Hi, I am reserching the French Family, (England & Wales) John Edwards Wales UK

Yes! Then, anybody have a FRENCH from Wales/England in mid-1800's? Sandra Shaw/Schoch Hartwick

I am looking at John French Thomason, the youngest son of William THOMASON of Tennessee and his wife, Sarah. Of particular interest is John's middle name, FRENCH. William had another son named Daniel whose wife was Mary Jane DENTON. Mary Jane was the d/o John and Jane (French) DENTON. This means the only FRENCH relative in the pedigree of John French THOMASON was his brother's wife's mother (no blood). Another possibility is that there was a Hugh FRENCH, neighbor to the THOMASONs and the DENTONs in Warren Co., TN in 1812. John French THOMASON wasn't born until 1818. This might reflect a strong friendship among the FRENCH, THOMASON and DENTON families. By 1829 Daniel and Mary (Denton) THOMASON and her parents, John and Jane (French) DENTON went to AR while John French THOMASON settled in AL where he subsequently married and died. An unknown may play a role. William THOMASON's wife's surname is unknown. She is only known as Sarah. William FRENCH had a daughter named Sarah, but she married John ELLEDGE. There may have been other FRENCHs with a daughter, Sarah, though I have found none in my data. None of these theories is very substantial. Any thoughts? Best regards, Hugh

That is an option on your personal computer. You must change the setting yourself. Julia In a message dated 7/28/2004 4:53:15 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: When this site 1st originated, one could print out the 'test results by matches' screen in color. Now I can't. I questioned Tripod but they advised me to contact David, which I did. I never had a reply as to why I can't get the color. I'm wondering if it is just me? Has anyone else had this problem & is there a solution? Barbara

I was doing a manual lookup for someone on 1910 NY US Census City of Troy , Rensselaer Co, NY roll 1070, bk 2 9th Ward, when happened across the following in case anyone is interested: Walter H French age 50, mar 1, 13 chdrn, born Ma, fthr Maine, mthr Ireland emply turner in collar factory (Troy was known as the Collar City) Emma age 35, mar 1, 13 chldrn, born NY fthr/mthr French Canadian emply at home-ironed collar's Franci(e)s 11 daug Peter 8 Emma 6 Charles 4 Joseph Mercier brthr 'n law age 37 born NY parts both French/Canadian fam #110 535 1st St-front (around corner from Madison) Barbara

When this site 1st originated, one could print out the 'test results by matches' screen in color. Now I can't. I questioned Tripod but they advised me to contact David, which I did. I never had a reply as to why I can't get the color. I'm wondering if it is just me? Has anyone else had this problem & is there a solution? Barbara

Hello all I just checked out the DNA site and looked at the family groups. One in particular caught me. James French Sr. b possibly in Andover Essex Mass d. NH. 1817. Does any one have his descendants? I am looking for a James French b abt 1786 in prob. Andover. He married an Abigail Fletcher b abt 1765 in prob. Ipswich Ma. The family moved to Norway Me in Oxford County in abt 1798. Children: James Jr b 1785 Jacob b 1788 Esther b 1792 Sarah b 1794 Charles b 1796 George b 1799 Alice b 1802 Clarissa b 1805 James the father died according to the History of Norway Me in 1812 and his wife Abigail in 1827 but there is no burrial record for them and can find no burrial site. Know were his children are burried. Thank you in advance for any help Kim >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] DNA results >Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 10:47:55 EDT >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by mc6-f36.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:59:29 -0700 >Received: (from [email protected])by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id >i6SEm7KT009735;Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:48:07 -0600 >X-Message-Info: QIy1oIULmHd7ZeQQ6tBh8hRSjdO0NsCW >Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:48:07 -0600 >X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Wed Jul 28 08:48:06 2004 >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Old-To: [email protected] >X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5112 >X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 >Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Resent-From: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/7695 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: [email protected] >Return-Path: [email protected] >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2004 14:59:29.0738 (UTC) >FILETIME=[7BC03AA0:01C474B3] > >Hugh, If you go to the DNA website and click on "Test Results by Matches", >then click on the Name "Thomas" which is the first one in aqua, it will >show the >lineage. The names in the matches chart are always the earliest know >ancestor. >http://dnafrench.tripod.com/ > >Julia > >In a message dated 7/28/2004 6:48:55 AM Central Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: >Julia, >Looking at the DNA display at <http://dnafrench.tripod.com/dna/id10.html> I >read that there are about 8 matches which includes Thomas of NJ, but no >Lafford, Sr. is listed. >I apparently am not looking at the same data as you. Can you clear this up >for me. >

Hugh, If you go to the DNA website and click on "Test Results by Matches", then click on the Name "Thomas" which is the first one in aqua, it will show the lineage. The names in the matches chart are always the earliest know ancestor. http://dnafrench.tripod.com/ Julia In a message dated 7/28/2004 6:48:55 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Julia, Looking at the DNA display at <http://dnafrench.tripod.com/dna/id10.html> I read that there are about 8 matches which includes Thomas of NJ, but no Lafford, Sr. is listed. I apparently am not looking at the same data as you. Can you clear this up for me.

