At 10:10 AM 8/8/2012, WA Barron RR wrote: >My free page is "up" >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wabarron/Index.htm >but not listed in the directory. Admittedly the page was written in >the easy standard way using Publisher; which I use on all my >websites ... and I even added an extra "Title" line to be double >sure the HTML was ok. Your home/entry page is named "Index.htm" -- with an upper case "I". Change it to lower case -- index.htm And remove the duplicate <.title> tag. That can only confuse the indexer <g> Pat Asher

My free page is "up" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wabarron/Index.htm but not listed in the directory. Admittedly the page was written in the easy standard way using Publisher; which I use on all my websites ... and I even added an extra "Title" line to be double sure the HTML was ok. Perhaps it is not listed in the correct directory? Is there a delay in updating the directory? William Barron Www.w1wab.com sent via iPad

I would like to disagree. Even with a good HTML editor that can create all the bells and whistles, it is still necessary to know HTML. I find this to be very true when I am using FrontPage 2003 or Nvu. Heidi Boos-Utley Email: hutley@greenhills.net URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rawls Family" <rawfam46@gmail.com> To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 7:02 Subject: [FreeHelp] Creating Web Pages > With the greatest respect to those here with much greater web skills than > myself I would point out for the benefit of 'newbies' that learning HTML > is NOT necessary to publish basic web pages. There are numerous programs > available that will allow you to build a page in the same manner as you > create a document in your word processor (in fact most wordprocessor > software provide a 'save as html' just for this purpose). It is NOT > necessary to actually create the page manually in HTML. Other software is > more elegant and allows for more 'bells and whistles' to be added but is > still a WYSIWYG type operation. > A basic understanding of HTML is helpful and how to insert links (be it > manually in HTML or via the particular software you use) is essential. As > a former dial up user I tend to keep my pages very simple and have had no > problems using this method, it may not be fancy but it provides the > information which is after all what we are all trying to do. > And yes, I know using 'Word' is not recommended due to it adding a bunch > of extra header stuff but it works for me! > >>From the scenic Klondike Hills, Grey County, Ontario, Canada. > NEW Web site > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawlsofdorset/index.htm > Visit my Blog at http://ruralcanadian.blogspot.com/ > Democracy requires dialog, please join us at > http://democracyunderfire.blogspot.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Most everyone uses one family tree software or other [ PAF, Family tree Maker, etc. ]. I don't think there is a modern program that won't export a complete family tree web site that just needs to be uploaded. They generally aren't very fancy, but ........ -- A veteran is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to ‘The United States of America’ for any amount, up to and including their life. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

With the greatest respect to those here with much greater web skills than myself I would point out for the benefit of 'newbies' that learning HTML is NOT necessary to publish basic web pages. There are numerous programs available that will allow you to build a page in the same manner as you create a document in your word processor (in fact most wordprocessor software provide a 'save as html' just for this purpose). It is NOT necessary to actually create the page manually in HTML. Other software is more elegant and allows for more 'bells and whistles' to be added but is still a WYSIWYG type operation. A basic understanding of HTML is helpful and how to insert links (be it manually in HTML or via the particular software you use) is essential. As a former dial up user I tend to keep my pages very simple and have had no problems using this method, it may not be fancy but it provides the information which is after all what we are all trying to do. And yes, I know using 'Word' is not recommended due to it adding a bunch of extra header stuff but it works for me! >From the scenic Klondike Hills, Grey County, Ontario, Canada. NEW Web site http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawlsofdorset/index.htm Visit my Blog at http://ruralcanadian.blogspot.com/ Democracy requires dialog, please join us at http://democracyunderfire.blogspot.com/

At 08:46 PM 8/7/2012, Pat Asher wrote: >I think Pat Geary, Barry, and everyone else who offers suggestions >here, would agree with me that it is important to remember that none >of us were born knowing how to write HTML. Like any "second" >language, it takes some study and practice. Everyone who gives >advice on this list (or anywhere else, for that matter) started out >feeling overwhelmed by the complexities of making and publishing >their first web page. We made our first attempts, were less than >satisfied, asked for advice, tried again, asked for more advice, >tried again, and again, and again. Boy that is really true. I can remember asking questions and getting answers and not understanding a word of what I was told. I'd go back and do some more studying and finally the light bulb would go off. Pat

