Judy, OFF LIST The the directory 'guard' index page, is just that. It doesn't need to advertise itself or even have a fancy title. I've attached one which will work on the ~pawashin site. Rename it to index.html when you have loaded it, and use it anywhere on the site where you don't want directory listings. Barry
Judy, Why make the link to the favicon.ico file absolute? I assume you have the image file in your root directory, so just make the link on each page relative, and no need to worry about another redirect that Xenu will report.:) The basic syntax is correct, i.e. <link rel="shortcut icon" href="favicon.ico"> ... and even though 'shortcut' is not necessary for HTML5, it is still valid for legacy reasons. Barry On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 16:08:49 +1200, JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > The prior webmaster set up a favicon. It is linked as: > > <....link rel="SHORTCUT ICON" href=" > http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/favicon.ico"> with a file favicon.ico > in the root dir. > > So... rootsweb became rootsweb.ancestry.com I know the redirect works > but > then Xenu shows tons of redirects. > > In reading tonight, I saw that if a user or I delete temp files, the > favicon.ico is forced to load a new copy. > > My question, would the favicon still work if I just add ancestry to the > href in the "link rel" line above? OR do I need to do something inside > the > "favicon.ico" file itself? > > Judy
When I make an index page just to hide contents of a directory, what do I put in title, description, keywords? Is it OK to have duplicates of titles "Restricted Access Return to Main Index" in numerous sub-folders of a main topic? What is the best way to do it? Judy
You didn't say which particular page the error you quote below was found on. In fact it is the <body> tag of the page and in this case contains HTML3.2 styling inserted by the author; not Rootsweb. The following - <div id="RootsBanner-Search-Wrapper"> and all that follows to the closing </div> before <div id="userContentFP" style="padding: 8px;"> contains the mark-up for the top banner. The "userContentFP" div (inserted by Rootsweb) contains the remainder of the authors code, while the closing tag for the "userContentFP" div is before <table id="fp_ftr"> which contains the mark-up for the bottom banner. The use of background="" is a means of providing a background-image as in background="images/my-bg-pic.jpg", and was valid HTML3.2 and deprecated in HTML4.01. Good practice was to add bgcolor="#345" which would substitute for the background-image if it didn't load. Even though this "background" selector has been given no "value" (URL), its not invalid. The Xenu link sleuth utility only follows http:// and href="" links, and ignores <a href="#id/#name"> anchors or style/CSS generated url() links. The HTML4.01 inline style is <body style="background:#345 url('images/my-bg-pic.jpg')" .. achieving exactly the same outcome. Barry On Sun, 04 Aug 2013 07:05:12 +1200, <cgturcotte@gmail.com> wrote: > <.body background="" leftmargin=0 topmargin=0 rightmargin=0 > bottommargin=2 > bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" link="#000066" vlink="#666699" > alink="#CC6633".><.div id="RootsBanner-SearchWrapper".>
The prior webmaster set up a favicon. It is linked as: <....link rel="SHORTCUT ICON" href=" http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/favicon.ico"> with a file favicon.ico in the root dir. So... rootsweb became rootsweb.ancestry.com I know the redirect works but then Xenu shows tons of redirects. In reading tonight, I saw that if a user or I delete temp files, the favicon.ico is forced to load a new copy. My question, would the favicon still work if I just add ancestry to the href in the "link rel" line above? OR do I need to do something inside the "favicon.ico" file itself? Judy -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/
Dear Billie, Thanks again for catching <meta http-equiv=" content=" content> It was supposed to be <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> I can't figure out how just the middle got 'lost', but I replaced it the line now. As to the "empty URL" though, even fixing the meta tag did not fix what Xenu sees. It only appears I think on the Atlas pages (URLs given before), and the cemetery pages (3 minimum pages per cemetery). The error must be something I copied into the cemetery template from an Atlas page? I'll keep looking for the supposed error. I'm finding Xenu can be useful -- and quite maddening, depending on what "error" is reported. I do so wish it hadn't learned that so many external web links moved-- LOL-- but, fixing those gives me a break from other work. Judy On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > Just to get an idea I ran my link checker on the first example page. In > some of the pages linked from that page it found this in the header of > the pages: > > <meta http-equiv=" content="content> >
My link checker isn't finding whatever it is that Xenu is complaining about. I think Barry is correct. Nothing to worry about. On 08/03/2013 05:51 PM, JFlorian wrote: > Dear Billie, > > Thanks again for catching > <meta http-equiv=" content=" content> > > It was supposed to be > <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> > > I can't figure out how just the middle got 'lost', but I replaced it the > line now. > > As to the "empty URL" though, even fixing the meta tag did not fix what > Xenu sees. It only appears I think on the Atlas pages (URLs given before), > and the cemetery pages (3 minimum pages per cemetery). The error must be > something I copied into the cemetery template from an Atlas page? I'll > keep looking for the supposed error. > > I'm finding Xenu can be useful -- and quite maddening, depending on what > "error" is reported. I do so wish it hadn't learned that so many external > web links moved-- LOL-- but, fixing those gives me a break from other work. > > > > Judy > > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > >> Just to get an idea I ran my link checker on the first example page. In >> some of the pages linked from that page it found this in the header of >> the pages: >> >> <meta http-equiv=" content="content> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._
Judy, I've just checked - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/ without external links, and there were 149 local urls, 22 external (skipped) and NO broken urls. You have nothing to worry about! Barry ---------------- On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 15:39:08 +1200, JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > I need some help. On OLD pages I inherited on the county GenWeb, the > program Xenu reports "empty URL" on almost every map page. From what > I've > read in help forums, that alert means there is an empty href="" I have > looked but don't see what Xenu sees (and Google Webmaster Tools reports > no > problems on these pages). I never changed what the old webmaster had for > the images; I only added a header/footer I think. > > Here are just a few examples: NOTE these are OVER-SIZED map images...so > if > you don't have high-speed broadband you might not want to check... > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/old-map-pages/efinymap.html > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/peters-township_map.html > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/old-map-pages/crxcrmap.html > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/old-map-pages/nothamap.html > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/ebethmap.html > > > I really hate to mess with these pages unless I absolutely must, because > Rootsweb won't overwrite the old with new changes unless I re-upload > dozens > of times. > They do open, and everything loads. > > I mainly want to know: What the heck is Xenu complaining about? And > what > do I do to fix it? Maybe I just don't see it. > > Judy
The 'error' on the webpage is not of your creation, and is therefore beyond your repair. Part of the Rootsweb banner at the top of the page includes a background url <.body background="" leftmargin=0 topmargin=0 rightmargin=0 bottommargin=2 bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000" link="#000066" vlink="#666699" alink="#CC6633".><.div id="RootsBanner-SearchWrapper".> The background url is blank, thus unable to be resolved by Xenu. -----Original Message----- From: freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 3:00 AM To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 107 Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 23:39:08 -0400 From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp] Xenu "empty URL"? I need some help. On OLD pages I inherited on the county GenWeb, the program Xenu reports "empty URL" on almost every map page. From what I've read in help forums, that alert means there is an empty href="" I have looked but don't see what Xenu sees (and Google Webmaster Tools reports no problems on these pages). I never changed what the old webmaster had for the images; I only added a header/footer I think. Here are just a few examples: NOTE these are OVER-SIZED map images...so if you don't have high-speed broadband you might not want to check... http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/old-map-pages/efinymap.html http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/peters-township_map.html http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/old-map-pages/crxcrmap.html http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/old-map-pages/nothamap.html http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/ebethmap.html I really hate to mess with these pages unless I absolutely must, because Rootsweb won't overwrite the old with new changes unless I re-upload dozens of times. They do open, and everything loads. I mainly want to know: What the heck is Xenu complaining about? And what do I do to fix it? Maybe I just don't see it. Judy -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ ------------------------------
I forgot to say that the page I copy/pasted that snippet from was the Submission Guiddelines page. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/submission_guidelines.html On 08/03/2013 12:24 AM, JFlorian wrote: > Thanks Billie, I'll check to see what that is. > > Thanks Barry. I read on one forum that Xenu 'sees' supposed problems when > none exist. However, it did catch some dumb-dumb errors I made, like only > having one / instead of two // in a URL after http: So Xenu is worth it. > (Though, I wish it saw no errors lol.) > > Learning Tip > #1: Don't put a Submitter's Email - they change email providers, leaving > me 20 pages with a defunct email host. > #2 Don't incorporate outside links into a text paragraph-- put them in an > _include where it's easier to just delete the outdated link. > #3 Don't trust city government sites to know their own good content (that > they subsequently remove! grr!). If I had them in an _include I only > needed to change 1 page, not hunt through multiple pages. > > Judy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._
Thanks Billie, I'll check to see what that is. Thanks Barry. I read on one forum that Xenu 'sees' supposed problems when none exist. However, it did catch some dumb-dumb errors I made, like only having one / instead of two // in a URL after http: So Xenu is worth it. (Though, I wish it saw no errors lol.) Learning Tip #1: Don't put a Submitter's Email - they change email providers, leaving me 20 pages with a defunct email host. #2 Don't incorporate outside links into a text paragraph-- put them in an _include where it's easier to just delete the outdated link. #3 Don't trust city government sites to know their own good content (that they subsequently remove! grr!). If I had them in an _include I only needed to change 1 page, not hunt through multiple pages. Judy
