Many thanks to Charlie and Pat Geary for their continuing efforts to help me. A couple of miscellaneous notes: Let me note first that there have been several references to Pat's Geary family publishing guidance on how to use filezilla. Sorry to say this, but https://www.ancestry.com/academy/course/connect-rootsweb-filezilla does not work for me. The pictures are all blurry and the sound unintelligible. Maybe it's my computer but guidance on Filezilla must come from elsewhere. This doesn't help. I've tried it half a dozen times. Second, under guidance from Charlie, I've been poking around my files and I found a document with file size of 1,737,528 -- huge and far larger than almost anything else on my computer. This aroused my suspicion that that large ile was jamming my efforts to use filezilla. Maybe not. What was it? It was my 2007 obituary for my long-gone dog Ruff Boyer. Big obit. Poor guy. He bit me and now maybe he broke my Filezilla. I found the remote directory tree, as Charlie recommended, and clicking on Upload in the left pane on one of my files did produce the message "Target File Already Exists." I chose to override, and the file said "Transfers finished." And then I went to Firefox and put in what I believe to be my url, and I get only old files, not the new one I uploaded today. I think perhaps I don't know where to look to find the updated file from Kompozer, or perhaps it's just not there. I can open it with the URL you gave me off-line and the links all work, but if I look at what I think is the uploaded revised website, nothing new appears. I think the Kompozer and Filezilla files are the same, and so I guess I have not yet found the source of my problem. I won't pursue the public.html directory idea, since you seem to agree that wasn't the issue. Thanks again for your efforts. Neil -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 10:14 AM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 208 Send FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list submissions to freepages-help@rootsweb.com To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body subscribe to freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and body unsubscribe to freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at freepages-help-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of FREEPAGES-HELP digest..." When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> Today's Topics: 1. Help with Filezilla (Charles Carothers) 2. img floats - CSS for centering and text centering (JFlorian) 3. Re: img floats - CSS for centering and text centering (Patricia Geary) 4. Re: Help with Filezilla (Pat Asher) 5. Re: img floats - CSS for centering and text centering (JFlorian) 6. Re: img floats - CSS for centering and text centering (Bruce Coyne) 7. Re: IGI Batch numbers website (Ann McClean) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 06:15:06 -0500 From: Charles Carothers <csquared71@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Help with Filezilla To: Freepages Help <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAGmaTgz7GLUcxdS+LYB=51mzOF6xmyy6bzbLMXG5DTVYfKiPsQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" OK, Pat - you are likely correct. I said I was on shaky ground there! :-) I've never understood how exactly, but I know that web sites have a "root level" (for want of a better term) directory in which at least the index.htm or index.html file must exist. I've always assumed that this directory name was specified by the host, and I suspect it is used by the host to easily find the index.html file - which does not necessarily appear in the browser path either. In my experience, that directory is never visible in the path shown in the browser though it is somehow implied and required as the "starting point" for the web site. If genealogy_html works for you, then it should work for Neil and everyone else as well. I was just hoping (without much justification evidently) that that might be the root cause of Neil's final issue. Part of that hope was based on the fact that the invisible (but required) root level directory for the site I'm paid to maintain is public_html! Oh well... Best regards, -- Charlie Carothers https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.freebiblecommentary.org&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=yb9rnebynHvbjTiHXDqcxXOsfKzE0JFL8i1lXL2fGAg&s=v80a3-zPqXeuxPwXup570KxbWwSvu_Nywx3lG2Whmlo&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__freebiblecommentary.org&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=AGsq94QXfKqnOmeiylQOdyiSx1pxsPac8QlHnLzZS9o&m=yb9rnebynHvbjTiHXDqcxXOsfKzE0JFL8i1lXL2fGAg&s=SOND04qBv9r0oCi4tnnp8krCpV3AjP-b5tg-wlJMqi8&e=> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 07:46:41 -0400 From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]img floats - CSS for centering and text centering To: "LIST_freepages-help@rootsweb.com" <freepages-help@rootsweb.com>, "LIST: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com" <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAE5hz-D4wm0GCBphOn++j9Qzgse5Fp1Oqq5C1wmdEknt6sRsxw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I realized I was expecting imgctr to make an image be centered and controlled by external css. To make the tags consistent, what could I put to manage imgctr ? Could I just copy the padding and margin settings? Barry has these under floats /* ==================== .imgrgt { /* image to right of text; padding by trial */ float: right; padding: 2px; padding-right: 5px; } .imglft { /* image to left of text */ float: left; padding: 2px; margin-right: 5px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px; } .text_line { clear: both; margin-bottom: 2px; } /* ==================== J ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:27:40 -0400 From: "Patricia Geary" <pat@the-gearys.