My partner had to migrate to Windows 10 because he got a new computer. Lots of pro's and some pretty big con's. Pro's -- legacy programs installed like a charm. The thing I was worried about was installing Eudora, his one and only email program which had its final update in 2006. Works perfectly, I used the original install file which had probably been around since Windows 95 or Windows 2000. Con's -- The interface is a nightmare to anyone who isn't a computer geek -- even the alternate "classic" mode. The computer store pre-installed Libre Office, because he used Openoffice with his old computer. No problem reading his old files but changing them and saving them often results in the file being saved somewhere in Neverland and can only be found again with a file search. I understand that Windows 10 is more powerful and supports a trillion different devices, but why can't they leave the interface alone? Or at least have a "Windows XP' mode? I would dearly love to try Linux but I have legacy programs such as Eudora and Brothers Keeper that I can't lose. Once someone assures me that I can run them under Linux, then I'm outta here. Charlie Dobie. At 11:21 AM 1/9/2016, you wrote: >Hi all, > >Here are my five cents worth of input. I switched to Windows 10 and am well >pleased with its performance. Guess I should say that I am a long time >Microsoft user. It is a personal preference. When I downloaded Windows 10 I >was a little concerned that some of my other old programs would not work >anymore. Well, great joy, I installed FrontPage 2003 and it still works as >good as it always did. I still use Family Tree maker 2006. It too works >well. I have a few other old programs installed and am using them without >any trouble. > >Like I said, it is a personal choice. > >Kind regards, > > >Heidi Boos-Utley >Email: [email protected] >URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-----Original Message----- >From: Billie Walsh via >Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 09:57 >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Internet Explorer - End of Support > >According to Microsoft there will never be another "version" of Windows. >Ten will just get incremental updates from now on. > >Some people are still using, much to Microsoft's chagrin, Windows XP. >Just because support stops doesn't mean that the OS dies on the spot. > >As an alternative to Microsoft/Windows I often suggest Linux. I use >Kubuntu Linux. Any version of Linux with the KDE desktop is a good >choice for a Windows user. The user interface is very familiar to >ex-windows users. I have Mint Linux running on one little Asus EeePC. >Linux seems to support much older equipment than Windows. > >[Sidebar] > >I have to wonder about Microsoft giving away free Windows 10. Windows >has always been Microsoft's cash cow. Where does the revenue stream come >from after this. > >Linux is, and has always been, "free" but there's no big corporate >structure with dozens [ hundreds ] of paid employees that have to get a >paycheck. Each version is maintained by a group of individuals that >volunteer their expertise. > >On 01/09/2016 08:47 AM, Kabe via wrote: > > On Thursday, January 7, 2016 2:22 PM, Barry Carlson via > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > As of January 12, 2016, Microsoft will be ending support for Internet > > Explorer 8, 9, and 10. This means that those browsers will no longer > > receive security updates, which will make them more vulnerable to > > hackers. > > > > Internet Explorer 11 will be supported well into the future, as it is > > capable of running legacy modes of the browser back to and including > > IE5. > > > > The MS Edge browser and IE11 are of course both supported in Windows > > 10, and I suspect that this move is part of Microsoft's plan to migrate > > existing MS O/S users to Windows 10. > > > > > > Thanks for the heads up, Barry. Once again, Microsoft, literally, "takes > > the cake"! So much for MS May 2015 > > > announcement:http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/microsoft-confirms-there-will-be-no-windows-11-1293309 > > > > I'm still being prompted to Install Windows 10, but do not want it. > > I truly believe that having Win 10 "waiting" in my tray for me to > > "Install" is the cause of my puter overheating. Luckily, I have "HP Cool > > Sense" turned "ON", but have lost work, due to the auto-shutdowns. Plus, > > the overheating weakened my laptop's hinge [right by the fan]. Looks like > > I'll be needing to buy another LT; all "thanks" go to Microsoft. > > The overheating began after MS "auto-updated" KB3035583, which a bit > > later allowed for Win 10 to auto-download. My puter can be quiet as a > > mouse, but when MS is pushing it's product on me, my LT roars. My LT got > > so hot it nearly burned my skin. I vacuumed and cleaned my fans, but > > that's NOT the problem. I checked the "BIOS Drivers". I'm up to date. > > I'm convinced that the roaring/overheating/shutdowns are being caused by > > Microsoft wanting to force their Win 10 Install. > > Looks like I best get moving fast, if I am going to be able to Disable > > Update KB3035583, however daunting the task is. If "Support" and > > "Updates" end on 1/12/2016, I might not be able to do anything about