On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:34 AM (UTC+12) Jack Murphy wrote:- > My webpage has been appearing normally for a decade. Recently I > discovered > two merged paragraphs. Text entitled, "Linked Index," was shoved up into > the paragraph, "An Acknowledgement." I went to Rootsweb editor and used > WYSIWYG to lower Linked Index to a proper position below, where it should > be. Regardless of many attempts, the problem continued to show in my > browser, Chrome. I reported this and Gerhardt told me the problem was > solved. He could see it corrected in Firefox. When I viewed it in > Firefox > I agreed with him. I thought the problem might be that the cache on my > machine was stuck in the old position. I went through the refresh > procedure, but it has not changed. Any suggestions? Jack Murphy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~emeraldidyll/ > ------------------------- Jack, I don't know what version of Chrome you are using, but the correct way of clearing your browser cache is to click on the "spanner" (top right), select "Tools", then click on "Clear browsing data". Your browser cache will then be cleared - may take a little while if you haven't done this before. Following this procedure, refresh your page and an up-to-date version of your page will downloaded. Your first two paragraphs render slightly differently in Chrome, Firefox, Opera and IE back to IE6, but the "Linked Index" doesn't move up. Barry

I use the freepages file manager to upload my webpages.  I do not use a FTP program as I find it easier to use the file manager. I only have one question to ask.  Is there a way to delete graphic files if you no longer use them?   If so, how do you do it? Thanks for all help. Esther

Additional fact re this problem. In addition to finding the problem cleared up using Firefox, I just downloaded Safari. When I went to my webpage, it also showed my webpage showing perfectly.* Two browsers out of three means Chrome is my problem*. I did another refresh going back 4 weeks and restarted, too. Is going back to to "all time" or whatever it said for a total clearance the only way? *Notice. *I just did that, too. I refreshed to"the beginning of time" No change. Chrome is broken. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Jack Murphy <jackmurphy27@gmail.com> wrote: > My webpage has been appearing normally for a decade. Recently I > discovered two merged paragraphs. Text entitled, "Linked Index," was > shoved up into the paragraph, "An Acknowledgement." I went to Rootsweb > editor and used WYSIWYG to lower Linked Index to a proper position below, > where it should be. Regardless of many attempts, the problem continued to > show in my browser, Chrome. I reported this and Gerhardt told me the > problem was solved. He could see it corrected in Firefox. When I viewed > it in Firefox I agreed with him. I thought the problem might be that the > cache on my machine was stuck in the old position. I went through the > refresh procedure, but it has not changed. Any suggestions? Jack Murphy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~emeraldidyll/ > > > -- > Be well and keep smiling. > > Jack Murphy > jackmurphy27@gmail.com > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~emeraldidyll/ [12,605 > views] A personal web page dealing with Family, Genealogy, Irish History, > Inspiration and religious related Humor. > > https://sites.google.com/site/wildewoodestatesblca/ New webpage for the > colony where I live in Maine. > > Selected personal photos at: http://community.webshots.com/user/jackmurphy > [10,154 views,] 108 downloads, top 5% of 187,701 members. > > A Web Page containing personal art work, and cartoons I did in college. > https://www.photoshop.com/user/jackmurphy27 > -- Be well and keep smiling. Jack Murphy jackmurphy27@gmail.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~emeraldidyll/ [12,605 views] A personal web page dealing with Family, Genealogy, Irish History, Inspiration and religious related Humor. https://sites.google.com/site/wildewoodestatesblca/ New webpage for the colony where I live in Maine. Selected personal photos at: http://community.webshots.com/user/jackmurphy [10,154 views,] 108 downloads, top 5% of 187,701 members. A Web Page containing personal art work, and cartoons I did in college. https://www.photoshop.com/user/jackmurphy27

