unsubscribe> From: freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 7, Issue 18 > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 01:00:27 -0700 > > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** > <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: The basic HTML Document (Barry Carlson) > 2. Other "boilerplate" html (Ralph Taylor) > 3. Re: Other "boilerplate" html (Barry Carlson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 21:40:43 +1300 > From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarls@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] The basic HTML Document > To: "Joe - Wakefield" <joe.wakefield.uk@gmail.com> > Cc: FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <0F4E87B073DB47E7A6D97856B305DED1@VirtualXP27465> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > On Saturday, February 25, 2012 7:29 PM (UTC+13) > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] The basic HTML Document > > > > Using HTML5 (which is what this code is) causes errors in the footer > > inserted by Rootsweb. > > cellpadding, cellspacing and border are creating these invalidations. > > Can this be rectified, please. > > > > Joe > --------------------------- > Joe, > > I've had some further thoughts about the xhtml FreePages footer, and > realized that the <table> mark-up used is rather dated. Current practice is > to use a standard <div> mark-up and CSS to display:table, > display:table-row and display:table-cell. > > A HTML5 version has resulted in much simpler mark-up and less CSS, but it > only works in the W3C compliant browsers, and IE7 and earlier get left out. > > http://countjustonce.com/test/rw-footer-w3c.html > > To fix the usual problems, IE only Conditional Comments are used to place a > table round the existing mark-up, insert a min-width substitute and finally > fix a margin issue endemic in IE7. This version now renders well using > Windows 7 in IE10pp2 through to IE5.01 > > http://countjustonce.com/test/rw-footer-all.html > > Barry > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:21:31 -0700 > From: "Ralph Taylor" <rt-sails@comcast.net> > Subject: [FreeHelp] Other "boilerplate" html > To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <A8EBAEDDB55748319838EBB157E1CD9C@Ralphs> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I'd like to thank Barry and Pat for this conversation. It's refreshing to > see a new standard that, for a change, makes life simpler. > > If I read Barry's "No requirement.." correctly, it means all that extra > stuff isn't needed in the HTML5 standard. We no longer need to choose > between "strict" and "transitional" nor tell the browser where to find the > definitions. > > About character sets, the "charset=" declaration: > You may recall that I had a problem a while ago with included files > displaying garbage characters. (Gosh, you wouldn't think plain text could be > so complicated.) > > After much head-scratching and asking here, it seemed to be caused by a > mismatch in character sets; the included files used a different character > set than the one specified for the including doc. The problem was resolved > only after changing the charset declaration in the doc head from > "iso-8859-1" to "utf-8" and saving the included files in utf-8 format. > > Thanks, > -rt_/) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:22:27 +1300 > From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarls@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Other "boilerplate" html > To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D737B4713F5B4266A6A4FF376AEA04CA@VirtualXP27465> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > > On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:21 AM (UTC+13)Ralph wrote: > > > > > > If I read Barry's "No requirement.." correctly, it means all that extra > > stuff isn't needed in the HTML5 standard. We no longer need to choose > > between "strict" and "transitional" nor tell the browser where to find the > > definitions. > > > ------------------------------ > Ralph, > > That is right. Put another way, it does no harm to include them, nor if you > don't. > > When you validate pages at:- > > http://validator.nu > > - you may find errors with some of your meta tags, e.g. > > <meta name="copyright" content="Sing A Song Of Sixpence Co. Inc"> > > There is most likely no problem with the same tags when validated as HTML4, > and the reason for them failing in the HTML5 validator is they haven't as > yet not all been included in the Standard, and "copyright" is just one of > those. > > My advice is to just ignore those sort of errors as they will eventually be > resolved. > > As I have mentioned earlier; where a page validated as XHTML1.0 Strict, the > same page when equipped with the HTML5 <!DOCTYPE html> will also be rendered > in Strict mode irrespective of some minor HTML5 validation errors. > > Barry > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 7, Issue 18 > *********************************************