Fellow French Researchers, One of the Frenchs who served from Ohio was Obadiah Crew (O.C.) French (1834-1910). (Descendent of Thomas (Nether Heyford/FFA Chart 20) -> Thomas -> Robert -> Thomas -> James -> William R. -> O.C.) Are there any other descendants of William R. French (1802-1869 - O.C.'s father), besides myself, who subscribe to this FRENCH list? According to Howard Barclay French's compendium of Thomas French's descendants, O.C. had three brothers: Charles (b1830 m1852 d?), John (b1832 m1-1855 m2-1882 d1893), and William James (b1858 m1-1868 m2-1900 d?). If you are a descendent of one of these Frenchs, I would be interested in exchanging information with you and look forward to hearing from you. Thanks, Lew frenchs1 wrote: >Jeff > May I please have the Illinois & Ohio sections, if that is possible. Thank >you >Dick >----- Original Message ----- >From: "sjlfrench" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 8:38 PM >Subject: [FRENCH-L] American Civil War List of Frenches. > > > > >>I have a word document that lists over 1500 French's who served during the >>Civil War. The list only covers a few states. Anyone interested in the >>list can e-mail me. It is to large to post to the French-l list. >> >> >>Jeff French >> >> >> >> > > > > >

I have a word document that lists over 1500 French's who served during the Civil War. The list only covers a few states. Anyone interested in the list can e-mail me. It is to large to post to the French-l list. Jeff French

Jeff May I please have the Illinois & Ohio sections, if that is possible. Thank you Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "sjlfrench" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 8:38 PM Subject: [FRENCH-L] American Civil War List of Frenches. > I have a word document that lists over 1500 French's who served during the > Civil War. The list only covers a few states. Anyone interested in the > list can e-mail me. It is to large to post to the French-l list. > > > Jeff French > >

Hello JFrench------ Is there any relation here with my G2Grandfather Joseph P. French? Joseph P. French, b. 3-23-1812, Edgefield Co, SC; d. 3-22-1879, Pike Co, AL; m. Mary W. Brown, b. 6-27-1833, Houston Co, GA. However, to date, we know nothing of G2Grandfather French's parents or siblings; can anyone help? Thanks so much for any help, Ralph Banks, Austin, TX In a message dated 8/17/04 6:16:01 PM, [email protected] writes: << Three Joseph FRENCH families are living in the NC/SC area during the 1775-1800 timeframe. 1) Joseph FRENCH of Onslow Co. This Joseph appears to have remained near the coast. 2) Joseph FRENCH of York Co. Joseph French appears on the census in 1790 & 1800 and in 1810-1820 a Josiah French is cited in York Co. land plats. John French 1793 cited in Camden Dist. WILLIAMS Plat. Joseph FRENCH cited in JONATHAN WHITLY's will 1795, YORK County, HOLSTONS RIVER. SMITH, JOSIAH will mentions Judey FRENCH 1818. LEATHEM, MAREY OF YORK DISTRICT, WILL mentions Saly FRENCH 1836.) 3) Joseph FRENCH living on the Pacolet River. The York Co. FRENCH and the Pacolet River FRENCH families may intermingle as they (or the younger sons) move westward. Their relationship, if any, has not been determined. Memorial -- entries made in the South Carolina books for land tracts that had originally been filed in North Carolina prior to a new definition of the NC/SC boundary line. 1769 Joseph FRENCH signs Regulator Petition in NC. 1770 Joseph FRENCH has removed from Anson Co., NC (had been Lt. in the Militia). [JF NOTE: It could have been Joseph's land that had been removed from Anson Co. NC. thus leading to his resignation from the NC Militia] 1773 Joseph FRENCH cited in Craven Co. on branch of Pacolet (Hewie Plat). 1774/10/01 Joseph FRENCH cited on PACOLET RIVER (Volk Plat) 1774/11/05 Joseph FRENCH cited NINETY SIX DISTRICT/NORTH PACOLET RIVER (Bremar Plat) 1775/04/07 Joseph FRENCH cited on HEWIE MEMORIAL - CRAVEN COUNTY/PACOLET RIVER 1775/05/18 Joseph FRENCH cited on VALK MEMORIAL - NINETY SIX DISTRICT - PACOLET RIVER 1776-1783 Revolutionary War; 1778-1783 FRENCH brothers served: Lafford, William, Joseph, Simon. On Simon's pension application he stated that he lived in Spartanburg SC when he enrolled 1777/1778. Since his first son was reportedly born Feb 1783, he probably was not married yet and was probably still living at home. 1784/Aug 6 Joseph FRENCH land surveyed - NINETY SIX DISTRICT/PACOLET RIVER 1787/01/03 Joseph FRENCH cited on MERRICK Plat - Surveyed for JOSEPH FRENCH on AUGUST 6, 1784 The Joseph FRENCH's shown of Twelve Mile Creek believed to be the Lafford FRENCH of NJ family since 1790 Census shows brothers Simon & William living in the Pendleton District. 1790 Joseph FRENCH on Twelve Mile Creek, 72 acres, NINETY SIX DISTRICT, SC. 1790 Joseph FRENCH, SR. on Twelve Mile Creek, 200 Acres NINETY SIX DISTR, SC. 1790 Census-Pendleton Dist. shows Simon & William FRENCH 1806-1807 Lafferd FRENCH and 2nd wife Elizabeth move to new neighborhood in Spartanburg SC.[Information from Elizabeth's pension application records] 1800 Census-Pendleton Dist. The older Simon & William of 1790 census are gone. A younger William French is shown. He is probably the "over 16 male" shown in the 1790 William French household and is probably his 1st born son who has recently married 1800 Census-Spartanburg SC: Betsey FRENCH, age 26-45, is listed next to Lafford. Appears to be a widow. With 5 children under 10, her husband died 1798-1800 timeframe. Lafford's brother William reportedly died in this time period and his wife moved to Warren Co. East Tennessee some time after his death. Simon FRENCH reportedly moved to Christian Co. KY (on border with TN) Lafford FRENCH hshld has a male 16-26 which is probably his son, William. 1810 Census - Spartanburg SC: Lafford's oldest son William is listed on image #5 and Lafford is listed on image #7. William is probably living in the "old" neighborhood. Betsey FRENCH is not shown in 1810. 1815 Joseph FRENCH mentioned - Twelve Mile Creek/Pendleton Dist. This is probably Lafford's brother Joseph. Since the elder Joseph doesn't appear on any census records, he may have died in 1790, shortly after the Twelve Mile Creek land transaction. <<<<<<<<

