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    1. Re: [FRONGOCH-WALES] New Member and Imagery
    2. Emily
    3. Greetings, Cousin! I desc. from Evan Robert Lewis via son Evan ab Evan who had four children come to America. I connect to his daughter Sarah. I have been to Frongoch, the town and have spent the night at Fferm Fron Goch, our ancestor's home. It was a B & B then. The person who lives there runs her B&B across the road next to a field which was once the old whiskey distillery and then later the North prison for Frongoch where Michael Collins and other Irish were housed. Thanks for the update on Google, etc. Emily List Admin http://www.rootsweb.com/~orgco2/speaker/EmilyAulicino.html http://genealem-geneticgenealogy.blogspot.com/ Northwest Regional Coordinator and Speaker for ISOGG (www.isogg.org) Administrator for ten FTDNA DNA Projects ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathaniel James" <nkjmapman@gmail.com> To: <FRONGOCH-WALES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: [FRONGOCH-WALES] New Member and Imagery > Descent from Evan Robert Lewis: > 1. Evan Robert Lewis > 2. Owen ap Evan (brother of Evan ap Evan) > 3. Robert Owen > 4. John Owen > 5. Rebecca Owen > 5. Hannah Maris > 6. William Hunter > 7. Edward Hunter > 8. Mary Ann Hunter > 9. Leah Barrus > 10. Dale Froelich > 11. Melissa Froelich > 12. Nathaniel James > > Also for everyone's information, I thought everyone should know that there > is a free program called Google Earth. It was recently updated so that > you > can see all of Wales in detail. Google Earth also is three dimensional, > so > you can look at the terrain too. If you look at Frongoch, you can see all > the buildings, trees, hedges, powerlines, and even the white lines on the > roads. I thought I could see a ruin, but it may have just been a sheep > pen. > Anyways, the point is that you can see lots of stuff you can't see on the > ground, and you can see it wherever you have an internet connection. You > can download it at www.earth.google.com > > Microsoft has a free program called Virtual Earth, which is similar, but > doesn't have as high quality in Wales. www.magic.gov.uk has high-detailed > topographical maps for free, showing most of the buildings. The Royal > Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Wales can be found > at > http://www.rcahmw.gov.uk/HI/ENG/Home/. It has high-detailed maps and > contains information on lots and lots of historical things including Fron > Goch (the dwelling). I thought these would be helpful sites for > researching > our ancestors. > > Nathaniel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FRONGOCH-WALES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008 > 11:31 AM >

    04/19/2008 12:32:05
    1. [FRONGOCH-WALES] New Member and Imagery
    2. Nathaniel James
    3. Descent from Evan Robert Lewis: 1. Evan Robert Lewis 2. Owen ap Evan (brother of Evan ap Evan) 3. Robert Owen 4. John Owen 5. Rebecca Owen 5. Hannah Maris 6. William Hunter 7. Edward Hunter 8. Mary Ann Hunter 9. Leah Barrus 10. Dale Froelich 11. Melissa Froelich 12. Nathaniel James Also for everyone's information, I thought everyone should know that there is a free program called Google Earth. It was recently updated so that you can see all of Wales in detail. Google Earth also is three dimensional, so you can look at the terrain too. If you look at Frongoch, you can see all the buildings, trees, hedges, powerlines, and even the white lines on the roads. I thought I could see a ruin, but it may have just been a sheep pen. Anyways, the point is that you can see lots of stuff you can't see on the ground, and you can see it wherever you have an internet connection. You can download it at www.earth.google.com Microsoft has a free program called Virtual Earth, which is similar, but doesn't have as high quality in Wales. www.magic.gov.uk has high-detailed topographical maps for free, showing most of the buildings. The Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Wales can be found at http://www.rcahmw.gov.uk/HI/ENG/Home/. It has high-detailed maps and contains information on lots and lots of historical things including Fron Goch (the dwelling). I thought these would be helpful sites for researching our ancestors. Nathaniel

