On 02/28/2011 05:54 AM, Pat Geary wrote: > At 12:29 AM 2/28/2011, Billie Walsh wrote: >> I know the prevailing wisdom is that you should use CSS for that sort of >> thing, but you can do the same sort thing with tables and it takes a lot >> less coding. > =============== > What extra coding Billie? The HTML code is just that clean with NO > style formatting at all. > All of the layout styles and the formatting styles are in the style > sheet which loads once for the entire site. And to change the look of > the site, rather than edit every single page, you edit the one style > sheet. > > Pat But how long is the style sheet? From memory, when I looked at the style sheet last night it took several lines to accomplish the effect. I admit that I'm very bad at reading and understanding how all the styles stuff works but a style sheet is more coding. It's just not contained within the page itself. It still has to be loaded into the browser. I love what you've accomplished. In fact, I'm a little envious. I don't understand how all the styles stuff works. When I learned to do web pages all there was available was Notepad, IE1 and about four pages of printed HTML tags and attributes [ in large type single sided ]. With everything I haven't found time to study and learn CSS/styles. I have been working on it slowly the last few months when I have some time. I don't use the exact same thing on every page. I might do a variation on the theme or if there are different categories I will use the same style on all the pages within the category. As a general rule with the pages I do most there is no change. Once it's done, it's upload and walk away. All I was saying is that you can accomplish the same effect with standard HTML 4.0 table attributes unless you want to use graphics. For graphics you have to use a non-standard table attribute [ background ]. The page I posted only has style elements that were put in by Open Office. I left them in for the effect they gave the data spaces. Kind of different. Heres another page with absolutely no style tags other than what might be there from Rootsweb or the Find A Grave search box. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~arfulttp/cemetery/index.html [ I was doing some playing with colors when I made those pages. ] I know the current thinking is that you have to use style elements to do _everything_ but I see no reason why you can't use standard tag attributes to accomplish something. -- "A good moral character is the first essential in a man." George Washington _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._