While searching for William French (1804-1850) in Jeffersonville, Clark Co., IN I found William M. French in the 1840 US Census for IN in Dearborn County along with a George French. By 1850 US Census for IN William M. had moved to Jefferson Co. while George was still in Dearborn Co., IN I have assumed that William M and George were brothers - is there any information? Thanks Al.

Hi Mike , I would be interested in the article on Thomas French. Please send to [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) you , Donna

List, Is anyone researching the FRENCH line that lived in McKinney, Collin County, TX in the late 1900's? They have a son Jonathan FRENCH. J French -----Original Message----- From: EDWARD A SCRIVEN [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FRENCH-L] Robert Walter FRENCH I am again trying to find the elusive parents of Robert Walter FRENCH. He was born 22 Jul 1873 or 1876 (cannot confirm) in Missouri. Cannot find place. He lists his father's birth as Missouri and his mother's in Tennessee in one place, but on the 1930 Census he says they were both born in Tennessee. He married Emma Johanna Charlotty BERGENER in San Francisco on 5 Mar 1905. They had 2 children: Molly and Roy Walter. They divorced. I believe he married a Harriet Austin and may have had a daughter Bernice Estelle. He died in Albany, Alameda, California 11 Apr 1930. If anyone has information on him please contact me.

That's a good question. According to his obit, he was born July 22, 1788 in New York, but I have also seen census records which state he was born in New Hampshire or Vermont. As I may have stated, I've also got questions about his middle name. In census records, I've seen it as an "I", a "J", and a "T". handwriting is not as easy to read all the time on the PC.... Richard Day ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] William M. French > Where and when was your "John" born > Beverly French-Harms > >

Jon, about your first statement. "The possible connection of William #123 to Jacob #126" it is not a "possible connection" it is an absolute connection. DNA does't lie. To have only one mutation between them in all those generations means that the two participants have an ancestor in common. In case of your Jacob's. I, rarely, see one of those old verbal records that doesn't have some errors, but there could have been Jacobs in lines that weren't followed and everyone descended from the line doesn't have to be from the seventh Jacob, but could be from another brother of any upline. If I were you, I would order the DNA test kit and pay a visit to your 80 year old last living French male. Talk to him. Share your genealogy charts and research. Show him the DNA charts. Let him know how important he is to your search and proof. Show him how easy the test is (a simple brushing of the inner cheek) and tell him that it will be identified by a number and not his name. I am sure he will consent to do the test. BTW, the instructions say to do each cheek with 8 hours between samples, but I have done them at the same time and have gotten good results. Sometimes you can't be there 8 hours later. Just be sure they haven't had anything to eat or drink for at least 30 minutes before taking the sample. Good luck. Julia French Wood In a message dated 8/3/2004 9:36:04 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: The possible connection of William FSdna #123 to Jacob French FSdna #126 (which certainly appears as a distinct possibility) intrigues me. I believe my FRENCH link stems from William FRENCH b 18 Jul 1668, Billerica, MA, as follows: William, Jacob, Jacob, Jacob, Asa Mason, Lucina m. Alonzo WHITNEY, Ernest WHITNEY, Kenneth Whitney, Jonathan WHITNEY. In my grandmother's meticulous records, she states, "There is a verbal record that there were seven Jacob Frenchs in a direct and unbroken line (origin unknown) which ended in the Jacob recorded in the obituary of his son on the opposite page." If that statement is true, William does not fit in my line, however, he may have had a brother named Jacob, son of Jacob, son of Jacob FSdna #126, or some other connection. The coincidence of the first name Jacob is not something I can take lightly. My three Jacobs seem to be correct, as does the link to William, but this doesn't account for the family "verbal record" of seven Jacobs in a row. My documentation for Jacob being the son of William came from Henry Hazen's book on the history of Billerica. Of course, this may not be correct, but the three Jacobs down to Asa Mason are pretty well documented through several related families. Do any Listers have any related information or suggestions? As far as I know there is only one male FRENCH living from my last Jacob and he is in his 80s and not in good health and apparently unwilling to take the DNA test. Thanks for any assistance or suggestions. Jon Whitney

The possible connection of William FSdna #123 to Jacob French FSdna #126 (which certainly appears as a distinct possibility) intrigues me. I believe my FRENCH link stems from William FRENCH b 18 Jul 1668, Billerica, MA, as follows: William, Jacob, Jacob, Jacob, Asa Mason, Lucina m. Alonzo WHITNEY, Ernest WHITNEY, Kenneth Whitney, Jonathan WHITNEY. In my grandmother's meticulous records, she states, "There is a verbal record that there were seven Jacob Frenchs in a direct and unbroken line (origin unknown) which ended in the Jacob recorded in the obituary of his son on the opposite page." If that statement is true, William does not fit in my line, however, he may have had a brother named Jacob, son of Jacob, son of Jacob FSdna #126, or some other connection. The coincidence of the first name Jacob is not something I can take lightly. My three Jacobs seem to be correct, as does the link to William, but this doesn't account for the family "verbal record" of seven Jacobs in a row. My documentation for Jacob being the son of William came from Henry Hazen's book on the history of Billerica. Of course, this may not be correct, but the three Jacobs down to Asa Mason are pretty well documented through several related families. Do any Listers have any related information or suggestions? As far as I know there is only one male FRENCH living from my last Jacob and he is in his 80s and not in good health and apparently unwilling to take the DNA test. Thanks for any assistance or suggestions. Jon Whitney > From: "TUNDRA" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 23:42:48 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [FRENCH-L] William French of Billerica, MA > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 21:42:51 -0600 > > An old topic with a new twist - > Was Richard French of Marshfield a brother of William French of Billerica? > > FFA http://www.frenchfamilyassoc.com/ > FSdna http://dnafrench.tripod.com/id1.html > > Richard French, FFA chart #6, FSdna #131 > born: Coggeshall, Essex, Eng > died: 14dec1688, Marshfield, MA > > William French, FFA chart #2, FSdna #123 > born: between 19nov1602 and 5june1603, Eng > died: 20nov1681, Billerica, MA; age 78 > > The Y-Chromosome Allele positions for William French, FSdna #123 and Richard > French FSdna #131 clearly indicate that they were not brothers. > > However; William French, FSdna #123, was perhaps the grandson of Jacob French, > FSdna #126. Jacob's son was Thomas, FFA chart #1. > > Scott French > > > > > > >

See Threlfall, John B., "Thomas French of Assington, Suffolk, England, and Ipswich, Massachusetts," in New England Historical & Genealogical Record, vol. 142, July 1988, pp. 250-252. If you're interested in this article, let me know; I can send it to you by e-mail. Mike Frost -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 3:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Thanks messages off list I am trying to trace the parents of Thomas French of Ipswich MA, back to either England or Wales. Does this fit in with your family lineage? I do not know who his parents or siblings are, nor his family further back than Thomas. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jo Ann French~Campbell [email protected] Out going mail is CERTIFIED~ VIRUS FREE. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 487 Released Date: 08/02/04

Where and when was your "John" born Beverly French-Harms

An old topic with a new twist - Was Richard French of Marshfield a brother of William French of Billerica? FFA http://www.frenchfamilyassoc.com/ FSdna http://dnafrench.tripod.com/id1.html Richard French, FFA chart #6, FSdna #131 born: Coggeshall, Essex, Eng died: 14dec1688, Marshfield, MA William French, FFA chart #2, FSdna #123 born: between 19nov1602 and 5june1603, Eng died: 20nov1681, Billerica, MA; age 78 The Y-Chromosome Allele positions for William French, FSdna #123 and Richard French FSdna #131 clearly indicate that they were not brothers. However; William French, FSdna #123, was perhaps the grandson of Jacob French, FSdna #126. Jacob's son was Thomas, FFA chart #1. Scott French