This may be the audit they did when Elizabeth, widow of Lafford FRENCH applied for a pension increase around 1850. They had to prove that Lafford served in the SC mounted militia since he had not declared any time spent in the SC Regiment of Roebucks & Thomas when he applied for his pension. Lafford did state he had served under Coln Thomas Sr & Cap't David McDowell though. And in 1854 Jane McMillan states that she saw Lafford FRENCH at the house of her father Cap't David McDowells and that he served with her father and brother in Roebucks & Thomas Regiment [SC]. Since they couldn't find a record of his service in NC as he had claimed, I wonder if he just forgot the area he was living in when he enrolled for service had been changed from NC to SC. Details Series Number: S108092 Reel: 0049 Frame: 00203 ignore: 00 Date: 1776 C. OR LATER Description: FRENCH, JOSEPH JR., ACCOUNT AUDITED (FILE NO. 2578) OF CLAIMS GROWING OUT OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. Names Indexed: FRENCH, JOSEPH JR.// ========================= Series Number: S108092 Reel: 0049 Frame: 00214 ignore: 00 Date: 1776 C. OR LATER Description: FRENCH, MICHAEL, ACCOUNT AUDITED (FILE NO. 2579) OF CLAIMS GROWING OUT OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. Names Indexed: FRENCH, MICHAEL// ========================== Series Number: S108092 Reel: 0049 Frame: 00228 ignore: 00 Date: 1776 C. OR LATER Description: FRENCH, SIMON, ACCOUNT AUDITED (FILE NO. 2579A) OF CLAIMS GROWING OUT OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. Names Indexed: FRENCH, SIMON// ================= Series Number: S108092 Reel: 0049 Frame: 00235 ignore: 00 Date: 1776 C. OR LATER Description: FRENCH, WILLIAM, ACCOUNT AUDITED (FILE NO. 2579B) OF CLAIMS GROWING OUT OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION. Names Indexed: FRENCH, WILLIAM// ===========================