    04/19/2008 05:52:46
    1. Re: [FRONGOCH-WALES] Griffith John of Merion.
    2. Many thanks Emily. I must apologise for sending the wrong information to the list - put it down to old age creeping on !! The subject line of the e-mail should have read William John of Gwynedd. The e-mail should have read as follows - I was reading Glenns "The Welsh Founders of of Pennsylvania" and noticed >>that William John , (one of the sons of John ap Evan of Penmaen, Bala who >>emigrated to Pennsylvania in 1698 and settled in Gwynedd , who was the >>brother of Griffith John , Margaret John Jane John and my Gwen John) was >>married to Jane Hugh, the daughter of Hugh ap Cadwaladr ap Rhys of Ysbyty >>Ifan. >> My GtX5 grandparents were Gwen John and Robert ap Hugh and I wondered if >> Robert ap Hugh was possibly the brother of Jane Hugh ? >> Does anyone on the list have any more information about Jane Hugh ? - >> I have no information about Robert ap Hugh except that he died in 1692 in >> Llanycil and that he was the father of my GtX4 grandfather Owen Robert. >> I would be very interested and grateful to hear from anyone who may have >> any >> information regarding the brothers and sisters and parents of Jane Hugh. >> >> Elfed Owen (U.K.) The John who you mention is John ap Evan of Penmaen, who is the father of Gwen John ,William John and Griffith John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emily" <aulicino@hevanet.com> To: <frongoch-wales@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [FRONGOCH-WALES] Griffith John of Merion. > Maybe someone else on the list will know, but I only show the following as > children of Hug ap Cadwaldr ap Rhys. I do not profess to have all the > children, however. > > I show: > Jane who m. William ap John son of John and Margaret > John (nothing known) > Ellin, b. ca 1653; m. Edward Fowlke > > This is my source, but I don't know if the email is still current: > > Source: > Beth Pilling at Ambler (now Lower Gwynedd) PA (email: > jpillingjr@worldnet.att.net) says Hugh ap Cadwaldr was from Ysbytty Ifan > and went to Plas Iolyn. John Hugh's aunt Ellin m. John Morris and lived > in > the house Bryn Gwyn. > Website on 1898 Fowlke reunion (//www.foulke.org/history/docs/1898.html) > > "of the Parish Spytu in Denbighshire." (This is Ysbytty Ifan) > > I would suggest you also join any Rootsweb email list for the Gwynedd, PA > area. Someone there may pick up on this and have access to Swarthmore > College records (Quaker records). Although what you seek is in Wales, you > never know if a connection is mentioned from US papers. > > > Best of luck, > Emily > > PS: For anyone interested, there are four of us who are going to meet in > Fron Goch, near Bala on Aug 15....others are most welcomed. Email me > directly for more details: aulicino@hevanet.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <eiandelowen@tiscali.co.uk> > To: <FRONGOCH-WALES@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:23 PM > Subject: [FRONGOCH-WALES] Griffith John of Merion. > > >>I was reading Glenns "The Welsh Founders of of Pennsylvania" and noticed >>that Griffith John , (one of the sons of John ap Evan of Penmaen, Bala who >>emigrated to Pennsylvania in 1690 and settled in Merion, who was the >>brother of William John , Margaret John Jane John and my Gwen John) was >>married to Jane Hugh, the daughter of Hugh ap Cadwaladr ap Rhys of Ysbyty >>Ifan. >> My GtX5 grandparents were Gwen John and Robert ap Hugh and I wondered if >> Robert ap Hugh was possibly the brother of Jane Hugh ? >> Does anyone on the list have any more information about Jane Hugh ? - >> I have no information about Robert ap Hugh except that he died in 1692 in >> Llanycil and that he was the father of my GtX4 grandfather Owen Robert. >> I would be very interested grateful to hear from anyone who may have any >> information regarding the brothers and sisters and parents of Jane Hugh. >> >> Elfed Owen (U.K.) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FRONGOCH-WALES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 >> 2:01 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FRONGOCH-WALES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/22/2007 03:21:20
    1. [FRONGOCH-WALES] Griffith John of Merion.
    2. I was reading Glenns "The Welsh Founders of of Pennsylvania" and noticed that Griffith John , (one of the sons of John ap Evan of Penmaen, Bala who emigrated to Pennsylvania in 1690 and settled in Merion, who was the brother of William John , Margaret John Jane John and my Gwen John) was married to Jane Hugh, the daughter of Hugh ap Cadwaladr ap Rhys of Ysbyty Ifan. My GtX5 grandparents were Gwen John and Robert ap Hugh and I wondered if Robert ap Hugh was possibly the brother of Jane Hugh ? Does anyone on the list have any more information about Jane Hugh ? - I have no information about Robert ap Hugh except that he died in 1692 in Llanycil and that he was the father of my GtX4 grandfather Owen Robert. I would be very interested grateful to hear from anyone who may have any information regarding the brothers and sisters and parents of Jane Hugh. Elfed Owen (U.K.)

