Thanks, Judy!  You've painstakingly gathered info & offered your experience with having BOTH Google and Free Find site search engines on your wonderful, massive & very useful site pages.  [I am looking at all of your new data!  Your site has proved very helpful for my lines in Washington Co, PA.  Thank you for that hard work too!]  Your comparisons of G & FF help, without any prejudice as to which is "better". This is very kind of you!   I might be chastised for what I am going to question in this thread rather the other, but I can take an unwarranted slam [just as you have].    I note the "limit of 5000" with FF.  Judy wrote: I would like to give the following comparisons of Freefind and Google Webmaster Tools:  I will try to match these point by point.  But I send separate emails for each one. Freefind (abbreviated here as FF) - FREE and paid versions. - Requires code for search box. - I believe the man who owns it is called Alan (?).  He is very nice to work with if you have a problem. - Has a user Account interface.  Allows user some controls. - Limited to 5,000 items (htm, html, jpg, gif, pdf, txt) - But you can request higher amount for total "item" indexing; decided on a case by case basis. <Snipped> In the last few days, Vanessa had posted that she was having problems with seeing her FF on her site. [as per her recent thread: "Free Find has disappeared".  I'm CC'ing this to Vanessa in case she doesn't notice your post; doesn't miss your great info.] I checked Vanessa's site, and found her FF was working perfectly fine. I replied to Vanessa [off-list] about DNS errors and connectivity problems [concerned abt. being slammed for being "OT" here].  That said, beyond what seem Vanessa's probable connectivity/DNS problems, might Vanessa have reached this: "Limited to 5,000 items (htm, html, jpg, gif, pdf, txt)" Could this "limit" cause Vanessa to not be able to see her Free Find, when others can?  [Again, barring other connectivity problems] Could reaching this "limit" cause a DNS Error?    Vanessa's site is massive; chock full of Currier & Ives images and "(htm, html, jpg, gif, pdf, txt)" It wouldn't surprise that she has more than "5000 items".   Thanks again, for all of your help, both, with these comparisons of FF and Google search engines, and all of your many kind & helpful past posts; your "point" gets points from 'the novice', me!    Kathie Buchanan