At 05:00 PM 6/7/2013, you wrote: > I was wondering is there a problem with my site having a guestbook area? I find that feature useless BUT lots of folks use em. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/create-rootsweb-guestbook.html I think Barry Carlson also has some information of them. pat Pat Geary Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html

Hi I was wondering is there a problem with my site having a guestbook area? Thank you Stan

Hi, I am using Desktop Author for my genealogy because I can add multimedia. It also works for creating photo albums. It is flip-page and is customisable and has a search option when selected in preferences. No connection to DTA, other than a user. :-) rog AbA -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Slade Sent: 05 June 2013 21:55 To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] best method to display yearbook on website? Pat and James, Thanks for the great examples. They both appear similar in how they are set up, however, it appears that James created a separate web page to display each image, but Pat linked directly to the image itself, with a web page. both are good and effective. I was hoping to also provide some method whereby the viewer could also scroll the pages more like reading a book. Wouldn't that be helpful for a casual visitor? any suggestions to accomplish that? Jim On 6/5/2013 2:21 PM, James Slone wrote: > I had a similar problem with an antique ledger that stored accounts of early > Greene Co. TN settlers. My solution was to create an alphabetized index > page with hyperlinks to the pages containing the accounts of each person. > You could use this for both the primary photo and for club photos, sports > photos, etc. of individuals. For my example, see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jimslone/ledger/primary_in > dex.htm > > Yes, it was labor-intensive, but works well. > > God bless you, > > Jim Slone > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jim, I have scanned and posted many school yearbooks on two of my websites. Very labour-intensive, but worth the effort. Here are some links to a couple: <http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cdobie/princetontiger-yearbook-1930.htm>http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cdobie/princetontiger-yearbook-1930.htm and <http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cdobie/klcvi-yearbook-1955.htm>http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cdobie/klcvi-yearbook-1955.htm Charlie Dobie. At 02:22 PM 6/5/2013, you wrote: >A volunteer has scanned a 1934 yearbook from local school that is no >longer in existence. Our genealogy society would like to include this >yearbook on our website. The 50 pages are .jpg images. I am looking >for ideas of how best to display the yearbook on the website. > >We could use a photo album, but that would not be easily searchable for >names. > >What about putting the images full size pages into a word document, use >Acrobat Pro-X to convert that document to a PDF with OCR capability? >Then viewers could use Acrobat Reader to easily search for surnames and >places within the document. > >I would like to hear from others who have resolved this type situation. >Any suggestions that might be easier or better? Thanks, Jim Charles Dobie, cdobie@superaje.com

