At 03:43 AM 3/20/2011, J.A. Florian wrote: >I picked these colors to replace the original colors: >outer #330000 (dark cherry) -- all over background >Middle: #0E0004 >Inner: #E2D2BA Judy, the outer color is specified in the body styles. the middle color is specified for the styles for div #outerwrapper the inner color is specified for the div #innerwrapper http://www.css-layouts.org/judy/pat.html I can hardly tell the difference between the outermost layer and the middle layer colors. pat