If one assumes the family names and marriages collected by Mr Rose* are only some of the family members (those mentioned at the time of his conversation with the MO residents in the 1870's) Then one can argue that this William and Joseph FRENCH are the older sons of William FRENCH brother of Lafford (RW) FRENCH. 1790 - William FRENCH (the older) 2 males over 16, 2 males under 16 and 5 females [family has boy over 16, 2 boys under 16 and 4 girls] 1800 - Betsey FRENCH has 1 boy 10-16 [possibly born 1790 after census enumeration date] and 2 boys 16-26 but only 1 girl 16-26 and 5 children under 10 who would have been born 1790-1800. [-- and one can argue 3 of the girls have married or died between 1790-1800. It is possible there were additional children who had already left the William FRENCH hshld before the 1790 Census.] 1800 - William FRENCH (the younger) and female are 16-26 with only 1 child under 10 If one assumes the 1800 Betsey FRENCH is the widow of Lafford's brother William. If one assumes the 1800 Betsey FRENCH boy 10-16 is the mentioned 'John settled Callaway Co., MO in 1820 If one assumes the younger boy 16-26 is the mentioned 'Hugh settled Boone Co. MO in 1820 Then one could argue the older boy 16-26 exists and is named Joseph and is found along with his older brother, William, in Wilson Co. TN. The fact that they are not named by Mr. Rose does not mean they didn't exist. I would, at this point, consider William FRENCH (the older) to be older than brothers Joseph or Lafford FRENCH. Joseph Elledge is listed along with William FRENCH (the older) in 1790 Pendelton SC Census. He shows 1 male over 16 and 5 females. When did Sally FRENCH marry Joseph ELLEDGE? Possible discrepancies that need examined. [but remember, being on a tax list does not necessarily mean the named person was living there at that time]: William French, John Denton, Whitfield Elledge, and Joseph Elledge were on 1797 Warren Co, KY Tax List _______________ USC (Tax List) 1800 Warren Co, KY -Wm French _______________ Joseph Elledge and William French were on the 1800 and 1801 Warren Co, KY Tax Lists. Now we have constructed a theory about the William FRENCH, brother of Lafford FRENCH, and his family. What is needed now is documentation that supports this theory. I am not yet ready to assume anything in the theory is true. I would be very interested in seeing the will and estate information for William FRENCH that Hugh refers to. We need to establish an age for this William!! Do we have an age for any children of this William FRENCH? * "History of The Pioneer Families of Missouri" by Wm S. Bryan & Robert Rose, published in 1876 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 7:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FRENCH-L] William FRENCH, KY and TN Now that it is reasonably established that William, s/o Joseph and Hannah FRENCH, died after 1790 and before 1800 in SC before his brother, Simon, departed for KY, there is a William FRENCH found in KY and TN who is not identified: William French, John Denton, Whitfield Elledge, and Joseph Elledge were on 1797 Warren Co, KY Tax List _______________ USC (Tax List) 1800 Warren Co, KY -Wm French _______________ Joseph Elledge and William French were on the 1800 and 1801 Warren Co, KY Tax Lists. ________________ Both William French and Joseph French, as well as Joseph Elledge and John Denton were on the 1804 and 1805 Wilson Co, TN Tax Lists. ________________ On Nov 13, 1808, Wilson Co, TN, Will Book 1, page 172, The inventory of the property of William French, deceased, lists estate buyers: JOSEPH ELLEDGE WHITEFIELD ELLEDGE HUGH FRENCH and several others. ________________ Can anyone place this William FRENCH?----Joseph FRENCH? Best regards, Hugh