A Thomas FRENCH immigrated to MA in 1630 on the Mary and John, The Winthrop Fleet of 1630. He was accompanied by wife, Susan RIDDLESDALE, and 7 children: Anne, Mary, John, Susan, Thomas JR., Dorcas (daug.) and Alice. J French -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 5:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRENCH-L] Thanks messages off list I am trying to trace the parents of Thomas French of Ipswich MA, back to either England or Wales. Does this fit in with your family lineage? I do not know who his parents or siblings are, nor his family further back than Thomas. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jo Ann French~Campbell [email protected] Out going mail is CERTIFIED~ VIRUS FREE. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 487 Released Date: 08/02/04

Hi All! We have added new DNA Test Results on the website: * 6 Exact Matches ! * 9 Partial Matches ! * 17 Distinct French Lines Identified ! * Participant Ancestor Lists Updated ! At this time we have 34 participants: 32 have returned their kits 2 have not yet returned their kits 32 have received their completed results Please see the website listed below for additional information. Also, we encourage everyone that is or knows of a French male to participate. The more we have the greater the possibility that everyone will also make a connection. If you have any questions about the DNA project, please feel free to post to the group or email me directly. Best Regards, David P.S. Participants, please review the website and let me know of any corrections and/or updates that need to be made. I know that several of you sent me items the last time I updated in April. If I did not get your updated information correct, please email me again and I will do it in the next few days. ---------------------------------------------------------- Connecting Our French Family Worldwide French Surname DNA Project http://dnafrench.tripod.com

Names include Alexander, Enoch, George, Enoch, John Calvin, Mary Porter. Includes picture of John Calvin. Beers, J. H. and Co., Commemorative Biographical Record of Washington County, Pennsylvania (Chicago: J. H. Beers & Co., 1893). Transcribed January 1997 by Bobbi Steele of Indianapolis, IN as part of the Beers Project.Published January 1997 on the Washington County, PA USGenWeb pages at http://www.chartiers.com/.

I am trying to trace the parents of Thomas French of Ipswich MA, back to either England or Wales. Does this fit in with your family lineage? I do not know who his parents or siblings are, nor his family further back than Thomas. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jo Ann French~Campbell [email protected] Out going mail is CERTIFIED~ VIRUS FREE. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version 6.0.672 / Virus Database: 487 Released Date: 08/02/04

Yes. He is the son of John J. and Mary Ackerman French. John J. French is my GGGGrandfather and my "brick wall". I have information on a lot of this family. Richard Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor and Al Maass" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 12:23 PM Subject: [FRENCH-L] William M. French > I found William M. French (1817-1886) born in Dearborn County, IN. > Spent his youth in Rising Sum. Was secretary to the Switzerland County > Agricultural Society. In 1851 became a partner with MacGregory in the > Rising Sun "Indiana Republican".From 1855-1859 was a Trustee of Indiana > University. Died 8 April 1886 and is buried in Rising Sun. Can anyone > claim him? Al. >

Hello all, and thank you Jeff While looking trying to find the reference to Alexander French, I found a marriage in July 1815 conducted by "Rev. Mr. French". It is the only reference to him on the marriage list. As "my" Richard French family lived in Washington County in 1810-1819 I am quite intrigued by this entry. Has anyone on the board encountered other references to a Rev. Mr. French in this time frame? thank you Dick French ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 2:04 PM Subject: [FRENCH-L] PA- FRENCH, of Rev War, & descendants > Names include Alexander, Enoch, George, Enoch, John Calvin, Mary Porter. > Includes picture of John Calvin. > > Beers, J. H. and Co., Commemorative Biographical Record of Washington > County, Pennsylvania (Chicago: J. H. Beers & Co., 1893). Transcribed January > 1997 by Bobbi Steele of Indianapolis, IN as part of the Beers > Project.Published January 1997 on the Washington County, PA USGenWeb pages > at http://www.chartiers.com/. > > >

I found William M. French (1817-1886) born in Dearborn County, IN. Spent his youth in Rising Sum. Was secretary to the Switzerland County Agricultural Society. In 1851 became a partner with MacGregory in the Rising Sun "Indiana Republican".From 1855-1859 was a Trustee of Indiana University. Died 8 April 1886 and is buried in Rising Sun. Can anyone claim him? Al.

