Hi Barry and Pat, Yeah, there are still boatloads of crap code to sort out, even though I've removed many boatloads already. I'm moving into converting the heavy-code-crap tables now. I learned that MS adds ridiculous classes as numbers in every line, such as class="x126", but without any CSS to go with the class. What's a class # good for without stuff to define it?? Puzzling. I am learning a lot from having to go look stuff up. Besides the tables, I've got heavy image pages to do. Then, all the validating and fixing up links etc. So, still lots to do. I'll get done, one day. Thanks for helping on this table. I have 26 matching ones to do. Judy

Judy, There is so much MSO code on the page that "you can't see the wood for the trees". <table id="narrow"> <tr><th colspan="2">A <span>NAMES</span></th></tr> <tr><td>Abbott, William </td><td>373342</td></tr> <tr><td>Acheson, Charles L. V. </td><td>373337</td></tr> ... is what you are trying to do. I must admit I used some tricky Regular Expressions in Notepad++ after I had recovered the rendered data from the displayed page, to add the table mark-up round it again. Place the table where-ever you want it, and center it using #narrow {margin:0 auto}. The other styles you will find embedded in:- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/misc/test/florian/florian-names-20190104.html Barry On 4/01/2019 06:33, JFlorian wrote: > I'm re-writing old tables, but I'm still learning how to code tables on my > own. > > I know I cannot use 2 of the same ids on a page. So, how do I combine the > first table into the 2nd table? The table for "A NAMES" would be a col > span of 2 but how would it be written, and blend the 2nd table under that > col header? > > > <.....table id="narrow" style="width:100%"> > <...tr> > <...td width="100%"> > <p class="center">A NAMES</td> > </tr> > </table> > </center> > </div> > <div class="center"> > <center> > <....table id="narrow" style="width:100%"> > <col width="219" > style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:8009;width:164pt"> > <col width="64" style="width:48pt"> > <tr> > <td height="17" width="219" style="height:12.75pt;width:164pt">Abbott, > William</td> > <td align="left" width="64" style="width:48pt">373342</td> > </tr> > <tr> > etc etc etc > > The page looks like > A Surnames Abbott to Aten Surnames > (table 1 begins next) > > A NAMES > > (table 2 begins next) > Abbott, William 373342 > Acheson, Charles L. V. 373337 > Acheson, Hon. Ernest F. 373251 > etc etc etc > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I'm re-writing old tables, but I'm still learning how to code tables on my own. I know I cannot use 2 of the same ids on a page. So, how do I combine the first table into the 2nd table? The table for "A NAMES" would be a col span of 2 but how would it be written, and blend the 2nd table under that col header? <.....table id="narrow" style="width:100%"> <...tr> <...td width="100%"> <p class="center">A NAMES</td> </tr> </table> </center> </div> <div class="center"> <center> <....table id="narrow" style="width:100%"> <col width="219" style="mso-width-source:userset;mso-width-alt:8009;width:164pt"> <col width="64" style="width:48pt"> <tr> <td height="17" width="219" style="height:12.75pt;width:164pt">Abbott, William</td> <td align="left" width="64" style="width:48pt">373342</td> </tr> <tr> etc etc etc The page looks like A Surnames Abbott to Aten Surnames (table 1 begins next) A NAMES (table 2 begins next) Abbott, William 373342 Acheson, Charles L. V. 373337 Acheson, Hon. Ernest F. 373251 etc etc etc

Ooops, typo. mail site .... I meant main site

I can't remember, but if you have google search engine on your site, do you have to do something to update it when you add pages ==== No, there's no need to "educate" Google. Google bots automatically crawl your site at their set schedule. They crawl and follow links, so they find the new pages. However, I found it helps to change the mail site "index.html". Google bots will see new links there and follow the links from there to new directories / pages. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays everyone. Thanks everyone who's helped me fix my old pages. Judy

I can't remember, but if you have google search engine on your site, do you have to do something to update it when you add pages? ====================================== MidMdRoots.com https://sites.rootsweb.com/~midmdroots ======================================

