When I asked Barry for his help with Mobile code, I told him I mainly wanted to get Google / Webmaster Tools off my back about being mobile "unfriendly". Barry wrote it so it says my site isn't really designed for Mobile-- a nice way to say, "use a regular PC to see my site". For now, I'm content with that much. IF I'm still able in a few years, maybe I'll want to "upgrade". But back to my question.. I look at margins, padding, width, and just don't know what to change to make it thinner outside border and wider innnermost content. I picked Table2 thinking that was the one-- but it doubled the innermost content width so it scrolled far right. Not good. I've ripped apart the whole site already. I'm ready to copy content-- IF I can fix the CSS for the background image (repeat?? fixed?? how? where?) and the space for outermost and innermost areas. I re-used the CSS that Barry so generously helped me with the last time, but the layout does not the show up the same as the other site. I think Barry's been busy, so I hope the List can help me sort out these pesky layout problems. As an aside, I'm so ticked off that educators decided to introduce "New Math" in my grade school. I was fine in math before that-- but "new math" confused me. Educators stopped New Math the next year because students were getting Fs -- but by then, the damage had been done. For me, numbers never made sense again. I never went on to any higher math in HS - got a diploma without taking geometry or trig. I know it sounds stupid, but I truly don't understand and cannot "figure" how CSS pixels are decided. I'm still back at 100% means whole; 50% is half, etc. Percents make sense.... seeing 690px does not make any sense to me. Could someone help me get this sorted out? I *think* I can do most of the pages if I can just get the layout straightened out. Judy