Check this out!! Mary Lou Tannich Descendants of Hugh French 1 Hugh French b: abt 1645; d: November 12, 1701 in Richmond Co, VA, Parish of St Mary's -Will date-20 Jan 1699/00, proved 12-3-1701 -+Mary (Brown) Triplett *2nd Wife of Hugh French: -+Margaret, b abt 1655 in VA m: May 7, 1685; d: Aft. 1706 in VA 2 Mary French b: 1688 2 Hugh French, Capt, b: abt 1686 in of Stafford Co, VA; d: 1737 in Died at Sea on Ship from London, travelling with Cpt Augustine Washington ---+Betty, d: Aft. 1740 ---3 Hugh French III, d: aft October 21, 1739 in Stafford Co, Va - date of Will - Will proved May 15, 1740 ------+Betty Brittingham b: in Pomomoke; m: Bef. 1738 - Father: Nathaniel Brittingham ----- 4 Mayson French b: Bef. 1739 ----- 4 Rachel French b: Aft. 1739 ---3 Daniel French b: ABT 1710 ---3 Mason French d: 1752 in Stafford Co, VA ---3 Elizabeth French ---3 Margaret French ---3 Ann French *2nd Wife of Hugh French, Capt: ---+Mary Brown Triplett 2 Daniel French, Sr b: ABT 1689 in Old Rappahannock, Va - later owned land next to Mount Vernon; d: March 5, 1735/36 in (This could be date of Will) King George Co, Va - death said in other places to be Stafford Co in 1748 (??) (I don't yet have a copy of his will to clarify this) ---+Miss Peyton m: ABT 1714 d: Bef. 1725 Father: Robert Peyton, Immigrant ---3 Margaret French, b: Aft. 1715 in King George Co, VA; d: Bef. July 2, 1760 in Culpeper Co, VA ------+James Lawrence Strother b: ABT 1700 in lived in King George Co, VA m: 1736 in King George Co, VA (between June and Nov) d: 1761 in Culpeper CO, VA (before July 2, 1760?) Father: Jeremiah "Jeremy" Strother; Mother: Eleanor Savage ----- 4 Jane Strother b: Aft. 1736 ----- 4 French "The Fearless" Strother b: ABT 1737 in King George Co, Va d: June 3, 1800 in Fredericksburg, Spotsylvania Co, VA --------+Lucy Coleman b: ABT 1733 in Caroline Co- Father: Robert Coleman Mother: Sarah Anne Saunders --------5 George French Strother, b: Aft. 1755 in Culpeper - was lawyer; d: 1840 in St Louis, MO ----------- +Sarah Green Williams, m: 1807 -Father: James Williams, Gen; Mother: Green --------*2nd Wife of George French Strother: -----------+Theodosia Hunt m: ABT 1812 --------5 Margaret French Strother b: Aft. 1758 ----------- +Philip Pendleton Slaughter, Capt b: December 4, 1758 in Culpeper Co, VA m: February 5, 1780 d: 1849 in Culpeper Co, VA Father: James Slaughter, Col Mother: Susan Clayton --------5 Gilley Coleman Strother b: ABT 1761 ----------- +John Evans, Jr Capt b: ABT 1775 m: November 20,1800 d: 1843 Father: John Evans, Sr --------5 Lucy Coleman Strother b: ABT 1763 d: in d young --------5 Eliza French Strother b: ABT 1765; d: in she disappeared ----------- +John? Nimrod Evans, Col; m: December 29, 1801 - Father: John Evans, Sr --------5 [2] Mary Strother b: ABT 1767 ----------- +[1] Daniel Gray b: Aft. 1745 m: in They were first cousins. Father: George Gray I Mother: Mary Strother --------5 Daniel French Strother, b: ABT 1769; d: ABT 1840 in Was in City of Louisville, Jefferson Co, KY 1830 census -----------+Fannie Thompson; Father: John Thompson, Judge Mother: ----- 4 Mary