To all the Lafford French people, enough please! Let's get on with trying to help one another dig up those roots and break down those brick walls.

I do not have cause to post a great deal of info to the server, because what I have, is "old news" thanks to the dedicated work of many of you. I have been a list subscriber for a good while and receive the digest compilation. The value of it to my personal research has been enormous. On the occasion when I have had a question regarding any data I email the person that posted it (not the list) for clarification or additional information. At my work, email is a prime means of communication and one thing we have learned not to do is to attempt to interpret a writer's emotional input into a message. This can create all sorts of problems and misunderstandings. I do, however, recognize Julia as the manager of this list and think that she does have the right and responsibility to try to keep it on track. It would be a sad loss to see a good thing disappear for the lack of communication and understanding. I guess I have said enough. Ron French 133 Westwood West Fork AR 72774

I believe in my last message, I misspoke, and want to clear something up. The cost of $24 is for two lists. What Rootsweb requires is, in order to own a list, you must be a Rootsweb Sponsor, which is $24 per year, but with a Sponsorship, you are allowed two lists. They, also, rely on contributions, without which they couldn't keep all this going. The servers alone cost tens of thousands of dollars each, and they have several to handle all the mail. They tried to keep the operation noncommercial, but last year, finally, accepted corporate sponsors. That is why you will see ads on their pages in the archives. You may make a contribution at: Rootsweb.com Julia

In a message dated 05/23/2000 1:56:31 PM Central Daylight Time, RFrench866@aol.com writes: << HI: Julia you have thrown me for a loop what do you mean when you say you own this list . i was under the impression that nobody own anything on the internet it was free to all >> Believe me. Nothing in life is free, but the internet comes close. All Rootsweb lists are owned by the person who requested and began the list. We pay Rootsweb yearly for each one, at $24 per year. I own six of them. We are, generally, open and easy, but have the power to exclude any trouble-maker. Mostly, I just monitor what is going on, and step in only when necessary. Julia

HI: Julia you have thrown me for a loop what do you mean when you say you own this list . i was under the impression that nobody own anything on the internet it was free to all

Jeff, With all due respect, I believe that you should bone up on your netiquette. In the first place, this is a public forum by subscription. In the second place, Jan was only trying to smooth things over. In the third place, all messages go to the over 200 members of this list, so anything you say is directed to all of them, and Jan's message went to all of them as did mine. It is a bit self-centered to believe, on your part, that everything is about you. In the fourth place, I own this list, and do not tolerate the rudeness that you are exhibiting. If you don't want to be civil, then you can unsubscribe, as, any more of this type of attack from you on our list members will not be tolerated. Julia French Wood Listowner In a message dated 05/23/2000 12:17:44 PM Central Daylight Time, jlfrench@iname.com writes: << I have correspond with Hugh and we have got things right. It really is no concern of yours and you should not butt in when you are not asked. I do not need you telling me what to do. I really cannot think of a reason for getting an e-mail from you in the first place. If I tell someone they are full of it that is my business not yours. >>

You and Jan should follow your own advice. You two are the ones who posted to the whole list. This is true because I hit the reply button and if you two had not sent to the whole list then my reply would not have been sent to the whole list. Same thing goes no one ask you or Jan to stick your noses in. If you do not want people to respond to the list then don't post your nasty replies to the list. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JULIAFWOOD@aol.com> To: <FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Re: Lafford (1753 NJ-1834 NC) > Jeff, > With all due respect, I believe that you should bone up on your netiquette. > > In the first place, this is a public forum by subscription. > > In the second place, Jan was only trying to smooth things over. > > In the third place, all messages go to the over 200 members of this list, so > anything you say is directed to all of them, and Jan's message went to all of > them as did mine. It is a bit self-centered to believe, on your part, that > everything is about you. > > In the fourth place, I own this list, and do not tolerate the rudeness that > you are exhibiting. If you don't want to be civil, then you can unsubscribe, > as, any more of this type of attack from you on our list members will not be > tolerated. > > Julia French Wood > Listowner > > In a message dated 05/23/2000 12:17:44 PM Central Daylight Time, > jlfrench@iname.com writes: > > << I have correspond with Hugh and we have got things right. It really is no > concern of yours and you should not butt in when you are not asked. I do > not need you telling me what to do. I really cannot think of a reason for > getting an e-mail from you in the first place. If I tell someone they are > full of it that is my business not yours. > >> >

