Listing of http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/HANCOCK/ websites does not list two of my webpages which I am trying to find and access for editing. I edited them last October without any difficulty, but now they aren't even listed. Who can I contact to discover what is happening? I can get to the two webpages via links on my homepage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~grannyapple/HANCOCK/HANCOC K%20FAMILY%20HOME.html, however, I can only read them and they not accessible for editing. When I get to them, here is what shows as the URLs. Notice "grannyapple" is missing after ~: grannyapple/ Homepage Link gets me to: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hancockgroup3/Chart3-DNA-H OME.html Should read: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~grannyapple/hancockgroup3/ Chart3-DNA-HOME.html Hancock Lineages gets me to: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hancockgroup3/Chart3-Genea logies.html Should read: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~grannyapple/hancockgroup3/ Chart3-Genealogies.html Since I use basic HTML, and my basic HTML is changed evidently automatically by a robot to a more complicated HTML, these webpage links appear without http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/ etc. As you can see...it merely show the tilde ~ in front of hancockgroup3 etc. Can anyone enlighten me? How can I get access to edit these pages if they are not showing up on my Listing? Audrey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I can get to these websites if I go to this website: HANCOCK FAMILY HOMEPAGE http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~grannyapple/HANCOCK/HANCOC K%20FAMILY%20HOME.html And then I click on the link for: HANCOCK-HANDCOCK CHART 3 DNA COUSINS by Audrey (Shields) Hancock DNA Relationships--Known and Unknown, Somehow DNA relatives connected to Benjamin Hancock of VA and his Descendants of VA, KY, OH and Beyond. Homepage Link gets me to: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hancockgroup3/Chart3-DNA-H OME.html Hancock Lineages gets me to: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hancockgroup3/Chart3-Genea logies.html
It's obvious that there is a "hancockgroup3" site on Rootseweb Freepages. There is lots of pages on the site. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hancockgroup3/ On 05/11/2013 10:24 AM, Audrey Shields Hancock wrote: > Listing of http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/HANCOCK/ > websites does not list two of my webpages which I am trying to find and > access for editing. I edited them last October without any difficulty, but > now they aren't even listed. > > Who can I contact to discover what is happening? I can get to the two > webpages via links on my homepage > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~grannyapple/HANCOCK/HANCOC > K%20FAMILY%20HOME.html, however, I can only read them and they not > accessible for editing. > > When I get to them, here is what shows as the URLs. > > Notice "grannyapple" is missing after ~: grannyapple/ > > Homepage Link gets me to: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hancockgroup3/Chart3-DNA-H > OME.html > Should read: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~grannyapple/hancockgroup3/ > Chart3-DNA-HOME.html > > > Hancock Lineages gets me to: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hancockgroup3/Chart3-Genea > logies.html > Should read: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~grannyapple/hancockgroup3/ > Chart3-Genealogies.html > > > Since I use basic HTML, and my basic HTML is changed evidently automatically > by a robot to a more complicated HTML, these webpage links appear without > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~grannyapple/ etc. As you can > see...it merely show the tilde ~ in front of hancockgroup3 etc. > > Can anyone enlighten me? How can I get access to edit these pages if they > are not showing up on my Listing? > > Audrey > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > I can get to these websites if I go to this website: > HANCOCK FAMILY HOMEPAGE > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~grannyapple/HANCOCK/HANCOC > K%20FAMILY%20HOME.html > > And then I click on the link for: > > HANCOCK-HANDCOCK CHART 3 > DNA COUSINS > by > Audrey (Shields) Hancock > DNA Relationships--Known and Unknown, > Somehow DNA relatives connected > to > Benjamin Hancock of VA and his Descendants of VA, KY, OH > and > Beyond. > > > > Homepage Link gets me to: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hancockgroup3/Chart3-DNA-H > OME.html > > Hancock Lineages gets me to: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hancockgroup3/Chart3-Genea > logies.html > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” -Albert Einstein _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._
Margarets gmail wrote: > Do we need this message in our mailbox every day????? My opinion is NO WE DO > NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are two things you can do if you find messages offensive: either use the delete key which every computer comes with -or- complain *offlist* to the list admin at the following address: FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com Abusing another list member is contrary to good netiquette. Could you please remember to take the advice given at the top of the digest: <quote> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. <quote> -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk
