At 05:27 PM 8/12/2018, the cohens wrote: >Someone certainly could create a webpage at freepages with links to >the wayback machine to make it easier to find important old sites. > >That is how I handled things on my backup site, I made a webpage that >linked to all the individual pages from my freepages site, in the >Wayback Machine at archive.org. I knew it would be hard for people to >get the long links straight if they were printing or emailing or >typing them out. > >Sites like this should be restored even thought the creater is >deceased, but I guess they want a live person to take part in the >restoration. Pretty crumby. They restored all the genweb sites they >could identify, these others that were not genweb but basic genealogy >resources should be grandfathered in as if that was the case with them >as well. I can't speak for Anne/Ancestry, but I have to point out that copyright law has to be taken into consideration. If a RW account owner is deceased, who can authorize a restoration of that site?. Obviously Ancestry/RootsWeb can not BECAUSE, the site owner is responsible for privacy and/or copyright violations. So ... you as a subsequent account owner must not only agree to the terms and conditions, but have authorization to address privacy and/or copyright violation claims for the account. This is not a gotcha, but is something done by all hosting sites. If they give YOU access to their servers to upload content, all they can do is tell you what is NOT acceptable content for upload. If you ignore their rules/guidelines then YOU are responsible for objections to the content of your site. As an aside, GenWeb sites, i.e. XXCounty were created by RootsWeb many years ago, were assigned to coordinators recommended by USGW, but the accounts remain the property of RootsWeb.com for assignment as they determine. As a general rule RootsWeb will defer to the State Coordinator when it comes to access by county coordinators. Pat A.

Pat A., If a current webmaster is willing to assume all responsibility for copyright and living-person privacy, I don't see why Rootsweb would rather delete accounts of probably deceased webmasters, rather than letting people adopt the content. Personally, I think RW should delay deletions for at least a year. After a year, open an adoption process. And if the original account holder or their family shows up in the next year after, they have the right to reclaim the site. Two years is fair when so many of us are old, sick, etc. In the meantime, I also think Staff at Rootsweb needs to crosspost to all Lists and Message Boards that any unclaimed websites risk being deleted, so there's more chance that webmasters or their families will see the notice. I posted to my county's List;; several webmasters there had not heard that they needed to ask for restoration.

Hello everyone, copyright law has to be taken into consideration Which country's copyright law? The country where the servers are, the country of the person(s) whose data is listed, or the country of the webmaster? If the person is deceased, then publication was prior to their decease ... and if there were no problems then, how could there be later, since the law which would continue to apply was that in application at the time of publication? Caroline ____ "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French copyright law. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> To: Freepages Web Sites <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 13, 2018 12:50 am Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: IGI Batch numbers At 05:27 PM 8/12/2018, the cohens wrote: >Someone certainly could create a webpage at freepages with links to >the wayback machine to make it easier to find important old sites. > >That is how I handled things on my backup site, I made a webpage that >linked to all the individual pages from my freepages site, in the >Wayback Machine at archive.org. I knew it would be hard for people to >get the long links straight if they were printing or emailing or >typing them out. > >Sites like this should be restored even thought the creater is >deceased, but I guess they want a live person to take part in the >restoration. Pretty crumby. They restored all the genweb sites they >could identify, these others that were not genweb but basic genealogy >resources should be grandfathered in as if that was the case with them >as well. I can't speak for Anne/Ancestry, but I have to point out that copyright law has to be taken into consideration. If a RW account owner is deceased, who can authorize a restoration of that site?. Obviously Ancestry/RootsWeb can not BECAUSE, the site owner is responsible for privacy and/or copyright violations. So ... you as a subsequent account owner must not only agree to the terms and conditions, but have authorization to address privacy and/or copyright violation claims for the account. This is not a gotcha, but is something done by all hosting sites. If they give YOU access to their servers to upload content, all they can do is tell you what is NOT acceptable content for upload. If you ignore their rules/guidelines then YOU are responsible for objections to the content of your site. As an aside, GenWeb sites, i.e. XXCounty were created by RootsWeb many years ago, were assigned to coordinators recommended by USGW, but the accounts remain the property of RootsWeb.com for assignment as they determine. As a general rule RootsWeb will defer to the State Coordinator when it comes to access by county coordinators. Pat A. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/freepages-help Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

At 04:56 PM 8/14/2018, TilburyCM via FREEPAGES-HELP wrote: >Hello everyone, >copyright law has to be taken into consideration > > Which country's copyright law? The country where the servers are, > the country of the person(s) whose data is listed, or the country > of the webmaster? The country's copyright law under which the hosting service operates, and to whose terms and conditions the author/copyright holder agrees to when they request that the hosting service hosts their submitted content. >If the person is deceased, then publication was prior to their >decease ... and if there were no problems then, how could there be >later, since the law which would continue to apply was that in >application at the time of publication? Hosting services do not normally ask for exclusive publication rights, which in the U.S. must be transferred in writing. So while an author/copyright holder might have given non-exclusive rights to publish to a hosting service, those rights would cease to exist upon the author/copyright holder's decease, since any copyright, if it exists, would transfer under statute. Pat A.