Hi Mara, Thanks and I am so happy that you are getting your French stuff online. You have done so much wonderful research it is a treasure to all of us. I am thinking that instead of Group numbers I will list the FFA number of each testee if know. That would make the DNA testing interesting as Group 1 contains several different FFA chart numbers. We haven't figured out how some of us tie together. As for John French, the brick mason. When his brother, Phillip, came over to America, he was listed as a merchant from London. Born in Wapping, London, Middlesex, England in 1666. His father, Phillip, died in Kelshall (Now Kelsale), Suffolk, England in 1703 and named his son, Phillip & John in New York, America, and a son William. They could have Irish cousins, but these children were Christened in a Protestant church in London. Julia In a message dated 4/2/2007 1:25:49 PM Central Daylight Time, marafrench@mindspring.com writes: It seems that the genealogy researched for Group 1 goes back furthest to two lines: John French, the Brick Mason, b. ca. 1647, and Hugh French b. ca. 1640. The only country mentioned from which this line could have emigrated is Ireland, so perhaps this line did come from Ireland but is not that specific Irish line from Group 7. The results are close, and both Group 1 and Group 7 have a Haplogroup number of R1b1c. I believe (really not sure) that Margaret Amundsen told me that her line (Hugh French) was Catholic and from Ireland, and St. Mary's Co, MD was a Catholic county early on. The Protestants lived across the Potomac. I see that the DNA test results for markers 26-37 are somewhat different. Has anyone researched further back on one of the 14 ancestral families from Group 1? It could be that Ireland is where the research should be done. Someday I'll dig out my notes from past trips to Ireland. Many of the French families from Ireland had royalty, being part of the first 14 Tribes of Galway that spread out, especially to Roscommon. These families are documented more readily in the red Heraldry books. Julia, you're doing a fantastic job. Mara ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.