Many thanks to all those who replied so promptly and helpfully to my enquiries. As to Margaret I would just say this. I found your comment deeply offensive. Perhaps you would care to enlighten me as to why you find my message so unsuitable for this mailbox. In my opinion you are NOT the right sort of person to be on a Helpline!!! Valerie Lirakis
On 10/05/2013 10:29 AM, Margarets gmail wrote: > Do we need this message in our mailbox every day????? My opinion is NO WE DO > NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > I only got it because you sent it Greg
At 10:16 AM 5/10/2013, Valerie lirakis wrote: >As to Margaret I would just say this. I found your comment deeply >offensive. Perhaps you would care to enlighten me as to why you find my >message so unsuitable for this mailbox. In my opinion you are NOT the right >sort of person to be on a Helpline!!! The comment was not directed at you or your post. It appeared to come from someone who does not understand how a mailing list works. When you subscribe to a mailing list at RootsWeb, you receive a copy of EVERY post made to the list. Some may be about a subject in which you are interested, but others may not. This list has been quiet for a few weeks, so the sudden flood of posts and responses was unexpected by this subscriber. I have written to her privately explaining how to unsubscribe. Pat Asher List Admin
On Friday, May 10, 2013 10:23 AM (UTC+12) Subject: [FreeHelp] Login problems,help required please > Hello , > Can sks offer assistance? > I'm trying to FTP files to my web site but the login details do not work. > I'm using ...users.freepages.rootsweb.com/~horlergenealogy > plus my allotted password But it is not working! > I need the full FTP login details Please! > -------------------------- Tony, FTP Server: users.freepages.rootsweb.com User Name: horlergenealogy Password: xxxxxxxxxxxxx Your FTP client my provide you with other options, but the above is necessary to login to your site. Barry
IMHO, another issue because new Freepages users are automatically subscribed in digest mode. inexperienced list users most often just hit "Reply" and their e-mail is configured to include the previous post in the reply. As things progress the messages just get longer and longer with the digest being sent and resent over and over. New users should be subscribed in individual e-mail mode. It doesn't substantially increase the number of posts and lessens the repeat issue. As a general rule the list is pretty quiet. For all those in digest mode, I suggest you unsubscribe from the digest and resubscribe to the individual e-mails. I did it years ago and haven't regretted it a bit. On 05/10/2013 09:36 AM, List Admin FPH wrote: > The comment was not directed at you or your post. It appeared to come > from someone who does not understand how a mailing list works. When > you subscribe to a mailing list at RootsWeb, you receive a copy of > EVERY post made to the list. Some may be about a subject in which you > are interested, but others may not. This list has been quiet for a few > weeks, so the sudden flood of posts and responses was unexpected by > this subscriber. I have written to her privately explaining how to > unsubscribe. Pat Asher List Admin ------------------------------- To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” -Albert Einstein _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._
G'day Greg et al Thanks for your help, I'll now see if it works again. Tony Friday, May 10, 2013, 8:33:32 AM, you wrote: On 10/05/2013 8:23 AM, Tony wrote: Hello , Can sks offer assistance? I'm trying to FTP files to my web site but the login details do not work. I'm using ...users.freepages.rootsweb.com/~horlergenealogy plus my allotted password But it is not working! I need the full FTP login details Please! Mine says - [1]ftp://users.freepages.rootsweb.com/genealogy_html horlergenealogy is your user id and you know your password -- DAVIS Genealogy Blog - [2]http://davisgenealogyproject.blogspot.com -- Best regards, Tony [3]mailto:Tony@meighan.name References 1. ftp://users.freepages.rootsweb.com/genealogy_html 2. http://davisgenealogyproject.blogspot.com/ 3. mailto:Tony@meighan.name
On 10/05/2013 8:23 AM, Tony wrote: > Hello , > Can sks offer assistance? > I'm trying to FTP files to my web site but the login details do not work. > I'm using ...users.freepages.rootsweb.com/~horlergenealogy > plus my allotted password But it is not working! > I need the full FTP login details Please! > > Mine says - ftp://users.freepages.rootsweb.com/genealogy_html horlergenealogy is your user id and you know your password -- DAVIS Genealogy Blog - http://davisgenealogyproject.blogspot.com
Hello , Can sks offer assistance? I'm trying to FTP files to my web site but the login details do not work. I'm using ...users.freepages.rootsweb.com/~horlergenealogy plus my allotted password But it is not working! I need the full FTP login details Please! -- Regards, Tony mailto:Tony@meighan.name
I am one of the 'bad' ones here Margaret who didn't snip their posts! Apologies from me. My best wishes, Jill Glamorgan Mailing List's website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/
