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    1. [FreeHelp] External Ad links added to my site at Rootsweb
    2. Fraileyclan
    3. Was looking at my site today and there are external links for ads all over the place. did ancestry do this or what happened. One of the pages even had a video pop up on the page. when I view source I can't see the link and if I reload the page the extra link is back almost right away the site is here http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fraileyclan/index.html Jackie

    07/13/2012 02:19:44
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] Rootsweb insert on Freepages seems wrong
    2. Ron Lankshear
    3. Many Thanks Randy Congratulations! No Error Found. This document validates as CSS level 2.1 ! Yes Barry as far as I could see no impact on page rendering but w3c looks to nag Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/ On 2012-07-11 6:43 AM, Randy Winch wrote: > I did see the post and corrected the file. Thanks for finding this guys. > > Randy

    07/11/2012 03:46:28
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] Rootsweb insert on Freepages seems wrong
    2. Barry Carlson
    3. On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:04 AM (UTC+12) Ron wrote:- >I cannot get a No error W3C CSS Validation Service > on my web pages > and it appears to be the Rootsweb inserted file > > http://images.rootsweb.com/css/h/h.css > > Sorry! We found the following errors (1) > URI : http://images.rootsweb.com/css/h/h.css > 104 #fp_ftr Value Error : padding Parse > Error 0 > -------------------------------- Ron, The validator is right! The actual CSS is:- #fp_ftr { width : 100%; height : 40px; max-height:38px; text-align:left; padding 0; margin: 0; } ---- a semi-colon is missing. Hopefully Randy Winch sees this post, and can find time to make the correction. As far as I can tell, the missing "padding: 0;" declaration has no affect on the rendering outcome, and any pages hosted by the FreePages server will Validate HTML wise as an invalid CSS declaration is just discarded by the browser. Its the same as using CSS hacks or IE expressions used to fix rendering in older IE browsers. They only work for those browsers targeted and get discarded by the rest. Barry

    07/11/2012 02:06:15
    1. [FreeHelp] Rootsweb insert on Freepages seems wrong
    2. Ron Lankshear
    3. I cannot get a No error W3C CSS Validation Service on my web pages and it appears to be the Rootsweb inserted file http://images.rootsweb.com/css/h/h.css Sorry! We found the following errors (1) URI : http://images.rootsweb.com/css/h/h.css 104 #fp_ftr Value Error : padding Parse Error 0 -------------------------------- My own <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/styleron.css> has no error found Thank you - Is some one from Rootsweb server following this forum? -- Ron Lankshear -Sydney NSW (from London-Shepherds Bush/Chiswick) try my links http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lankshear/

    07/10/2012 05:04:52
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] Rootsweb insert on Freepages seems wrong
    2. Randy Winch
    3. I did see the post and corrected the file. Thanks for finding this guys. Randy On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 08:06 +1200, Barry Carlson wrote: > On Wednesday, July 11, 2012 1:04 AM (UTC+12) > Ron wrote:- > > >I cannot get a No error W3C CSS Validation Service > > on my web pages > > and it appears to be the Rootsweb inserted file > > > > http://images.rootsweb.com/css/h/h.css > > > > Sorry! We found the following errors (1) > > URI : http://images.rootsweb.com/css/h/h.css > > 104 #fp_ftr Value Error : padding Parse > > Error 0 > > > -------------------------------- > Ron, > > The validator is right! > > The actual CSS is:- > > #fp_ftr { > width : 100%; > height : 40px; > max-height:38px; > text-align:left; > padding 0; > margin: 0; > } > > ---- a semi-colon is missing. > > Hopefully Randy Winch sees this post, and can find time to make the > correction. > > As far as I can tell, the missing "padding: 0;" declaration has no affect on > the rendering outcome, and any pages hosted by the FreePages server will > Validate HTML wise as an invalid CSS declaration is just discarded by the > browser. > > Its the same as using CSS hacks or IE expressions used to fix rendering in > older IE browsers. They only work for those browsers targeted and get > discarded by the rest. > > Barry > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/10/2012 09:43:23
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] IE 7 Problem
    2. Barry Carlson
    3. On Monday, July 02, 2012 3:44 AM Roger wrote:- >I have been told that IE7 users cannot see the left-navigation panel of >this website: ------------------------ Roger, A further follow up. The problem you have with the left column menu not displaying in IE7 is to do with something endemic in older versions of that browser, i.e. the "hasLayout" issue. Its pointless going into it in any detail as the issue has slowly cleared itself with the passage of time, but reference to what I wrote about floating divs a couple of years ago can be found at:- http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/float/float.html and another little project at:- http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/float/!float-divs.html Barry

