Judy and all, This subject of understanding and using style sheets crops up repeatedly and not just on this list. I have been through this myself. The problem seems to be two fold, first, not understanding style sheets which is an ongoing and never ending process and second, lack of style sheet organization. I don't know why the second is never addressed in online tutorials. It is just as important as the organization of a web site. In fact, the two should mirror each other. The first can be greatly improved by improving the second since a better organized style sheet can be understood by anyone. Even non-html users can find what they need in the style sheet if it is organized. My solution has evolved over time from frustration, the same that Judy is experiencing, and looking for a better style sheet. I think I have a start but am always tweaking as I create new sites. I found a solution that some of you may find helpful so I posted a template.css on my site. I use this when I am creating a new site or cleaning up a site. Feel free to use it as is or in part. If you use it, I would appreciate hearing your ideas how to improve it. Think of it as the index to you site, much like the index in a book to guide you through it's various parts. This is a direct link. There is no link on the site. http://www.serversideincludes.net/templates/template.css Lorrie On 03/20/11 02:43, J.A. Florian wrote: > I have this site and css:http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ > > I wanted to take that css and change the triple border colors, the > head-banner, and the navigation, and then use it on part of my school-alumni > site. > I'm having trouble changing the colors correctly. > > First, I understand css better if I use the words outermost, middle, and > inner, to describe triple borders, going from the edge (outer) to center of > the screen (inner). Middle is the narrow color or image between the two. > (That's the way I describe it.) > > I picked these colors to replace the original colors: > outer #330000 (dark cherry) -- all over background > Middle: #0E0004 > Inner: #E2D2BA > I tried changing one color at a time, but I've gotten confused. The main > result is that I get the #30000 cherry color between the head-banner and the > content area, and again in the footer. I can only make the whole page be > the #E2D2BA color (but I want the triple borders). I'm not understanding > the exact places where the > outer #330000 (dark cherry) and the Middle: #0E0004 each belong. > > Second, when I uploaded the test files, the bottom RW banner is under the > page's banner. I don't understand why. > > I did re-validate the css and validated the test page. > > The URLs > http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/test/index > with only the "inner" color working > > http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/test/rd.css > > _includes > top.htm > nav-RD.htm > bottom.htm > 3dflags.htm (images not uploaded) > > Any help appreciated. > > Also, am I supposed to have a "full background" color to replace everything > if the triple borders fail?? > > Judy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email toFREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >