Valerie, What program did you use to make this web page? With all of the coding that appears when I use the "View Source", I would say that you used MS Word. Also, when you pasted it into Notepad, did you copy from your original source or from the web page viewing it with a browser? When Copying from a browser all you get is the data and NO coding. Try right clicking the webpage and select "View source. Now you will see all of the coding and the data. It will also include the coding that Ancestry adds, so this needs to be stripped before reloading to Ancestry. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Valerie lirakis Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:24 AM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: [FreeHelp] Converting word tables into FP I'm attempting to get rid of excess code in my web page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~boltongenealogy/edgworth/a ppendix_edgworth.htm I've followed the online tutorial but it doesn't appear to be working. When I copy the table into notepad the data shows as a vertical column (is this correct?). Would appreciate help on this. Valerie Lirakis ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please send your request to: FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "nasus p" <nasus_p@yahoo.com> To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 2:00 PM Subject: [FreeHelp] unsubscribe "unsubscribe" Susan "Be Yourself Everyone Else Is Taken" "Be Yourself Everyone Else Is Taken" ________________________________ From: "freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com" <freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com> To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:00 AM Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 90 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** &lt;http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> Today's Topics: 1. CSS3 - Resizable Buttons (Barry Carlson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 14:11:55 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarls@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp] CSS3 - Resizable Buttons To: "Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com" <Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <op.wzxm15z7zossfh@user-pc.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes While looking at a recent problem with the Rootsweb Guestbook Form (more about that later), I came up against two validation problems when using HTML5. The first was that the "name" attribute is now deprecated in favour of the "id" attribute. In the short-term that is not a real problem as any input fields using a "name" atribute can be made to validate by adding an "id" attribute with the same value as the "name" one. The longer-term solution is for the server-side script to be modified to accept either attribute. Moving on to the second issue, which is that it is no longer acceptable in HTML5 to include an "input" element as a container within the "a" element, e.g. <!--// <a href="#"><input type="image" src="xyz.jpg"></a> //--> This got me thinking about using background images within the "a" tag, and finally dismissing that idea in favour of designing a stylish but flexible CSS3 background buttom that is not limited by width or height constraints. The answer is to base everything on the font-size using the "em" designator. A further limitation is that the button design needs to degrade gracefully in older browsers that do not recognize CSS3 properties such as "border-radius" and "box-shadow". For those interested in taking a look, a scalable design showing 3 buttons is at:- http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/test/guestbook/gb-button.html Providing you are using IE10/11 or any up-to-date versions of Chrome, Firefox, Opera or Safari, you will be able to adjust the size of the buttons by use of a slider. In the case of Firefox, the slider takes an inputted number. Also hover over each button to check what happens. The CSS for the buttons is located in the head of the page, while any other styles are via the linked CSS file. Barry ------------------------------ To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 90 ********************************************* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

While looking at a recent problem with the Rootsweb Guestbook Form (more about that later), I came up against two validation problems when using HTML5. The first was that the "name" attribute is now deprecated in favour of the "id" attribute. In the short-term that is not a real problem as any input fields using a "name" atribute can be made to validate by adding an "id" attribute with the same value as the "name" one. The longer-term solution is for the server-side script to be modified to accept either attribute. Moving on to the second issue, which is that it is no longer acceptable in HTML5 to include an "input" element as a container within the "a" element, e.g. <!--// <a href="#"><input type="image" src="xyz.jpg"></a> //--> This got me thinking about using background images within the "a" tag, and finally dismissing that idea in favour of designing a stylish but flexible CSS3 background buttom that is not limited by width or height constraints. The answer is to base everything on the font-size using the "em" designator. A further limitation is that the button design needs to degrade gracefully in older browsers that do not recognize CSS3 properties such as "border-radius" and "box-shadow". For those interested in taking a look, a scalable design showing 3 buttons is at:- http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/test/guestbook/gb-button.html Providing you are using IE10/11 or any up-to-date versions of Chrome, Firefox, Opera or Safari, you will be able to adjust the size of the buttons by use of a slider. In the case of Firefox, the slider takes an inputted number. Also hover over each button to check what happens. The CSS for the buttons is located in the head of the page, while any other styles are via the linked CSS file. Barry