All, There is an issue that needs to be resolved. We know that Joseph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH had Lafford (b. 1753 NJ) and others, and that Lafford was later in SC during the RW. Lafford subsequently died in 1834 in NC. What we don't know is where/when Lafford's parents died. One source says the Joseph died in 1760 in NJ (documentation unknown). Others are of the opinion that Joseph and Hannah came to SC with their family and died there. Do we have any concrete data to resolve this issue? Best regards, Hugh

I have corresponed with Hugh and we have got things right. It really is no concern of yours and you should not butt in when you are not asked. I do not need you telling me what to do. I really can not think of a reason for getting an e-mail from you in the first place. If I tell someone they are full of it that is my business not yours. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JULIAFWOOD@aol.com> To: <FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Re: Lafford (1753 NJ-1834 NC) > I don't believe that Hugh was "jumping on your case". He is a valuable > researcher to the FRENCH list, and has spent many years in this effort. It > is easy to misunderstand intent in email, especially when the statement or > question is quickly to the point. > > You did state that Joseph FRENCH was born in NJ and died there. That > indicates that he did not leave NJ. If you had no place of death, that > should have been stated or the date and place of death omitted. > > When erroneous data gets started, it is harder to stop it if you don't do it > immediately. To let it go by, without question is, in effect, agreeing with > it. > > If you decide to leave our group, we will not try to stop you, but it will be > your loss, not ours, as we "old timers" have lots of data to share, and Hugh > has helped many, including myself. > > Julia French Wood > Listowner > > > > In a message dated 05/23/2000 12:48:22 AM Central Daylight Time, > jlfrench@iname.com writes: > > << I did not introduce as fact that Joseph and Hannah Horn French did not go > to > SC. You are full of it. No where in my message did I say or reference > anything about Joseph and Hannah Horn French going or not going to SC. > > You need to read better before jumping on my case. >> >

I have corresponed with Hugh and we have got things right. It really is no concern of yours and you should not butt in when you are not asked. I do not need you telling me what to do. I really can not think of a reason for getting an e-mail from you in the first place. If I tell someone they are full of it that is my business not yours. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Chastain Lund" <genhelp@worldnet.att.net> To: <FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Re: Lafford (1753 NJ-1834 NC) > I thought Hugh's message was in keeping with our efforts to keep the records > straight....I don't believe he "jumped on you" as you say......we need to > make sure the records we leave behind help future genealogists, not hinder > them....I think we've all been on some wind goose chases because of > erroneous information left by previous researchers. > > I don't think he meant you any "slight"......Jan Lund > > -----Original Message----- > From: jlfrench <jlfrench@iname.com> > To: FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com <FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, May 22, 2000 10:49 PM > Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Re: Lafford (1753 NJ-1834 NC) > > > >I did not introduce as fact that Joseph and Hannah Horn French did not go > to > >SC. You are full of it. No where in my message did I say or reference > >anything about Joseph and Hannah Horn French going or not going to SC. > > > >You need to read better before jumping on my case. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <HFTHusma@aol.com> > >To: <FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 2:22 PM > >Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Re: Lafford (1753 NJ-1834 NC) > > > > > >> In a message dated 5/19/00 1:41:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >> jlfrench@iname.com writes: > >> > >> << Lafford French born 1753 Raritans Landing, N.J. died 9 Nov 1834 > >Rutherford > >> County, NC Son of Joseph French Jr born 1727 Raritans Landing, N.J. died > >> 1760 N.J. and Hannah Horn born 1731 Raritans Landing, N.J. > >> > >> Joseph French Jr Son of Joseph French Sr born 23 Jul 1698 Shrewsbury, > >N.J. > >> Died 1752 Shrewsbury, N.J. and Allee ? > >> > >> Joseph French Sr Son of Thomas French (3) born 31 Oct 1667 Nether > >Heyford, > >> England Died 1745 Moorestown, Burilington County, N.J. and Mary Allen. > >> > >> Thomas French (3) Son of Thomas French (2) born 29 Oct 1639 Nether > >Heyford, > >> England Died 3 may 1699 Rancocas, N.J. and Jane Atkins > >> > >> Thomas French (2) son of Thomas ffrench born 1611 Nether Heyford, > England > >> died 1673 Nether Heyford England and Sara Wood.>> > >> > >> Jeff, > >> You introduce as fact that Josesph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH did not go to > >SC > >> as their four sons and one daughter did. I belive that I have a > reference > >> that says that Joseph and Hannah were in SC. Your record contends that > >> Joseph, Jr. died in 1760 in NJ. This means that their oldest child, > >Lafford, > >> was 7 at the time and Sarah, William, Joseph (III) and Simon went to SC > >with > >> their mother or went on their own. I think that 1760 is about the time > >> Joseph, Jr. and family left NJ for SC It seems to me that the date of > >Joseph, > >> Jr's death is challengeable. Would you provide me with a documentation > >> reference? > >> > >> The record shows that Joseph FRENCH, Sr applied for permission to marry > in > >> 1722 and that the Friends (Quakers) permission was granted. Joseph, Jr. > >was > >> born some time after that, so I suspect that 1727 is correct, but I have > >> never seen such a reference. I could use a referece here also. > >> > >> Thanks for the effort you are making to keep the record for all of us to > >use. > >> > >> Incidentally, I am of the Joseph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH line thru their > >> son, William, and his daughter, Jane, who m. Captain John DENTON. I do > >not > >> have the wife of William or his place/date of death. Could use some > help. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Hugh > >> > > >