If you do not want to receive the messages then unsubscribe! Linda now in California (was Costa Rica) Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Margarets gmail Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 5:29 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 49 Do we need this message in our mailbox every day????? My opinion is NO WE DO NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do we need this message in our mailbox every day????? My opinion is NO WE DO NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com> To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 12:47 AM Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 49 > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the > message subject to which you are replying. > ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** > <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Headers and Footers (Jill Muir) > 2. Re: Headers and Footers (Billie Walsh) > 3. Re: Headers and Footers (Ralph Taylor) > 4. Login problems,help required please (Tony) > 5. Re: Login problems,help required please (Barry Carlson) > 6. Re: Login problems,help required please (Greg) > 7. Re: Login problems,help required please (Heidi Utley) > 8. Re: Login problems,help required please (Tony) > 9. Re: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 48 (Valerie lirakis) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 15:54:22 +0100 > From: "Jill Muir" <jill@shottle.plus.com> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers > To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <966C588B1EF64CFA9A2EA9E9E4F872B7@JILLMUIR> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > This interested me and I send the link below on this subject. It may > helpful to do as suggested here in breaking up a long page of text. I > don't > like long pages and tend you move off the site, but that is probably the > age > of my old eyes. > > http://webstyleguide.com/wsg3/7-page-design/6-page-width-line-length.html > > > My best wishes, Jill > Glamorgan Mailing List's website > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Geary > Sent: 08 May 2013 15:02 > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers > > At 09:54 AM 5/8/2013, you wrote: >>IF it is REALLY important that your page have the page breaks like a >>Word document or PDF there is a way to accomplish it. I don't think it >>could be done in a WYSIWYG editor and it definitely isn't a >>"recommended" method of web page creation. BUT, it would work for you. >>It requires creating each "page" in a table. Using a border to >>delineate the pages from the background. >> >>As a second thought it might be possible using style elements but would >>probably be even more difficult. > ================ > > You might also remember that even though a webpage can certainly be as > long > as you want, it is not always a good idea. Extremely long pages - many > thousands of lines - can take a very long time to load over a slow > connection and if you are using word can sometimes cause a computer to > freeze. > > Another solution is to create your pages and have an arrow or something at > the bottom to indicate go to next page. > > Example: http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ew4/ scroll to bottom. > What would be the next page in the ebook uses an arrow and next with a > link > to the next page. > > pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 10:55:20 -0500 > From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <518BC6E8.30809@swbell.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Very nice link. Thank You. > > On 05/09/2013 09:54 AM, Jill Muir wrote: >> This interested me and I send the link below on this subject. It may >> helpful to do as suggested here in breaking up a long page of text. I >> don't >> like long pages and tend you move off the site, but that is probably the >> age >> of my old eyes. >> >> http://webstyleguide.com/wsg3/7-page-design/6-page-width-line-length.html >> >> >> My best wishes, Jill >> Glamorgan Mailing List's website >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Geary >> Sent: 08 May 2013 15:02 >> To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers >> >> At 09:54 AM 5/8/2013, you wrote: >>> IF it is REALLY important that your page have the page breaks like a >>> Word document or PDF there is a way to accomplish it. I don't think it >>> could be done in a WYSIWYG editor and it definitely isn't a >>> "recommended" method of web page creation. BUT, it would work for you. >>> It requires creating each "page" in a table. Using a border to >>> delineate the pages from the background. >>> >>> As a second thought it might be possible using style elements but would >>> probably be even more difficult. >> ================ >> >> You might also remember that even though a webpage can certainly be as >> long >> as you want, it is not always a good idea. Extremely long pages - many >> thousands of lines - can take a very long time to load over a slow >> connection and if you are using word can sometimes cause a computer to >> freeze. >> >> Another solution is to create your pages and have an arrow or something >> at >> the bottom to indicate go to next page. >> >> Example: http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ew4/ scroll to bottom. >> What would be the next page in the ebook uses an arrow and next with a >> link >> to the next page. >> >> pat >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -- > > ?Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I?m > not sure about the former.? > -Albert Einstein > > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 12:47:13 -0600 > From: "Ralph Taylor" <rt-sails@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers > To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <C7784FA26CFD48CD9BABF529CD7A8152@Ralphs> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Just to clarify/add to what Pat and Billie have already said. > > Your problem seems to be less with FrontPage than a conflict between MS > Word's engineering and that of the World Wide Web, which relies on > hypertext > markup language (HTML). > > On the Web, each "page" is a separate HTML file -- though page files can > be > linked to one another with hyperlinks. For the sort of use you're > describing, I'd suggest links for "Home", "Previous" and "Next". > > A way to have common headers and footers is to use an include command; the > same header and/or footer files get called into each page as needed. There > are a couple of ways to accomplish this: SSI (server-side includes) and > FrontPage includes. > > Making a HTML file isn't Word's strongest suit. It often has the results > you > experienced and, also, bloats the file with inefficient code through heavy > reliance on inline styling of each element. In particular, footnotes (at > the > bottom of each Word page) get converted to endnotes (at the end of the > HTML > document). > -rt_/) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 08:23:13 +1000 > From: Tony <Tony@meighan.name> > Subject: [FreeHelp] Login problems,help required please > To: Freepages-Help@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <33938301.20130510082313@meighan.name> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello , > Can sks offer assistance? > I'm trying to FTP files to my web site but the login details do not work. > I'm using ...users.freepages.rootsweb.com/~horlergenealogy > plus my allotted password But it is not working! > I need the full FTP login details Please! > > > -- > Regards, > Tony mailto:Tony@meighan.name > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:32:59 +1200 > From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarlson@vodafone.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Login problems,help required please > To: "Tony" <Tony@meighan.name>, <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <1574A4B3A73C4A5AB2931CD3906694F8@BERT> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > On Friday, May 10, 2013 10:23 AM (UTC+12) > Subject: [FreeHelp] Login problems,help required please > > >> Hello , >> Can sks offer assistance? >> I'm trying to FTP files to my web site but the login details do not >> work. >> I'm using ...users.freepages.rootsweb.com/~horlergenealogy >> plus my allotted password But it is not working! >> I need the full FTP login details Please! >> > -------------------------- > Tony, > > FTP Server: users.freepages.rootsweb.com > User Name: horlergenealogy > Password: xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Your FTP client my provide you with other options, but the above is > necessary to login to your site. > > Barry > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 08:33:32 +1000 > From: Greg <gdav9@gdavis.id.au> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Login problems,help required please > To: Tony <Tony@meighan.name>, freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <518C243C.3090302@gdavis.id.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 10/05/2013 8:23 AM, Tony wrote: >> Hello , >> Can sks offer assistance? >> I'm trying to FTP files to my web site but the login details do not >> work. >> I'm using ...users.freepages.rootsweb.com/~horlergenealogy >> plus my allotted password But it is not working! >> I need the full FTP login details Please! >> >> > Mine says - ftp://users.freepages.rootsweb.com/genealogy_html > > horlergenealogy is your user id > > and you know your password > > > > -- > DAVIS Genealogy Blog - http://davisgenealogyproject.blogspot.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 17:39:38 -0500 > From: "Heidi Utley" <hutley@greenhills.net> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Login problems,help required please > To: "Tony" <Tony@meighan.name>, <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <FE3BD5D7EB1A45188CF5370C34366D45@utley7cb852c83> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > It depends on the FTP client you are using. If you are using FrontPage2003 > you will need to enter > ftp://useres.freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/genealogy_html and click on > "Use Passive FTP" > > For more instructions you can look here: > > http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~zuber/gentips/newsite/5publish/index.htm > > Kind regards, > > Heidi Boos-Utley > Email: hutley@greenhills.net > URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony" <Tony@meighan.name> > To: <Freepages-Help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 5:23 PM > Subject: [FreeHelp] Login problems,help required please > > >> Hello , >> Can sks offer assistance? >> I'm trying to FTP files to my web site but the login details do not >> work. >> I'm using ...users.freepages.rootsweb.com/~horlergenealogy >> plus my allotted password But it is not working! >> I need the full FTP login details Please! >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Tony mailto:Tony@meighan.name >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 08:42:16 +1000 > From: Tony <Tony@meighan.name> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Login problems,help required please > To: Greg <gdav9@gdavis.id.au> > Cc: Freepages-Help@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1495109899.20130510084216@meighan.name> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > G'day Greg et al > Thanks for your help, I'll now see if it works again. > Tony > Friday, May 10, 2013, 8:33:32 AM, you wrote: > > On 10/05/2013 8:23 AM, Tony wrote: > Hello , > Can sks offer assistance? > I'm trying to FTP files to my web site but the login details do not > work. > I'm using ...users.freepages.rootsweb.com/~horlergenealogy > plus my allotted password But it is not working! > I need