Three Joseph FRENCH families are living in the NC/SC area during the 1775-1800 timeframe. 1) Joseph FRENCH of Onslow Co. This Joseph appears to have remained near the coast. 2) Joseph FRENCH of York Co. Joseph French appears on the census in 1790 & 1800 and in 1810-1820 a Josiah French is cited in York Co. land plats. John French 1793 cited in Camden Dist. WILLIAMS Plat. Joseph FRENCH cited in JONATHAN WHITLY's will 1795, YORK County, HOLSTONS RIVER. SMITH, JOSIAH will mentions Judey FRENCH 1818. LEATHEM, MAREY OF YORK DISTRICT, WILL mentions Saly FRENCH 1836.) 3) Joseph FRENCH living on the Pacolet River. The York Co. FRENCH and the Pacolet River FRENCH families may intermingle as they (or the younger sons) move westward. Their relationship, if any, has not been determined. Memorial -- entries made in the South Carolina books for land tracts that had originally been filed in North Carolina prior to a new definition of the NC/SC boundary line. 1769 Joseph FRENCH signs Regulator Petition in NC. 1770 Joseph FRENCH has removed from Anson Co., NC (had been Lt. in the Militia). [JF NOTE: It could have been Joseph's land that had been removed from Anson Co. NC. thus leading to his resignation from the NC Militia] 1773 Joseph FRENCH cited in Craven Co. on branch of Pacolet (Hewie Plat). 1774/10/01 Joseph FRENCH cited on PACOLET RIVER (Volk Plat) 1774/11/05 Joseph FRENCH cited NINETY SIX DISTRICT/NORTH PACOLET RIVER (Bremar Plat) 1775/04/07 Joseph FRENCH cited on HEWIE MEMORIAL - CRAVEN COUNTY/PACOLET RIVER 1775/05/18 Joseph FRENCH cited on VALK MEMORIAL - NINETY SIX DISTRICT - PACOLET RIVER 1776-1783 Revolutionary War; 1778-1783 FRENCH brothers served: Lafford, William, Joseph, Simon. On Simon's pension application he stated that he lived in Spartanburg SC when he enrolled 1777/1778. Since his first son was reportedly born Feb 1783, he probably was not married yet and was probably still living at home. 1784/Aug 6 Joseph FRENCH land surveyed - NINETY SIX DISTRICT/PACOLET RIVER 1787/01/03 Joseph FRENCH cited on MERRICK Plat - Surveyed for JOSEPH FRENCH on AUGUST 6, 1784 The Joseph FRENCH's shown of Twelve Mile Creek believed to be the Lafford FRENCH of NJ family since 1790 Census shows brothers Simon & William living in the Pendleton District. 1790 Joseph FRENCH on Twelve Mile Creek, 72 acres, NINETY SIX DISTRICT, SC. 1790 Joseph FRENCH, SR. on Twelve Mile Creek, 200 Acres NINETY SIX DISTR, SC. 1790 Census-Pendleton Dist. shows Simon & William FRENCH 1806-1807 Lafferd FRENCH and 2nd wife Elizabeth move to new neighborhood in Spartanburg SC.[Information from Elizabeth's pension application records] 1800 Census-Pendleton Dist. The older Simon & William of 1790 census are gone. A younger William French is shown. He is probably the "over 16 male" shown in the 1790 William French household and is probably his 1st born son who has recently married 1800 Census-Spartanburg SC: Betsey FRENCH, age 26-45, is listed next to Lafford. Appears to be a widow. With 5 children under 10, her husband died 1798-1800 timeframe. Lafford's brother William reportedly died in this time period and his wife moved to Warren Co. East Tennessee some time after his death. Simon FRENCH reportedly moved to Christian Co. KY (on border with TN) Lafford FRENCH hshld has a male 16-26 which is probably his son, William. 1810 Census - Spartanburg SC: Lafford's oldest son William is listed on image #5 and Lafford is listed on image #7. William is probably living in the "old" neighborhood. Betsey FRENCH is not shown in 1810. 1815 Joseph FRENCH mentioned - Twelve Mile Creek/Pendleton Dist. This is probably Lafford's brother Joseph. Since the elder Joseph doesn't appear on any census records, he may have died in 1790, shortly after the Twelve Mile Creek land transaction.