My suggestion was more along the lines of setting up a file structure for the site. As an example this is the file structure for my genealogy_html directory. genealogy_html census Bennett Dean Hadley Holcomb Richardson etc. data pics index maps misc pictures records Horsley Walsh etc. Under census are all the major lines of my tree. Each sub contains census images and extracts for that family. I use the images in the Notes for individuals. The data directory contains all the family tree data. The pics sub contains images used in the data pages. The index directory contains the person index for the entire database. Maps is sort of self explanatory. Misc is for whatever doesn't exactly slot in some place else. There are several kinds of pages that are in the base Genealogy directory and pictures contains the images used on thise pages. Records also has sub directories for family names that contain records that are needed. Every sub-directory that has pages that use graphics should have it's own picture sub-directory. Every sub-directory should have a file named "index.html", "index.htm" or "home.htm" [ or html ] even if it just points back to the main page of the site. Think of your Rootsweb account as a file cabinet. If you just dump everything in the drawer how easy is it going to be when you need to find something. Geneaogy_html is the drawer. Everything that goes into the drawer needs to be in it's own file folder. File folders can have file folders inside them also. When you need something from that drawer you can go straight to the file folder you need and find what your looking for instead of dumping the drawer on the floor and digging through the mess. I used an old DOS program called GED2HTML to create the base web site many years ago. Very simple basic HTML. Here's a link to my site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~billie0w/index.html Below is a fair example of a data page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~billie0w/data/dat26.htm#2 As you can see, there's nothing fancy about it. On 08/13/2012 12:25 PM, Bill Thompson wrote: > There's no "one size fits all" approach. I can only report on what I > experienced in creating my first web site last year. As a "newbie", who > had looked at some HTML textbooks, but had zero experience with web > design, Judy's and Billie's advise wasn't an option for me. I tired it, > but was too ignorant to make a good design. -- A veteran is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to ‘The United States of America’ for any amount, up to and including their life. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

There's no "one size fits all" approach. I can only report on what I experienced in creating my first web site last year. As a "newbie", who had looked at some HTML textbooks, but had zero experience with web design, Judy's and Billie's advise wasn't an option for me. I tired it, but was too ignorant to make a good design. After lots of reading, I took the advise offered by some, that it would be an iterative process: 1) make an initial design (knowing it was only a first cut); 2) learn how to implement it; 3) get it up and running; 4) repeat as needed. For me, "just do it" was a necessary way to get off my butt and learn by doing. I knew I would make a lot of mistakes --- and did. But I had to learn by dong. I'm still on my 2nd overall design, but have gone through several iterations with sections of my web site. I don't know what will work best for Judy. But I procrastinated for ten years trying to choose among several possible designs --- none of which I had a clue how to implement. I still have a lot to learn, but I bit off a piece as a time, and learn as I go. For me, getting something up quickly, knowing that I would have to do it over (perhaps several times) was key. And as I learn, it becomes easier to anticipate likely future changes, and lessen their impact. Best wishes Judy. For me it's been a lot of work, but very rewarding. On 8/13/2012 3:00 AM, freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 17:05:43 -0500 > From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] FIRST STEP is the hardest > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <502828B7.8070208@swbell.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Really good suggestions Judy. I just dumped all my information online > willie-nillie at first. Later I had to go back and restructure the site > of about three hundred pages so I could find something. It was a major > pain to restructure. It would have been best if I had thought it out a > bit first. A good directory structure to your site can be a huge benefit. > > On 08/11/2012 07:52 AM, J.A. Florian wrote: >> Cara, >> >> My best suggestion is to take notebook paper, or use Word, and write some >> short outline of what you want to accomplish. In your mind, picture your >> website as a printed book, with chapters and pages. Will your book be one >> long 'story'? Or will it be many mini stories, such as a book of essays? >> or mostly pictures? >> >> As you know, websites must link each "page" to another "page". So on paper >> or in Word, decide how you will "link" each of your "book's pages" to each >> other. For example, if you intend to write "The story of my Great Aunt >> Martha", you may only need a couple pages... or 10 pages with pictures. If >> you're going to write a "how-to" kind of book, each of your "chapters" >> might only be one page long. >> >> When you decide which HTML Editor you'll use, you can begin to think about >> how you'll design your overall "book". Will the pages be white? green? >> blue? or have some flowered background? It is often much easier to find a >> "template" for these design decisions, and then just re-use the template >> over and over for each "page". Whether you make your own or use one >> someone else designed, it's still good to make one file as your Template. >> "Backgrounds By Marie" (through Google) has some nice background images, >> for single, double, or triple backgrounds. You can also google "free >> backgrounds" to find other websites. People on the list can help you >> identify the color code to match the image background you picked, so your >> pages will load faster without using an image. Look at Pat's website and >> the other websites people gave to get ideas of the templates that are >> available for beginners. >> >> When I first started, my goal was to get information up fast.... later, I >> had to work on the the "design". I wanted to do it that way--- but later, >> I needed a LOT of help from people on this list for a web design, plus it >> meant I had to re-do my whole website (not any fun!). So I really >> encourage you to take a lot of time in the beginning to make a nice >> template---or use a free one--- something you'll be happy to look at for a >> long time. "Sketch" out your ideas, look over the material you want to >> include, plan your site, and build your template... then start writing your >> pages. >> >> Judy >