At 04:49 PM 8/7/2012, Ralph Taylor wrote: >There's no getting around it; you'll need to do some work. And the first >part of the work is learning. Amen! I think Pat Geary, Barry, and everyone else who offers suggestions here, would agree with me that it is important to remember that none of us were born knowing how to write HTML. Like any "second" language, it takes some study and practice. Everyone who gives advice on this list (or anywhere else, for that matter) started out feeling overwhelmed by the complexities of making and publishing their first web page. We made our first attempts, were less than satisfied, asked for advice, tried again, asked for more advice, tried again, and again, and again. The wonderful thing about this list is that there is almost always someone who has discovered an answer to a particular problem, and is willing to share their knowledge with the rest of us. All you have to do is ask :) Pat Asher

Sorry all, My spelling got away from me. I meant to say that I studied all their courses and was wishing Dan "Good Luck". Heidi Boos-Utley Email: hutley@greenhills.net URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily

Dan, I would like to recommend http://webtechu.com/. They teach basic HTML for free. Very helpful instructors too. I studies all their offered courses and learned a lot. Good look, Heidi Boos-Utley Email: hutley@greenhills.net URL:: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily

At 04:49 PM 8/7/2012, Paul A. Roth wrote: >Pat Asher: Where do I find the html code for the World Connect box >that's on your site? Instructions for two different WC search boxes are linked from http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pasher/genesite.htm Instructions for a basic WC search box are at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/rootsweb/links/trees.html Instructions for the search box on my Ambrose Genealogy page are at http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/wclinks2.html Pat Asher

Dan asked ".. how do we get to the wonderful website stage that you've achieved. I am still very confused as to how to put things on a rootsweb page." Dan, your confusion is normal. Making & publishing Web pages sometimes seems like an alternate universe with too many dimensions. It's best to pick out one thing at a time to focus on. The more specific your question, the better the answers will be. Both Pats are too modest to say so, but they've done wonderful jobs of creating their websites and providing helpful materials for newbies to Web design. Also, they've been generous in allowing their materials and techniques to be freely borrowed. The most essential topic to learn is HTML, the language of the World Wide Web. HTML files are plain text, with special tags to format text. Tags are enclosed in angle brackets, "<" & ">". For example, "<.p>" begins a paragraph and "./p>" ends it. (A convention on this list is to add leading dots to the tags so they don't take effect.) There are many online resources for learning HTML (including www.w3c.org) but I think Asher's and Geary's are best to start with. The next important topic is CSS, for "cascading style sheets". CSS adds special styling to the HTML defaults. It's a way, for example, to use more color & font sizes in the pages, add sidebars, etc. Again, there are online resources; begin with the Pats'. You can produce a basic Web page with only HTML. If you want the impressive effects that Pat, Pat & Barry have achieved, you'll need CSS. I'd recommend either (1) Creating the pages on your own computer, then uploading it to your Freepages site OR (2) Using Freepages' online page editor -- be sure to save before exiting. If the latter, save the page later to your computer. There's no getting around it; you'll need to do some work. And the first part of the work is learning. -rt_/)

Pat Asher: Where do I find the html code for the World Connect box that's on your site? Thanks, Paul

On Tuesday, August 07, 2012 5:48 AM (UTC+12) Dan Rooney wrote:- > I am still very confused as to how to put things on a rootsweb page. ----------------------------- Dan, That comment has left me a "little" confused. Are you interested in the design and layout styling for a webpage, or the basic Hyper-Text Mark-up Language (HTML) required to construct such a page? If you let the list know the area you are interested in, then the appropriate pointers or help will be forthcoming from this list. Barry

At 11:06 AM 8/7/2012, Nan wrote: >I was also able to log in with this. When you get your new password, don't >try to type it in -- copy and paste from the email. And make sure you do not pick up any extra spaces along the way. pat

And now that you have broadcast your username and password to a very large list, you had better contact the help desk and change it. http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/fileman/file_manager.cgi Using the information you provided, I was able to login with no problem at all. See the free ebook under my signature. pat Pat Geary Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html

