Sorry about my last post....getting too late to be on this computer. When I saw LA I immediately thought of Los Angeles - not Louisiana! Duh.h.h. Please excuse! Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] New Orleans > Yes, Rebecca I am down here in the heat. They say that a cold front came > through last night. If so, it cooled us about one degree. > > My French line came out of NJ to NC to GA to SC to TN to AR. > Julia > > In a message dated 7/18/2004 4:42:51 PM Central Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > Julia, I didn't know you lived in New Orleans. I'm in Lake Charles, LA. My > FRENCH came out of Virginia and ended up in Arkansas. > > Rebecca Pack > >

Julia, I live in Southern California (Whittier) also and it has really been hot this week. We were up in Big Bear for a week last and it was heavenly.....such pretty blue sky. And cool at night.....good sleeping weather! Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2004 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] New Orleans > Julia, > Your "internet" point is well taken. I did not attach much to the Mississippi > or Uriah connection, but wandered if you or others had encountered it. It was > the additional children names that caught my attention. They, as I said, > filled a gap in birth dates. Dates fit, location did not. If the children were > born in SC or GA, it would work. > One of the names was Thomas, which is a name I asked about some weeks > ago....."Thomas" who died on the steamboat trip home from New Orleans at end of war > of 1812. That Thomas was with Gideon, Samuel C. and Marshal in the same company > from Stewart County. I havn't been able to connect that Thomas to a father, > but I "suspect" that he "may" have been a son of Samuel (Jr). Could also have > been son of Thomas (Samuel's brother), or unrelated....that's why I asked. > By the way, In another correspondence, you mentioned something about the heat > in LA.. I can relate to that, we live on the Washington coast. It reached > near 80 the other day. Thought we would die. > Thanks, > Garland > >

Jan, Lafford's pension application doesn't have the Bible record in it and it isn't quoted. And since they didn't have copy machines back in 1830, even if it were there it would be a hand written copy or only exerpts as I have in some of the pensions that I have ordered. We are talking about copies of the real bible which were submitted with the application to the DAR. Of course, you are correct if they didn't require the proofs, but with a number as high as 336354 I think that it wouldn't have been too long ago. A funny story. Lafford's sister, Sarah French Moore, widow of Hugh Moore said in her application for the Widow's Pension that the family bible had the pages torn out over the years by the children and finally were lost. I can't imagine that happening since they only had 15 children. Julia In a message dated 7/19/2004 9:16:03 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Just a question. What is the advantage of ordering from the DAR versus the National Archives. I have ordered from the National Archives and it gives you much "original" writing on the documents including who applied for the pension, maybe a bible page, maybe a sister, brother or son gives a deposition about where they might have been married, the service your ancestor served, where and also where he was discharged. These are copies of original pages, not what someone typed up. I have also been told that the prerequisites for joining the DAR was quite different in the old days. Now, the documentation HAS to be proven before you can become a member. Just wondering if I'm missing out on something or if the National Archives is the best place to get these documents. They sure are exciting to see in the old handwriting, telling what they were paid, etc. Jan Lund [email protected]

It is possible that descendant's documentation provided to the DAR will contain information that was not provided to the government when the veteran/spouse submitted their application for a pension. I have seen nothing that references a Lafford French Bible record being included in the NARA records nor any documentation relating to his children. If a Lafford French Bible can be found in the DAR documentation supplied by Mable Berry Clark, it will be great documentation of his children. -----Original Message----- From: Janice Lund [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 9:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FRENCH-L] DAR versus National Archives records Just a question. What is the advantage of ordering from the DAR versus the National Archives. I have ordered from the National Archives and it gives you much "original" writing on the documents including who applied for the pension, maybe a bible page, maybe a sister, brother or son gives a deposition about where they might have been married, the service your ancestor served, where and also where he was discharged. These are copies of original pages, not what someone typed up. I have also been told that the prerequisites for joining the DAR was quite different in the old days. Now, the documentation HAS to be proven before you can become a member. Just wondering if I'm missing out on something or if the National Archives is the best place to get these documents. They sure are exciting to see in the old handwriting, telling what they were paid, etc. Jan Lund [email protected]

Hi , Anyone have family from Eaton Corners in Canada? Some came down through NH. to RI. Thanks, Donna in RI

Ok, I will print this out and let her see it. Thanks. Dorothy Tapping > I would be interested in the outline tree. Aaaron French 1739. I descend > through Joseph French and Hannah Horn.If I can help you let me know.