If you have acrobat pro you can combine any number of images into one PDF file and then process the OCR to get a text searchable document. I believe the PDF file is easier to view given all the many options adobe reader has. Our website maintains about 10,000 yearbooks so I have tried many different options. Hopefully one day we will have the funds to get most of these digitized. At that time we'll probably go with PDFs. Right now I currently upload the individual images and then view them. Joomla requires a database backend, so this is not an option on the freepages, but only mentioned for example. It could be done other ways without a database. Here is an example of individual pics from a yearbook. This yearbook was unique in that the yearbook was a picture album with each student's photo on a page. I should include a pic of the album itself :-) http://www.itsallaboutfamily.com/j16/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1039:chadron-hs-class-of-1939&catid=1240:chadron-hs Donna On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Jim Slade <slade33@gmail.com> wrote: > Ralph, my thought on putting the images in Word first was so I could get > all the images into one PDF document, in order, like a book, rather than > a PDF for each image. I thought that would be easier for the viewer to > browse. Possibly OCR to make it searchable. Is there a better method? > > JIm > > > > On 6/6/2013 11:56 AM, Ralph Taylor wrote: > > Re: "What about putting the images full size pages into a word document, > use > > > > Acrobat Pro-X to convert that document to a PDF with OCR capability?" > > > > The PDF document sounds like a good idea. However, wouldn't it be > possible > > to directly "print" the JPEG images to PDF without going through Word? > > -rt_/) > > > > Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:22:46 -0500 > > From: Jim Slade <slade33@gmail.com> > > Subject: [FreeHelp] best method to display yearbook on website? > > To: FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <51AF81F6.7070700@gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > A volunteer has scanned a 1934 yearbook from local school that is no > > longer in existence. Our genealogy society would like to include this > > yearbook on our website. The 50 pages are .jpg images. I am looking > > for ideas of how best to display the yearbook on the website. > > > > We could use a photo album, but that would not be easily searchable for > > names. > > > > What about putting the images full size pages into a word document, use > > Acrobat Pro-X to convert that document to a PDF with OCR capability? > > Then viewers could use Acrobat Reader to easily search for surnames and > > places within the document. > > > > I would like to hear from others who have resolved this type situation. > > Any suggestions that might be easier or better? Thanks, Jim > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for answering my questions. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> wrote: > At 06:48 PM 6/6/2013, Stan Wojcieh wrote: > >I have gone back and re read the agree policy for having a web site. Maybe > >I dont understand some things. How much space do I have? > > Your Freepages account space is unlimited. > > >How many pages am I allowed ? > > As many as you like, as long as those pages conform to the Freepages > Agreement > http://accounts.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index.cgi?op=show&page=freagree.htm > > >and How many can be branched off from one? > > Unlimited. > > > Pat A. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 06:48 PM 6/6/2013, Stan Wojcieh wrote: >I have gone back and re read the agree policy for having a web site. Maybe >I dont understand some things. How much space do I have? Your Freepages account space is unlimited. >How many pages am I allowed ? As many as you like, as long as those pages conform to the Freepages Agreement http://accounts.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index.cgi?op=show&page=freagree.htm >and How many can be branched off from one? Unlimited. Pat A.

Ralph, my thought on putting the images in Word first was so I could get all the images into one PDF document, in order, like a book, rather than a PDF for each image. I thought that would be easier for the viewer to browse. Possibly OCR to make it searchable. Is there a better method? JIm On 6/6/2013 11:56 AM, Ralph Taylor wrote: > Re: "What about putting the images full size pages into a word document, use > > Acrobat Pro-X to convert that document to a PDF with OCR capability?" > > The PDF document sounds like a good idea. However, wouldn't it be possible > to directly "print" the JPEG images to PDF without going through Word? > -rt_/) > > Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:22:46 -0500 > From: Jim Slade <slade33@gmail.com> > Subject: [FreeHelp] best method to display yearbook on website? > To: FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <51AF81F6.7070700@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > A volunteer has scanned a 1934 yearbook from local school that is no > longer in existence. Our genealogy society would like to include this > yearbook on our website. The 50 pages are .jpg images. I am looking > for ideas of how best to display the yearbook on the website. > > We could use a photo album, but that would not be easily searchable for > names. > > What about putting the images full size pages into a word document, use > Acrobat Pro-X to convert that document to a PDF with OCR capability? > Then viewers could use Acrobat Reader to easily search for surnames and > places within the document. > > I would like to hear from others who have resolved this type situation. > Any suggestions that might be easier or better? Thanks, Jim > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI So instead of people crazy with all my questions. I turned and asked a friend about websites and how to and all that. She let me know she has never done web sites. But she is proficient with paint shop pro. She is very creative. So she took my ideas and put them into her program and did me some drafts of what I wanted on my page. She said she can make buttons and some design items. So with that in mind and after looking at what she did some questions come to mind. I have gone back and re read the agree policy for having a web site. Maybe I dont understand some things. How much space do I have? How many pages am I allowed ? and How many can be branched off from one? Thank you Stan