I need some help. On OLD pages I inherited on the county GenWeb, the program Xenu reports "empty URL" on almost every map page. From what I've read in help forums, that alert means there is an empty href="" I have looked but don't see what Xenu sees (and Google Webmaster Tools reports no problems on these pages). I never changed what the old webmaster had for the images; I only added a header/footer I think. Here are just a few examples: NOTE these are OVER-SIZED map images...so if you don't have high-speed broadband you might not want to check... http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/old-map-pages/efinymap.html http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/peters-township_map.html http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/old-map-pages/crxcrmap.html http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/old-map-pages/nothamap.html http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/ebethmap.html I really hate to mess with these pages unless I absolutely must, because Rootsweb won't overwrite the old with new changes unless I re-upload dozens of times. They do open, and everything loads. I mainly want to know: What the heck is Xenu complaining about? And what do I do to fix it? Maybe I just don't see it. Judy -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/
Just to get an idea I ran my link checker on the first example page. In some of the pages linked from that page it found this in the header of the pages: <meta http-equiv=" content="content> I don't know if that is what Xenu is reporting. On 08/02/2013 10:39 PM, JFlorian wrote: > I need some help. On OLD pages I inherited on the county GenWeb, the > program Xenu reports "empty URL" on almost every map page. From what I've > read in help forums, that alert means there is an empty href="" I have > looked but don't see what Xenu sees (and Google Webmaster Tools reports no > problems on these pages). I never changed what the old webmaster had for > the images; I only added a header/footer I think. > > Here are just a few examples: NOTE these are OVER-SIZED map images...so if > you don't have high-speed broadband you might not want to check... > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/old-map-pages/efinymap.html > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/peters-township_map.html > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/old-map-pages/crxcrmap.html > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/old-map-pages/nothamap.html > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/atlas/ebethmap.html > > > I really hate to mess with these pages unless I absolutely must, because > Rootsweb won't overwrite the old with new changes unless I re-upload dozens > of times. > They do open, and everything loads. > > I mainly want to know: What the heck is Xenu complaining about? And what > do I do to fix it? Maybe I just don't see it. > > Judy -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._
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Re: "id" (Billie Walsh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:16:37 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarlson@vodafone.co.nz> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] #Top anchor To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w0y2hzy82mma7t@user-pc.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Judy, Further to Charles Dobie's comments. The 'name' attribute is deprecated and is replaced by the 'id' attribute, and complementary bottom to top and vice versa anchors should look like this:- <a id="top" href="#bottom">Bottom of Page</a> ....content in between <a id="bottom" href="#top">Top of Page</a> or check out the test page at:- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/test/page-top-test.html ..... which works in all current browsers and back to a 1999 browser from MS, i.e. Internet Explorer 5.01 If I recall correctly, Xenu will always throw up an error on an internal anchor; its not a 'true' URL. The link that Google picked up to one of your Camp pics was probably a 'ping-back' type link created to earn the site using it a cent or two each time it is clicked. Google has picked it up as a valid link to your site. As you appear to have already done - renaming the image is the quick fix. Barry On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:33:49 +1200, JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > In reviewing broken links, Xenu says my anchor is "not found 404" > > After a style section is finished at the beginning (e.g. after the HEAD > is > closed), I have > > <.....A NAME="TOP"></A> > > > In an _include, I have > > > > <....td width="30%" align="center"><b><....font size="2"><....a > href="#top"target= > "_top">Top of Page</a> </font></b > > Here are just a few example pages, including that it says "not found" for > the _include > #top not found > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/_includes/a_bottom.htm > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/_includes/bottom.htm > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/age/life-in-1948.htm > > Could someone tell me what I did wrong to make the page go from the > bottom > back up to the top? > > Judy ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:07:52 -0500 From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> Subject: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51F68548.5020305@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 07/29/2013 02:16 AM, Barry Carlson wrote: > The 'name' attribute is deprecated and is replaced by the 'id' attribute, Thanks for that info. First time I've seen that said. It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor I've been doing it like this: <a id="336"></a> <div class="person">336.