Strother, b: ABT 1739 in King George Co, Va; d: Bef. 1809 in llived in Stafford Co,VA --------+George Gray I b: ABT 1700 in ? date? Westmoreland CO, VA m: ABT 1739 in ?1-21-1758?? Children's dates could be incorrect d: Bef.1803 in Westmoreland Co Father: Nathaniel Jones Gray Mother: Mary Monroe --------5 Nathaniel Gray b: ABT 1743 --------5 [1] Daniel Gray b: Aft. 1745 -----------+[2] Mary Strother b: ABT 1767. They were first cousins - Father: French "The Fearless" Strother Mother: Lucy Coleman --------5 Mary Gray, (Poss Sister - this not proven) b: Aft. 1747 in VA -----------+Henry Grass, b: ABT 1759 m: August 11, 1783 in Lincoln City, KY; d: December 1828 in KY --------5 George Weedon Gray, Capt. Rev.S., b: May 13, 1748 in Prob b.1740, Stafford CO, VA - enlisted from Culpeper, VA for Rev Serv; d: December 2, 1823 in Jefferson CO, KY ----------- +Mildred Rootes Thompson b: September 12, 1761 in Culpeper CO, VA m: ABT 1781 in VA d: February 21, 1828 in Jefferson CO, KY Father: John Thompson, The Rev. Mother: Elizabeth Rootes --------5 James Gray b: January 21, 1758 in Stafford, VA d: ABT 1820 -----------+Martha Foster, d: ABT 1833 in Madison Co, TN --------5 Margaret Strother Gray, b: July 20, 1768 in Culpeper Co, VA; d: Sep 21, 1838 -----------+Judge James Slaughter, b: ABT 1764 in Culpeper Co, VA - Nelson Co, KY c 1787; m: ABT 1786 d: December 25,1846 - Father: James Slaughter, Col Mother: Susan Clayton --------5 Son Gray ----- 4 James Strother, b: ABT 1741; d: Aft. March 12, 1764 in Stafford Co, VA date of Will - never m. - ---3 Daniel French, Jr, b: 1723 in King George Co, VA - lived at Rose Hill, 5 mi S of Alexandria; d: May 25, 1771 in Fairfax Co, VA - tombstone moved to Pohick Ch yd early 1900's ------+Penelope Manley, m: ABT 1744 d: ABT 1771 in Will proved Fairfax Co, VA 1771 Father: John Manley ----- 4 Elizabeth French b: 1755 --------+Benjamin Taskar Dulany, b: in Anapolis, MD m: Aft. February 4,1773 in date of pre-nuptial agreement Fairfax co, VA --------5 John Peyton Dulany *2nd Wife of Daniel French, Sr: ---+Margaret (Birkett) Pratt, m: Bef. May 3, 1728 in he married her later, after children - no issue, d: Bef. March 2, 1748/49 in King George Co, VA Father: John Birkett Mother: Ann Mills 2 Margaret French b: ABT 1690 in (Old) Rappahannock Co, VA; d: Aft. June 19, 1723 in (bef1726) ---+Robert Taliaferro II b: ABT 1686 m: Aft. 1705 in (bef 8-10-1710) d: June 6, 1726 in King George Co, VA Father: Robert Taliaferro, Jr Mother: Sarah Catlett ---3 Anne Taliaferro b: ABT 1708 ---3 Elizabeth Taliaferro b: Aft. 1710 ------+Roger Madison b: ABT 1700 m: Aft. 1740 d: in He did not die in1755 - was still living 1769 - Father: John Madison Mother: Isabel Minor Todd ----- 4 Elizabeth Madison --------+Moore ----- 4 Frances Madison --------+Collins ----- 4 Margaret French Madison ----- 4 Ambrose Madison ----- 4 Mary Madison b: Aft. 1740 --------+Richard Collins m: Aft. 1760 ----- 4 Ann Madison b: ABT 1753 --------+Henry Cox m: April 5, 1773 in Charlotte Co, VA ---3 Samuel Taliaferro b: ABT 1716 in Albamarle CO, Va ----- 4 Francis Taliaferro, b: ABT 