My webpage has been appearing normally for a decade. Recently I discovered two merged paragraphs. Text entitled, "Linked Index," was shoved up into the paragraph, "An Acknowledgement." I went to Rootsweb editor and used WYSIWYG to lower Linked Index to a proper position below, where it should be. Regardless of many attempts, the problem continued to show in my browser, Chrome. I reported this and Gerhardt told me the problem was solved. He could see it corrected in Firefox. When I viewed it in Firefox I agreed with him. I thought the problem might be that the cache on my machine was stuck in the old position. I went through the refresh procedure, but it has not changed. Any suggestions? Jack Murphy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~emeraldidyll/ -- Be well and keep smiling. Jack Murphy jackmurphy27@gmail.com http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~emeraldidyll/ [12,605 views] A personal web page dealing with Family, Genealogy, Irish History, Inspiration and religious related Humor. https://sites.google.com/site/wildewoodestatesblca/ New webpage for the colony where I live in Maine. Selected personal photos at: http://community.webshots.com/user/jackmurphy [10,154 views,] 108 downloads, top 5% of 187,701 members. A Web Page containing personal art work, and cartoons I did in college. https://www.photoshop.com/user/jackmurphy27

At 03:31 PM 8/10/2012, Don wrote: >I have done everything I can find as suggestions on the rootsweb.com web >site and cannot get access to my freepages account. It has been years since >I updated and now have new and information to post. What suggestions do >you have. Don, Get your account information (userID and password) from PasswordCentral, http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.ancestry.com. Remember your password is case sensitive. pasSwOrd is not the same as password or PASSWORD. Login to File Manager at http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/fileman/ If you are using a stand alone FTP client, enter the hostname: users.freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com remote directory: genealogy_html (or whichever community you want your files to appear). Pat Asher

I would list everyone individually, but fear I would forget someone.  So thank you all for your   answers to my question on starting my journey into setting up my pages.  I've taken a peek at all   the sites everyone suggestion and can see it just may not be as bad as I initially thought it would   could be.     Your suggestions and site urls are greatly appreciated.  Thanks so much   Cara