</div> Could it be done something like this: <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:11:32 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarlson@vodafone.co.nz> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w0z45ixr2mma7t@user-pc.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Billie, It can be done more simply as:- <div id="336" class="person">336.</div> .... which means that any URL that had #336 appended to it would arrive at the correct page and "attempt" to drag the #336 id to the top of the page. If the page is too short, that may not be the case, but a little script can be used to highlight the correct div. When I have some time I will run a demo on the Lorem Ipsum page I posted yesterday by placing a numeral id to each paragraph, and adding the script I mentioned. If you try and validate your pages to HTML4.01 using a numeral id, then they will fail. That BTW doesn't mean they will not display or work correctly.:) This http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_id.asp page explains the differences Barry ---------------------------- On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:07:52 +1200, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. > So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has > an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents > listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor > I've been doing it like this: > > <a id="336"></a> > <div class="person">336.</div> > > Could it be done something like this: > > <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:04:39 -0500 From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51F6E6F7.2040808@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'll have to give that a try and see what happens. Thanks. On 07/29/2013 04:11 PM, Barry Carlson wrote: > Billie, > > It can be done more simply as:- > > <div id="336" class="person">336.</div> > > ... which means that any URL that had #336 appended to it would arrive at > the correct page and "attempt" to drag the #336 id to the top of the page. > If the page is too short, that may not be the case, but a little script > can be used to highlight the correct div. > > When I have some time I will run a demo on the Lorem Ipsum page I posted > yesterday by placing a numeral id to each paragraph, and adding the script > I mentioned. > > If you try and validate your pages to HTML4.01 using a numeral id, then > they will fail. That BTW doesn't mean they will not display or work > correctly.:) > > This http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_id.asp page explains the > differences > > Barry > > ---------------------------- > On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:07:52 +1200, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> > wrote: > >> It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. >> So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has >> an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents >> listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor >> I've been doing it like this: >> >> <a id="336"></a> >> <div class="person">336.</div> >> >> Could it be done something like this: >> >> <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------ To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Re: "id" (Billie Walsh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:16:37 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarlson@vodafone.co.nz> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] #Top anchor To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w0y2hzy82mma7t@user-pc.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Judy, Further to Charles Dobie's comments. The 'name' attribute is deprecated and is replaced by the 'id' attribute, and complementary bottom to top and vice versa anchors should look like this:- <a id="top" href="#bottom">Bottom of Page</a> ....content in between <a id="bottom" href="#top">Top of Page</a> or check out the test page at:- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/test/page-top-test.html ..... which works in all current browsers and back to a 1999 browser from MS, i.e. Internet Explorer 5.01 If I recall correctly, Xenu will always throw up an error on an internal anchor; its not a 'true' URL. The link that Google picked up to one of your Camp pics was probably a 'ping-back' type link created to earn the site using it a cent or two each time it is clicked. Google has picked it up as a valid link to your site. As you appear to have already done - renaming the image is the quick fix. Barry On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:33:49 +1200, JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > In reviewing broken links, Xenu says my anchor is "not found 404" > > After a style section is finished at the beginning (e.g. after the HEAD > is > closed), I have > > <.....A NAME="TOP"></A> > > > In an _include, I have > > > > <....td width="30%" align="center"><b><....font size="2"><....a > href="#top"target= > "_top">Top of Page</a> </font></b > > Here are just a few example pages, including that it says "not found" for > the _include > #top not found > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/_includes/a_bottom.htm > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/_includes/bottom.htm > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/age/life-in-1948.htm > > Could someone tell me what I did wrong to make the page go from the > bottom > back up to the top? > > Judy ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:07:52 -0500 From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> Subject: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51F68548.5020305@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 07/29/2013 02:16 AM, Barry Carlson wrote: > The 'name' attribute is deprecated and is replaced by the 'id' attribute, Thanks for that info. First time I've seen that said. It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor I've been doing it like this: <a id="336"></a> <div class="person">336.