First, double check and make sure that you new password meets the requirements. Password rules: Passwords must be between 10 and 32 characters long, and must contain at least one uppercase letter, one lower case letter, one number, and one of the following special characters: _ ! @ # ( ) Asterisk (*) and ampersand (&) are NOT accepted characters. Then make sure you are setting up your connection in FileZilla following these instructions http://sites.rootsweb.com/~gearyfamily/publishing-your-sites.html Pat G -----Original Message----- From: John Brown [mailto:jkbrown92@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 1:21 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: [FreeHelp]Connection times out I changed my password. Trying to update my free pages website using Filezilla. I followed all the directions I found on Rootsweb website, but all I get is failed to connect. Timed out. I tried both genealogy_html and public_html. Was Rootsweb perhaps down over the weekend or am I doing something wrong?
I changed my password. Trying to update my free pages website using Filezilla. I followed all the directions I found on Rootsweb website, but all I get is failed to connect. Timed out. I tried both genealogy_html and public_html. Was Rootsweb perhaps down over the weekend or am I doing something wrong?
Judy's recent request regarding centering text between floated images, resulted in comments about her use of outdated software. While looking at modern methods of doing the above, I explored the method of placing descriptive text over the images by using pseudo element styling. This looks something like the following:- .imglft:after { content:"Kermit the Frog"; display:inline-block; position:relative; top:95%; left:50%; transform:translate(-50%,-50%); color:#fff; font-weight:bold; } The above styling inherits the font-family and font-size from its parent element; in this case the #content div, and the element dimensions from the previously declared img class, i.e. .imglft. This all works as expected in Chrome, Firefox, Opera and other Chrome based browsers. You'll note that the MS Edge browser hasn't been mentioned; for the same reasons that plagued the IE stable of browsers, none were standards compliant. However, it appears that MS are now going to adopt the open source Chromium code which powers the Chrome based browsers, and hopefully at some stage during this year Edge will be re-engined and will henceforth conform to the current standards. In the short-term, the text can be placed on the image using absolute positioning; as can be seen in the following:- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/misc/test/florian/florian-floats-20190128.html The text over the images originates from the center #txt div, where the zero reference point is the left side of that div. Each of the 3 divs are 225px in width, so to position the text in the .imglft div, the styles are:- #txt span { display:inline-block; position:absolute; top:95%; transform:translate(-50%,-50%); font-weight:bold; color:#fff; } #txt span:nth-of-type(1) {left:-113px} /* from left side #txt div to center .imglft div */ #txt span:nth-of-type(2) {left: 338px} /* from left side #txt div to center .imgrgt div */ You can copy the images by taking a screenshot, but that will also copy the overlaid text. Right clicking or saving the images wont get you far! Barry
At 02:25 PM 1/25/2019, Patricia Geary wrote: >Judy, you have come a very long way since I first met you on this board. You >should be very proud of yourself Judy, Pat Geary is exactly right. You have come a long way and you deserve a lot of credit, not the least of which is for simple stick-to-it-nive-ness. You don't give up -- you keep trying. HTML (and CSS) is not always intuitive. It takes dedication to learn how to write in a new dialect (of English) and to master the correct syntax demanded by computer programs, i.e. browsers. But OH!, the satisfaction when that cantankerous web page finally displays the way you intended. Keep up the good work. And remember that many of us are learning new things every day too -- sometimes because of a question asked by you :) Pat A.
Judy, you have come a very long way since I first met you on this board. You should be very proud of yourself. Pat G -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:cageycat@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2019 2:05 PM To: Freepages Web Sites <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Fp _include containing image floats with text Billie wrote: If you can write your own code you should try Bluefish. -- Oh I wish, but not quite there yet. Right now, I'm using a skeleton template Barry made plus his CSS. I copy in my content, and from there I'm able to clean up most of the garbage code. But I still have problems and still have questions... But it's gotten much easier to fix things on my own. I learned so much about what not to do. I never dreamed I would strip pages! But now, I do that without worrying I'll break everything.. If I survive converting this last site, I will need last rites. <wink> Getting ready to start the photo folder.