    07/04/2012 02:40:06
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] sub list numbering problem
    2. Pat Asher
    3. At 04:38 AM 7/1/2012, Rosemary Probert wrote: >Which appears as: > > 1. Frederick WIGGINS 1806-1831 > 2. Mary WIGGINS 1808-1877 > Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850 > Children: > i. Mary Ann HEDGES 1837- > ii. William HEDGES 1839-1877 > 4. Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832 > >How can I make Elizabeth number 3? Rosemary, Here's another option besides those you have already received. You can nest a Definition List (DL) inside an Ordered List (OL). Change the offset and/or numbering with Style. The code would look like this: <.ol> <.li>Frederick WIGGINS 1806-1831<./li> <.li>Mary WIGGINS 1808-1877<./li> <.dl> <.dd>Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850<./dd> <.dd>Children: <./dd> <.dd>i. Mary Ann HEDGES 1837- <./dd> <dd>ii. William HEDGES 1839-1877 <./dd> <./dl> <.li>Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832<./li> <./ol> Pat Asher

    07/03/2012 09:22:34
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] sub list numbering problem
    2. Ralph Taylor
    3. Alternate suggestion 1: <.ol> <.li>Frederick WIGGINS 1806-1831</li> <.li>Mary WIGGINS 1808-1877<br /> Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850 <.ul> <.li>Children: <.ol style="list-style-type: lower-roman"> <.li>Mary Ann HEDGES 1837-</li> <.li>William HEDGES 1839-1877</li> </ol> </li> </ul> </li> <.li>Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832</li> </ol> This yields an unnumbered list with one item, "Children" and, within it, a numbered list of two items. Alternate suggestion 2: <.ol> <.li>Frederick WIGGINS 1806-1831</li> <.li>Mary WIGGINS 1808-1877 Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850 <.h5>Children: </h5> <.ol style="list-style-type: lower-roman"> <.li>Mary Ann HEDGES 1837-</li> <.li>William HEDGES 1839-1877</li> </ol> </li> </ul> </li> <.li>Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832</li> </ol> The h5 (or other heading) tag forces new lines before and after the element. -rt_/)

    07/03/2012 06:29:50
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] IE 7 Problem
    2. Barry Carlson
    3. Roger, As alluded to, the problem in IE7 is how it handles floats, and I have found that the page renders OK with the following adjusted styles :- #container { padding: 10px; background: #FFE0B2 url('./images/gone_fishing.jpg') repeat; width: 95%; max-width:1080px; margin: 10px auto; } In the header after your script, add the following:- <!--[if lt ie 8 ]> <style> #outerWrapper #contentWrapper #content {margin: 0px; float:left; } </style> <![endif]--> The above has been tested in IE7 thru IE10, plus current versions of Chrome, Firefox and Safari. The current version of Opera has a problem with the floats, and I'll investigate further. Barry

    07/03/2012 06:26:56
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] IE 7 Problem
    2. Barry Carlson
    3. Roger, Cancel my comments re setting the leftColumn1 margin-left:0. When I tested it, I was looking at the wrong browser! Barry

