Judy, I have no idea if this is what you are looking for or not http://www.css-layouts.org/judy/default.html Best I can do for right now. CSS is commented. Tables are extremely easy to clean up to just a basic table layout using table2 clipboard. Now it even retains hyperlinks and images. http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/table2clipboard.html should work the same way in fp I made no attempt to do anything more than the basic content of this page, no headers, no search etc. You can get them from one of the orignal templates or copy what you currently have. I also did not use anything more than a basic folder setup. If you have specific questions about the layout I will try and answer them. outer and middle div have red and black borders so you can distinguish them. pat ---------- Pat Geary, Microsoft MVP - Expression Web We discuss FrontPage and Expression Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/expression-web/ http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ Migrating from FrontPage to Expression Web EBook Revised to include EW 3.0 http://frontpage-to-expression.com/