the full FTP login details Please! > > Mine says - [1]ftp://users.freepages.rootsweb.com/genealogy_html > horlergenealogy is your user id > and you know your password > -- > DAVIS Genealogy Blog - [2]http://davisgenealogyproject.blogspot.com > > -- > Best regards, > Tony [3]mailto:Tony@meighan.name > > References > > 1. ftp://users.freepages.rootsweb.com/genealogy_html > 2. http://davisgenealogyproject.blogspot.com/ > 3. mailto:Tony@meighan.name > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 00:46:44 +0100 > From: Valerie lirakis <valerie.lirakis@googlemail.com> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 48 > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CACixnKTfBLXLsZ4SzOmcoYxnf0fV5rrOGWAP_rzZeFmOGZu+Rg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thanks to Pat and Billie for your replies. I have done as you suggest and > created multiple pages with a hyperlink. That is the way I've done them in > the past, but this time I felt I wanted something different. > > Can you suggest another software program that would be compatible with > F.P. > I want to transfer from my desk top to lap top, but unfortunately haven't > got the installation disk for F.P. Having got used to that over the years > I would be reluctant to change to something more complicated. > > Valerie > > > > > On 9 May 2013 08:00, <freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> >> >> When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to >> which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. >> Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with >> the >> message subject to which you are replying. >> ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** >> <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Headers and Footers (Valerie lirakis) >> 2. Re: Headers and Footers (Pat Geary) >> 3. Re: Headers and Footers (Billie Walsh) >> 4. Re: Headers and Footers (Pat Geary) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 12:08:53 +0100 >> From: Valerie lirakis <valerie.lirakis@googlemail.com> >> Subject: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers >> To: FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> < >> CACixnKTj-d2nQ5iPTPopiS3pgV_TQ-8Nb106FxWWh6tUVN+wZA@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> I've been using FrontPage for a number of years now without any serious >> problems. However, I recently created a document in Word, which I then >> opened in F.P. and found that it had completely altered the formatting. >> Instead of having several A4 size pages with a header on each page, and >> footnotes on the bottom of each, it is one continuous document, minus the >> heading, and the footnotes appear on the last page in a continuous >> column, >> which is not what I want. >> >> I have looked in F.P. Help on how to make page breaks, but there is >> nothing >> listed that helps me, which suggests that this might not be possible. I >> do >> hope I'm wrong about this. Can anyone help, please? >> >> Valerie Lirakis >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 08:01:54 -0400 >> From: Pat Geary <pat@the-gearys.com> >> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers >> To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <201305081202.r48C1vEa001834@mail.rootsweb.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >> >> At 07:08 AM 5/8/2013, you wrote: >> >I've been using FrontPage for a number of years now without any serious >> >problems. However, I recently created a document in Word, which I then >> >opened in F.P. and found that it had completely altered the formatting. >> > Instead of having several A4 size pages with a header on each page, >> > and >> >footnotes on the bottom of each, it is one continuous document, minus >> >the >> >heading, and the footnotes appear on the last page in a continuous >> >column, >> >which is not what I want. >> > >> >I have looked in F.P. Help on how to make page breaks, but there is >> nothing >> >listed that helps me, which suggests that this might not be possible. I >> >do >> >hope I'm wrong about this. Can anyone help, please? >> ================ >> >> You don't make Page Breaks in FrontPage, you create a new page. And >> if you are creating your website in Word and saving it as an HTML >> page, you are likely to have a humongous amount of additional code >> that is going to increase the size of your page as well as the >> possibility of display issues. See >> http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pasher/wpcode.htm >> >> Pat >> >> Pat Geary >> Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 08:54:16 -0500 >> From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> >> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers >> To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <518A5908.2040803@swbell.