    07/03/2012 04:55:49
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] IE 7 Problem
    2. Barry Carlson
    3. On Monday, July 02, 2012 3:44 AM Roger wrote:- >I have been told that IE7 users cannot see the left-navigation panel of >this > website: ------------------------ Roger, If you have IE9 installed, select F12 and select Browser Mode in the top menu. It will show the rendering in either IE9, IE8 or IE7 - by selection. You have another problem, and that is the layout breaks when the browser width is greater than 1080px, and I found the easist way to correct that was by adding to your #container styles - width:95%; max-width:1080px; In IE7, the disappearing #leftColumn1 is due to IE7 not being happy with organizing floats when given a percentage width. My suggestion is you add after your script in the head section the following:- <!--[if lt ie 8 ]> <style> #outerWrapper #contentWrapper #leftColumn1 {margin-left:0;} </style> <![endif]--> Barry

    07/03/2012 04:51:03
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] sub list numbering problem
    2. Ralph Taylor
    3. Rosemary asked about sub-list items interfering with main list numbering. Rosemary's code (leading dots inserted): <.ol> <.li>Frederick WIGGINS 1806-1831</li> <.li>Mary WIGGINS 1808-1877<br /> Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850</li> <.li style="list-style-type:none">Children: <.ol> <li>Mary Ann HEDGES 1837-</li> <li>William HEDGES 1839-1877</li> </ol> </li> <.li>Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832</li> </ol> <!-- end --> I believe the numbering problem comes from creating a separate list item to contain the sub-list; this additional item increments the list item counter. It would be better to put the sub-list into the prior item and the list-style type into the list tag. My recommendation: <.ol> <.li>1st item text </li> <.li>2nd item text <br /> Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850 <br /> Children: <!-- no item end tag, no new item --> <.ol style="list-style-type: none"> <li>Mary Ann HEDGES 1837-</li> <li>William HEDGES 1839-1877</li> </ol> <!-- now end the previous item --> </li> <.li>Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832</li> </ol> <!-- end --> Or, for the desired " Children: i. Mary Ann HEDGES 1837- ii. William HEDGES 1839-1877" Use: " Children: <.ol style="list-style-type: lower-roman"> <li>Mary Ann HEDGES 1837- </li> <li>William HEDGES 1839-1877 </li> </ol> </li>" BTW, you can use the CSS to create the numbering styles, as in: Ol.level_1 { list-style-type: inherit; } Ol.level_2 { list-style-type: lower-roman; } Ol.level_3 { list-style-type: lower-alpha; } Then, invoke in the HTML with: <.ol class="level_1"> <.ol class="level_2"> etc. Hope this helps. -rt_/) ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    07/02/2012 10:16:38
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] IE 7 Problem
    2. Beverly Watson
    3. Roger, I'm at work where we haven't upgraded from IE-7 and that's correct, the left navigation panel doesn't show. The blank space is there, but nothing else. Beverly > From: rphendrix@windsrtream.net > I have been told that IE7 users cannot see the left-navigation panel of this > website: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rogerhendrix/ > A search using Google did not really help; however, there was a hint that a > couple years back IE7 did not like some of the CSS used by the new versions > of IE. > I do not have a system that has IE7. > Does anyone have a system with IE7 loaded that can take a look at this web > site and make a suggestion as to what is wrong. > Thanks in advance. > Roger P. Hendrix > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/02/2012 08:37:49
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] IE 7 Problem
    2. Billie Walsh
    3. It looks just fine here.I believe that IE is updated to the latest and greatest iteration. On 07/01/2012 10:44 AM, Roger Hendrix wrote: > I have been told that IE7 users cannot see the left-navigation panel of this > website: > > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rogerhendrix/ > > > > A search using Google did not really help; however, there was a hint that a > couple years back IE7 did not like some of the CSS used by the new versions > of IE. > > > > I do not have a system that has IE7. > > > > Does anyone have a system with IE7 loaded that can take a look at this web > site and make a suggestion as to what is wrong. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Roger P. Hendrix > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government lest it come to dominate our lives and interests”. - Patrick Henry - _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