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: img floats - CSS for centering and text centering To: "'Freepages Web Sites'" <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <001101d43ba5$da06fa40$8e14eec0$@the-gearys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Judy, this works for me .imgctr { display: block; margin: 0px auto; } Pat G -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:cageycat@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 7:47 AM To: LIST_freepages-help@rootsweb.com <freepages-help@rootsweb.com>; LIST: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]img floats - CSS for centering and text centering I realized I was expecting imgctr to make an image be centered and controlled by external css. To make the tags consistent, what could I put to manage imgctr ? Could I just copy the padding and margin settings? Barry has these under floats /* ==================== .imgrgt { /* image to right of text; padding by trial */ float: right; padding: 2px; padding-right: 5px; } .imglft { /* image to left of text */ float: left; padding: 2px; margin-right: 5px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 5px; } .text_line { clear: both; margin-bottom: 2px; } /* ==================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 08:46:01 -0400 From: Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Help with Filezilla To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <201808241246.w7OCgHEW016124@mx0a-002f8e01.pphosted.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:01 AM 8/24/2018, freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >6. OK, I'm on shaky ground here because I have not yet tried to do anything >with my old Freepages site. Here is what I know: when I type >https://sites.rootsweb.com/~boyerlinks into the Chrome browser I see your >site. I do not however see genealogy_html in the path to the site. I >actually suspect this may be your final remaining problem that is not >allowing you to see the changes to your site that you have made. I went >back to a copy of an email from Anne and followed this link to see what she >said about using Filezilla. >https://www.ancestry.com/academy/course/connect-rootsweb-filezilla >The thing I noticed as I watched the video is that when she connected to >the remote side, the directory was public_html. I'm thinking that for now >anyway this may be a requirement! If so, that explains why changes to >genealogy_html don't show up in your browser. So, with some degree of >ignorance on my part, I'm going to suggest that you navigate to the >public_html directory on the host side and upload your modified html file >to there. Charles (and Neil), USGenWeb and Homepages accounts have a public_html folder. Freepages accounts do not. I still can't access my Freepages account because of the duplicate account name issue, but the correct remote directory for Freepages accounts is genealogy_html. And Anne hopes to have the other directories available soon. Pat Asher ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 09:00:18 -0400 From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: img floats - CSS for centering and text centering To: Freepages Web Sites <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAE5hz-Ar_fhBeNXxysiT1FMEQTSBrESv3wkAZ2cdqCVpmyicVw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thank you! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 13:11:18 +0000 From: Bruce Coyne <nyjester@live.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: img floats - CSS for centering and text centering To: "freepages-help@rootsweb.com" <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BN6PR15MB1876A6D261ED9C15ADDFAC19AB360@BN6PR15MB1876.namp rd15.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I'm having a hard time getting my posts thru so I'm trying a reply. Will the rootsweb counter ever come back? Bruce On 8/24/2018 7:46 AM, JFlorian wrote: > I realized I was expecting imgctr to make an image be centered and > controlled by external css. > > To make the tags consistent, what could I put to manage imgctr ? 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I'm thinking that you are working with two sets of files, Neil. The one set that you are opening and editing in Kompozer and the one set that you are showing as the local site in FIlezilla. Try this - Note the location of YOUR local site from Filezilla In my case it is Local site: F:\www\rw-freepages-mobile\ Start Kompozer > Go to File > Open File > Navigate to the SAME LOCATION specified as your local site in Filezilla. Edit your page and save it in Kompozer. Switch to Filezilla > Refresh the display > right click on the file you just edited and select Upload > View that page in your browser http://sites.rootsweb.com/~boyerlinks/ And see if the editing changes show as they should. Pat G -----Original Message----- From: Neil Boyer [mailto:naboyer@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 11:30 AM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Cc: 'Neil A. Boyer ' <naboyer@comcast.net>; 'Johanna Misey Boyer ' <johannaboyer@hotmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 208 - More Filezilla I found the remote directory tree, as Charlie recommended, and clicking on Upload in the left pane on one of my files did produce the message "Target File Already Exists." I chose to override, and the file said "Transfers finished." And then I went to Firefox and put in what I believe to be my url, and I get only old files, not the new one I uploaded today. I think perhaps I don't know where to look to find the updated file from Kompozer, or perhaps it's just not there. I can open it with the URL you gave me off-line and the links all work, but if I look at what I think is the uploaded revised website, nothing new appears. I think the Kompozer and Filezilla files are the same, and so I guess I have not yet found the source of my problem. I won't pursue the public.html directory idea, since you seem to agree that wasn't the issue.