Really good suggestions Judy. I just dumped all my information online willie-nillie at first. Later I had to go back and restructure the site of about three hundred pages so I could find something. It was a major pain to restructure. It would have been best if I had thought it out a bit first. A good directory structure to your site can be a huge benefit. On 08/11/2012 07:52 AM, J.A. Florian wrote: > Cara, > > My best suggestion is to take notebook paper, or use Word, and write some > short outline of what you want to accomplish. In your mind, picture your > website as a printed book, with chapters and pages. Will your book be one > long 'story'? Or will it be many mini stories, such as a book of essays? > or mostly pictures? > > As you know, websites must link each "page" to another "page". So on paper > or in Word, decide how you will "link" each of your "book's pages" to each > other. For example, if you intend to write "The story of my Great Aunt > Martha", you may only need a couple pages... or 10 pages with pictures. If > you're going to write a "how-to" kind of book, each of your "chapters" > might only be one page long. > > When you decide which HTML Editor you'll use, you can begin to think about > how you'll design your overall "book". Will the pages be white? green? > blue? or have some flowered background? It is often much easier to find a > "template" for these design decisions, and then just re-use the template > over and over for each "page". Whether you make your own or use one > someone else designed, it's still good to make one file as your Template. > "Backgrounds By Marie" (through Google) has some nice background images, > for single, double, or triple backgrounds. You can also google "free > backgrounds" to find other websites. People on the list can help you > identify the color code to match the image background you picked, so your > pages will load faster without using an image. Look at Pat's website and > the other websites people gave to get ideas of the templates that are > available for beginners. > > When I first started, my goal was to get information up fast.... later, I > had to work on the the "design". I wanted to do it that way--- but later, > I needed a LOT of help from people on this list for a web design, plus it > meant I had to re-do my whole website (not any fun!). So I really > encourage you to take a lot of time in the beginning to make a nice > template---or use a free one--- something you'll be happy to look at for a > long time. "Sketch" out your ideas, look over the material you want to > include, plan your site, and build your template... then start writing your > pages. > > Judy -- A veteran is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to ‘The United States of America’ for any amount, up to and including their life. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

Cara, My best suggestion is to take notebook paper, or use Word, and write some short outline of what you want to accomplish. In your mind, picture your website as a printed book, with chapters and pages. Will your book be one long 'story'? Or will it be many mini stories, such as a book of essays? or mostly pictures? As you know, websites must link each "page" to another "page". So on paper or in Word, decide how you will "link" each of your "book's pages" to each other. For example, if you intend to write "The story of my Great Aunt Martha", you may only need a couple pages... or 10 pages with pictures. If you're going to write a "how-to" kind of book, each of your "chapters" might only be one page long. When you decide which HTML Editor you'll use, you can begin to think about how you'll design your overall "book". Will the pages be white? green? blue? or have some flowered background? It is often much easier to find a "template" for these design decisions, and then just re-use the template over and over for each "page". Whether you make your own or use one someone else designed, it's still good to make one file as your Template. "Backgrounds By Marie" (through Google) has some nice background images, for single, double, or triple backgrounds. You can also google "free backgrounds" to find other websites. People on the list can help you identify the color code to match the image background you picked, so your pages will load faster without using an image. Look at Pat's website and the other websites people gave to get ideas of the templates that are available for beginners. When I first started, my goal was to get information up fast.... later, I had to work on the the "design". I wanted to do it that way--- but later, I needed a LOT of help from people on this list for a web design, plus it meant I had to re-do my whole website (not any fun!). So I really encourage you to take a lot of time in the beginning to make a nice template---or use a free one--- something you'll be happy to look at for a long time. "Sketch" out your ideas, look over the material you want to include, plan your site, and build your template... then start writing your pages. Judy On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Cassie Richards <geno4search@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > I have not started my FREEPAGES yet, but have read everyones suggestions > and ideas. I must say I have learned a great deal. Here comes the > BUT.....I am ever so visual and am wondering if there is an on line > learning tool that shows step by step...and boy I really need step by step, > preferably with pictures too. If someone shows me or I see it in print, > I'm good to go. So if there are websites out there I'd appreciate your > information. thanks so much > > Cara

I have done everything I can find as suggestions on the rootsweb.com web site and cannot get access to my freepages account. It has been years since I updated and now have new and information to post. What suggestions do you have. Don McMurray 4364 Cody Brook Drive Liberty Twsp., OH 45011 dmcmurray@fuse.net 513.378.9459

Here's one source of tutorial for basic HTML: http://www.w3schools.com/html/default.asp -- A veteran is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to ‘The United States of America’ for any amount, up to and including their life. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

