only have 120,952 people in my database. For example Matilda Atheling of Scotland is listed as 80353188331 but if you go to this person there is NO ID number for her. This person I manually added the other day. If I go to Tools, Options, Reference and select Use individual reference numbers it then places a ID number 120409 for her but not in the report. Unchecking using individual reference numbers removes the ID for only the people that did not have the personal Id number which is about half the people in the database. How do I get the numbers corrected if you can't reindex the file in FTM 2014? What it looks like to me is that everyone I have added after the import to FTM 2014 is missing the personal ID number. Thanks for the help Fred ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ********************************** List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Version 2008 - 2012 http://ancestry.custhelp.com/app/home ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message