    07/02/2012 08:18:33
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] sub list numbering problem
    2. Rosemary Probert
    3. Hi, Thank you for that idea. I did try using an extra <br> but I wanted to see if there was a way of keeping "children" as a list item and then re-numbering. Tracy pointed out that numbering can be altered by using the value attribute and Barry suggested changing the DOCTYPE to html5 - and it works and validates :-) Thank you again, Rosemary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 02/07/2012 10:00, cgturcotte@gmail.com wrote: > The problem was caused by identifying the title of the sub-list as an item > of the parent list, then specifying it has no number. > I.e. Elizabeth WIGGINS was displayed at #4 on the list, because it was the > fourth li (list item) listed. > > Your code: > > <ol> > <li>Frederick WIGGINS 1806-1831</li> > <li>Mary WIGGINS 1808-1877<br /> > Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850</li> > <li style="list-style-type:none">Children: > <ol> > <li>Mary Ann HEDGES 1837-</li> > <li>William HEDGES 1839-1877</li> > </ol> > </li> > <li>Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832</li> > </ol> > > Amended code: > > <ol> > <li>Frederick WIGGINS 1806-1831</li> > <li>Mary WIGGINS 1808-1877<br> > Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850<br> > Children:</li> > <ol> > <li>Mary Ann HEDGES 1837-</li> > <li>William HEDGES 1839-1877</li> > </ol> > <li>Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832</li> > </ol> > > > -----Original Message----- > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2012 09:38:37 +0100 > From: Rosemary Probert <rosemary@rprobert.co.uk> > Subject: [FreeHelp] sub list numbering problem > To: Freepages Help <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4FF00C8D.9090401@rprobert.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi All, > > I have a list numbering problem. > > What I am trying to do is have an ordered list of children and within > that, another ordered list of their children. > And, to have a little heading that says "Children" > > I've used list-style-type:none to stop the number appearing in front of > the word "Children" - which works fine. > > But, it means that the next child is numbered incorrectly. > > The code is as follows: > > <ol> > <li>Frederick WIGGINS 1806-1831</li> > <li>Mary WIGGINS 1808-1877<br /> > Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850</li> > <li style="list-style-type:none">Children: > <ol> > <li>Mary Ann HEDGES 1837-</li> > <li>William HEDGES 1839-1877</li> > </ol> > </li> > <li>Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832</li> > </ol> > > Which appears as: > > 1. Frederick WIGGINS 1806-1831 > 2. Mary WIGGINS 1808-1877 > Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850 > Children: > i. Mary Ann HEDGES 1837- > ii. William HEDGES 1839-1877 > 4. Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832 > > How can I make Elizabeth number 3? > > The full page is here: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rprobert/hickman-families/wiggins-weller.htm > > and the CSS is here: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rprobert/family-history.css > > Any help would be appreciated. >

    07/02/2012 07:47:21
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] sub list numbering problem
    2. Barry Carlson
    3. On Monday, July 02, 2012 1:39 AM (UTC+12) Rosemary wrote:- > That works - thank you. > But I have had to change the DOCTYPE to transitional from XHTML 1.0 > Strict, --------------------- Rosemary, Try <!doctype html>. That will give you Strict rendering and will validate, e.g. <!--code> <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <meta charset="utf-8"> <title>Numbering Ordered Lists</title> </head> <body> <ol> <li>alfa <li value="10">bravo <li>charlie </ol> </body> </html> </code--> ... is valid HTML5. Barry