It does work, but one can't use another person's search, you must begin from the root and click on "Search page" _http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/_ (http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/) Julia French Wood In a message dated 8/17/2004 11:04:23 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Someone gave us the following URL for the South Carolina Archives Cross-Browser Template to look at plat map summaries. The URL doesn't work anymore. Is their a new URL available? http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/search/default.asp

Hello French Cousins------- It has been great to see so much activity of the FRENCH list. I am in need of some too with my FRENCH ancestry. One of my g2grandfathers was Joseph P. French, b. 3-23-1812, Edgefield Co, SC; d. 3-22-1879, Pike Co, AL; m. Mary W. Brown, b. 6-27-1833, Houston Co, GA. However, to date, we know nothing of G2Grandfather French's parents or siblings; can anyone help? Thanks so much for any help, Ralph Banks, Austin, TX

Someone gave us the following URL for the South Carolina Archives Cross-Browser Template to look at plat map summaries. The URL doesn't work anymore. Is their a new URL available? http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/search/default.asp

Ray, My grandmother was a French and our family came from NC to TN to AR and were in Izard Co AR by very early 1800s. There are not many of our Frenches left in this part of the state but would be glad to swap a little Info with you and see if there is a connection. Paula K

Is this the same Horn family? Genealogical History Of Hudson And Bergen Counties New Jersey THE VAN HORN FAMILY Originally published in 1900 Cornelius Burnham Harvey, Editor Edited by GET NJ, COPYRIGHT 2003 THE VAN HORN FAMILY.-The first American progenitor of the Van Horn family in Hudson and Bergen Counties was Jan Cornelissen, who came to America from his birthplace, the City of Hoorn, Holland, previously to the year 1645. Mr. Winfield, in his "History of Hudson County," thinks this emigrant was under twenty-one years of age when he arrived at New Amsterdam, and cites as proof the fact that, on October 4, 1647, a power of attorney was executed by him for the purpose of collecting money due him from his guardian in Holland. He sided with the English in 1664, and took the oath of allegiance to the king the same year. One of his sons, named Joris. married, March 11, 1663. Maria Rutgers, of Amersfoort, L. I., and had eight children, one of whom was Rutgert Jansen Van Horn, baptized at New York, January 5, 1667. This Rutgert married, April 25, 1697, Neeltie Van Vechten. Another son was Cornelius Jansen Van Horn. In 1697 both Rutgert and Cornelius went to Schraalenburgh, where Cornelius married Jacomina Demarest, widow of Samuel Helling, and settled east of Closter, where his descendants still reside. Rutgert returned to Bergen and purchased lands at Bayonne, where he resided until 1711, when he bought a farm at Communipaw, where he spent his days, and where he died May 15, 1741. Rutgert's descendants spread over Hudson County, and those of Cornelius over Bergen County. http://www.getnj.com/hudberg/genealogical186.shtml -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:38 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FRENCH-L] Simon HORN, NJ New to the HORN List. Hannah HORN(E) m. Joseph FRENCH in Raritan, Somerset Co., NJ on 3 Jan 1749. She was the daughter of Simon and Sarah (Olden) HORN(E) b. c1731. They may have been Quakers as the FRENCHs were established in that faith. Hannah and Joseph had the following children: Lafford (1753), Sarah (1754), William, Joseph, Simon, and Mary. Although the birth dates of Lafford and Sarah are given, the others are not known. The time lapse between marriage 1749 and child 1753 suggests that the order of birth maybe different from the order given. For instance, both Joseph and Simon are the names of the grandfathers which usually would go to the first two sons. The name Lafford maybe a corruption of Leffert, a name used among the Dutch settlers of the time. But why would a son be so named? Usually a close relative if he were the first son. A search of the ancestry of this family reveals one unknown parent of Joseph FRENCH. Joseph's father was also named Joseph and married an "Allee," thought to be a first name or nick name. Her parents are unknown. It is suggested that she offers the clue to the use of the name Lafford/Leffert. Much of this FRENCH ancestry is in Howard Barclay FRENCH's, "The Genealogy of the Descendants of Thomas FRENCH," Phila 1909, Vols. I and II. I am curious about the HORN(E) history/genealogy. Is there a document that follows them in early America? Best regards, Hugh