I don't believe that Hugh was "jumping on your case". He is a valuable researcher to the FRENCH list, and has spent many years in this effort. It is easy to misunderstand intent in email, especially when the statement or question is quickly to the point. You did state that Joseph FRENCH was born in NJ and died there. That indicates that he did not leave NJ. If you had no place of death, that should have been stated or the date and place of death omitted. When erroneous data gets started, it is harder to stop it if you don't do it immediately. To let it go by, without question is, in effect, agreeing with it. If you decide to leave our group, we will not try to stop you, but it will be your loss, not ours, as we "old timers" have lots of data to share, and Hugh has helped many, including myself. Julia French Wood Listowner In a message dated 05/23/2000 12:48:22 AM Central Daylight Time, jlfrench@iname.com writes: << I did not introduce as fact that Joseph and Hannah Horn French did not go to SC. You are full of it. No where in my message did I say or reference anything about Joseph and Hannah Horn French going or not going to SC. You need to read better before jumping on my case. >>

List Members, I tend to agree that Hugh did not "jump" this cousin as jgreen thought. HOWEVER, the first time I posted to this list Hugh jumped all over me also and suggested I go to library and look up a few things. I personally didn't appreciate his foul humor nor his authoritative voice on this list. I mean afterall, isn't this a search list for French families? Someone explained to me that Hugh was all bark but I still thought he should be set straight that some folks just aren't ready to write or think the way he does, but DO have information to share. My 2cents. Pepper French from Georgia ----- Original Message ----- From: jgreen <jgreen@coslink.net> To: <FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Re: Lafford (1753 NJ-1834 NC) > Ok. I'm over it. All you people on all of these lists can do is bicker. > Have a nice life. I'm outta here. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jlfrench <jlfrench@iname.com> > To: FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com <FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 1:42 AM > Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Re: Lafford (1753 NJ-1834 NC) > > > >I did not introduce as fact that Joseph and Hannah Horn French did not go > to > >SC. You are full of it. No where in my message did I say or reference > >anything about Joseph and Hannah Horn French going or not going to SC. > > > >You need to read better before jumping on my case. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <HFTHusma@aol.com> > >To: <FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 2:22 PM > >Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Re: Lafford (1753 NJ-1834 NC) > > > > > >> In a message dated 5/19/00 1:41:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >> jlfrench@iname.com writes: > >> > >> << Lafford French born 1753 Raritans Landing, N.J. died 9 Nov 1834 > >Rutherford > >> County, NC Son of Joseph French Jr born 1727 Raritans Landing, N.J. died > >> 1760 N.J. and Hannah Horn born 1731 Raritans Landing, N.J. > >> > >> Joseph French Jr Son of Joseph French Sr born 23 Jul 1698 Shrewsbury, > >N.J. > >> Died 1752 Shrewsbury, N.J. and Allee ? > >> > >> Joseph French Sr Son of Thomas French (3) born 31 Oct 1667 Nether > >Heyford, > >> England Died 1745 Moorestown, Burilington County, N.J. and Mary Allen. > >> > >> Thomas French (3) Son of Thomas French (2) born 29 Oct 1639 Nether > >Heyford, > >> England Died 3 may 1699 Rancocas, N.J. and Jane Atkins > >> > >> Thomas French (2) son of Thomas ffrench born 1611 Nether Heyford, > England > >> died 1673 Nether Heyford England and Sara Wood.