I was also able to log in with this. When you get your new password, don't try to type it in -- copy and paste from the email. Nan On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Pat Geary <pat@the-gearys.com> wrote: > And now that you have broadcast your username and password to a very > large list, you had better contact the help desk and change it. > > http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/fileman/file_manager.cgi > > Using the information you provided, I was able to login with no problem at > all. > > See the free ebook under my signature. > > pat > > Pat Geary > Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I can not login with this username and password. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <fp-replies@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 8:16 AM Subject: Your FreePages are Ready! To: garysterne@gmail.com Cc: accounts@rootsweb.com Your FreePages Web space at RootsWeb is ready! To access your account, you need to know these things: F T P H o s t n a m e: users.freepages.rootsweb.com U s e r I D: garysterne P a s s w o r d: iLAokehs PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE LETTER BEFORE YOU WRITE TO US! (Note that RootsWeb is case sensitive and the password must be typed *exactly* as it appears here: cutting and pasting is a good idea ... ) When you look in your directory, you'll see subdirectories called "genealogy_html", "family_html", "history_html" and so on. Upload your HTML and GIF files into whichever subdirectory relates to your pages. EXAMPLE: A file uploaded to the "genealogy_html" subdirectory will immediately be visible to the whole Web at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~garysterne or A file uploaded to the "family_html" directory will immediately be visible to the whole Web at: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~garysterne PLEASE NOTE: Because of our commitment to providing improvements to genealogy services, many of the community directories, such as music, arts, games, are no longer available. I have also subscribed you to the Freepages-Help-D@rootsweb.com mailing list, where all of the FreePages users at RootsWeb swap ideas. For unsubscribe instructions, please see: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/help.html If you want to place your GEDCOM file on the internet, please do not upload these to your Freepages account. They will work so much better if you will upload them to WorldConnect - http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ - as there your visitors will able to view your family and download only the portion they would like to use. GEDCOM files uploaded as a .GED file may be deleted by staff at any time. Do NOT upload MP3, zip, avi, mpg, rm, ram, exe or other similar type files. You may not use your account to upload files for downloading by other users. Your FreePages account may not be used for file storage. Violation of this rule will cause your account to be deleted without warning. The search Engine will index your new pages and enter them in the FreePages Directory. To read more about this go to: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/index.html#directory The Help pages are here: http://freepages.rootsweb.com/help.html Enjoy! Web Space Accounts Administrator RootsWeb.com http://www.rootsweb.com --

At 01:48 PM 8/6/2012, Dan Rooney wrote: >Pat, I appreciate the answer to Jemma's question, and I love your >family website. I have my gedcom on a WorldConnect project, but how >do we get to the wonderful website stage that you've achieved. I am >still very confused as to how to put things on a rootsweb page. >thanks, >Dan Rooney Dan, You can use your Freepages space as an adjunct to a WorldConnect data base in a variety of ways. Including Pat Geary's site, here are some other ideas. <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Epasher/>Ambrose Genealogy by Pat Asher <http://www.family-genealogy-online.com/Geary/>Family Genealogy - Geary or Gary Family Genealogy - by Pat Geary <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ehedley/>Hedley Genealogy Page by David Hedley <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ego2will/>The Williamsons by Anita Palmer If you are asking how to create similar web pages -- that goes back to the basics of creating any web page. Both Pat Geary and I have help pages for that: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pasher/ http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ Ask here on the list about anything you don't understand. Pat Asher (the other Pat)

At 01:48 PM 8/6/2012, Dan Rooney wrote: >Pat, I appreciate the answer to Jemma's question, and I love your >family website. I have my gedcom on a WorldConnect project, but how >do we get to the wonderful website stage that you've achieved. I am >still very confused as to how to put things on a rootsweb page. ============ Thanks Dan for your nice comments. How do you get there? Lots and lots of learning and practice. No kidding, if you want to get into website building then you need to learn the basics of writing code and using css. It is only then that you can really understand how to do what you want with your site and fix it when things go wrong. There are plenty of resources out there. Believe me my first efforts look nothing like the site is today. pat Pat Geary Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html

Pat, I appreciate the answer to Jemma's question, and I love your family website. I have my gedcom on a WorldConnect project, but how do we get to the wonderful website stage that you've achieved. I am still very confused as to how to put things on a rootsweb page. thanks, Dan Rooney Message: 2 Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 12:46:29 -0400 From: Pat Geary <pat@the-gearys.com> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] How do I put my family history on my freepages     site To: jemma gillon <jemmagillon@gmail.com>,     Freepages-Help-D@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <201208041646.q74GkY6T020105@mail.rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:30 PM 8/4/2012, jemma gillon wrote: >Hi, > >I have made a freepages site, but I can not get all the information that I >have on it. I have tried uploading my gedcom file to it, but the Web won't >read it. No if you are going to publish your GEDCOM file, you need to put it on the WorldConnect project. Much easier to do and all the formatting is taken care of for you. You can then link that part of your site to whatever you choose to use your FreePages space for. Example: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=gearyfamily&id=I76 which links back to the narrative part of our site http://www.family-genealogy-online.com/Geary/ More on WOrldConnect http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ pat Pat Geary Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html