the > > "auto-updates" already on here? If I find that impossible, I'm guessing > > that to get Win 11, [surprised MS didn't just 'skip' to Win 1000, as > > they'd done w/ Win 9, LOL], I will first must Upgrade from 8.1, [or, I > > might have 8.2?] to Win 10, and then to Win 11. > > Just as, say, Win 7 users must first Upgrade to 8, and then, 8.1, plus > > have all of the "Service Packs" installed too, before they can even think > > of [maybe succeed?] installing Win 10. Then, depending on "System > > Requirements", Win 11, and all for what? "Support"? More like, "Melting > > my LT down!" > > The good news is that I use Chrome. If I'm to go into debt for a new > > puter, might as well get an Apple. After all, "it's only money", or > > that's what these mega-corporations think! We The People is a joke. > > I'm age sixty-two, and will likely see the day come when only the very > > elite will have access to "The Net". What we know as the internet had > > begun as "a government weapon in the Cold War"; what's changed? > > http://www.history.com/topics/inventions/invention-of-the-internet > > Microsoft [and ancestry.com's "Family Tree Maker"] sure "put on the > > kibosh". Yet, why are we ever surprised? > > > > Do try to stay "safe"! Barry gave some other helpful ways to do that > > which I snipped, due to length]. > > Kathie Buchanan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. >You must learn to be slow in a hurry. >-Wyatt Earp- > >_ _... ..._ _ >_._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2016.0.7294 / Virus Database: 4489/11363 - Release Date: 01/09/16 Charles Dobie, [email protected]
There's a program for Linux that allows a lot of Windows software to run with Linux called "Wine". Wine has a database of software that has been tested and found to work to one extent or another. If you don't find what you are looking for in the database it doesn't mean it won't work. It just may have never been tested. https://appdb.winehq.org/ I know at least one older version of Family Tree Maker works and I use PAF all the time. Paintshop Pro five and six also work just fine. Eudora shows up on the listing as one that works well. Brothers Keeper doesn't sjow up but it might work fine. It just may have never been tested, or works but wasn't reported. On 01/09/2016 01:00 PM, Charles Dobie via wrote: > I would dearly love to try Linux but I have legacy programs such as > Eudora and Brothers Keeper that I can't lose. Once someone assures me > that I can run them under Linux, then I'm outta here. -- Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. You must learn to be slow in a hurry. -Wyatt Earp- _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._
Charlie, I checked out of curiosity and there is a version of Eudora for Linux. Although like the Windows version it's no longer supported. You can download it on cnet. Eudora is a commercial mail program that was based off Thunderbird. Thunderbird is still being maintained and works for both Windows and Linux. Have you ever tried it? It's the email program I've used for years. A good way to see if your software is known to work in Linux is to check the WINE HQ database. This is the one for Brothers Keeper. https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=7841 It seems the trick to getting it to work it to copy a file from your Windows system that WINE can't install. I haven't tried it but might later. Their is also information there on how to get FrontPage web designer working in WINE. It's important to click on the tests to read the information. Often if you see a lot of reports of "garbage" it's because someone tried a one click install. Then you see ratings of gold or silver and it will have notes that a simple setting was changed that caused the program to work. I know that Linux has a version of FileZilla it's what I use to update my website. One idea if it helps. If you really want to run Linux but need Windows for just a few important programs that wont run in WINE for you, you can run a copy of Windows in a virtual box in Linux. I do this and it works well. A virtual box lets you run more than one operating system at the same time. You can also share files back and forth between them if you want to. I installed the free virtualbox software and then installed a copy of Windows that I already own into that. In this case it's XP. I use that to run FTM 2012 and RootsMagic 7 because FTM will not work in Linux at all. RM7 will run in WINE but I find it buggy that way. My laptop does have Windows 10 on it as well when I need to use that for something. What I like about this setup is that most of the software I use is made for Linux but a few I love is Windows only. I have older software that runs better in XP then newer windows. Since it's in a virtualbox I can back that up and easily re import it into my computer if it was to become corrupt. I can also block it from accessing the internet through Windows if security in an older operating system is a concern. Kim On 16-01-09 02:00 PM, Charles Dobie via wrote: > > I would dearly love to try Linux but I have legacy programs such as > Eudora and Brothers Keeper that I can't lose. Once someone assures me > that I can run them under Linux, then I'm outta here. > > Charlie Dobie. > >