    05/21/2007 02:23:25
    1. Re: [FRONGOCH-WALES] Griffith John of Merion.
    2. Emily
    3. Maybe someone else on the list will know, but I only show the following as children of Hug ap Cadwaldr ap Rhys. I do not profess to have all the children, however. I show: Jane who m. William ap John son of John and Margaret John (nothing known) Ellin, b. ca 1653; m. Edward Fowlke This is my source, but I don't know if the email is still current: Source: Beth Pilling at Ambler (now Lower Gwynedd) PA (email: jpillingjr@worldnet.att.net) says Hugh ap Cadwaldr was from Ysbytty Ifan and went to Plas Iolyn. John Hugh's aunt Ellin m. John Morris and lived in the house Bryn Gwyn. Website on 1898 Fowlke reunion (//www.foulke.org/history/docs/1898.html) "of the Parish Spytu in Denbighshire." (This is Ysbytty Ifan) I would suggest you also join any Rootsweb email list for the Gwynedd, PA area. Someone there may pick up on this and have access to Swarthmore College records (Quaker records). Although what you seek is in Wales, you never know if a connection is mentioned from US papers. Best of luck, Emily PS: For anyone interested, there are four of us who are going to meet in Fron Goch, near Bala on Aug 15....others are most welcomed. Email me directly for more details: aulicino@hevanet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <eiandelowen@tiscali.co.uk> To: <FRONGOCH-WALES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:23 PM Subject: [FRONGOCH-WALES] Griffith John of Merion. >I was reading Glenns "The Welsh Founders of of Pennsylvania" and noticed >that Griffith John , (one of the sons of John ap Evan of Penmaen, Bala who >emigrated to Pennsylvania in 1690 and settled in Merion, who was the >brother of William John , Margaret John Jane John and my Gwen John) was >married to Jane Hugh, the daughter of Hugh ap Cadwaladr ap Rhys of Ysbyty >Ifan. > My GtX5 grandparents were Gwen John and Robert ap Hugh and I wondered if > Robert ap Hugh was possibly the brother of Jane Hugh ? > Does anyone on the list have any more information about Jane Hugh ? - > I have no information about Robert ap Hugh except that he died in 1692 in > Llanycil and that he was the father of my GtX4 grandfather Owen Robert. > I would be very interested grateful to hear from anyone who may have any > information regarding the brothers and sisters and parents of Jane Hugh. > > Elfed Owen (U.K.) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FRONGOCH-WALES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/814 - Release Date: 5/21/2007 > 2:01 PM > >

    05/21/2007 10:38:35
    1. [FRONGOCH-WALES] Evan Robert Lewis of Frongoch
    2. Emily, The original Parish Registers (approx 1650 -1837) for Births , Marriages and Deaths for the Bala area are all in the Dolgellau archives . These include - Llanuwchllyn, Llanycil , Llanfor, Llandderfel, Llangower , Llandrillo and Llangar.. I have a book which lists all the Welsh parishes and gives you the current location of all the original registers. If you require information from this book let me know. Are you aware of the Parish Registers which have been transcribed by the Clwyd Family History Society ? If you go to www.clwydfhs.org.uk you will find details of how these can be purchased at a very reasonable cost , all printed in A4 booklets and some on microfiche . I have the transcriptions of all the above named parishes around Bala , including Cerrig y Druidion and Ysbytty Ifan. - if you want me to look up any names for you then please let me know. Like all transcriptions ,mistakes can be made and names omitted but these booklets can save you days of time trying to decypher entries in the original documents and the indexes are also invaluable - but as you well know , it may be necessary to do your final verification in the original registers. Referring back to your e-mail 13 March 2007 20:34 and the following paragraph - Founders by Glenn, vol. 2, p. vii: "Jane, wife of Robert Cadwalader, was the dau of John Evan, of Ucheldre, near Bala, son of Evan Robert Lewis. She was therefore, a sister of William John of Gwynedd, Griffith John of Merion, and Robert John (or Jones) of Abington." Is this the full transcription of the entry on this page of the book which refers to the John ap Evan's family ? I presume that Abington is a county Pennsylvania like Gwynedd and Merion. Elfed.