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >> >> On 05/08/2013 07:01 AM, Pat Geary wrote: >> > At 07:08 AM 5/8/2013, you wrote: >> >> I've been using FrontPage for a number of years now without any >> >> serious >> >> problems. However, I recently created a document in Word, which I then >> >> opened in F.P. and found that it had completely altered the >> >> formatting. >> >> Instead of having several A4 size pages with a header on each page, >> and >> >> footnotes on the bottom of each, it is one continuous document, minus >> the >> >> heading, and the footnotes appear on the last page in a continuous >> column, >> >> which is not what I want. >> >> >> >> I have looked in F.P. Help on how to make page breaks, but there is >> nothing >> >> listed that helps me, which suggests that this might not be possible. >> >> I >> do >> >> hope I'm wrong about this. Can anyone help, please? >> > ================ >> > >> > You don't make Page Breaks in FrontPage, you create a new page. And >> > if you are creating your website in Word and saving it as an HTML >> > page, you are likely to have a humongous amount of additional code >> > that is going to increase the size of your page as well as the >> > possibility of display issues. See >> > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pasher/wpcode.htm >> > >> > Pat >> > >> > Pat Geary >> > Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) >> > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html >> > >> > >> >> Pat is correct. Normally you would make a new web page for each "page". >> >> IF it is REALLY important that your page have the page breaks like a >> Word document or PDF there is a way to accomplish it. I don't think it >> could be done in a WYSIWYG editor and it definitely isn't a >> "recommended" method of web page creation. BUT, it would work for you. >> It requires creating each "page" in a table. Using a border to delineate >> the pages from the background. >> >> As a second thought it might be possible using style elements but would >> probably be even more difficult. >> >> -- >> >> ?Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I?m >> not sure about the former.? >> -Albert Einstein >> >> >> _ _... ..._ _ >> _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 10:02:25 -0400 >> From: Pat Geary <pat@the-gearys.com> >> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers >> To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <201305081403.r48E2WK7001234@mail.rootsweb.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >> >> At 09:54 AM 5/8/2013, you wrote: >> >IF it is REALLY important that your page have the page breaks like a >> >Word document or PDF there is a way to accomplish it. I don't think it >> >could be done in a WYSIWYG editor and it definitely isn't a >> >"recommended" method of web page creation. BUT, it would work for you. >> >It requires creating each "page" in a table. Using a border to delineate >> >the pages from the background. >> > >> >As a second thought it might be possible using style elements but would >> >probably be even more difficult. >> ================ >> >> You might also remember that even though a webpage can certainly be >> as long as you want, it is not always a good idea. Extremely long >> pages - many thousands of lines - can take a very long time to load >> over a slow connection and if you are using word can sometimes cause >> a computer to freeze. >> >> Another solution is to create your pages and have an arrow or >> something at the bottom to indicate go to next page. >> >> Example: http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ew4/ scroll to >> bottom. What would be the next page in the ebook uses an arrow and >> next with a link to the next page. >> >> pat >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to >> FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list, send an email to >> FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 48 >> ********************************************* >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list, send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 49 > *********************************************
Thanks to Pat and Billie for your replies. I have done as you suggest and created multiple pages with a hyperlink. That is the way I've done them in the past, but this time I felt I wanted something different. Can you suggest another software program that would be compatible with F.P. I want to transfer from my desk top to lap top, but unfortunately haven't got the installation disk for F.P. Having got used to that over the years I would be reluctant to change to something more complicated. Valerie On 9 May 2013 08:00, <freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to > which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. > Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the > message subject to which you are replying. > ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** > <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Headers and Footers (Valerie lirakis) > 2. Re: Headers and Footers (Pat Geary) > 3. Re: Headers and Footers (Billie Walsh) > 4. Re: Headers and Footers (Pat Geary) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 12:08:53 +0100 > From: Valerie lirakis <valerie.lirakis@googlemail.com> > Subject: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers > To: FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > < > CACixnKTj-d2nQ5iPTPopiS3pgV_TQ-8Nb106FxWWh6tUVN+wZA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I've been using FrontPage for a number of years now without any serious > problems. However, I recently created a document in Word, which I then > opened in F.P. and found that it had completely altered the formatting. > Instead of having several A4 size pages with a header on each page, and > footnotes on the bottom of each, it is one continuous document, minus the > heading, and the footnotes appear on the last page in a continuous column, > which is not what I want. > > I have looked in F.P. Help on how to make page breaks, but there is nothing > listed that helps me, which suggests that this might not be possible. I do > hope I'm wrong about this. Can anyone help, please? > > Valerie Lirakis > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 08:01:54 -0400 > From: Pat Geary <pat@the-gearys.com> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <201305081202.r48C1vEa001834@mail.rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 