What else did they hide they aren't telling anyone about till it's to late? On 08/03/2015 04:57 PM, Barry Carlson via wrote: > Billie, > > No need to be the prophet of doom! ;-) > > I agree the Windows 10 default settings for their Updates are not ideal, > but the solution is available in Settings as per the the following:- > > Click on the Windows 10 icon (left side of Taskbar) > Settings > Update & > Security > Windows Update > Advanced options > Choose how updates are > delivered > > > The slider should be On > > .. now select the Radio button marked - PCs on my local network. > > This prevents any outgoing updates traffic going on the Internet, and will > only provide data to any other PCs that are classified as belonging to > your Local Network (if you have one). > > You can now close the Windows dialogue page. > > Barry > ----------------- > On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 04:40:05 +1200, Billie Walsh via > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> DO NOT INSTALL WINDOWS 10!!!!!! >> >> Especially if you have limited bandwidth internet connections. Windows >> 10, by default, uses a system similar to Bittorrent >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent . What that means is that >> Windows uses YOUR computer to feed files and updates to other peoples >> computers. In effect they are stealing your internet bandwidth to update >> other computers. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

On Monday, August 3, 2015 6:12 PM, Billie Walsh via <[email protected]> wrote: What else did they hide they aren't telling anyone about till it's to late? That it's an AUTO INSTALL on Win 7 & 8, and certain APPs discontinued.  Others, "Pay for", in the future.  No "back up" w/o the right disks.  Older [non-optical] disks are rendered unreadable.  Windows Media Player is gone.  Now, there's a DVD, which they plan on charging for, after you "grab it".  Games ["Solitaire"] affected. (meh, never play those anyway, but many do.  A free game since 1990)  My biggest concern might be the excerpt below.  What might we LOSE with all these Installs, Clean Installs, et al.?  I'm no puter tech, but I know enough to know that one best have Restore Points, or it's a rollback to factory [I haven't even found how to do that on my Win 8.1]Maybe Barry can answer the 'data loss', as a possibility,.    Read this Forbes mag article from 4 days ago: Windows 10 Starts Charging For Missing Features |   | |   | |   |   |   |   |   | | Windows 10 Starts Charging For Missing FeaturesMicrosoft starts introducing costs to Windows 10 users to restore features it removed from Windows 7 and Windows 8... | | | | View on www.forbes.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | |   | http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/05/windows-10-charging/ Excerpt: Digging further into the player’s FAO page, Microsoft states only upgraders from Windows 7 or Windows 8 will get it free and users who perform clean installations of Windows 10 will not. Furthermore if users ever need to reinstall Windows 10 (for example, due to problems) then Microsoft doesn’t count that as coming from Windows 7 or Windows 8 and again you lose free access to Windows DVD Player unless you first install Windows 7 or Windows 8 then upgrade to Windows 10.  Then, there are the barrage of "ADS".  It's all in the above article, which is a rather "conservative" magazine.If Forbes is saying this isn't good, might it not be?     I have ABP [ad blocker];  I'm wondering if I will have to get rid of that, to even use Win 10.   "The proof will be in the pudding", but there's not much one can do about it. I'll try Barry's suggestions, but to try to keep Windows 10 from auto-downloading. I only just got a handle on using Win 8.1; now, this.   I'll NEVER get my freepage updated/changed at this rate.   Web 4 has been downloaded since January,  files were transferred to this newer laptop; all in one HUGE 2 GB Folder "old Puter".  Template and [coded: CSS & HTML] 'workups' Pat G. did for me, were moved into Web 4, as per my son helping.  As he thought, Web 4 is too advanced for me.  I have a mess on my hands. Also, I have a "compatibility" issue w/Web 4; guess that's because I'm using Google Chrome, and not IE, or FF?  I haven't bothered posting here about it.  I had used Firefox, so everything I've saved/done is by using FF as my browser.  I have a lot of reordering of Files to do, from "Old Puter" Folder.  Otherwise, it makes sense that I will have a conflict, since I set up my folders as per Pat's 'like a filing cabinet' tutorial.  [Can't have the same name, in different folders:  eg. My Webs, right?]Reading here is helpful, but it's still difficult for me to understand.    Win 10 is probably the least of my worries.       Kathie Buchanan  [Should have started a new topic, sorry.  I've meant to send drafts about my File Folders and problems w/ Web 4, many times, but never did so.  Too long/complicated.  Plus, I don't know where to begin w/ explaining my problems any better than I have here.  I know you will all want to help me, and I'm not ready.  Maybe this winter, when I'm snowed in for months at a time.  By then, I might understand how to use Win 10, if/when it's forced upon me, automatically...]  08/03/2015 04:57 PM, Barry Carlson via wrote: > I agree the Windows 10 default settings for their Updates are not ideal, > but the solution is available in Settings as per the the following:- > > Click on the Windows 10 icon (left side of Taskbar) > Settings > Update & > Security > Windows Update > Advanced options > Choose how updates are > delivered > > > The slider should be On > > .. now select the Radio button marked - PCs on my local network. > > This prevents any outgoing updates traffic going on the Internet, and will > only provide data to any other PCs that are classified as belonging to > your Local Network (if you have one). > > You can now close the Windows dialogue page. > > Barry > ----------------- > On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 04:40:05 +1200, Billie Walsh via > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> DO NOT INSTALL WINDOWS 10!!!!!! >> >> Especially if you have limited bandwidth internet connections. Windows >> 10, by default, uses a system similar to Bittorrent >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent . What that means is that >> Windows uses YOUR computer to feed files and updates to other peoples >> computers. In effect they are stealing your internet bandwidth to update >> other computers. Kathie notes:  I don't even really understand the above.  But, BitTorrent was used by my son for video gaming on his old computer.  It was nearly impossible to remove.  I trashed the old laptop after transferring files.  It was rendered useless after deleting the programs that were my younger son's.