Billie wrote: If you can write your own code you should try Bluefish. -- Oh I wish, but not quite there yet. Right now, I'm using a skeleton template Barry made plus his CSS. I copy in my content, and from there I'm able to clean up most of the garbage code. But I still have problems and still have questions... But it's gotten much easier to fix things on my own. I learned so much about what not to do. I never dreamed I would strip pages! But now, I do that without worrying I'll break everything.. If I survive converting this last site, I will need last rites. <wink> Getting ready to start the photo folder. Judy
Ralph, As I said, I was trying different things to find a solution-- any solution. Going to try suggestions tomorrow. Judy.
On 01/24/2019 09:29 PM, JFlorian wrote: > I was finally "eating solid" coding. If you can write your own code you should try Bluefish. https://www.bennewitz.com/bluefish/stable/binaries/win32/ The top one. -- "The dog is a gentleman. I hope to go to his heaven, not man's." Mark Twain
David wrote: You need to bite the bullet and get a more modern product, and most of these issues will go away. --- That is not true. I started teething using Fp in about 2006. I knew nothing of webmaking back then. It taught me WYSIWYG. For several years, it was my teething ring, then my sippy cup as I learned. Barry wrote a CSS file for my freepages, and I spent a couple years converting those sites. But in my sippy cup days, I had made messy code. So I started going to html view and began to understand some of the coding. Pat G, Pat A, Ralph, and others helped me when I had questions etc. I was finally "eating solid" coding. I could learn from my mistakes. I began using W3 Validator and really trying to understand why it threw errors. Fixing my errors taught me lessons. I also used Xenu to find broken links--- but learned about orphan files and countless ways I messed up links between pages! Learning. Learning! That left my county site that needed a do-over, which had gone through other webmasters, plus me when I still needed Fp to do everything---- even if it was against my interests (think things like h4 tags -- whoa!). Again, Barry put together a CSS and we've been tweaking it based on what issues I come across. But NOW, I am able to fix 100% of what W3 validator says is wrong... and on average, only 1 out of 10 pages has errors. 9 of 10 validate first try. Of course, without Barry's CSS and all the tweaks from Pat A, Pat G, Ralph, and many others on this list, I would not be this far ahead! Whereas before I used the WYSIWYG display 100% of the time, 12-13 yrs later I work in html view at least 80-90% of the time. I still lean on Fp for some things, like tables and lists (One day I won't need that crutch). I particularly like Fp _includes. I wish I used them more in the past, and am doing that now. Pat G has taught me much of what I've learned about Fp. Despite what others think about it, Fp has been a reliable editor.for me and it let me learn at my own pace. I want people who use Fp to know the program can help them learn coding, and slowly move into External CSS. But without help from people on these Lists, I'd still have pages full of MSO code or other outdated coding on every line. Stripping code out, by hand, is a sure Educator, and impresses upon memory, "Don't do that again!" Lots of things become "outdated". But when the electricity goes out, a manual can opener still works. When your printer fails, you can still write a letter if you have a typewriter. Old things, like Frontpage, still have value. . Judy
FP Includes as well as the ones with EW are DESIGN TIME includes. They are inserted into the page before the pages are copied to the server which is why if you make changes to the include page, you need to copy all the pages it is part of to the server. Pat G -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Taylor [mailto:rt-sails@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 3:37 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Fp _include containing image floats with text Re: "Your main problem is trying to use a program that has not been supported for over 12 years. You need to bite the bullet and get a more modern product, and most of these issues will go away." I think David may be onto something, especially regarding FP includes. These always required "extensions" on host servers to support them and support for such old technology is waning. An alternative would be SSI (server-side includes), whose support is built into Apache. Either way, the included content will inherit styling from the including file unless/until changed. But to the original problem: Judy has apparently defined a CSS class, "center" to center the image. Does it contain the property "text-align: center;" to center the text? And, to get a caption below the image, a line-break is (br) typically needed. Question: Isn't an image unusual for a heading tag, especially h2? If search engines use headings tags to index pages and rate them, it would seem to drop the rating. -rt_/)
Judy, I'm not going to get involved in the intricacies of FP Includes. What I do see in the code you have provided are 2 images - one floated left, the other floated right, with text used to describe them positioned between. Floats are effectively block elements, and therefore anything between those floated images needs to be in the same relative stream. That means the text needs to be in a float, or the images need to be floated to the left and right in the text. Here is a method of floating the text between the images and centering it horizontally and vertically. http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/misc/test/florian/florian-floats-20190124.html Barry On 24/01/2019 15:52, JFlorian wrote: > I often have trouble when using the image floats in a Frontpage 2000 > "_include". > > The main difficulty is trying to center any length of text heading beside > an image or between two images. > > Here is an example (the only thing in the include).