07:08 AM 5/8/2013, you wrote: > >I've been using FrontPage for a number of years now without any serious > >problems. However, I recently created a document in Word, which I then > >opened in F.P. and found that it had completely altered the formatting. > > Instead of having several A4 size pages with a header on each page, and > >footnotes on the bottom of each, it is one continuous document, minus the > >heading, and the footnotes appear on the last page in a continuous column, > >which is not what I want. > > > >I have looked in F.P. Help on how to make page breaks, but there is > nothing > >listed that helps me, which suggests that this might not be possible. I do > >hope I'm wrong about this. Can anyone help, please? > ================ > > You don't make Page Breaks in FrontPage, you create a new page. And > if you are creating your website in Word and saving it as an HTML > page, you are likely to have a humongous amount of additional code > that is going to increase the size of your page as well as the > possibility of display issues. See > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pasher/wpcode.htm > > Pat > > Pat Geary > Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 08:54:16 -0500 > From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <518A5908.2040803@swbell.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > On 05/08/2013 07:01 AM, Pat Geary wrote: > > At 07:08 AM 5/8/2013, you wrote: > >> I've been using FrontPage for a number of years now without any serious > >> problems. However, I recently created a document in Word, which I then > >> opened in F.P. and found that it had completely altered the formatting. > >> Instead of having several A4 size pages with a header on each page, > and > >> footnotes on the bottom of each, it is one continuous document, minus > the > >> heading, and the footnotes appear on the last page in a continuous > column, > >> which is not what I want. > >> > >> I have looked in F.P. Help on how to make page breaks, but there is > nothing > >> listed that helps me, which suggests that this might not be possible. I > do > >> hope I'm wrong about this. Can anyone help, please? > > ================ > > > > You don't make Page Breaks in FrontPage, you create a new page. And > > if you are creating your website in Word and saving it as an HTML > > page, you are likely to have a humongous amount of additional code > > that is going to increase the size of your page as well as the > > possibility of display issues. See > > http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pasher/wpcode.htm > > > > Pat > > > > Pat Geary > > Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html > > > > > > Pat is correct. Normally you would make a new web page for each "page". > > IF it is REALLY important that your page have the page breaks like a > Word document or PDF there is a way to accomplish it. I don't think it > could be done in a WYSIWYG editor and it definitely isn't a > "recommended" method of web page creation. BUT, it would work for you. > It requires creating each "page" in a table. Using a border to delineate > the pages from the background. > > As a second thought it might be possible using style elements but would > probably be even more difficult. > > -- > > ?Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I?m > not sure about the former.? > -Albert Einstein > > > _ _... ..._ _ > _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 10:02:25 -0400 > From: Pat Geary <pat@the-gearys.com> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <201305081403.r48E2WK7001234@mail.rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > At 09:54 AM 5/8/2013, you wrote: > >IF it is REALLY important that your page have the page breaks like a > >Word document or PDF there is a way to accomplish it. I don't think it > >could be done in a WYSIWYG editor and it definitely isn't a > >"recommended" method of web page creation. BUT, it would work for you. > >It requires creating each "page" in a table. Using a border to delineate > >the pages from the background. > > > >As a second thought it might be possible using style elements but would > >probably be even more difficult. > ================ > > You might also remember that even though a webpage can certainly be > as long as you want, it is not always a good idea. Extremely long > pages - many thousands of lines - can take a very long time to load > over a slow connection and if you are using word can sometimes cause > a computer to freeze. > > Another solution is to create your pages and have an arrow or > something at the bottom to indicate go to next page. > > Example: http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ew4/ scroll to > bottom. What would be the next page in the ebook uses an arrow and > next with a link to the next page. > > pat > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list, send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 48 > ********************************************* >
At 07:46 PM 5/9/2013, you wrote: >Can you suggest another software program that would be compatible with F.P. >I want to transfer from my desk top to lap top, but unfortunately haven't >got the installation disk for F.P. Having got used to that over the years >I would be reluctant to change to something more complicated. ============= Closest thing I can recommend is Sharepoint Designer 2007 which is free. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=21581 Expression Web 4 is also free but that is gonna be a bigger learning curve. pat
