I'm still confused about when a /li should not close. If nearly every index page begins a list, does that mean every index page link would not have the /li till later (after the first /ul in that set)? Do the closing tags after a tier 2 and 3 end in /ul /li e.g. can a list end in /li ? Or is it supposed to be this? /ul /li /ul - with this final /ul ? ?? So far, my errors are increasing with putting in the /lis. :-( Judy