>> > >> > >> Jeff, > >> You introduce as fact that Josesph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH did not go to > >SC > >> as their four sons and one daughter did. I belive that I have a > reference > >> that says that Joseph and Hannah were in SC. Your record contends that > >> Joseph, Jr. died in 1760 in NJ. This means that their oldest child, > >Lafford, > >> was 7 at the time and Sarah, William, Joseph (III) and Simon went to SC > >with > >> their mother or went on their own. I think that 1760 is about the time > >> Joseph, Jr. and family left NJ for SC It seems to me that the date of > >Joseph, > >> Jr's death is challengeable. Would you provide me with a documentation > >> reference? > >> > >> The record shows that Joseph FRENCH, Sr applied for permission to marry > in > >> 1722 and that the Friends (Quakers) permission was granted. Joseph, Jr. > >was > >> born some time after that, so I suspect that 1727 is correct, but I have > >> never seen such a reference. I could use a referece here also. > >> > >> Thanks for the effort you are making to keep the record for all of us to > >use. > >> > >> Incidentally, I am of the Joseph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH line thru their > >> son, William, and his daughter, Jane, who m. Captain John DENTON. I do > >not > >> have the wife of William or his place/date of death. Could use some > help. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Hugh > >> > > >

Ok. I'm over it. All you people on all of these lists can do is bicker. Have a nice life. I'm outta here. -----Original Message----- From: jlfrench <jlfrench@iname.com> To: FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com <FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Re: Lafford (1753 NJ-1834 NC) >I did not introduce as fact that Joseph and Hannah Horn French did not go to >SC. You are full of it. No where in my message did I say or reference >anything about Joseph and Hannah Horn French going or not going to SC. > >You need to read better before jumping on my case. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <HFTHusma@aol.com> >To: <FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 2:22 PM >Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Re: Lafford (1753 NJ-1834 NC) > > >> In a message dated 5/19/00 1:41:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> jlfrench@iname.com writes: >> >> << Lafford French born 1753 Raritans Landing, N.J. died 9 Nov 1834 >Rutherford >> County, NC Son of Joseph French Jr born 1727 Raritans Landing, N.J. died >> 1760 N.J. and Hannah Horn born 1731 Raritans Landing, N.J. >> >> Joseph French Jr Son of Joseph French Sr born 23 Jul 1698 Shrewsbury, >N.J. >> Died 1752 Shrewsbury, N.J. and Allee ? >> >> Joseph French Sr Son of Thomas French (3) born 31 Oct 1667 Nether >Heyford, >> England Died 1745 Moorestown, Burilington County, N.J. and Mary Allen. >> >> Thomas French (3) Son of Thomas French (2) born 29 Oct 1639 Nether >Heyford, >> England Died 3 may 1699 Rancocas, N.J. and Jane Atkins >> >> Thomas French (2) son of Thomas ffrench born 1611 Nether Heyford, England >> died 1673 Nether Heyford England and Sara Wood.>> >> >> Jeff, >> You introduce as fact that Josesph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH did not go to >SC >> as their four sons and one daughter did. I belive that I have a reference >> that says that Joseph and Hannah were in SC. Your record contends that >> Joseph, Jr. died in 1760 in NJ. This means that their oldest child, >Lafford, >> was 7 at the time and Sarah, William, Joseph (III) and Simon went to SC >with >> their mother or went on their own. I think that 1760 is about the time >> Joseph, Jr. and family left NJ for SC It seems to me that the date of >Joseph, >> Jr's death is challengeable. Would you provide me with a documentation >> reference? >> >> The record shows that Joseph FRENCH, Sr applied for permission to marry in >> 1722 and that the Friends (Quakers) permission was granted. Joseph, Jr. >was >> born some time after that, so I suspect that 1727 is correct, but I have >> never seen such a reference. I could use a referece here also. >> >> Thanks for the effort you are making to keep the record for all of us to >use. >> >> Incidentally, I am of the Joseph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH line thru their >> son, William, and his daughter, Jane, who m. Captain John DENTON. I do >not >> have the wife of William or his place/date of death. Could use some help. >> >> Best regards, >> Hugh >> >