It depends on the FTP client you are using. If you are using FrontPage2003 you will need to enter ftp://useres.freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/genealogy_html and click on "Use Passive FTP" For more instructions you can look here: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~zuber/gentips/newsite/5publish/index.htm Kind regards, Heidi Boos-Utley Email: hutley@greenhills.net URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~heidisfamily ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" <Tony@meighan.name> To: <Freepages-Help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 5:23 PM Subject: [FreeHelp] Login problems,help required please > Hello , > Can sks offer assistance? > I'm trying to FTP files to my web site but the login details do not work. > I'm using ...users.freepages.rootsweb.com/~horlergenealogy > plus my allotted password But it is not working! > I need the full FTP login details Please! > > > -- > Regards, > Tony mailto:Tony@meighan.name > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This interested me and I send the link below on this subject. It may helpful to do as suggested here in breaking up a long page of text. I don't like long pages and tend you move off the site, but that is probably the age of my old eyes. http://webstyleguide.com/wsg3/7-page-design/6-page-width-line-length.html My best wishes, Jill Glamorgan Mailing List's website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Geary Sent: 08 May 2013 15:02 To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers At 09:54 AM 5/8/2013, you wrote: >IF it is REALLY important that your page have the page breaks like a >Word document or PDF there is a way to accomplish it. I don't think it >could be done in a WYSIWYG editor and it definitely isn't a >"recommended" method of web page creation. BUT, it would work for you. >It requires creating each "page" in a table. Using a border to >delineate the pages from the background. > >As a second thought it might be possible using style elements but would >probably be even more difficult. ================ You might also remember that even though a webpage can certainly be as long as you want, it is not always a good idea. Extremely long pages - many thousands of lines - can take a very long time to load over a slow connection and if you are using word can sometimes cause a computer to freeze. Another solution is to create your pages and have an arrow or something at the bottom to indicate go to next page. Example: http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ew4/ scroll to bottom. What would be the next page in the ebook uses an arrow and next with a link to the next page. pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Just to clarify/add to what Pat and Billie have already said. Your problem seems to be less with FrontPage than a conflict between MS Word's engineering and that of the World Wide Web, which relies on hypertext markup language (HTML). On the Web, each "page" is a separate HTML file -- though page files can be linked to one another with hyperlinks. For the sort of use you're describing, I'd suggest links for "Home", "Previous" and "Next". A way to have common headers and footers is to use an include command; the same header and/or footer files get called into each page as needed. There are a couple of ways to accomplish this: SSI (server-side includes) and FrontPage includes. Making a HTML file isn't Word's strongest suit. It often has the results you experienced and, also, bloats the file with inefficient code through heavy reliance on inline styling of each element. In particular, footnotes (at the bottom of each Word page) get converted to endnotes (at the end of the HTML document). -rt_/)
Very nice link. Thank You. On 05/09/2013 09:54 AM, Jill Muir wrote: > This interested me and I send the link below on this subject. It may > helpful to do as suggested here in breaking up a long page of text. I don't > like long pages and tend you move off the site, but that is probably the age > of my old eyes. > > http://webstyleguide.com/wsg3/7-page-design/6-page-width-line-length.html > > > My best wishes, Jill > Glamorgan Mailing List's website > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Geary > Sent: 08 May 2013 15:02 > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] Headers and Footers > > At 09:54 AM 5/8/2013, you wrote: >> IF it is REALLY important that your page have the page breaks like a >> Word document or PDF there is a way to accomplish it. I don't think it >> could be done in a WYSIWYG editor and it definitely isn't a >> "recommended" method of web page creation. BUT, it would work for you. >> It requires creating each "page" in a table. Using a border to >> delineate the pages from the background. >> >> As a second thought it might be possible using style elements but would >> probably be even more difficult. > ================ > > You might also remember that even though a webpage can certainly be as long > as you want, it is not always a good idea. Extremely long pages - many > thousands of lines - can take a very long time to load over a slow > connection and if you are using word can sometimes cause a computer to > freeze. > > Another solution is to create your pages and have an arrow or something at > the bottom to indicate go to next page. > > Example: http://www.expression-web-tutorials.com/ew4/ scroll to bottom. > What would be the next page in the ebook uses an arrow and next with a link > to the next page. > > pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” -Albert Einstein _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._