Judy, The original page table was unrestrained, i.e. it wasn't in a div , and as a consequence any %  width set represented a percentage of the screen width. In my case the screen width is 1920px. That is why I put  #wrapper and #content divs around it, so the table's width became relative to the container it is in. As you can see by looking at the embedded CSS styles, the  table width is set a 100% within the #content div - which doesn't have a width, being constrained by the outer #wrapper div. The #content div has left & right margins of 30px [60px], and the maximum width the table can be is 1024 - 60px = 964px. You can change the inline style to anything and it will over-ride - firstly, any style embedded in the head section and secondly, any CSS stylesheet. The order of precedence is:- Inline, embedded, stylesheets. Generally, the easiest way of doing something different on a page to the current stylesheet is to change the inline style. Barry On 22/12/2018 22:33, JFlorian wrote: > Oh Barry, I'm sorry.  You don't need to do anything more on these old > pages.  The template and Ext CSS file you did are working fine.  I > copy out the content, paste it into a new page template, clean up the > old code, copy over the META info, then validate the page.  I've got a > good system going, until I run into problems. > > The only issue I have (with the next 26 pgs for similar tables) is the > table width question.   To be more specific, if the id you created > uses 100%, does that mean it is set in the CSS as 100% or can I change > it at will in the html code line? > > Judy

Oh Barry, I'm sorry. You don't need to do anything more on these old pages. The template and Ext CSS file you did are working fine. I copy out the content, paste it into a new page template, clean up the old code, copy over the META info, then validate the page. I've got a good system going, until I run into problems. The only issue I have (with the next 26 pgs for similar tables) is the table width question. To be more specific, if the id you created uses 100%, does that mean it is set in the CSS as 100% or can I change it at will in the html code line? Judy

Judy, The major problem with a_names.htm is, that the width of the page wasn't constrained and a number of items were arbitrarily positioned. There is now one table for the surname links - without borders. The page width  has been constrained using max-width/min-width. Let me know if you want anything else done with it  - have already straightened up some of the search engine code. Barry On 21/12/2018 07:32, JFlorian wrote: > Barry (or others), > > The table css you wrote, below, has been working fine for nearly any > data table.  That makes me happy and relieved.  I'd like to continue > with what you already wrote, but I need to know how to adapt it. > > How should I adapt it for tables less than 100% width?   Can I just > change the id line in the html, such as: >  <....table id="narrow" style="width:45%">  (instead of 100%) > > Example of old page that needs converted. Scroll down to see "A Names" > table. > https://sites.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/biographies/a_names.htm > > Also, if I have an existing table like this one, how do I add into the > html table code a "th" entry?   Lots of tables are 2 tables, one for > header and another table for data, so I'd like to get rid of that > split presentation. Note:  I'm still learning how to 'write' a table > by myself without relying solely on the web editor. > > Thanks > Judy > > CSS below > > used with  <....table id="narrow" style="width:100%"> > > /* ==================== > Table narrow 6 > ====================== */ > #narrow {all:initial;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0;width:100%} >   #narrow th, >   #narrow td {border:solid 1px #000;padding:0 2px} >   #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(1), >   #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(2), >   #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(4), >   #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(5), >   #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(6) {white-space:nowrap} >   #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(2) {text-align:right} >   #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(3) {text-align:center} > ----------------- >

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~hazlett/genealogy/   is the correct url?  See: https://rootsweb.blog/ Best,Kathie B On Thursday, December 20, 2018, 4:44:59 PM EST, Lon Mason <lonmason@gmail.com> wrote: Several months ago I reset my password and requested my site be restored. It was and I was working on it for awhile.  I have been away from genealogy for a couple of months.  When I tried to access my site today, it wasn’t available.  What has happened in the meantime?  My freepages site is “Lon Mason’s HomePage.  It was at freepages/-hazlett.  Any help is appreciated! Lon Mason

Still there http://sites.rootsweb.com/~hazlett/ Pat G -----Original Message----- From: Lon Mason [mailto:lonmason@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 4:44 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: [FreeHelp]Totally lost Several months ago I reset my password and requested my site be restored. It was and I was working on it for awhile. I have been away from genealogy for a couple of months. When I tried to access my site today, it wasn’t available. What has happened in the meantime? My freepages site is “Lon Mason’s HomePage. It was at freepages/-hazlett. Any help is appreciated! Lon Mason

Several months ago I reset my password and requested my site be restored. It was and I was working on it for awhile. I have been away from genealogy for a couple of months. When I tried to access my site today, it wasn’t available. What has happened in the meantime? My freepages site is “Lon Mason’s HomePage. It was at freepages/-hazlett. Any help is appreciated! Lon Mason