    07/02/2012 01:44:16
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 7, Issue 69
    2. The problem was caused by identifying the title of the sub-list as an item of the parent list, then specifying it has no number. I.e. Elizabeth WIGGINS was displayed at #4 on the list, because it was the fourth li (list item) listed. Your code: <ol> <li>Frederick WIGGINS 1806-1831</li> <li>Mary WIGGINS 1808-1877<br /> Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850</li> <li style="list-style-type:none">Children: <ol> <li>Mary Ann HEDGES 1837-</li> <li>William HEDGES 1839-1877</li> </ol> </li> <li>Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832</li> </ol> Amended code: <ol> <li>Frederick WIGGINS 1806-1831</li> <li>Mary WIGGINS 1808-1877<br> Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850<br> Children:</li> <ol> <li>Mary Ann HEDGES 1837-</li> <li>William HEDGES 1839-1877</li> </ol> <li>Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832</li> </ol> -----Original Message----- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2012 09:38:37 +0100 From: Rosemary Probert <rosemary@rprobert.co.uk> Subject: [FreeHelp] sub list numbering problem To: Freepages Help <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <4FF00C8D.9090401@rprobert.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi All, I have a list numbering problem. What I am trying to do is have an ordered list of children and within that, another ordered list of their children. And, to have a little heading that says "Children" I've used list-style-type:none to stop the number appearing in front of the word "Children" - which works fine. But, it means that the next child is numbered incorrectly. The code is as follows: <ol> <li>Frederick WIGGINS 1806-1831</li> <li>Mary WIGGINS 1808-1877<br /> Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850</li> <li style="list-style-type:none">Children: <ol> <li>Mary Ann HEDGES 1837-</li> <li>William HEDGES 1839-1877</li> </ol> </li> <li>Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832</li> </ol> Which appears as: 1. Frederick WIGGINS 1806-1831 2. Mary WIGGINS 1808-1877 Spouse: John HEDGES c1808-1850 Children: i. Mary Ann HEDGES 1837- ii. William HEDGES 1839-1877 4. Elizabeth WIGGINS 1812-1832 How can I make Elizabeth number 3? The full page is here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rprobert/hickman-families/wiggins-weller.htm and the CSS is here: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rprobert/family-history.css Any help would be appreciated. -- Rosemary Northumberland UK Email: rosemary@rprobert.co.uk Family History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rprobert/ Banburyshire Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    07/01/2012 11:00:34
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] sub list numbering problem
    2. Rosemary Probert
    3. Hi Barry, Thank you for that. I haven't tried moving any pages over to html5 yet, so this is the nudge I need :-) Rosemary Northumberland UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On 01/07/2012 20:44, Barry Carlson wrote: > On Monday, July 02, 2012 1:39 AM (UTC+12) > Rosemary wrote:- > >> That works - thank you. >> But I have had to change the DOCTYPE to transitional from XHTML 1.0 >> Strict, > --------------------- > Rosemary, > > Try <!doctype html>. That will give you Strict rendering and will > validate, e.g. > > <!--code> > > <!DOCTYPE html> > <html> > <head> > <meta charset="utf-8"> > <title>Numbering Ordered Lists</title> > </head> > <body> > <ol> > <li>alfa > <li value="10">bravo > <li>charlie > </ol> > </body> > </html> > > </code--> > > ... is valid HTML5. > > Barry >

    07/01/2012 03:58:59
    1. Re: [FreeHelp] sub list numbering problem
    2. Rosemary Probert
    3. That works - thank you. But I have had to change the DOCTYPE to transitional from XHTML 1.0 Strict, Rosemary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > /http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/lists.html/ > > /, it is not possible to continue list numbering automatically from a > previous list or to hide numbering of some list items. However, authors > can reset the number of a list item by setting its value attribute. > Numbering continues from the new value for subsequent list items. For > example:/ > > <ol> > <li value="30"> makes this list item number 30. > <li value="40"> makes this list item number 40. > <li> makes this list item number 41. > </ol> >

    07/01/2012 08:39:45
    1. [FreeHelp] IE 7 Problem
    2. Roger Hendrix
    3. I have been told that IE7 users cannot see the left-navigation panel of this website: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rogerhendrix/ A search using Google did not really help; however, there was a hint that a couple years back IE7 did not like some of the CSS used by the new versions of IE. I do not have a system that has IE7. Does anyone have a system with IE7 loaded that can take a look at this web site and make a suggestion as to what is wrong. Thanks in advance. Roger P. Hendrix

    07/01/2012 04:44:43