    03/15/2007 02:07:37
    1. [FRONGOCH-WALES] Evan Robert Lewis of Frongoch
    2. Emily, Here are the details of the book- Sufferings of Early Quakers. Ireland , Scotland, and Wales including Monmouthshire and Shropshire 1653 - 1691. Facsimile of part of the 1753 edition by Joseph Besse. Published by Sessions Book Trust, York, England - 2003 ISBN 1 85072 285 4 Price about £12-50 (It cost me £14-50 with Post and packing) Go to their Web site - www.sessionsofyork.co.uk for all the details Griffith John and William John , both of Merionethshire are mentioned in it - I am sure they are the sons of John ap Evan. I have never heard of the St. Alssph's records - where can they be seen ? Elfed.

    03/14/2007 05:19:52
    1. [FRONGOCH-WALES] Evan Robert Lewis of Frongoch
    2. Emily, Since my last message, I have read Beth McMakin's e-mail to Gary dated 18 Oct 2002 and she mentions members of John ap Evan' family who are on the "Robert and Elizabeth" passenger list but Gwen John is not included as a member of the family. However in her e-mail, dated 15 October 2002 to you , there is a Gwen John, and her children and her husband John Humphrey on the passenger list. Therefore the problem which I am trying to resolve is - Is this Gwen John the daughter of John ap Evan or is it some other Gwen John ? T. A. Glenn in his book claims that she is the daughter of John ap Evan but does not state where he got this evidence from . Opinions and suggestions would be gratefully received !! I have noticed that all the discussions which have taken place on this list since 1999 have not mentioned the very important book "The sufferings of Early Quakers" by Joseph Besse (1753). This book contains a wealth of information about the Welsh Quakers and I wondered if members of the list are aware that it is now available as a facsimile copy .Let me know if you want more details . Elfed.

    03/14/2007 03:46:26
    1. Re: [FRONGOCH-WALES] Evan Robert Lewis of Frongoch
    2. Emily
    3. Elfed, I don't know where these Parish records are....maybe in Dogelleau (sp) where the other Parish records are. I haven't checked into it, but need to before August. I just know that Glenn sited it from time to time. E ----- Original Message ----- From: <eiandelowen@tiscali.co.uk> To: <frongoch-wales@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 4:19 PM Subject: [FRONGOCH-WALES] Evan Robert Lewis of Frongoch > Emily, > > Here are the details of the book- > Sufferings of Early Quakers. Ireland , Scotland, and Wales including > Monmouthshire and Shropshire > 1653 - 1691. > Facsimile of part of the 1753 edition by Joseph Besse. > Published by Sessions Book Trust, York, England - 2003 > ISBN 1 85072 285 4 > Price about £12-50 (It cost me £14-50 with Post and packing) > > Go to their Web site - www.sessionsofyork.co.uk for all the details > > Griffith John and William John , both of Merionethshire are mentioned in > it - I am sure they are the sons of John ap Evan. > > I have never heard of the St. Alssph's records - where can they be seen ? > > Elfed. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FRONGOCH-WALES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/722 - Release Date: 3/14/2007 > 3:38 PM > >

    03/14/2007 02:32:12
    1. [FRONGOCH-WALES] Evan Robert Lewis of Frongoch
    2. Emily, Thank you for your prompt response and for your welcome . I will repeat my message to see if our communication link is working - I have read, with great interest ,all th e-mails on your Rootsweb website FRONGOCH - WALES - L Archives. I am researching my ancestors from the Bala area of North Wales. All my ancestors as far as I know came from the Bala area. I was brought up in Wales but I am now living in England. My gtX5 grandmother was Gwen John Evan who died in 1730 in Bala. I am trying to establish if she was the daughter of John ap Evan of Penmaen , Bala who died in 1696 (probate of his will granted in 1697) . John ap Evan was the son of Evan Robert Lewis of Fron Goch. Bala. In this will he mentions his daughter Gwen John ( a widow) and she was also an executor. In the FRONGOCH-WALES-L- Archives I have seen many references to Griffith John and Jane John (wife of Robert Cadalader of Llanuwchllyn ) who were the brother and sister of this Gwen John. The only other reference which I have found relating to Gwen John is on page 180 Vol 1 of "The Welsh Founders of Pennsylvania" by T. A. Glenn where it states the following - Gwen vch John (or Jones) of near Bala, co Mer. wid. John_______ , and dau. John Evans (otherwise John ap Evan), of Penmaen, par. of Llanfor, co. Mer. Rmd to Gwynedd, Penna., abt 1698. She m. 2dly, John Humphrey, of Gwynedd. It also states that their children were the Jane Jones who married Evan Griffith in 1707: David Jones (of Gwynedd Penns.) who married Lowry Roberts in 1707 and Cadwalader Jones.(of Gwynedd Penns.)----Elizabeth . Unfortunately the book does not state the source of this information and therefore I would be very grateful if you could provide me with any evidence that this statement in the book is correct or provide me with other information about Gwen John. I am trying to find the source evidence that she did in fact go to Pennsylvania which would probably prove that my Gwen John Evan is not the same person ! Regards, Elfed Owen (U. K.)