I did not introduce as fact that Joseph and Hannah Horn French did not go to SC. You are full of it. No where in my message did I say or reference anything about Joseph and Hannah Horn French going or not going to SC. You need to read better before jumping on my case. ----- Original Message ----- From: <HFTHusma@aol.com> To: <FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Re: Lafford (1753 NJ-1834 NC) > In a message dated 5/19/00 1:41:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jlfrench@iname.com writes: > > << Lafford French born 1753 Raritans Landing, N.J. died 9 Nov 1834 Rutherford > County, NC Son of Joseph French Jr born 1727 Raritans Landing, N.J. died > 1760 N.J. and Hannah Horn born 1731 Raritans Landing, N.J. > > Joseph French Jr Son of Joseph French Sr born 23 Jul 1698 Shrewsbury, N.J. > Died 1752 Shrewsbury, N.J. and Allee ? > > Joseph French Sr Son of Thomas French (3) born 31 Oct 1667 Nether Heyford, > England Died 1745 Moorestown, Burilington County, N.J. and Mary Allen. > > Thomas French (3) Son of Thomas French (2) born 29 Oct 1639 Nether Heyford, > England Died 3 may 1699 Rancocas, N.J. and Jane Atkins > > Thomas French (2) son of Thomas ffrench born 1611 Nether Heyford, England > died 1673 Nether Heyford England and Sara Wood.>> > > Jeff, > You introduce as fact that Josesph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH did not go to SC > as their four sons and one daughter did. I belive that I have a reference > that says that Joseph and Hannah were in SC. Your record contends that > Joseph, Jr. died in 1760 in NJ. This means that their oldest child, Lafford, > was 7 at the time and Sarah, William, Joseph (III) and Simon went to SC with > their mother or went on their own. I think that 1760 is about the time > Joseph, Jr. and family left NJ for SC It seems to me that the date of Joseph, > Jr's death is challengeable. Would you provide me with a documentation > reference? > > The record shows that Joseph FRENCH, Sr applied for permission to marry in > 1722 and that the Friends (Quakers) permission was granted. Joseph, Jr. was > born some time after that, so I suspect that 1727 is correct, but I have > never seen such a reference. I could use a referece here also. > > Thanks for the effort you are making to keep the record for all of us to use. > > Incidentally, I am of the Joseph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH line thru their > son, William, and his daughter, Jane, who m. Captain John DENTON. I do not > have the wife of William or his place/date of death. Could use some help. > > Best regards, > Hugh >