</div> Could it be done something like this: <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:11:32 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarlson@vodafone.co.nz> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w0z45ixr2mma7t@user-pc.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Billie, It can be done more simply as:- <div id="336" class="person">336.</div> .... which means that any URL that had #336 appended to it would arrive at the correct page and "attempt" to drag the #336 id to the top of the page. If the page is too short, that may not be the case, but a little script can be used to highlight the correct div. When I have some time I will run a demo on the Lorem Ipsum page I posted yesterday by placing a numeral id to each paragraph, and adding the script I mentioned. If you try and validate your pages to HTML4.01 using a numeral id, then they will fail. That BTW doesn't mean they will not display or work correctly.:) This http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_id.asp page explains the differences Barry ---------------------------- On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:07:52 +1200, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. > So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has > an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents > listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor > I've been doing it like this: > > <a id="336"></a> > <div class="person">336.</div> > > Could it be done something like this: > > <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:04:39 -0500 From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51F6E6F7.2040808@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'll have to give that a try and see what happens. Thanks. On 07/29/2013 04:11 PM, Barry Carlson wrote: > Billie, > > It can be done more simply as:- > > <div id="336" class="person">336.</div> > > ... which means that any URL that had #336 appended to it would arrive at > the correct page and "attempt" to drag the #336 id to the top of the page. > If the page is too short, that may not be the case, but a little script > can be used to highlight the correct div. > > When I have some time I will run a demo on the Lorem Ipsum page I posted > yesterday by placing a numeral id to each paragraph, and adding the script > I mentioned. > > If you try and validate your pages to HTML4.01 using a numeral id, then > they will fail. That BTW doesn't mean they will not display or work > correctly.:) > > This http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_id.asp page explains the > differences > > Barry > > ---------------------------- > On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:07:52 +1200, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> > wrote: > >> It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. >> So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has >> an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents >> listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor >> I've been doing it like this: >> >> <a id="336"></a> >> <div class="person">336.</div> >> >> Could it be done something like this: >> >> <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------ To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Re: "id" (Billie Walsh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:16:37 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarlson@vodafone.co.nz> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] #Top anchor To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w0y2hzy82mma7t@user-pc.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Judy, Further to Charles Dobie's comments. The 'name' attribute is deprecated and is replaced by the 'id' attribute, and complementary bottom to top and vice versa anchors should look like this:- <a id="top" href="#bottom">Bottom of Page</a> ....content in between <a id="bottom" href="#top">Top of Page</a> or check out the test page at:- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/test/page-top-test.html ..... which works in all current browsers and back to a 1999 browser from MS, i.e. Internet Explorer 5.01 If I recall correctly, Xenu will always throw up an error on an internal anchor; its not a 'true' URL. The link that Google picked up to one of your Camp pics was probably a 'ping-back' type link created to earn the site using it a cent or two each time it is clicked. Google has picked it up as a valid link to your site. As you appear to have already done - renaming the image is the quick fix. Barry On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:33:49 +1200, JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > In reviewing broken links, Xenu says my anchor is "not found 404" > > After a style section is finished at the beginning (e.g. after the HEAD > is > closed), I have > > <.....A NAME="TOP"></A> > > > In an _include, I have > > > > <....td width="30%" align="center"><b><....font size="2"><....a > href="#top"target= > "_top">Top of Page</a> </font></b > > Here are just a few example pages, including that it says "not found" for > the _include > #top