In a message dated 8/16/04 1:10:48 PM, [email protected] writes: << if 'Neal' FRENCH who signed the Regulators Petition could be 'Nathaneal FRENCH' >> _______ J. Good thinking! Since there has been no Neal FRENCH otherwise mentioned, it is entirely possible for Nathaneal to be transcribed as Neal, I think it is time to build a time line for Joseph FRENCH of NJ. 1722 Joseph FRENCH b. in NJ after this date (marriage of parents). 1749 Joseph FRENCH m. Hannah HORN in NJ. 1753 Joseph FRENCH and Hannah have son, Lafford in NJ. 1754 Joseph FRENCH and Hannah have daughter, Sarah in NJ. 1765 Joseph FRENCH former property for sale in NJ. 1769 Joseph FRENCH signs Regulator Petition in NC. 1770 Joseph FRENCH has removed from Anson Co., NC (had been Lt. in the Militia). 1773 Joseph FRENCH cited in Craven Co. on branch of Pacolet (Hewie petition). 1776-1783 Revolutionary War; 1780-1783 in South Carolina 1780 Joseph FRENCH sons served: Lafford, William, Joseph, Simon. 1790 Joseph FRENCH on Twelve Mile Creek, 72 acres, NINETY SIX DISTRICT, SC. 1790 Joseph FRENCH, SR. on Twelve Mile Creek, 200 Acres NINETY SIX DISTR, SC. 1815 Joseph FRENCH mentioned - Twelve Mile Creek/Pendleton Dist. I draw from this time line that Joseph FRENCH of NJ initially went to NC and between 1769 and 1770 went to SC. Joseph was on the Pacolet River by 1773. Since the two cites in 1790 were on the same date for different properties and one Joseph is cited as Sr. I assume that the Sr. was Joseph of NJ. The 1815 cite could be either. The following maybe useful-- South Carolina was organized into 7 Districts in 1769 and to nine in 1795 The 9 Districts were expanded to 24 in 1798 Beaufort District- Beaufort Ninety-Six District- Abbeyville, Edgefield, Newberry, Laurens, Spartanburg Washington District- Pendleton, Greenville Pinckney District- Union, York Camden District- Chester, Lancaster, Fairfield, Kershaw, Sumter Cheraws District- Chesterfield, Darlington, Marlborough Georgetown District- Georgetown, Marion Charleston District- Charleston, Colleton Orangeburg District- Orangeburg, Barnwell We need to look at the USC 1790, 1800, 1810 SC Ninety Six District/Pendleton for Joseph FRENCH. Please add to time line chart with enteries of Joseph FRENCH of NJ. Best regards, Hugh

I got up this morning, with what I believe was a good idea; I searched the internet for all the French's living in Little Rock Arkansas ,I found 24 so I sent the questionaire I found in Legacy 5 to all of them, I have one cousin 200 miles north of Little Rock. and he says there are more down in Little Rock, has any one else done this;I thought it was a great idea, then again I'm easy to please

I wonder if 'Neal' FRENCH who signed the Regulators Petition could be 'Nathaneal FRENCH' Either the nick name he went by or a transcription problem since the original was probably quite hard to read. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 7:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FRENCH-L] SC 1769- Neal & Joseph FRENCH sign Regulators Petition Neal FRENCH and Joseph FRENCH sign the Regulators Petition Petition dated 9 October 1769. "Mr. Speaker and Gen't of the Assembly. . . . 15. That all taxes in the following Counties be paid as in other Counties in the Province (i.e.) in the produce of the County and that warehouses be erected as follows (viz), In Anson County at Isom Haleys Ferry Landing on PeeDee River, Rowan and Orange at Cambleton in Cumberland County, Mecklenburg at __?___ on the Catawba River, and in Tryon County at __?__ on __?__ River. 16. That every denomination of People may marry according to their respective mode Ceremony and customs after due publication or License. 17. That Doc't Benjamin Franklin or some other known patriot be appointed agent, to represent the unhappy state of this Province to his Majesty, and to solicit the several Boards in England. [reported signatures included] Neal French . . . Joseph French . . .