"unsubscribe"   Susan "Be Yourself Everyone Else Is Taken" "Be Yourself Everyone Else Is Taken" ________________________________ From: "freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com" <freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com> To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:00 AM Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 90 When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** &lt;http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> Today's Topics:   1.  CSS3 - Resizable Buttons (Barry Carlson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 14:11:55 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarls@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp] CSS3 - Resizable Buttons To: "Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com" <Freepages-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <op.wzxm15z7zossfh@user-pc.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed;     delsp=yes While looking at a recent problem with the Rootsweb Guestbook Form (more  about that later), I came up against two validation problems when using  HTML5. The first was that the "name" attribute is now deprecated in favour of the  "id" attribute. In the short-term that is not a real problem as  any input  fields using a "name" atribute can be made to validate by adding an "id"  attribute with the same value as the "name" one. The longer-term solution  is for the server-side script to be modified to accept either attribute. Moving on to the second issue, which is that it is no longer acceptable in  HTML5 to include an "input" element as a container within the "a" element,  e.g. <!--// <a href="#"><input type="image" src="xyz.jpg"></a> //--> This got me thinking about using background images within the "a" tag, and  finally dismissing that idea in favour of designing a stylish but flexible  CSS3 background buttom that is not limited by width or height constraints.  The answer is to base everything on the font-size using the "em"  designator. A further limitation is that the button design needs to  degrade gracefully in older browsers that do not recognize CSS3 properties  such as "border-radius" and "box-shadow". For those interested in taking a look, a scalable design showing 3 buttons  is at:- http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/test/guestbook/gb-button.html Providing you are using IE10/11 or any up-to-date versions of Chrome,  Firefox, Opera or Safari, you will be able to adjust the size of the  buttons by use of a slider. In the case of Firefox, the slider takes an  inputted number. Also hover over each button to check what happens. The CSS for the buttons is located in the head of the page, while any  other styles are via the linked CSS file. Barry ------------------------------ To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 90 *********************************************

As Pat says there is no reason to discontinue use of PAF just because the LDS have discontinued support of it, I will continue to recomend it as one of the best free family tree programs avalable and it continues to be avalable for download at multiple file dowload sites across the internet. It is, as mentioned before, very intuitive and will indeed produce perfectly aceptable web pages of decendancy or ancestors from its database. It is easy to select a range of individuals to produce limited pages or gedcoms. For those that want to show the complexitys of all the various relationships in a tree uploading a gedcom to Worldconnect is still the best idea but a decendancy list with all the notes imbedded alows one to include all those interesting anecdotes that take our work from simply a list to an interesting family history! For those new to family reserch one of the first things to do is to establish a family tree database and PAF5 continues to be a real good place to start. Don -- From the scenic Klondike Hills, Grey County, Ontario, Canada. Web site http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rawlsofdorset/index.htm <http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Erawlsofdorset/index.htm> Visit my Blog at http://ruralcanadian.blogspot.com/ Democracy requires dialogue, please join us at http://democracyunderfire.blogspot.com/

At 04:09 PM 7/5/2013, you wrote: >Do you know if they have a replacement planned/available??? > >Just curious. I'm more than satisfied with PAF5. http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/personal-ancestral-file-paf-is-discontinued/ No replace planned. They make three recommendations for free basic programs. BUT there is not reason right now to discontinue use of PAF as it will continue to function. I have Ancestral QUest and right now can go back and forth between the two. Since I am more familiar with PAF, it is easier for me to enter data and sources. Once it no longer serves my purpose, then I will move. pat Pat Geary Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freepages-ebook.html

> Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 20:27:23 -0500 > From: "Richard" <rbmc@netnitco.net> > Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] old ancestry software > To: <rt-sails@comcast.net>, <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> > > Since it was mentioned, PAF is being dumped, and will no longer be available > for dowload after July 15. > Do you know if they have a replacement planned/available??? Just curious. I'm more than satisfied with PAF5. --kg