We must keep our fingers crossed that they do find the document, also. Because they will keep my money in any case. I will let you all know as soon as it arrives and will divide the number of people who want a copy into $30.00 and each will be charged that amount, plus postage. Julia In a message dated 7/19/2004 4:32:58 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Julia Thank you for saving the list the $10. Please let me know how much you are going to charge for copies. Thank you Lillian

Just a question. What is the advantage of ordering from the DAR versus the National Archives. I have ordered from the National Archives and it gives you much "original" writing on the documents including who applied for the pension, maybe a bible page, maybe a sister, brother or son gives a deposition about where they might have been married, the service your ancestor served, where and also where he was discharged. These are copies of original pages, not what someone typed up. I have also been told that the prerequisites for joining the DAR was quite different in the old days. Now, the documentation HAS to be proven before you can become a member. Just wondering if I'm missing out on something or if the National Archives is the best place to get these documents. They sure are exciting to see in the old handwriting, telling what they were paid, etc. Jan Lund [email protected]

Hi I would be interested in the outline tree. Aaaron French 1739. I descend through Joseph French and Hannah Horn.If I can help you let me know. Thanks Alice Henderson

In a message dated 7/19/04 3:18:18 PM, [email protected] writes: << Lafford French Bible record cited in DAR National # 336354, Mable Berry Clark, Supplemental for Lafford French. >> __________ This usually means that Mable Berry Clark has submitted other earlier lineages for DAR membership and this one was a supplemental, or additional, patriot ancestor. Best regards, Hugh

Yes, it would be $40.00 if I weren't a member. Julia In a message dated 7/19/2004 4:17:44 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Julia iif you are a member of the DAR do you still have to pay for the lookup? Thank you Lillian

I do not know where an outline is, Gen Circles has a start for you, there are 5 entries here-http://www.gencircles.com/globaltree/gosearch?f=aaron&l=french&by=1739& ba=0&bp=&fa=&dy=&da=0&mo=&dp=&sp=&t=Marriage&oy=&oa=0&op=&g.x=8&g.y=8 Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Descendents of Aaron French, Sr. > Hi > > I would be interested in the outline tree. Aaaron French 1739. I descend > through Joseph French and Hannah Horn.If I can help you let me know. > > Thanks > > Alice Henderson > >

Hi, I am new to this list. I have a friend who is scared of computers. So she asked me to send this. First I don't have birth dates for all these. Dinford Haymord French Wife: Millie Arminabel Son: Vester French Wife: Rebecca Ring Sons: James Vester French Born: abt 1926 Died: abt 1990 - 1991 Forest Dinford French Born: abt 1926 he was born after James Died: abt 1984 -1985 Oh, this family was either in Obion County, TN (Union City area) or in St. Louis county, MO (Near St Louis). Now she needs to find the correct birthdates for the sons. Any help would be appreciated. If someone needs b. dates on the gm or gf or m and f let me know. Thanks so much! Dorothy Tapping Brown, Kannenberg, Luxton, Cox (just a few)

Okay, I will order it and offer copies to all those who want them, for a price. <g> Julia In a message dated 7/19/2004 2:22:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Julia, I will kick in $10.00. Best, Hugh

In a message dated 7/19/2004 2:18:18 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > What we need from the DAR records is a copy of some of the documentation that was provided to support the application -- specifically, the copy of the family bible. I have never ordered DAR information direct from them. What would be included for $30.00? It looks like Mable Berry Clark submitted Supplemental information after her original application -- or am I misunderstanding what the following means? < It means that Mable joined the DAR on another ancestor and after she became a member, she submitted an application for an additional ancestor (Lafford French) which is called a supplemental. Every statement in an application must be documented for every generation and the documents are included with the application when it is submitted. In this case, Lafford's bible. The $30.00 is for the search and includes up to 10 pages of copy. They have over a million applications which contain many documents, so the search isn't easy. They are working on getting all papers scanned to computers, but that will take some time. After that the searching and printing will be easy. Julia

Julia, I'll put up $10.00 too. Jeanette -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 2:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Lafford FRENCH family bible In a message dated 7/19/04 2:52:25 PM, [email protected] writes: << I, just, went to the DAR website and it says that they charge $30.00 to search the document files from DAR applications. So if anyone wants to split the cost with me to order Lafford's bible record, I will order it. Julia >> __________________ Julia, I will kick in $10.00. Best, Hugh

In a message dated 7/19/04 2:52:25 PM, [email protected] writes: << I, just, went to the DAR website and it says that they charge $30.00 to search the document files from DAR applications. So if anyone wants to split the cost with me to order Lafford's bible record, I will order it. Julia >> __________________ Julia, I will kick in $10.00. Best, Hugh

I, just, went to the DAR website and it says that they charge $30.00 to search the document files from DAR applications. So if anyone wants to split the cost with me to order Lafford's bible record, I will order it. Julia

Julia Thank you for saving the list the $10. Please let me know how much you are going to charge for copies. Thank you Lillian --- [email protected] wrote: > Yes, it would be $40.00 if I weren't a member. > Julia > > In a message dated 7/19/2004 4:17:44 PM Central > Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > Julia iif you are a member of the DAR do you still > have to pay for the lookup? > > Thank you > Lillian > >

228. Lafford FRENCH was born 1753 in Raritan Landing, NJ. He died 11 Sep 1834 in Rutherford Co., NC. Lafford married Hester FEAMSTER before 1788. [Parents] All of the childrens' birth dates are from the Lafford French family Bible which Mable Berry Clark used for the DAR application. 229. Hester FEAMSTER died 1803 in Cowpens, NC, SC?. This is very interesting, as Lafford French is in the DAR Patriot Index, but only with this second wife. This must be a very old Application. I am a member of the DAR I will see if I can get a copy of the Bible record. The DAR has raised the price of ordering an old application from $5.00 to $10.00 and I don't think it would yield enough data to make it worthwhile as it would only contain the line that Mable used for membership. But if you want me to order it, let me know. Julia