    03/14/2007 02:24:09
    1. Re: [FRONGOCH-WALES] Evan Robert Lewis of Frongoch
    2. Emily
    3. Elfed, I have never heard of the book you mentioned. Where can I get a copy? ALSO...I have a friend who lives in Wales who may be able to tell me more about Gwen John. I do know that Glenn's book is questionable and that in order to finish it on time he made up a few things. I don't know which items, however. I've been told that the lines there for Evan Robert Lewis are pretty much ok. However, one never knows. Have you checked St. Alsaph's? The records could be there. I'll let you know if I hear form my guy....he's hard to catch sometimes. Meanwhile...let's try to get this list going again. I'll post about the trip a bit later today in the case that stirs interest. Stick to it...the answer will be there at some point. E ----- Original Message ----- From: <eiandelowen@tiscali.co.uk> To: <FRONGOCH-WALES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: [FRONGOCH-WALES] Evan Robert Lewis of Frongoch > Emily, > > Since my last message, I have read Beth McMakin's e-mail to Gary dated 18 > Oct 2002 and she mentions members of John ap Evan' family who are on the > "Robert and Elizabeth" passenger list but Gwen John is not included as a > member of the family. > However in her e-mail, dated 15 October 2002 to you , there is a Gwen > John, and her children and her husband John Humphrey on the passenger > list. > Therefore the problem which I am trying to resolve is - Is this Gwen John > the daughter of John ap Evan or is it some other Gwen John ? > T. A. Glenn in his book claims that she is the daughter of John ap Evan > but does not state where he got this evidence from . > Opinions and suggestions would be gratefully received !! > > I have noticed that all the discussions which have taken place on this > list since 1999 have not mentioned the very important book "The > sufferings of Early Quakers" by Joseph Besse (1753). This book contains a > wealth of information about the Welsh Quakers and I wondered if members of > the list are aware that it is now available as a facsimile copy .Let me > know if you want more details . > > Elfed. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FRONGOCH-WALES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/722 - Release Date: 3/14/2007 > 3:38 PM > >

    03/14/2007 09:38:54
    1. [FRONGOCH-WALES] Trip to Wales
    2. Emily
    3. Greetings, everyone! I'm very excited to announce that there are four cousins on this email list who plan to visit Fron Goch this coming August (2007). Any of you are most welcomed to join us. Three of us are making the trip for a second time and the other is a first timer. Having people who have been there before, we can help you have a wonderful experience. We tend to stay in B&Bs and sometimes hotels. There are several nice B & Bs near the our ancestral home of Fron Goch. In 2000 we visited the sites of old Quaker meeting places (were homes then), many castles owned by our ancestors, many towns where they lived and we walked the land of Fron Goch. We met some wonderful people the four of us plan on revisiting and we would be pleased if any of you would like to join us. It is typical that we meet for some adventures and tend to go separate ways for others as people do have other interests. There are many, many sites to visit in Wales and more involving our ancestors than we would ever have time to see. Wales is a beautiful country and we have found the people wonderful. If you are interested in joining us...meeting us there and spending some time here and there together, please email me directly at: aulicino@hevanet.com I can also give your email to some who went for their view of the trip...or you can visit the email list's archives in 2000 from about Aug to Dec to see what we wrote about it....I never had time to finish my detailed rendition, but you will get the idea. Also visit the following sites to see some of the places where our ancestors were.... http://www.castlewales.com/home.html http://www.100welshheroes.com/en/biography/rhodrimawr Google: Rhodri Mawr Hywel Dda Llywelyn Fawr (the great) Elsig's Pillar Bala Frongoch Betws y Coed Rhiwlas Ysptty Ivan There's many, many more wonderful connections we have to Wales. Hope to meet some of you! Best wishes, Emily PS: Anyone know who went the last time know the current email of those who went? I've lost track of some people.