Looking at the difference in acreage received in the 1790 Pendleton deeds, I am wondering if the FRENCH family members had received land warrants for their service in the RW. The larger amount granted to the elder Joseph FRENCH could reflect that he served as an officer and the younger Joseph FRENCH served as a private--the amount of land received on the land warrants was usually based on the serviceman rank.

Hugh, Remember, Joseph FRENCH was mentioned in an earlier deed as living on "branch of Pacolet" in what is shown as the Spartanburg, Union "counties" [see 1786-1791 map of SC]. This first property appears to be EAST of the property he purchased in 1790 in the Pendleton District and was not too far from the property Lafford was living on when he died in NC. This deed appears to be the Polk-Rutherford NC property where Laffert was living when he died. French, Lefford / French, John / Deed/ 39-40/309/ 1834 [date filed] Son John is living on a place in Spartanburg County in 1850 which is probably the general location of the 1773 Joseph FRENCH property. I think the area later known as Greenville County and Pendleton County was still considered Indian land prior to the Rev. War. =================================================== 1773 -- from: "Scotch-Irish Migration to South Carolina, 1772" Reproduced on Genealogy.com's Online Data Set #352 (Immigrants to America, 1600s-1800s). Settlement in South Carolina, page 43; 'In the Council Chamber, Wednesday the 6th January 1773'[footnote 4] The following persons who had lately arrived from Ireland. . . presented petitions for warrants of Survey . . . In South Carolina. . . John Hewie -------150 [acres] (b) P.F.844; 6 Jan 1773; in Craven Co. on branch of Pacolet; bd'd [bordered] Joseph French, Zack Bullock; sur [survey]10 May 1773 (c) Spartanburg, Union footnote 4: [South Carolina] Council Journal, No. 57, pp 15-25 inc. [JF note: Lafford is abt 20,] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] CORRECTION !!! Should read <<Property purchased in 1790 in 96th District, SC, by Joseph FRENCH

In a message dated 8/15/04 10:28:30 PM, [email protected] writes: <<Property purchased in 1769 in 96th District, SC, by Joseph FRENCH is likely the reason for removal of Joseph from Anson Co. . NC. >> CORRECTION !!! Should read <<Property purchased in 1790 in 96th District, SC, by Joseph FRENCH is likely reason to believe the removal of Joseph from Anson Co. . NC was to SC although it was 20 years later.>>