I thought Hugh's message was in keeping with our efforts to keep the records straight....I don't believe he "jumped on you" as you say......we need to make sure the records we leave behind help future genealogists, not hinder them....I think we've all been on some wind goose chases because of erroneous information left by previous researchers. I don't think he meant you any "slight"......Jan Lund -----Original Message----- From: jlfrench <jlfrench@iname.com> To: FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com <FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, May 22, 2000 10:49 PM Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Re: Lafford (1753 NJ-1834 NC) >I did not introduce as fact that Joseph and Hannah Horn French did not go to >SC. You are full of it. No where in my message did I say or reference >anything about Joseph and Hannah Horn French going or not going to SC. > >You need to read better before jumping on my case. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <HFTHusma@aol.com> >To: <FRENCH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 2:22 PM >Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Re: Lafford (1753 NJ-1834 NC) > > >> In a message dated 5/19/00 1:41:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> jlfrench@iname.com writes: >> >> << Lafford French born 1753 Raritans Landing, N.J. died 9 Nov 1834 >Rutherford >> County, NC Son of Joseph French Jr born 1727 Raritans Landing, N.J. died >> 1760 N.J. and Hannah Horn born 1731 Raritans Landing, N.J. >> >> Joseph French Jr Son of Joseph French Sr born 23 Jul 1698 Shrewsbury, >N.J. >> Died 1752 Shrewsbury, N.J. and Allee ? >> >> Joseph French Sr Son of Thomas French (3) born 31 Oct 1667 Nether >Heyford, >> England Died 1745 Moorestown, Burilington County, N.J. and Mary Allen. >> >> Thomas French (3) Son of Thomas French (2) born 29 Oct 1639 Nether >Heyford, >> England Died 3 may 1699 Rancocas, N.J. and Jane Atkins >> >> Thomas French (2) son of Thomas ffrench born 1611 Nether Heyford, England >> died 1673 Nether Heyford England and Sara Wood.>> >> >> Jeff, >> You introduce as fact that Josesph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH did not go to >SC >> as their four sons and one daughter did. I belive that I have a reference >> that says that Joseph and Hannah were in SC. Your record contends that >> Joseph, Jr. died in 1760 in NJ. This means that their oldest child, >Lafford, >> was 7 at the time and Sarah, William, Joseph (III) and Simon went to SC >with >> their mother or went on their own. I think that 1760 is about the time >> Joseph, Jr. and family left NJ for SC It seems to me that the date of >Joseph, >> Jr's death is challengeable. Would you provide me with a documentation >> reference? >> >> The record shows that Joseph FRENCH, Sr applied for permission to marry in >> 1722 and that the Friends (Quakers) permission was granted. Joseph, Jr. >was >> born some time after that, so I suspect that 1727 is correct, but I have >> never seen such a reference. I could use a referece here also. >> >> Thanks for the effort you are making to keep the record for all of us to >use. >> >> Incidentally, I am of the Joseph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH line thru their >> son, William, and his daughter, Jane, who m. Captain John DENTON. I do >not >> have the wife of William or his place/date of death. Could use some help. >> >> Best regards, >> Hugh >> >

We have corresponded several times. It sounds as though I may simply have George's birth year wrong. I do have his death as 4/4/1844 and Elizabeth born in 1798, so 1795 makes more sense. Thanks for your help. Now I wonder who George from the Hardin County marriage records is and where he fits in this FRENCH puzzle. Uhmmm..... PKane63794@aol.com wrote: > In my Bryan Family Genealogy, I have George born in 1795. He married first > Elizabeth Lee, and 2nd. Margaret Geoghegan on 5/4/1827. He died in 1844. > Jackie

Hmmm, and Pease/Peace is one of my allied lines!! Imagine that. I wonder if Rep. Pease, if from the same family, knows of his heritage! Obviously, he didn't inherit the genealogy gene. What was the source on this story? Does anyone know? I ask because there have been some very erroneous reports regarding access of information on the net. I'm just wondering if this is one of them. Sounds rather far fetched. Thank you for passing this along John. Marion Scherer