    11/08/2006 12:27:03
    1. [FRONGOCH-WALES] Trip to Wales
    2. Emily
    3. Greetings, everyone! We have been a very silent list in the last few years, but as most of us do know probably as much as we may find for our Evans group, that is understandable. In 2000 six of us on this list meet in Frongoch and visited the areas of our ancestors. I'm sure everyone had a grand time. We often met up with some of the others and did things as a group as well as traveled independently around the area of Frongoch and throughout the country. I'm planning at trip about September 2007 (no date set as yet), but wanted all of you to know in the case you would like to go and needed to save your pennies! <VBG> One of our cousins who was not on the list in 2000, Beulah, will be going with me. We would be pleased to have the opportunity to meet any of the rest of you and share some times in Wales. Of course, this does mean anyone from the old group is most welcomed! Beulah and I do plan on some time at the National Library for research, but can't miss the surrounding towns and wonderful sights. If you are interested, we plan on staying at Frongoch in a Bed and Breakfast as I did before. I've not contacted the owners as I don't have a date yet, but there are two B & Bs in the area that are wonderful. Join us to trod the beautiful country of our ancestors. See the castles and sights where they once stood. Email if you have any questions, Emily Frongoch Admin

    09/12/2006 01:54:25
    1. RootsWeb Email List Changes
    2. Emily
    3. Greetings, Following up on the conversion of the mailing list software from Smartlist to Mailman, we have a new feature which will simplify things for listers. Rootsweb is omitting the "-L" or "-D"on the messages and digests; therefore, you will only see email lists write as the examples below: Talley@rootsweb.com Tally@rootsweb.com Studyvin@rootsweb.com Frongoch-Wales@rootsweb.com To subscribe or unsubscribe from the regular (individual) email, you will use addresses like these: Talley-request@rootsweb.com Tally-request@rootsweb.com Studyvin-request@rootsweb.com Frongoch-Wales-request@rootsweb.com If you sub or unsub from the "digest" version, you will use the old method: Talley-request-D@rootsweb.com Tally-request-D@rootsweb.com Studyvin-request-D@rootsweb.com Frongoch-Wales-request-D@rootsweb.com You may have to change your mail filters and address book to reflect the name change. Digesters, please note: if you are having difficulty with receiving digests or the appearance of them let me know. The default is "plain text". Thanks! Emily

    08/17/2006 10:59:21
    1. Visit to Wales
    2. Jeanne Nelson
    3. I will be going to Wales in April of 2005. I hope to see Fran Goch and maybe do some research. Do any of you have some advice for me? We will be touring Ireland March 20-April 1. We will then fly from Shannon to London (Heathrow). We might stay a day or two in London, then take the train to Cardiff where we have friends to visit. We fly from London to L.A. April 17. The time between April 1 and 17 has not been planned specifically yet. Jeanne Pugh Nelson

    01/02/2005 10:55:51
    1. Re: [FRONGOCH] Pennsylvania
    2. Terry D. Prall
    3. Hi, Interesting little site. Hugh Pugh - what were the parents thinking? :)- Both were probably Welsh, but doubtful they were Quakers. Definitely the right part of PA though. Have you seen "The Robert Pugh Family - One Branch of the Robert & Sarah Evans Pugh Family" by Mary Elizabeth Pugh and Margaret Louise Pugh Saville or "Capon Valley - It's Pioneers and their Descendants" by Maud Pugh? Both site other secondary sources, but have a lot of info. Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bmo618@aol.com> To: <FRONGOCH-WALES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 9:27 AM Subject: [FRONGOCH] Pennsylvania > Hi Terry, > > I also don't know if the Quaker records were kept intact in Wales after the > migrations of the late 1600's. At this point all my research has been in this > country. > > I did come across an interesting web site that might have some of "our" > people on it. > It deals with Pennsylvania executions. > > http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution/PENNSYLVANIA.htm > > Name: Pugh, Hugh > Race: White > Sex: Male > Occupation: Millwright > Crime: Murder > Method: Hanging > Date: May 9, 1718 > County: Delaware > > Name: Thomas, Lazarus > Race: White > Sex: Male > Occupation: Farm Hand > Crime: Murder > Method: Hanging > Date: May 9, 1718 > County: Delaware > > since these two people were hung on the same day, I wonder if they were > involved in the same crime? Doesn't sound like our peace loving Quakers, but the > place, date and names fit. > > Beulah > >