At 01:03 PM 8/9/2012, Cassie Richards wrote: > >I have not started my FREEPAGES yet, but have read everyones >suggestions and ideas. I must say I have learned a great >deal. Here comes the BUT.....I am ever so visual and am wondering >if there is an on line learning tool that shows step by step...and >boy I really need step by step, preferably with pictures too. If >someone shows me or I see it in print, I'm good to go. So if there >are websites out there I'd appreciate your information. thanks so much > Cara, while a web page is a visual experience for the visitor, what creates that visual experience is nothing more than plain text, which is often created in a basic text editor such as Notepad. WYSIWYG editors simply write the underlying text and syntax for you. The basic web page is nothing more than a few basic HTML tags created in a text editor, and saved with a file extension of .htm or .html <.html> <.head> <.title>My Page<//title> <./head> <.body> The terrific text and gorgeous graphics that appear on your page. (Type everything you want to appear on your page here.) <./body> <./html> NOTE, the leading dots are added to the tags to keep the HTML from executing on this list. So rather than visuals, most web page tutorials are simply going to give you examples of the text required to create a specific effect on your web page. Now, once you have a basic page, you will probably want to add some links, perhaps a background, and an image or two, etc. Again, those are added using directives written in plain text. So, you will need to identify the visuals you want to duplicate, so someone on the list can direct you to the TEXT language that will produce that visual on your web page. My tutorials on the basics of creating a web page are here: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~pasher/ Pat Geary also has help pages on the basics: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/getting-started-with-freepages.html and takes things a step farther and provides some templates for the design of your pages: http://www.genealogy-web-creations.com/ Pat Asher

There are many methods of getting information into a webpage, and the simplest is by creating your page in MS Office or Open Office and saving as a HTML document. There are limitations associated with this method, invovling loss of potential functionality that is offered by direct generation of the basic HTML and CSS (Cascading Style Sheets). As a means of placing information on the web, the above conversion to HTML is simple, but the complexity involved in the conversion process produces over twenty times the code needed for the same information to be created when using HTML directly. The choice is yours, and there will be those who wish to stylize their website by creating very professional looking pages, while others will be happy to gather their genealogical data then use the simplist means available for displaying it in a webpage(s). Until such time as bandwidth used is subject to "Emissions Trading Scheme / Carbon Credits/Debts" type penalties, I doubt if the "Formula One" approach will gain much favour when a "programmed conversion" scheme is available. For those that wish to have a go at the "Formula One" approach to webpage design and coding, there are many places to get basic tutoring for free, including this list. Most if not all problems you may encounter can be overcome, and the satisfaction of having your own creation will possibly out-weigh the perceived "struggle" to get there. As an example, I've created two text files:- The first contains the HTML code (less the Rootsweb banners code) from an URL posted to the FreeHelp List today. It doesn't validate (46 errors). http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/old-code.txt The second file produces an exact replica of the first, but uses 23 times less mark-up. It validates as HTML5. http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/new-code.txt You can download or look at the code. Saving each file and changing the extension from .txt to .html, will enable you to see for yourself (provided you are online) how each file displays exactly the same way. The number of bytes used in each is shown as a comment at the end of the final div. Barry

Thanks. Changing to lower case "i" in index.htm got the page to show .... and the directory (finally) listed it this morning. Best regards, Bill Barron Message: 5 Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 11:39:33 -0400 From: Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Listing in Directory To: WA Barron RR <wabarron@tampabay.rr.com> Cc: "FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com" <FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <383439.99100.bm@smtp110.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:10 AM 8/8/2012, WA Barron RR wrote: >My free page is "up" >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wabarron/Index.htm >but not listed in the directory. Admittedly the page was written in >the easy standard way using Publisher; which I use on all my >websites ... and I even added an extra "Title" line to be double >sure the HTML was ok. Your home/entry page is named "Index.htm" -- with an upper case "I". Change it to lower case -- index.htm And remove the duplicate <.title> tag. That can only confuse the indexer <g> Pat Asher