Re: "Your main problem is trying to use a program that has not been supported for over 12 years. You need to bite the bullet and get a more modern product, and most of these issues will go away." I think David may be onto something, especially regarding FP includes. These always required "extensions" on host servers to support them and support for such old technology is waning. An alternative would be SSI (server-side includes), whose support is built into Apache. Either way, the included content will inherit styling from the including file unless/until changed. But to the original problem: Judy has apparently defined a CSS class, "center" to center the image. Does it contain the property "text-align: center;" to center the text? And, to get a caption below the image, a line-break is (br) typically needed. Question: Isn't an image unusual for a heading tag, especially h2? If search engines use headings tags to index pages and rate them, it would seem to drop the rating. -rt_/)
Pat, I understand your point. However, that isn't a solution to what I'm asking, is it? Let's say this email is the include, with the css file attached. The inside of the include could look like this: image WITH FLOAT LEFT br br br br br br TEXT that the brs have dropped down enough to be centered beside the image. -- Without the brs, the text hugs the very top line next to an image float left. ----- I'll put the css link in an include and see if that makes any difference for this positioning problem.. Judy
I disagree. Fp is a perfectly fine editor.
Yes, FrontPage 2000 is old and yes it is out of date BUT like any other tool, if you know how to use it and what to avoid, it can still do the job. Pat G -----Original Message----- From: David C Abernathy [mailto:davea@schmeckabernathy.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 10:45 PM To: 'Freepages Web Sites' <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Fp _include containing image floats with text Your main problem is trying to use a program that has not been supported for over 12 years. You need to bite the bullet and get a more modern product, and most of these issues will go away.
Reworded so it makes more sende Judy, the easiest way to work with includes and the styles you have already created is to attach the style sheet to the include while working on it. FP will ignore the style sheet from the include page once it is inserted into the page you want it to be part of. It will then use the style sheet that is associated with the page it is part of. Make sense? Pat G -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:cageycat@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 9:53 PM To: LIST_freepages-help@rootsweb.com <freepages-help@rootsweb.com>; LIST: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com>; cageycat@gmail.com Subject: [FreeHelp]Fp _include containing image floats with text I often have trouble when using the image floats in a Frontpage 2000 "_include". The main difficulty is trying to center any length of text heading beside an image or between two images. Here is an example (the only thing in the include). <...h2><...img class="imglft" src="../../scrapbook-photos/wet-dry_photographers_1.jpg" ALT="old photographer 1" width="150" height="194"><c....enter>Photographs</center> <...img class="imgrgt" src="../../scrapbook-photos/wet-dry_photographers_2.jpg" ALT="old photographer 2" width="150" height="194"></h2> I used center because the word Photographs was up against photo 1. Now, in a different error, the word is 3/4ths away from photo 1, just before photo 2, but hovering 1 line above photo 2 (e.g. Photo 2 drops 1 line below so the 2 photos do not start on the same line). How can I get better control over the text on these? Other times with a left float I have to keep adding p tags or br tags to make the text drop to a middle for the image. So in the include, the photo is at the first line, but the text is maybe 10 lines down. When added to a page with external CSS, this extra fiddling has put the text in about the right place. Just seems it should be easier and more uniform to get it to work right. supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Judy, the easiest way to work with includes and the styles you have already created is to attach the style sheet to the include while working on it. FP will ignore the style sheet from the include page once it is inserted into the page you want it to be part of. It will then use the include that is associated with the page it is part of. Make sense? Pat G -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [mailto:cageycat@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 9:53 PM To: LIST_freepages-help@rootsweb.com <freepages-help@rootsweb.com>; LIST: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com>; cageycat@gmail.com Subject: [FreeHelp]Fp _include containing image floats with text I often have trouble when using the image floats in a Frontpage 2000 "_include". The main difficulty is trying to center any length of text heading beside an image or between two images. Here