    05/26/2004 04:11:34
    1. Pennsylvania
    2. Hi Terry, I also don't know if the Quaker records were kept intact in Wales after the migrations of the late 1600's. At this point all my research has been in this country. I did come across an interesting web site that might have some of "our" people on it. It deals with Pennsylvania executions. http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution/PENNSYLVANIA.htm Name: Pugh, Hugh Race: White Sex: Male Occupation: Millwright Crime: Murder Method: Hanging Date: May 9, 1718 County: Delaware Name: Thomas, Lazarus Race: White Sex: Male Occupation: Farm Hand Crime: Murder Method: Hanging Date: May 9, 1718 County: Delaware since these two people were hung on the same day, I wonder if they were involved in the same crime? Doesn't sound like our peace loving Quakers, but the place, date and names fit. Beulah

    05/26/2004 03:27:32
    1. Re: [FRONGOCH] Fwd: Robert Pugh/Sarah Evans
    2. Terry D. Prall
    3. Hi Beulah! Everything I've seen on Sarah and Robert is secondary source material. Likewise on Ellin. I wonder if the Quaker records in Wales were kept in tact after the migration to Pennsylvania? It HAS been ages since any activity on the list, unless I got unsuscribed. Since I got your post, I must still be on! Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bmo618@aol.com> To: <FRONGOCH-WALES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 11:00 PM Subject: [FRONGOCH] Fwd: Robert Pugh/Sarah Evans > > --part1_78.57cf8758.2de410d3_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In a message dated 05/23/2004 4:04:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Bmo618 writes: > > << Subj: Robert Pugh/Sarah Evans > Date: 05/23/2004 4:04:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time > From: <A HREF="mailto:Bmo618">Bmo618</A> > To: <A HREF="mailto:frongoch-wales-l@rootsweb.com"> > frongoch-wales-l@rootsweb.com</A> > > Hello, > > I am a new member to this list. It appears to be inactive lately, is there > anyone still a member? I am a long time researcher, since 1967, but only in > about the last 2 years have I been poking around in the Welsh genealogies. I > connect to FronGoch through Sarah Evans who married Robert Pugh. > > I have some information to pass on and also a question. A lot of secondary > sources report that Sarah Evans married Robert Pugh. Has anyone found this in > a primary source document? Also has anyone found the birth of their daughter > Ellin/Ellen in Wales? I have records for later children but that this one. > > I met with a professional Welsh researcher a couple weeks back and he > recommended several books. I will share his input with you. He advised we read > "History of Wales" by John Davies > "Welsh Family History A Guide to Research" by John and Sheila Rowlands > "Second Stages in Researching Welsh Ancestry" by John & Sheila Rowlands > > Thanks and hope to hear from you, > Beulah O'Neal >> > > > --part1_78.57cf8758.2de410d3_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-path: <Bmo618@aol.com> > From: Bmo618@aol.com > Full-name: Bmo618 > Message-ID: <b6.2c755df5.2de287e9@aol.com> > Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 19:04:09 EDT > Subject: Robert Pugh/Sarah Evans > To: frongoch-wales-l@rootsweb.com > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 > > Hello, > > I am a new member to this list. It appears to be inactive lately, is there > anyone still a member? I am a long time researcher, since 1967, but only in > about the last 2 years have I been poking around in the Welsh genealogies. I > connect to FronGoch through Sarah Evans who married Robert Pugh. > > I have some information to pass on and also a question. A lot of secondary > sources report that Sarah Evans married Robert Pugh. Has anyone found this in > a primary source document? Also has anyone found the birth of their daughter > Ellin/Ellen in Wales? I have records for later children but that this one. > > I met with a professional Welsh researcher a couple weeks back and he > recommended several books. I will share his input with you. He advised we read > "History of Wales" by John Davies > "Welsh Family History A Guide to Research" by John and Sheila Rowlands > "Second Stages in Researching Welsh Ancestry" by John & Sheila Rowlands > > Thanks and hope to hear from you, > Beulah O'Neal > > --part1_78.57cf8758.2de410d3_boundary-- > >