Barry (or others), The table css you wrote, below, has been working fine for nearly any data table. That makes me happy and relieved. I'd like to continue with what you already wrote, but I need to know how to adapt it. How should I adapt it for tables less than 100% width? Can I just change the id line in the html, such as: <....table id="narrow" style="width:45%"> (instead of 100%) Example of old page that needs converted. Scroll down to see "A Names" table. https://sites.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/biographies/a_names.htm Also, if I have an existing table like this one, how do I add into the html table code a "th" entry? Lots of tables are 2 tables, one for header and another table for data, so I'd like to get rid of that split presentation. Note: I'm still learning how to 'write' a table by myself without relying solely on the web editor. Thanks Judy CSS below used with <....table id="narrow" style="width:100%"> /* ==================== Table narrow 6 ====================== */ #narrow {all:initial;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:0;width:100%} #narrow th, #narrow td {border:solid 1px #000;padding:0 2px} #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(1), #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(2), #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(4), #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(5), #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(6) {white-space:nowrap} #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(2) {text-align:right} #narrow tr td:nth-of-type(3) {text-align:center} -----------------

You can not change the name of your site. Anne On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 8:20 AM Roger P. Hendrix <rphendrix1@gmail.com> wrote: > Greetings: > > > > Is it possible to change the name of an existing rootsweb web site for > example: > > > > http://sites.rootsweb.com/~name1 > > > > to > > > > http://sites.rootsweb.com/~name2 > > > > and still use the original userid/password to access the changed site name? > > > > Roger Hendrix > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Paul and everyone else, we are working an close. We expect to have a test site up and working in the first couple of weeks of the new year. Anne On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 4:32 PM Paul Sheats <paul.sheats@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi, > > Just wondering if anyone has heard when trees will be upload-able again on > WorldConnect? Is Anne and her team still working on freepages sites? > > Thanks. > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Rootsweb has only allowed 1 account per user, and the chosen account name has been permanent. So someone who picked ~mylovelyrichardsonianfamilyancestors may soon wish they had chosen a shorter and more distinct account name. Judy

Greetings: Is it possible to change the name of an existing rootsweb web site for example: http://sites.rootsweb.com/~name1 to http://sites.rootsweb.com/~name2 and still use the original userid/password to access the changed site name? Roger Hendrix

At 07:31 PM 12/14/2018, Paul Sheats wrote: >Just wondering if anyone has heard when trees will be upload-able >again on WorldConnect? Is Anne and her team still working on freepages sites? > >Thanks. >Paul Yes, they are still working on Freepages, and mailing lists, and message boards, and ..... They are also working on World Connect but no word yet on when the upload utility will be available. Pat Asher

I want to thank everyone who sent suggestions on how to clean up my mess in my Black Family website - Everything seems to be back to normal after I deleted all those files on the right that did not match the left side - thank you thank you thank you - DeAnne ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "deblack@juno.com" <deblack@juno.com> To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: need help Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 00:46:38 GMT It is the BLACK family I messed up -the Black family has Cole files on the right that SHOULD Not be there - My Cole family is fine - So - I want to get rid of the files I definitely know should not be there - Can I delete them ?thank you - DeAnne ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Ron Lankshear <ronlankshear@gmail.com> To: Freepages Web Sites <freepages-help@rootsweb.com>, deblack@juno.com Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: need help Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 07:22:05 +1100 The left side is your own computer and the right side is Rootsweb server. What you want is for both to have the folders and files exactly the same. If right side has the Cole files the way you want BUT also has 13 of them duplicated under wrong folder Exhibits then delete them The Filezilla Toggle comparison button can help as it will show files on right side as yellow from Ron Lankshear http://sites.rootsweb.com/~lankshear On 12/12/2018 5:12 am, deblack@juno.com wrote: > I believe the left side is fine - It is the right side that has the extra items that only belong in my Cole family and not the Black family - can't I just delete those items from the right side that I know do not belong there ? example: under exhibit folder - I see 13 Cole labeled exhibits on right side that do not belong - thank you -DeAnne > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/freepages-help@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/freepages-help@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi, Just wondering if anyone has heard when trees will be upload-able again on WorldConnect? Is Anne and her team still working on freepages sites? Thanks. Paul