I wanted to resend the previous note with a better subject line. Sorry for the duplication: Our first David French was thought to either have a father George or to have George as a second name. He married Margaret/Peggy Shively in 1790 in Louisville, Kentucky. Their son David Shively French married Ann Hudson in 1820 in Ohio County, Kentucky. We have David Frenches in every generation, often every son had a son David, so sometimes multiple cousins were Davids. I am very intrigued by George French/Elizabeth Sturman French. I would bet George is the brother of David and that their father was a George or, again, David George. We have submitted male-line DNA to the French Family DNA| project. Do any of you have a male who could submit to that process? It is very easy and absolutely painless. When we did it, it was a bit over $100, but I believe it has tremendous potential to help up tie up the many loose ends in the French family -- but not until we get more DNA submitted. We are chart number 121 and the DNA web site is at: http://dnafrench.tripod.com/ Info about the project is at: http://small-stuff.com/FRENCH/DNA/index.htm and the charts are at: http://small-stuff.com/FRENCH/DNA/results.htm There is a Jonathan French born 1810 of Martin County, IN on the match list with me. Myrtle At 05:46 AM 2/19/2007 +0000, you wrote: George French's wife, Elizabeth Sturman, had a sister (Rebecca) who married Isaac Hudson/Hutson in 1813 in Knox Co., IN. Isaac was killed in an Indian attack and then Rebecca married a David French (1816 in Knox Co., IN). They lived in Warren Co., IN. I have in my notes that there may be a "Warner French" on the same page as David French in Warren Co., IN in the 1840 census. I don't have any proof that this David French was related to George French, but it seems likely to me. Elizabeth and Rebecca's parents were Thomas Humphrey Sturman and Mary Lewis. The reason I asked about "Lewis" and "Fielding" along with "Warner" is that in the FFA Chart #31 it says (in reference to George French and Elizabeth Sturman) that " Ref {35} knows about the connection between the Sturman and Geo. Washington line." George Washington's sister was married to Fielding Lewis "of Warner Hall". I think that Ref {35} thought there could be a connection between Elizabeth and Rebecca Sturman's mother-- Mary Lewis-- and Fielding Lewis. The bio of Ersom French does say that Elizabeth Sturman's grandfather was a guard to Geo Washington throughout the Revolutionary War. Also, Chart #31 on Elizabeth Shelton (or Sturman) French says that "One of the younger boys in this family was in a play. His grandmother made a George Washington costume. People said he looked like George Washington. His grandmother said he was related to George Washington. This legend has come down through many branches of the family in IL, SD, and NE [22]." It would be interesting to get good proof of some of the middle names given for the French's in Chart #31, like Henry Fielding FRENCH (census records say "Henry F. French"). Deb S. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Myrtle Gibson <myrtle@montana.com> > We have two short notes on Warner French. In trying to clarify my William > French, I noted that there was a Warner L. French 1842-1862. In our family, > we have Louis French, and have wondered whether Warner L. French was Warner > Louis, but have nothing to signify this. > > Also, on the 1860 Ohio County Kentucky Census, Warner French was living in > the household of my ancestors, David Shively French, 59, and Ann Hudson > French, 58. An annotated version of the census gave that person as Warner > C. 17. I wouldn't get too hung up on Warner C. vs Warner L. until I had > looked at the original census. A curlicue "C," "L," and "B" can all look > very much alike. > > Myrtle Gibson > > > At 02:23 AM 2/19/2007 +0000, you wrote: > > >Marilyn, > > > >Are there any of your French's named "Lewis" or "Fielding" in addition to > >"Warner"? > > > >Deb S. > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > >From: "Marilyn Horton" <mteach209@msn.com> > > > Warner is listed #1 in Phillip's probate document. However, he apparently > > > isn't the son of Sarah Randall. The Randall descendent that I have > > been in > > > touch with did not have him listed as her son and his birthdate doesn't > > fit. > > > Here is what I am wondering: > > > > > > Could Warner have been given the surname of a possible mother or > > > grandmother? > > > > > > Does anyone have a French Warner connecition? > > > > > > Phillip was born in KY but could have gone across the river to marry. > > > > > > mhh > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > FRENCH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in > > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > Myrtle Gibson Bozeman, MT