I have this site and css: http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ I wanted to take that css and change the triple border colors, the head-banner, and the navigation, and then use it on part of my school-alumni site. I'm having trouble changing the colors correctly. First, I understand css better if I use the words outermost, middle, and inner, to describe triple borders, going from the edge (outer) to center of the screen (inner). Middle is the narrow color or image between the two. (That's the way I describe it.) I picked these colors to replace the original colors: outer #330000 (dark cherry) -- all over background Middle: #0E0004 Inner: #E2D2BA I tried changing one color at a time, but I've gotten confused. The main result is that I get the #30000 cherry color between the head-banner and the content area, and again in the footer. I can only make the whole page be the #E2D2BA color (but I want the triple borders). I'm not understanding the exact places where the outer #330000 (dark cherry) and the Middle: #0E0004 each belong. Second, when I uploaded the test files, the bottom RW banner is under the page's banner. I don't understand why. I did re-validate the css and validated the test page. The URLs http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/test/index with only the "inner" color working http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/test/rd.css _includes top.htm nav-RD.htm bottom.htm 3dflags.htm (images not uploaded) Any help appreciated. Also, am I supposed to have a "full background" color to replace everything if the triple borders fail?? Judy