According to Colonial New Jersey Source Records, 1600s-1700s [database online], Genealogy.com: 1670 Dec. 30. Do [Patent]. to John ffrench of Woodbridge mason for: 1, 10 acres of upland on the West of Vaquellins [Vauquellin's?] Hill, along Israel Thorncum's meadow; 2, five acres of meadow, not yet laid out. Marg[ina]l Note: "This pattent is transported [?] to Robert Vauquellin." 1670 Dec. 31. Affidavit of John French, that he has conveyed land and meadow, mentioned in his patent to Robert Vauquellin. 1687 Dec. 12. Deed. John French of Staten Island, mason, to Peter Dassigny of Woodbridge, surgeon, for half a lot betw. Abraham Coole and Claese Smith on Staten Island. 1687 Dec. 12, Consent of Susanna, wife of John French, to the preceding conveyance. 1687 Dec. 12. Power of attorney. Same to same for the management of his affairs on Staten Island. 1688 April 11. Will of Thomas Bartlet of Barcla's Point over against Perth Amboy. Myles Forster sole heir and executor of real and personal estate. Witnesses--John and Sussanah French. Proved April 16, 1695. 1690 May 26. Do [Deed]. John Lambert to John French, for 10 acres on Slingtail Brook, N. Mathew Ganett, E. Stephen Kent. * * * According to Monnette, Orra Eugene, First Settlers of Ye Plantations of Piscataway and Woodbridge Olde East New Jersey, Los Angeles, CA: The Leroy Carman Press, 1932, part 4, p. 267, John FRENCH, who was then of Woodbridge, Middlesex County, NJ, executed his will which was dated January 1711/1712, and proved March 20, 1713. * * * We know that John FRENCH was "of Woodbridge," NJ no later than Dec. 30, 1670, when he received a patent for 15 acres of land in NJ. On the next day, he conveyed to Robert VAUQUELLIN the same 15-acre parcel of land. We know that as of December 12, 1687, John FRENCH was "of Staten Island," NY. On that date, he executed a power of attorney "for the management of his affairs on Staten Island," possibly because he was not going to be on Staten Island to manage his affairs there for himself. We know that as of April 11, 1688, John FRENCH was in NJ, because he witnessed a will executed on that date by "Thomas BARTLET of Barcla's Point over against Perth Amboy." We know that as of May 26, 1690, John FRENCH obtained a deed "for 10 acres on Slingtail Brook" in NJ. We know that John FRENCH died sometime before March 20, 1713, and at the time of his death was "of Woodbridge," Middlesex County, NJ. * * * According to an article regarding the history of early NJ, set forth at http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nj/statewide/history/history01.txt, the then newly-appointed Governor of NJ, Sir Philip CARTERET, and his entourage of some 30 passengers (mostly Frenchmen from the Channel Islands), set sail from England for America on the ship Philip in April 1665. Bad weather forced the ship to VA in May 1665, but after spending some weeks in VA, Carteret and his entourage finally arrived in NY on July 29, 1665. John FRENCH is not listed in that article as being one of the members of CARTERET's entourage, unless John was a man whose first name was "Joan alias Peter," and whose surname is not listed in that article. * * * According to Ellison, Harry C., Church of the Founding Fathers of New Jersey, a History: First Presbyterian Church, Elizabeth, New Jersey, 1664-1964, Cornish, ME: Carbrook Press, 1964, pp. 11 et seq. [reproduced in the Family & Local Histories section of Ancestry.com]: The greatest number of the land-owning Associates who founded Elizabeth Town, NJ came from eastern Long Island, NY; a smaller number of them came from CT; a few of them came from MA; and a few of them came from western Long Island. Among the Associates who founded Elizabeth Town were John OGDEN and his sons, who came from eastern Long Island. John OGDEN was an experienced church builder, having constructed a stone church in the fort at New Amsterdam in 1642. While no records of the first church building in Elizabeth Town have ever been found, John OGDEN and his sons probably built it, and the construction of the church was probably completed by 1668. [This is purely speculation on my part, but since John FRENCH was a mason, he might have been employed in the construction of that church.] Substantial numbers of new settlers, mostly Scotch Presbyterians, later came to East NJ to escape persecution in their native land. [For example, I have traced several FROSTs who were imported into East NJ by Robert FULLERTON in 1684.] However, most of these Scotch immigrants did not arrive in the area until several years after 1670, when John FRENCH obtained his land patent in NJ. Mike Frost

In a message dated 8/15/04 7:07:11 PM, [email protected] writes: << [Abstracted from the Original at the North Carolina Archives by Joel S. Russel] Field Return of the Regiment of Militia for Anson County, at a General Muster, the 19th day of November 1770, pursuant to the Governor's Orders At the Court House [Commissioned Officers] James Pickett, Captain Joseph French, Lieutenant William Pickett, Ensign 3 [Serjents] 3 [corporals] 1 [drummer] 53 [underarms] 10 [absent]62 [total] 47 [effective men] [Officers recommended to vacancies] William Pickett, Lieut., Robert Jarman, Ens. [Officers resigned or moved out of the County] Lieut. Joseph French removed out of the county >> _____________ J. We know that Joseph FRENCH moved out of Anson Co., NC by 19th day of November 1770. This was before the RW. Can we place the officers: James Pickett, Captain, Joseph French, Lieutenant (removed), William Pickett, Ensign (promoted to Lieut.) and Robert Jarman, (appointed Ensign) in a community/area? Joseph, son of Joseph and Hannah (Horn) FRENCH, could have been born from 1749 on which would have made him 21 or younger in 1770. This suggests that this Joseph FRENCH was the father. Property purchased in 1769 in 96th District, SC, by Joseph FRENCH is likely the reason for removal of Joseph from Anson Co. . NC. It should be remembered that Lafford FRENCH returned to NC after his second marriage (1806), perhaps to the old area from whence he came earlier with his father. Where was the Anson County Court House in 1770? Thoughts for today, Hugh

Oop! I am watching the Olympics and doing tax returns and reading email all at the same time. Montgomery is over the state line from Christen Co., KY. (I think). In a message dated 8/15/2004 7:47:58 PM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: The elder John died about 1796 in Montgomery Co., TN which is right over the state line