Dear List-------- I wholeheartedly agree with Hugh. Ralph Banks, Austin, TX In a message dated 7/28/04 9:29:05 AM, [email protected] writes: << All, The FRENCH-L has been exceptionally active over the past month. Other List to which I subscribe have been pretty much dormant. In any event, it has been abundantly clear to me that progress is being made in the arena of FRENCH genealogy. Because of the multitude of FRENCH-L messages, it would be useful if the "Thank You and such messages" were directed to a particular subscriber rather than to the whole FRENCH-L. When one sees a subject line of interest, one expects to get some substantive data, only to find that some grateful recipient is acknowledging or thanking someone for a piece of information that is not cited. Everyone enjoys courtesy, but it can be limited to the two people most involved. I suppose, if one asks the question, who needs this message?, the non-genealogical message problem would be solved. What do you think? Best regards, Hugh <<<<<<<

All, The FRENCH-L has been exceptionally active over the past month. Other List to which I subscribe have been pretty much dormant. In any event, it has been abundantly clear to me that progress is being made in the arena of FRENCH genealogy. Because of the multitude of FRENCH-L messages, it would be useful if the "Thank You and such messages" were directed to a particular subscriber rather than to the whole FRENCH-L. When one sees a subject line of interest, one expects to get some substantive data, only to find that some grateful recipient is acknowledging or thanking someone for a piece of information that is not cited. Everyone enjoys courtesy, but it can be limited to the two people most involved. I suppose, if one asks the question, who needs this message?, the non-genealogical message problem would be solved. What do you think? Best regards, Hugh

Thanks Judy...I will chew on this info for awhile and see what I can figure out. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith J. French" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:43 AM Subject: [FRENCH-L] Moses Ohio/Indiana > Here is another similar with similar children names: > > Name: Moses French > Age in 1860: 36 > Birthplace: Ohio > Home in 1860: Flinn, Lawrence, Indiana > Gender: Male > Value of real estate: View image > Post Office: Lesville > Roll: M653_276 > Page: 611 > Year: 1860 > Head of Household: Moses French > Household > Moses it looks both like age 26 or 36 Master ____ cant read. Margaret A. > Female 26 or 36? Wm? 19 deaf and dumb, farm labor, W. M. 17 same, Alvin or > Almin W cant read 15, Amanda 12, Savilla 8 or 9, John B. 2. The age of > children were older for a parent being 26 so Moses could be 36 as stated > this Margaret looks 26 but cannot tell. There is a census where it shows > Moses as a widow too. The above except Moses born in Indiana. > > > Now another Moses for 1850 born in Ohio age 39 possible wife listed below > says Mary A. age 27 born in Indiana: > > Name: Moses French (shows Mill Wright) > Age: 39 > Estimated Birth Year: 1810 > Birth Place: Ohio > Gender: Male > Home in 1850 > (City,County,State): Clear Creek, Monroe, Indiana > Page: 320 > Roll: M432_161 > Her name is Mary A. age 27 children listed William M. 9, Wesley M 7, boy > with name I cannot read starting with an A initial W age 5, Girl with A 2, > then 3 other persons Lydia Peeler, Barzilla Willey and child female cant > read name. All born in Indiana. > > So now that I have confused you and me as well, I am going to stop. Hope > some leads in here. Judith >

In a message dated 7/28/04 1:56:06 AM, [email protected] writes: << In a message dated 7/28/2004 12:28:39 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I was studying the DNA results -- is there only the one person (family group #116) who has been tested that traces their ancestors back to Thomas FRENCH the immigrant from Nether Heyford, Northamptonshire? < Yes, he is a descendant of Lafford French, Sr. Julia >> _______________ Julia, Looking at the DNA display at <http://dnafrench.tripod.com/dna/id10.html> I read that there are about 8 matches which includes Thomas of NJ, but no Lafford, Sr. is listed. I apparently am not looking at the same data as you. Can you clear this up for me. As I am not of FRENCH direct lineal male descent after William5 (Joseph4, Joseph3, Thomas2, Thomas1) my interest is in this linkage. Best regards, Hugh

Hi Mara, Could you tell me if there is a chart including Frenches from the New England states? My Frenches came from England to Canada (Eaton Corners, Qubec CA.) to NH,Vt,MA,and some to RI. I have never run into charts before, so don't know just how they are set up. Thank you, Donna in RI

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In a message dated 7/28/2004 12:28:39 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I was studying the DNA results -- is there only the one person (family group #116) who has been tested that traces their ancestors back to Thomas FRENCH the immigrant from Nether Heyford, Northamptonshire? < Yes, he is a descendant of Lafford French, Sr. Julia