is an example (the only thing in the include). <...h2><...img class="imglft" src="../../scrapbook-photos/wet-dry_photographers_1.jpg" ALT="old photographer 1" width="150" height="194"><c....enter>Photographs</center> <...img class="imgrgt" src="../../scrapbook-photos/wet-dry_photographers_2.jpg" ALT="old photographer 2" width="150" height="194"></h2> I used center because the word Photographs was up against photo 1. Now, in a different error, the word is 3/4ths away from photo 1, just before photo 2, but hovering 1 line above photo 2 (e.g. Photo 2 drops 1 line below so the 2 photos do not start on the same line). How can I get better control over the text on these? Other times with a left float I have to keep adding p tags or br tags to make the text drop to a middle for the image. So in the include, the photo is at the first line, but the text is maybe 10 lines down. When added to a page with external CSS, this extra fiddling has put the text in about the right place. Just seems it should be easier and more uniform to get it to work right. supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
Your main problem is trying to use a program that has not been supported for over 12 years. You need to bite the bullet and get a more modern product, and most of these issues will go away. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2019 6:53 PM To: LIST_freepages-help@rootsweb.com <freepages-help@rootsweb.com>; LIST: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com>; cageycat@gmail.com Subject: [FreeHelp]Fp _include containing image floats with text I often have trouble when using the image floats in a Frontpage 2000 "_include". The main difficulty is trying to center any length of text heading beside an image or between two images. Here is an example (the only thing in the include). <...h2><...img class="imglft" src="../../scrapbook-photos/wet-dry_photographers_1.jpg" ALT="old photographer 1" width="150" height="194"><c....enter>Photographs</center> <...img class="imgrgt" src="../../scrapbook-photos/wet-dry_photographers_2.jpg" ALT="old photographer 2" width="150" height="194"></h2> I used center because the word Photographs was up against photo 1. Now, in a different error, the word is 3/4ths away from photo 1, just before photo 2, but hovering 1 line above photo 2 (e.g. Photo 2 drops 1 line below so the 2 photos do not start on the same line). How can I get better control over the text on these? Other times with a left float I have to keep adding p tags or br tags to make the text drop to a middle for the image. So in the include, the photo is at the first line, but the text is maybe 10 lines down. When added to a page with external CSS, this extra fiddling has put the text in about the right place. Just seems it should be easier and more uniform to get it to work right. Judy _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/freepages-help@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community
I often have trouble when using the image floats in a Frontpage 2000 "_include". The main difficulty is trying to center any length of text heading beside an image or between two images. Here is an example (the only thing in the include). <...h2><...img class="imglft" src="../../scrapbook-photos/wet-dry_photographers_1.jpg" ALT="old photographer 1" width="150" height="194"><c....enter>Photographs</center> <...img class="imgrgt" src="../../scrapbook-photos/wet-dry_photographers_2.jpg" ALT="old photographer 2" width="150" height="194"></h2> I used center because the word Photographs was up against photo 1. Now, in a different error, the word is 3/4ths away from photo 1, just before photo 2, but hovering 1 line above photo 2 (e.g. Photo 2 drops 1 line below so the 2 photos do not start on the same line). How can I get better control over the text on these? Other times with a left float I have to keep adding p tags or br tags to make the text drop to a middle for the image. So in the include, the photo is at the first line, but the text is maybe 10 lines down. When added to a page with external CSS, this extra fiddling has put the text in about the right place. Just seems it should be easier and more uniform to get it to work right. Judy
If your email has changed since you created the account, and you can no longer receive mail at the original email address; or the site is registered to a previous USGenWeb coordinator, write to annerootsweb@gmail.com for assistance. Pat G -----Original Message----- From: glweb@comcast.net [mailto:glweb@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 10:48 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: [FreeHelp]Changing Freepage email association I am attempting to access my page: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~weber/genealogy/index.htm, but I am unable to login. I did attempt to change the password, but it appears that the account is associated with an old email address, glw@csrlink.net. My new email is glweb@comcast.net. I cannot find a way to change the associated email so as to be able to obtain a new password. Gary Weber