I think you will find that they (Family Search) wants you to use their online trees at https://familysearch.org/family-trees Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Geary Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 1:22 PM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 87 At 04:09 PM 7/5/2013, you wrote: >Do you know if they have a replacement planned/available??? > >Just curious. I'm more than satisfied with PAF5. http://www.genealogy-computer-tips.com/personal-ancestral-file-paf-is-discon tinued/ No replace planned. They make three recommendations for free basic programs. BUT there is not reason right now to discontinue use of PAF as it will continue to function. I have Ancestral QUest and right now can go back and forth between the two. Since I am more familiar with PAF, it is easier for me to enter data and sources. Once it no longer serves my purpose, then I will move. pat Pat Geary Working With Rootsweb FreePages Accounts EBook (free) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/rootsweb-freep ages-ebook.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to Pat for your reply - your suggestion has worked like a charm. A very grateful Valerie

Hi there Valerie, Could you give us a link to your page please? My best wishes, Jill Glamorgan Mailing List's website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Valerie lirakis Sent: 04 July 2013 19:04 To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: [FreeHelp] Background images I'm attempting to place a background image on one of my web pages which I downloaded from my camera. The problem is that it's a very long page, and the edges appear as a white line across the screen. I've tried enlarging the picture but it just goes out of focus. Is there any way of fixing this? Valerie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Since it was mentioned, PAF is being dumped, and will no longer be available for dowload after July 15.

At 06:46 PM 7/4/2013, Billie Walsh wrote: >I have an opposing opinion. It is simply an opinion. It is not mandatory >that you follow my opinion if you don't wish to. I feel like it's a good >idea to have both sides. > >I made the mistake of uploading my GEDCOM to World Connect. I've >regretted it ever since. On World Connect I have no control. If I find a >mistake, or new information, I cannot just edit it. I have to upload a >whole new GEDCOM. I have no assurance that the old bad information is >not still available at some level. Billie, To the contrary, World Connect is probably the only place where you have COMPLETE control of your display. Any new GEDCOM you upload to WorldConnect to the same account name/user id replaces your previous GEDCOM. There is no residual from the old on WC. The only place you might find it temporarily would be on Google, until they respider, but any outdated links would fail if they do not exist in the new GEDCOM. Pat A.

At 06:57 PM 7/4/2013, you wrote: >When using World Connect all one needs to do is use the same account >name and the current tree will be replaced with the new uploaded GEDCOM file. > >It is when a different account and/or file name is used, then a new >tree is made. Since I am continually adding new info to my genealogy database (four separate ones) I find it much easier to simply generate a new GEDCOM file and replace the old one. It is the folks who keep creating a new one and a new account that have info repeated over and over with the new info not replacing the old. I then use my time and energy adding other records to my main site. You are correct - two different ways of doing things neither one right or wrong. WorldConnect Database: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tuckerfamily&id=I47 Corresponding Narrative Site: http://www.family-genealogy-online.com/tucker/ What works for me may not work for you BUT for a database that is constantly adding new info and/or documentation, updating the database is easier. pat

I'm attempting to place a background image on one of my web pages which I downloaded from my camera. The problem is that it's a very long page, and the edges appear as a white line across the screen. I've tried enlarging the picture but it just goes out of focus. Is there any way of fixing this? Valerie