Richard Day writes: "John J. French was born July 22, 1788 in New York. Some census records indicate he was born in New Hampshire or Vermont. His obituary said New York. In some records, his middle initial is a "T" or an "I". He married a MARY ACKERMAN (born March 4, 1792 in New York) on June 22, 1808 in New York. I have not found this marriage record. In 1810, he joined the Masonic Order in NYC." Richard, Have you checked with the NYC Masonic Lodge to see if they have any information on your John J. French? I was able to obtain information through the Masonic Lodge in Ireland and in Washington Co. PA relating to one of my ancestors--1700 and early 1800's. Not sure what information they will have, but it might help. It would be interesting to know how many FRENCH's belonged prior to the time your John joined in 1810. -----Original Message----- From: Richard Day [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:34 PM

I was studying the DNA results -- is there only the one person (family group #116) who has been tested that traces their ancestors back to Thomas FRENCH the immigrant from Nether Heyford, Northamptonshire?

All these discussions on the French mailing list has encouraged me to post my query for assistance once more. I'm sure there is someone out there listening in who comes from the same line and may have information which could help me get past my "brick wall". John J. French was born July 22, 1788 in New York. Some census records indicate he was born in New Hampshire or Vermont. His obituary said New York. In some records, his middle initial is a "T" or an "I". He married a MARY ACKERMAN (born March 4, 1792 in New York) on June 22, 1808 in New York. I have not found this marriage record. In 1810, he joined the Masonic Order in NYC. He served in the War of 1812. In 1817, he and his wife and one son, JEFFERSON A. FRENCH, left New York for southern Indiana. They settled in Dearborn county and were listed in census records living in Lawrenceburg, Dearborn, Indiana, until about 1830. At that time they relocated to near Rising Sun, Indiana. At that time, it was in Dearborn county, but later was in Ohio county when it was formed from Dearborn. John French was a fairly well to do farmer. He was a member of the M.E. Church where he was baptized in 1839. He died on April 23, 1874. He and Mary had a large family. Those which I have identified are as follows: Jefferson A. ( served in Civil War); William; Indiana; George Washington; John S.; Lafayette Porter; James; Mary; Loring; and at least two unknown daughters. I know this is a long winded message, but I am hoping that someone out there might recognize something and provide some information which will help me identify my French branch. Unfortunately, I have not been able to locate a male French from my line to participate in the DNA project. Thanks for any and all help. Richard Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith J. French" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:18 PM Subject: RE: [FRENCH-L] John FRENCH, died in 1713 at Woodbridge, MiddlesexCounty, NJ > Great News! Thank you Mara and welcome back to the States! Judith > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mara French [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 8:07 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] John FRENCH, died in 1713 at Woodbridge, > MiddlesexCounty, NJ > > Judith, this line (FFA Chart #188) has been put together by > Jim Gunderson, and is not related to the Quaker line of Thomas > French of NJ. More later. Mara French > > on 7/25/04 1:55 PM, Judith J. French at [email protected] wrote: > > > Thank you, this is my line. Judith J. French > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 5:15 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [FRENCH-L] John FRENCH, died in 1713 at Woodbridge, Middlesex > > County, NJ > > > > The IGI information may be in error. > > > > Based on information found in a document of East Jersey Deed records, > dated > > 12 Dec, 1687, John French, mason, and wife, Susanna, are from Staten > Island. > > There are 3 separate entries for this date and it appears he was setting > up > > his affairs in Staten Island, where he was selling his property, in > > preparation for a move to East Jersey. He sold a Staten Island property to > > Peter Dassigney of Woodbridge, surgeon, and also gave him power of > attorney > > for the management of his affairs on Staten Island. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: J. Michael Frost [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 1:00 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [FRENCH-L] John FRENCH, died in 1713 at Woodbridge, Middlesex > > County, NJ > > > > > > According to the IGI, the John FRENCH who was in Woodbridge, Middlesex > > County, NJ as early as 1670, and who died there in 1713, was the same > > person as the John FRENCH who was the son of Thomas and Sara FRENCH, and > > who was born in 1651 in Nether Heyford, Northamptonshire, England. Is > > the IGI correct? If so, what is the proof of this relationship? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I have removed you from the list, however, I find it interesting that you think that it is, somehow, everyone on the FRENCH list's fault that you are subscribed. I wonder how you figured out how to do it and I wonder that you didn't think you would be getting mail when you subscribed. Julia French Wood In a message dated 7/27/2004 8:36:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: TAKE ME OFF YOUR MAILING LIST. I AM BEING INUNDATED WITH E-MAILS!

TAKE ME OFF YOUR MAILING LIST. I AM BEING INUNDATED BY E-MAILS!