Here is the css (looks messy online, sorry) http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/test_with_feb-09-2016.css Here is the page: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/test_with_feb-09-2016_css-new.htm First, W3 does not like these 2 together in the CSS (see below). background-repeat: repeat; background-position: fixed; Am I supposed to have both? Second, I've been searching for the # pixels or percents to use for page layouts with double or triple borders. I'm not having much luck and don't know what are acceptable widths. Could someone tell me what I need to change to make the centermost "content" area wider and the outermost thinner? Based on the differences between these 2 pages--- I could use a bit more outermost than what is showing on this OLD page - Maybe show double the width than what it shows now? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/ But half the width of this outermost border, so the border is not SO wide--- http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/test_with_feb-09-2016_css-new.htm And, could you switch all of the width and padding statements to percents rather than pixels because it's easier for me to understand. The online version of the CSS looks messy so I'll give the sections here <!-- /* =========================================== OUTERMOST TRIPLE BORDER and BODY STYLES /*downtown-washington-pa*/ ============================================== */ body { background-image: url('graphics/site/a_uptown_eosbokchito_68.8kb.gif'); background-repeat: repeat; background-position: fixed; font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 0.9em; color:#000; text-align:center; } /* ====================== And... /* ============================================ MIDDLEMOST TRIPLE BORDER COLOR: http://www.color-hex.com/color/ecdac2 =============================================== */ #table1 { width:98%; background-image: #f9f0e9; url:('bk_main_eos_68.8kb.gif'); } /* ============================================ INNERMOST TRIPLE BORDER - COLOR: http://www.color-hex.com/color/faf4e4 NOTE: The image jpg is commented out. =============================================== */ #table2 { width:100%; border:ridge 3px #aaa; background: #f5f4ef ; } #table3, #table4 { width: 20%; font-size: 80%; font-weight: bold; text-align: center; } #table4 { width: 90%; } //--> Hope the CSS items goes through the list okay. I also need to know if the content area will automatically expand to the right to accommodate Atlas Maps? (Or should I use a different layout for those pages?) And, is the new page ( http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/test_with_feb-09-2016_css-new.htm ) still technically a triple border with the middlemost one just super thin? (It's the way I want it between outermost and innermost, but is it still a triple border layout or a double border layout? scratching head...) Judy