    05/25/2004 04:53:51
    1. Fwd: Robert Pugh/Sarah Evans
    2. --part1_78.57cf8758.2de410d3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/23/2004 4:04:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Bmo618 writes: << Subj: Robert Pugh/Sarah Evans Date: 05/23/2004 4:04:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:Bmo618">Bmo618</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:frongoch-wales-l@rootsweb.com"> frongoch-wales-l@rootsweb.com</A> Hello, I am a new member to this list. It appears to be inactive lately, is there anyone still a member? I am a long time researcher, since 1967, but only in about the last 2 years have I been poking around in the Welsh genealogies. I connect to FronGoch through Sarah Evans who married Robert Pugh. I have some information to pass on and also a question. A lot of secondary sources report that Sarah Evans married Robert Pugh. Has anyone found this in a primary source document? Also has anyone found the birth of their daughter Ellin/Ellen in Wales? I have records for later children but that this one. I met with a professional Welsh researcher a couple weeks back and he recommended several books. I will share his input with you. He advised we read "History of Wales" by John Davies "Welsh Family History A Guide to Research" by John and Sheila Rowlands "Second Stages in Researching Welsh Ancestry" by John & Sheila Rowlands Thanks and hope to hear from you, Beulah O'Neal >> --part1_78.57cf8758.2de410d3_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Bmo618@aol.com> From: Bmo618@aol.com Full-name: Bmo618 Message-ID: <b6.2c755df5.2de287e9@aol.com> Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 19:04:09 EDT Subject: Robert Pugh/Sarah Evans To: frongoch-wales-l@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Hello, I am a new member to this list. It appears to be inactive lately, is there anyone still a member? I am a long time researcher, since 1967, but only in about the last 2 years have I been poking around in the Welsh genealogies. I connect to FronGoch through Sarah Evans who married Robert Pugh. I have some information to pass on and also a question. A lot of secondary sources report that Sarah Evans married Robert Pugh. Has anyone found this in a primary source document? Also has anyone found the birth of their daughter Ellin/Ellen in Wales? I have records for later children but that this one. I met with a professional Welsh researcher a couple weeks back and he recommended several books. I will share his input with you. He advised we read "History of Wales" by John Davies "Welsh Family History A Guide to Research" by John and Sheila Rowlands "Second Stages in Researching Welsh Ancestry" by John & Sheila Rowlands Thanks and hope to hear from you, Beulah O'Neal --part1_78.57cf8758.2de410d3_boundary--

    05/24/2004 05:00:35
    1. [FRONGOCH] Season's Greetings
    2. Emily
    3. Dear List members, It has been quite some time since I've written or since I have heard from many of you. I'm sure we have all been very busy with other parts of our genealogy as well as our lives. I am just writing to let you know the list still exists, and if anyone discovers a new tidbit, we'd love to help you celebrate your great find.... if you let us know! <vbg> Just to let you know....I'm currently working on a book for my Ogan line (An Ogan wife descended from Sarah Evans, dau of Evan ab Evan of Frongoch, Merioneth, North Wales. AND, I am now a grandmother to Averly Emma, born 3 Jun 2002. My husband and I are planning to retire within the year (hopefully June, but at the latest next December), and after that, I hope to return to Wales (among other places) within a short time. Just recently, I heard from our friend Keith in Bala (...again, thanks to Roland for finding him...) and he writes that he has changed businesses. He has now acquired new properties for weekly rental to vacationers. Always curious, I asked more about them and find they are quite old and typical of Welsh country homes. The location seems wonderful! SO...we have many places to go when we visit again. If interested, you can see them on the Web at: http://www.cricciethcottages.co.uk SO...keep another trip in mind...start saving your pennies. It could happen! There could be other parties out there who are interested in going.... Let's hear from you, if so. Maybe others would like to join you... (For those new to the list, check the archives prior to and after July 2000 as six of us did visit our ancestral home of Frongoch.) (AND...I'm sure you could get a lot of great advice from those of us who have gone...) Have a Wonderful Holiday...My best to all of you! Emily List Admin

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