This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: boneinfrance Surnames: frisch. gaic. knopp Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.frisch/235.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My maternal grandfather was Frans Wilhelm Frisch. b. amsterdam in 1862. Father Joseph Frisch. Mother Johanna Louisa Sijbilla Gaic. They came to UK between his birth and 1871 (census) but Johanna does not appear then or subsequently. I think Joseph was married twice, if so, then the lst (or 2nd) wife was Barbara Knopp. They were the parents of several children including August b. 1860, also in Amsterdam. Like you, I find it v. difficult to trace back, but I understand that Joseph (Joseph Johann) was born in Bavaria. Good hunting. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.