1745; d: Aft. April 29, 1821 in Todd Co, Ky - will proved & recd 12 June, 1826 --------5 Nancy French Taliaferro, b: ABT 1770 ----------- +Edrington 2 Mason French, b: ABT 1693 in Old Rappahannock, VA; d: 1746 in Westmoreland Co, VA ---+Unknown. m: ABT 1714 in VA ---3 Hugh French, b: 1715 in of St Mary's Parish, Richmond Co, VA; d: ABT 1771 in Prince William Co, VA - ------+Margaret Gervase Jarvis b: October 28, 1720 in Westmoreland Co, VA; m: ABT 1736 in VA ----- 4 Daniel French, b: Aft. 1736 in Richmond Co, VA; d: ABT 1807 in Adair Co, KY --------+Mildred Strother,b: ABT 1740; m: ABT 1758 in Richmond Co, VA --------5 Nancy French b: 1759-1763 -----------+James Richardson --------5 John Elson French, b: November 2, 1760 in Richmond Co, VA; d: February 17, 1845 in DeWitt Co, ILL -----------+Dolly Spencer, m: ABT 1782 in Bedford Co, VA --------5 James French b: ABT 1761 d: Bef. 1855 in ILL or IN ----------- +Barberry Key m: March 9, 1784 --------5 Daniel "Dal" French b: 1764 in VA ----------- +Ann Guthrie b: Aft. 1764 in VA, m: March 24, 1785 in Bedford Co, VA d: November 2, 1861 in Indiana, perhaps - Father: Henry Guthrie Mother: Penelope Johnson --------5 Hugh French, b: 1765 ; d: 1857 in Russell Co, KY ----------- +Julia Ann French --------5 Richard French, b: ABT 1767 ----------- +Diney Greer m: February 22, 1800 ----- 4 William French, b: 1744; d: Bef. 1800 --------+Rachael ---3 Robert French, b: 1717 in VA; d: 1743 ------+Mary Mosby *2nd Wife of Mason French: ---+Catherine Ellis, m: ABT 1719 ---3 Daniel French, b: Aft. 1717; d: 1756 in Stafford Co, VA ---3 Mason French b: ABT 1720 in VA; d: April 12, 1752 in VA ------+Margaret Johnson Lacy ---3 John French b: 1725 ------+Margaret Burgess ---3 Margaret French b: Bef. 1729 ------+Original Browne

Is this a lose connection? What documentation exists to prove Joseph FRENCH (m. Hannah HORNE) is the son of Joseph FRENCH m. Allee?

I am again trying to find the elusive parents of Robert Walter FRENCH. He was born 22 Jul 1873 or 1876 (cannot confirm) in Missouri. Cannot find place. He lists his father's birth as Missouri and his mother's in Tennessee in one place, but on the 1930 Census he says they were both born in Tennessee. He married Emma Johanna Charlotty BERGENER in San Francisco on 5 Mar 1905. They had 2 children: Molly and Roy Walter. They divorced. I believe he married a Harriet Austin and may have had a daughter Bernice Estelle. He died in Albany, Alameda, California 11 Apr 1930. If anyone has information on him please contact me.

Hi everyone, My notes are not right in front of me now, but does any one know about a modern day Hannah Dustin French from NH? She did not marry it appears as she is is called Miss French. She was concidered an expert on bookbinding in the 1800's;wrote many articles and one book on the subject. She held a position at Wesley Collage in Mass as head of the rare books collection. I don't have her dates in front of me, but she died in 1993 or96 as an eldery lady. I am related to the original Hannah Dustin who fought off an Indian attack on Mass settlers. Thanks, Donna