Afternoon group. I find the yearbook conversation interesting. I was wondering how to get my father's WWII 1945 patalon book on line. Originally I had scanned his company. Then edited each down to each person then I uploaded them onto Ancestry.com. I was in hopes to connect. I was left my father's foot locker. There is pictures of people I do not know who they are so I wanted to add a page to hopefully allow others to view them. When i finally get my tree up can I also add these pages of this book and those photos? Thanks Vanessa Stern <vrstern@earthlink.net> wrote: >Here is another example: http://www.hpsd.k12.pa.us/archives/1934/index.htm > >Vanessa > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Re: "What about putting the images full size pages into a word document, use Acrobat Pro-X to convert that document to a PDF with OCR capability?" The PDF document sounds like a good idea. However, wouldn't it be possible to directly "print" the JPEG images to PDF without going through Word? -rt_/) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:22:46 -0500 From: Jim Slade <slade33@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp] best method to display yearbook on website? To: FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51AF81F6.7070700@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed A volunteer has scanned a 1934 yearbook from local school that is no longer in existence. Our genealogy society would like to include this yearbook on our website. The 50 pages are .jpg images. I am looking for ideas of how best to display the yearbook on the website. We could use a photo album, but that would not be easily searchable for names. What about putting the images full size pages into a word document, use Acrobat Pro-X to convert that document to a PDF with OCR capability? Then viewers could use Acrobat Reader to easily search for surnames and places within the document. I would like to hear from others who have resolved this type situation. Any suggestions that might be easier or better? Thanks, Jim

Here is another example: http://www.hpsd.k12.pa.us/archives/1934/index.htm Vanessa

At 03:21 PM 6/5/2013, James Slone wrote: >Yes, it was labor-intensive, but works well Another example http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ildewitt/CHSclass1910.htm pat

Pat and James, Thanks for the great examples. They both appear similar in how they are set up, however, it appears that James created a separate web page to display each image, but Pat linked directly to the image itself, with a web page. both are good and effective. I was hoping to also provide some method whereby the viewer could also scroll the pages more like reading a book. Wouldn't that be helpful for a casual visitor? any suggestions to accomplish that? Jim On 6/5/2013 2:21 PM, James Slone wrote: > I had a similar problem with an antique ledger that stored accounts of early > Greene Co. TN settlers. My solution was to create an alphabetized index > page with hyperlinks to the pages containing the accounts of each person. > You could use this for both the primary photo and for club photos, sports > photos, etc. of individuals. For my example, see > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jimslone/ledger/primary_in > dex.htm > > Yes, it was labor-intensive, but works well. > > God bless you, > > Jim Slone >

I had a similar problem with an antique ledger that stored accounts of early Greene Co. TN settlers. My solution was to create an alphabetized index page with hyperlinks to the pages containing the accounts of each person. You could use this for both the primary photo and for club photos, sports photos, etc. of individuals. For my example, see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~jimslone/ledger/primary_in dex.htm Yes, it was labor-intensive, but works well. God bless you, Jim Slone -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Slade Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 1:23 PM To: FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com Subject: [FreeHelp] best method to display yearbook on website? A volunteer has scanned a 1934 yearbook from local school that is no longer in existence. Our genealogy society would like to include this yearbook on our website. The 50 pages are .jpg images. I am looking for ideas of how best to display the yearbook on the website. We could use a photo album, but that would not be easily searchable for names. What about putting the images full size pages into a word document, use Acrobat Pro-X to convert that document to a PDF with OCR capability? Then viewers could use Acrobat Reader to easily search for surnames and places within the document. I would like to hear from others who have resolved this type situation. Any suggestions that might be easier or better? Thanks, Jim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A volunteer has scanned a 1934 yearbook from local school that is no longer in existence. Our genealogy society would like to include this yearbook on our website. The 50 pages are .jpg images. I am looking for ideas of how best to display the yearbook on the website. We could use a photo album, but that would not be easily searchable for names. What about putting the images full size pages into a word document, use Acrobat Pro-X to convert that document to a PDF with OCR capability? Then viewers could use Acrobat Reader to easily search for surnames and places within the document. I would like to hear from others who have resolved this type situation. Any suggestions that might be easier or better? Thanks, Jim