On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 01:00:25 -0600 freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > As an example, I've created two text files:- > The first contains the HTML code (less the Rootsweb banners code) from an > URL posted to the FreeHelp List today. It doesn't validate (46 errors). > > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/old-code.txt > > The second file produces an exact replica of the first, but uses 23 times > less mark-up. It validates as HTML5. > > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/new-code.txt > > You can download or look at the code. Saving each file and changing the > extension from .txt to .html, will enable you to see for yourself > (provided you are online) how each file displays exactly the same way. The > number of bytes used in each is shown as a comment at the end of the final > div. > > Barry 1 to 23 in file size. Sweet stuff Barry. Always inspiring. jSS

Just a thought...I'm a professional musician...not a computer programmer. I began researching online in 1989...before wysiwyg...I learned to write html...made some (dare I say many?) mistakes, but learned from them. Rootsweb and their subscribers were exceedingly helpful all during this learning process. I haven't seen anyone tell newbies that Freepages has a wysiwyg editor. I haven't used it, but it is there none-the-less. Take a chance...it won't impair your thinking processes at all. {:-) Paul

  I have not started my FREEPAGES yet, but have read everyones suggestions and ideas.  I must say I have learned a great deal.  Here comes the BUT.....I am ever so visual and am wondering if there is an on line learning tool that shows step by step...and boy I really need step by step, preferably with pictures too.  If someone shows me or I see it in print, I'm good to go.  So if there are websites out there I'd appreciate your information.  thanks so much   Cara

>Both Pats are too modest to say so, but they've done wonderful jobs of creating their websites and providing helpful materials for newbies to Web design. Also, they've been generous in allowing their materials and techniques to be freely borrowed. Hear hear Ralph. Such generosity is hard to find these days, that it exists for us all is wonderful. Thank you so much Pat A and Pat G for the help so kindly given and making it possible for 'newbies' to succeed by your easily understood tutorials. My best wishes, Jill See website, KNIGHT, DAVIES and for 3 lines of JONES http://www.muirfamily-genealogy-online.co.uk/

Hi Barry, How come that the old code doesn't even display the page for me? I can see the code when clicking on view source. Looks terrible to me. Glad I do not have to make corrections on that. Thank you for your help, Heidi Boos-Utley Email: hutley@greenhills.net URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarls@gmail.com> To: <FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 22:34 Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Creating Web Pages > There are many methods of getting information into a webpage, and the > simplest is by creating your page in MS Office or Open Office and saving > as a HTML document. There are limitations associated with this method, > invovling loss of potential functionality that is offered by direct > generation of the basic HTML and CSS (Cascading Style Sheets). > > As a means of placing information on the web, the above conversion to HTML > is simple, but the complexity involved in the conversion process produces > over twenty times the code needed for the same information to be created > when using HTML directly. > > The choice is yours, and there will be those who wish to stylize their > website by creating very professional looking pages, while others will be > happy to gather their genealogical data then use the simplist means > available for displaying it in a webpage(s). Until such time as bandwidth > used is subject to "Emissions Trading Scheme / Carbon Credits/Debts" type > penalties, I doubt if the "Formula One" approach will gain much favour > when > a > "programmed conversion" scheme is available. > > For those that wish to have a go at the "Formula One" approach to webpage > design and coding, there are many places to get basic tutoring for free, > including this list. Most if not all problems you may encounter can be > overcome, and the satisfaction of having your own creation will possibly > out-weigh the perceived "struggle" to get there. > > As an example, I've created two text files:- > The first contains the HTML code (less the Rootsweb banners code) from an > URL posted to the FreeHelp List today. It doesn't validate (46 errors). > > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/old-code.txt > > The second file produces an exact replica of the first, but uses 23 times > less mark-up. It validates as HTML5. > > http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/new-code.txt > > You can download or look at the code. Saving each file and changing the > extension from .txt to .html, will enable you to see for yourself > (provided you are online) how each file displays exactly the same way. The > number of bytes used in each is shown as a comment at the end of the final > div. > > Barry > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message