Hi Barbara, I wondered why you didn't use a GEDcom to upload? http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/pt/learnmore/gedcom.aspx You need a free trial of Legacy or many others out there, or Download the Free PAF, as you seem not to have a genealogy program. I have never made a webpage to upload my files to ancestry or World Connect. My best wishes, Jill Glamorgan Mailing List's website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freepages-help-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara F Cozine Sent: 04 July 2013 17:45 To: FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com Subject: [FreeHelp] old ancestry software Judy, Thanks for the link. That is the software that I am using. I like your idea of using another program. My problem is I am taking over for someone else and I want to wait to make sure the person does not want to reclaim his maintenance of the site. I will keep this suggestion in my files. Barbara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have an opposing opinion. It is simply an opinion. It is not mandatory that you follow my opinion if you don't wish to. I feel like it's a good idea to have both sides. I made the mistake of uploading my GEDCOM to World Connect. I've regretted it ever since. On World Connect I have no control. If I find a mistake, or new information, I cannot just edit it. I have to upload a whole new GEDCOM. I have no assurance that the old bad information is not still available at some level. On 07/04/2013 03:11 PM, Ralph Taylor wrote: > Barbara asked "Does any on here use the old ancestry software for > maintaining genealogy records and creating web pages for uploading to > freepages?" > > I use Personal Ancestry File (PAF v. 5.0) for genealogy records. I also use > The Master Genealogist and Legacy. PAF is ancient, but serviceable, and has > (for me) a more intuitive user interface. > > However, I've never used -- and would never use -- PAF or any genealogy > database to make Web pages. IMO, it's far better to upload a GRDCOM file to > Rootsweb's WorldConnect, http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/. > > The advantages of WorldConnect are that (1) Rootsweb handles (on the fly) > the job of turning your database into Web pages and (2) with its > sophisticated search engine, makes your family tree far more accessible than > it would be on your own website. > > But, if you must -- create a separate folder or directory on your site for > theoe pages. I think you'll still have problems, but at least they'll be > confined. > -rt_/) > > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 20:23:22 -0400 > From: "Barbara F Cozine" <bfcozine@ptd.net> > Subject: [FreeHelp] old ancestry software > To: <FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000801ce784c$b1887200$14995600$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Does any on here use the old ancestry software for maintaining genealogy > records and creating web pages for uploading to freepages? I have the "help > feature" but do not have the User Manual and have been unable to find one > online. I have one specific issue that I do not know how to rectify. When > I make a new web page to upload and I upload it, I lose my current index > file and several other files. To get around it, after uploading the new web > page which contains the updated data on individuals, I must then upload the > current index file and the other files that disappear. Barbara > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” -Albert Einstein "A great moral force is a bayonet on a gun and a web-belt full of cartridges." -Colonel John S. Poland, U. S. Army - 1894 _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

When using World Connect all one needs to do is use the same account name and the current tree will be replaced with the new uploaded GEDCOM file. It is when a different account and/or file name is used, then a new tree is made. Sent from my Kindle Fire In God We Trust

At 02:04 PM 7/4/2013, Valerie lirakis wrote: >I'm attempting to place a background image on one of my web pages which I >downloaded from my camera. The problem is that it's a very long page, and >the edges appear as a white line across the screen. I've tried enlarging >the picture but it just goes out of focus. Is there any way of fixing this? Assuming the image is at least as wide as the screen, or you constrain your page width to the width of the image, using a "fixed" background should work. The background remains in place on the screen, and the content scrolls over the background. Insert in the HEAD section: <style> body { background-image:url('yourBackgroundImages.jpg"); background-repeat:no-repeat; background-attachment:fixed; } </style> Pat

Barbara asked "Does any on here use the old ancestry software for maintaining genealogy records and creating web pages for uploading to freepages?" I use Personal Ancestry File (PAF v. 5.0) for genealogy records. I also use The Master Genealogist and Legacy. PAF is ancient, but serviceable, and has (for me) a more intuitive user interface. However, I've never used -- and would never use -- PAF or any genealogy database to make Web pages. IMO, it's far better to upload a GRDCOM file to Rootsweb's WorldConnect, http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/. The advantages of WorldConnect are that (1) Rootsweb handles (on the fly) the job of turning your database into Web pages and (2) with its sophisticated search engine, makes your family tree far more accessible than it would be on your own website. But, if you must -- create a separate folder or directory on your site for theoe pages. I think you'll still have problems, but at least they'll be confined. -rt_/) Message: 1 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 20:23:22 -0400 From: "Barbara F Cozine" <bfcozine@ptd.net> Subject: [FreeHelp] old ancestry software To: <FREEPAGES-HELP@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000801ce784c$b1887200$14995600$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does any on here use the old ancestry software for maintaining genealogy records and creating web pages for uploading to freepages? I have the "help feature" but do not have the User Manual and have been unable to find one online. I have one specific issue that I do not know how to rectify. When I make a new web page to upload and I upload it, I lose my current index file and several other files. To get around it, after uploading the new web page which contains the updated data on individuals, I must then upload the current index file and the other files that disappear. Barbara

Judy, Thanks for the link. That is the software that I am using. I like your idea of using another program. My problem is I am taking over for someone else and I want to wait to make sure the person does not want to reclaim his maintenance of the site. I will keep this suggestion in my files. Barbara