On Tuesday, June 04, 2013 11:52 AM (UTC12) Pat Asher wrote:- > Barry, you and your expertise in so many subjects are an enormous > asset to the Freepages-Help list and its members; but I have to ask > how many members of this list are or will likely be writing perl > based (or any) scripting language? If they are not writing scripts, > are mixed case file names still an issue; or is lower case simply a > reasonable habit for someone who consistently writes perl programming? > > If user generated scripts of any kind, including Perl, are not > allowed on the server, and Randy (the last I heard) prefers C++; and > the Apache (unix) servers at RW recognize upper and lower case > differentials in file names, why not use them? > ------------------------ Pat, Perhaps my reference to Ruby/Pearl scripting languages wasn't a good one! But while mentioning scripting languages, Javascript ( a clientside executable language ) is used by a good number of users on Freepages, and camelizing is used extensively within it. Notwithstanding, I always create filenames for such scripts in the lower-case with hyphens where required. I have no problem with anyone creating filenames using the lower/upper-case differential as it suits them. My only concern is that users creating those filenames within the Windows O/S environment can and will overwrite existing filenames which have the same alphabetical/numerical format except for a camelized variable. For that reason my stated preference is for lower-case naming. Barry

On Tuesday, June 04, 2013 7:43 AM (UTC+12) Pat Geary wrote:- > I always keep my images in a separate folder rather than the main > folder. Since I have a large number of images this system works better for > me. > Files/folders/images are named using lowercase letters with hyphens > rather than underscores. WHY? Cause that is how I learned originally. > I think the important thing to remember is be consistent with > whatever system you use. > If you are handcoding, you need to be really careful when you are > typing links. For me that is a non issue as I browse to the file and > the link is created that way. > --------------------------------- I agree with Pat's separate folder method for images, and the lower-case filenames using hyphens to ensure easy readability. I know I didn't start off doing it that way, but experience changed my habits. The mixed lower-upper case is also known in some web languages (e.g. Ruby - a Perl inspired language) as lowerCamelized or UpperCamelized. I prefer to keep camelizing for definition when writing scripts. Scripting languages differentiate between upper and lower case, as does the Rootsweb/Ancestry Apache server when parsing URLs and commands. The safe way is to adopt the lower-case format for HTML file naming, thereby ensuring compatibility with the Windows O/S (which treats lower/upper-case file naming as being the same file) and your remote host - the Apache server. Barry

At 04:49 PM 6/3/2013, Barry Carlson wrote: >The mixed lower-upper case is also known in some web languages (e.g. Ruby - >a Perl inspired language) as lowerCamelized or UpperCamelized. I prefer to >keep camelizing for definition when writing scripts. Scripting languages >differentiate between upper and lower case, as does the Rootsweb/Ancestry >Apache server when parsing URLs and commands. > >The safe way is to adopt the lower-case format for HTML file naming, thereby >ensuring compatibility with the Windows O/S (which treats lower/upper-case >file naming as being the same file) and your remote host - the Apache >server. Barry, you and your expertise in so many subjects are an enormous asset to the Freepages-Help list and its members; but I have to ask how many members of this list are or will likely be writing perl based (or any) scripting language? If they are not writing scripts, are mixed case file names still an issue; or is lower case simply a reasonable habit for someone who consistently writes perl programming? If user generated scripts of any kind, including Perl, are not allowed on the server, and Randy (the last I heard) prefers C++; and the Apache (unix) servers at RW recognize upper and lower case differentials in file names, why not use them? Pat A.

At 03:43 PM 6/3/2013, Pat Geary wrote: >I always keep my images in a separate folder rather than the main >folder. Since I have a large number of images this system works better for me. >Files/folders/images are named using lowercase letters with hyphens >rather than underscores. WHY? Cause that is how I learned originally. >I think the important thing to remember is be consistent with >whatever system you use. Often I do too, but it depends ..... For example on my USGenWeb sites, I have a cemeteries folder with html pages for each cemetery AND an images directory for each cemetery. I find it easier to have a list of all the html cemetery indexes at the top level of my cemeteries directory. The images folders are named with my personal upper case convention, e.g imagesAllen imagesChapelHill imagesDeerfield etc. That way, if there is a Robert Smith buried in more than one cemetery, I have the image of his tombstone in the correct images subdirectory. OTOH, I might have only a handful of photos accompanying biographies, so I might not set up a separate images folder in the biographies directory. People are different. We each solve questions/problem in a way with which we are comfortable. Sites are different too. What works for one might not work for another. When it comes to organizing and naming conventions, there is no one "right" way. Choose what is comfortable, and as you said -- be consistent <g> Pat A.