I think you covered most everything. The only thing I see you missed is that everyone has a different size monitor at all sort of resolutions so there's no way you can guarantee exactly what someone will see. Other than that, as cold and crass as it sounds, just tell them it can't be done the way they want. _PERIOD_ End of story. They take what they get or don't get anything. From your message it sounds kind of like your doing a census page. When I did a census page I made an extract of the basic information. Enough that a researcher can be fairly certain it's the person they are looking for and then have the image for them to look at to get all the information available. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wyhotsp2/census/index.html On 12/26/2010 01:50 PM, J.A. Florian wrote: > A dear online friend has no web making experience and is like most people > unfamiliar with HTML, meaning, they don't realize just what is involved in > making "a" page. (Like I was when I started - LOL). > > Often, submitters think that it should be no problem if their submission is > in one Excel file of over 2,000 to 4,000 rows (and want me to make it into > a "web page"). Or, that the submission is "extra-extra" wide, like two > oversized book single pages (with both pages very wide--- such as the total > open width of a large Court House docket book). > > For several months I've made and sent examples of how we could present data > she has transcribed. But with A to O columns, there will be a right-side > scroll no matter what I do. My friend hasn't liked my examples. I > suggested we break the data into 2 webpages -- but she wants each person's > data to be on one web page (meaning, every person would have A to O data for > each person, with new rows for the next person). There are thousands of > persons. She wants a first column to bear the original numbering for each > person (adding to the width). > > When I tried explaining that any wide page would have a right-scroll, she > just said she doesn't want it like that. She's so determined to fit all the > columns on one page that her file is using a Font size 1 -- too small to > read. Then, she said she wants users to be able to easily print the > page--- and expects that I can make the web page in such a way to squeeze > double-wide pages into a 8.5x11.5 sheet of printed paper (profile printing > as well)---with a "1" font ! I tried using a real book as an example to say > "I can't squeeze more onto a printed page than what the printed page will > hold." These pages would be less wide than a Census, but pretty similar to > the width of a Census Image. Just like I can't take a long photo the size > of three 8x10s (over sofa photo frame) and reduce it to one 8x10 while still > keeping the image large enough to see the content, I can't take over-sized > tabular data and squeeze it down either. > > So, could someone here suggest anything else I can say to my friend to make > it easier for her to understand why a web page won't do what she wants it to > do? > > Thanks, > > Judy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Her data is not a census page -- but just about as wide as one! They are transcribing data from a county register (one of those huge oversized Court House dockets) and putting the data into Excel. She's been insistent that I should be able to UN-widen the data for the webpage, have it viewable on one page with NO scroll, and printable onto one print page. I think it's easiest to have her put the info into Excel... and I'd just clean the code and make the table as narrow as I can BUT without being too small for type. *I* don't want to have to copy-paste each part of each line in order to design the data horizontally. It's just too much work. I hate to go to "take it or leave it" but I'm getting frustrated. I, too, wish the WWW *could* display extra wide photos or data -- but I'm not in charge of the WWW. (grin) So I guess if I can't get her to understand the issues involved, I'll have to just tell her to take it somewhere else. Judy On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > I think you covered most everything. The only thing I see you missed is > that everyone has a different size monitor at all sort of resolutions so > there's no way you can guarantee exactly what someone will see. > > Other than that, as cold and crass as it sounds, just tell them it can't > be done the way they want. _PERIOD_ End of story. They take what they > get or don't get anything. > > From your message it sounds kind of like your doing a census page. When > I did a census page I made an extract of the basic information. Enough > that a researcher can be fairly certain it's the person they are looking > for and then have the image for them to look at to get all the > information available.