Pat, I appreciate what you've done... but I'm more confused without the sections commented. The zzz_template_css-tidy.htm page has your comments from the "misc" website. The full URL is http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/o_f2/mcdonald-pa_3/zzz_template_css-tidy.htm The problem I'm having is the above URL doesn't like something about your (new) default.css or the css file I tried to do based on the CSS you wrote for the "misc" web. --On my expample ( above), it didn't like the center & middle image-as-color. --On your new default.css the above page shows ONLY the dirty-purple background (the overall background that I want changed anyway) and shows none of the triple borders. I don't understand why the page is not working with my attempted css file or your default.css file. I don't need a lot of special stuff for the tables (for example .question etc. wouldn't be used except on one page). The majority of pages have repeating 2-cell 1 row table, separated by a centered * followed by another 2-cell 1 row table and so on. Like on the zzz_template_css-tidy.htm page. On these tables, a newspaper image goes in the left cell; the typed text of the article goes on the right cell. And below the typed text is a 'credit' line for the typist. As an example, see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/o_f2/mcdonald-pa_3/bannister_to_barclay.htm So ideally, I'd like to get http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/o_f2/mcdonald-pa_3/zzz_template_css-tidy.htm to work with the revised CSS file (based on the one you wrote for misc) so I have a template to start using. I really need the commented sections on the page and in the css so I can follow and understand what goes where. The colors I like: The overall background #FAEBD7 The outer border is : butterscotch.jpg The middle and inner borders are both beige1.jpg If I can get one template to work, then I can get started. Thank you, Judy On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Pat Geary <pat@the-gearys.com> wrote: > Judy, I have no idea if this is what you are looking for or not > http://www.css-layouts.org/judy/default.html > > Best I can do for right now. CSS is commented. Tables are extremely easy to > clean up to just a basic table layout using table2 clipboard. Now it even > retains hyperlinks and images. > http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/table2clipboard.html should work > the same way in fp > > I made no attempt to do anything more than the basic content of this page, > no headers, no search etc. You can get them from one of the orignal > templates or copy what you currently have. I also did not use anything more > than a basic folder setup. > > If you have specific questions about the layout I will try and answer them. > outer and middle div have red and black borders so you can distinguish them. >