Rootsweb Listers everywhere. I have never forward something like this to any of the Rootsweb list that I am subscribed to. But there is always a first time for everything. It came in on the Green List and I wanted to be sure you all know about it. I mean, we're all related in one way or another to everyone else. As you can tell by all the lists I subscribe to. John Green. -----Original Message----- From: ALLAGREEN@aol.com <ALLAGREEN@aol.com> To: GREEN-L@rootsweb.com <GREEN-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, May 20, 2000 12:49 AM Subject: [GREEN-L] (no subject) >Dear Friends: > >I thought that maybe it was not possible for a member of Congress to further >amaze me with his stupidity, but this has managed to make me rethink that >possibility. > >Allan E. Green > >New Privacy Threat: Genealogy? >by Declan McCullagh >3:00 p.m. May. 18, 2000 PDT > >Just when you thought there was nothing new to say about the oft-cited >privacy threats that Americans face, along comes Congress with another >worry: genealogy. > >During a privacy hearing Thursday before a House Judiciary subcommittee, >Rep. Ed Pease (R-Ind.) said the growing number of websites that allow >people to trace their families' history was a threat that called for >legislative action. > >"There are some commercial ventures now providing information on this >subject ... oftentimes genealogical information involves a mother's maiden >name, and that is often used by many as a password," Pease said. > >Genealogy.com, for instance, says it has 470 million names in its database. >It allows you to search someone's family tree using their full or partial >name. > >Clinton administration representatives -- who were planning to testify >before the panel about cookies and industry self-regulation -- were caught >completely off-guard by Pease's comments. > >"This is not really anything I've heard about yet," replied Andrew Pincus, >general counsel to the U.S. Department of Commerce. > >"We're dealing mainly with commercial sites, and not these," said Jodie >Bernstein, director of the bureau of consumer protection at the Federal >Trade Commission. > >Pease shot back that "a growing number of commercial ventures" provided >such potentially troubling information and he'd "sure appreciate" it if >the FTC would investigate. > >To survive a free speech challenge, any legal restrictions Congress imposes >would have to comply with the First Amendment, which limits government >controls on publications and websites. > >"Rep. Pease has gotten it all backwards. The inherent insecurity of using >mother's maiden name as a password means that the practice of doing so must >stop, just as most of us know better than to use our birthdays or first >names as any form of password," said Stanton McCandlish, an amateur genealogy >researcher and spokesman for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. > >"Genealogists are neither a new threat, nor any threat at all. Mothers' >maiden names are available from numerous public sources, while the security >risk of using them for passwords is increasingly well known. (Such a bill) >will not withstand even a cursory First Amendment challenge in court," >McCandlish said. >

In my Bryan Family Genealogy, I have George born in 1795. He married first Elizabeth Lee, and 2nd. Margaret Geoghegan on 5/4/1827. He died in 1844. Jackie

In a message dated 5/19/00 1:41:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jlfrench@iname.com writes: << Lafford French born 1753 Raritans Landing, N.J. died 9 Nov 1834 Rutherford County, NC Son of Joseph French Jr born 1727 Raritans Landing, N.J. died 1760 N.J. and Hannah Horn born 1731 Raritans Landing, N.J. Joseph French Jr Son of Joseph French Sr born 23 Jul 1698 Shrewsbury, N.J. Died 1752 Shrewsbury, N.J. and Allee ? Joseph French Sr Son of Thomas French (3) born 31 Oct 1667 Nether Heyford, England Died 1745 Moorestown, Burilington County, N.J. and Mary Allen. Thomas French (3) Son of Thomas French (2) born 29 Oct 1639 Nether Heyford, England Died 3 may 1699 Rancocas, N.J. and Jane Atkins Thomas French (2) son of Thomas ffrench born 1611 Nether Heyford, England died 1673 Nether Heyford England and Sara Wood.>> Jeff, You introduce as fact that Josesph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH did not go to SC as their four sons and one daughter did. I belive that I have a reference that says that Joseph and Hannah were in SC. Your record contends that Joseph, Jr. died in 1760 in NJ. This means that their oldest child, Lafford, was 7 at the time and Sarah, William, Joseph (III) and Simon went to SC with their mother or went on their own. I think that 1760 is about the time Joseph, Jr. and family left NJ for SC It seems to me that the date of Joseph, Jr's death is challengeable. Would you provide me with a documentation reference? The record shows that Joseph FRENCH, Sr applied for permission to marry in 1722 and that the Friends (Quakers) permission was granted. Joseph, Jr. was born some time after that, so I suspect that 1727 is correct, but I have never seen such a reference. I could use a referece here also. Thanks for the effort you are making to keep the record for all of us to use. Incidentally, I am of the Joseph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH line thru their son, William, and his daughter, Jane, who m. Captain John DENTON. I do not have the wife of William or his place/date of death. Could use some help. Best regards, Hugh