not found > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/_includes/a_bottom.htm > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/_includes/bottom.htm > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/age/life-in-1948.htm > > Could someone tell me what I did wrong to make the page go from the > bottom > back up to the top? > > Judy ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:07:52 -0500 From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> Subject: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51F68548.5020305@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 07/29/2013 02:16 AM, Barry Carlson wrote: > The 'name' attribute is deprecated and is replaced by the 'id' attribute, Thanks for that info. First time I've seen that said. It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor I've been doing it like this: <a id="336"></a> <div class="person">336.</div> Could it be done something like this: <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:11:32 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarlson@vodafone.co.nz> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w0z45ixr2mma7t@user-pc.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Billie, It can be done more simply as:- <div id="336" class="person">336.</div> .... which means that any URL that had #336 appended to it would arrive at the correct page and "attempt" to drag the #336 id to the top of the page. If the page is too short, that may not be the case, but a little script can be used to highlight the correct div. When I have some time I will run a demo on the Lorem Ipsum page I posted yesterday by placing a numeral id to each paragraph, and adding the script I mentioned. If you try and validate your pages to HTML4.01 using a numeral id, then they will fail. That BTW doesn't mean they will not display or work correctly.:) This http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_id.asp page explains the differences Barry ---------------------------- On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:07:52 +1200, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. > So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has > an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents > listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor > I've been doing it like this: > > <a id="336"></a> > <div class="person">336.</div> > > Could it be done something like this: > > <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:04:39 -0500 From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51F6E6F7.2040808@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'll have to give that a try and see what happens. Thanks. On 07/29/2013 04:11 PM, Barry Carlson wrote: > Billie, > > It can be done more simply as:- > > <div id="336" class="person">336.</div> > > ... which means that any URL that had #336 appended to it would arrive at > the correct page and "attempt" to drag the #336 id to the top of the page. > If the page is too short, that may not be the case, but a little script > can be used to highlight the correct div. > > When I have some time I will run a demo on the Lorem Ipsum page I posted > yesterday by placing a numeral id to each paragraph, and adding the script > I mentioned. > > If you try and validate your pages to HTML4.01 using a numeral id, then > they will fail. That BTW doesn't mean they will not display or work > correctly.:) > > This http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_id.asp page explains the > differences > > Barry > > ---------------------------- > On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:07:52 +1200, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> > wrote: > >> It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. >> So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has >> an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents >> listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor >> I've been doing it like this: >> >> <a id="336"></a> >> <div class="person">336.</div> >> >> Could it be done something like this: >> >> <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------ To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Re: "id" (Billie Walsh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:16:37 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarlson@vodafone.co.nz> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] #Top anchor To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w0y2hzy82mma7t@user-pc.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Judy, Further to Charles Dobie's comments. The 'name' attribute is deprecated and is replaced by the 'id' attribute, and complementary bottom to top and vice versa anchors should look like this:- <a id="top" href="#bottom">Bottom of Page</a> ....content in between <a id="bottom" href="#top">Top of Page</a> or check out the test page at:- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/test/page-top-test.html ..... which works in all current browsers and back to a 1999 browser from MS, i.e. Internet Explorer 5.01 If I recall correctly, Xenu will always throw up an error on an internal anchor; its not a 'true' URL. The link that Google picked up to one of your Camp pics was probably a 'ping-back' type link created to earn the site using it a cent or two each time it is clicked. Google has picked it up as a valid link to your site. As you appear to have already done - renaming the image is the quick fix. Barry On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:33:49 +1200, JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > In reviewing broken links, Xenu says my anchor is "not found 404" > > After a style section is finished at the beginning (e.g. after the HEAD > is > closed), I have > > <.....A NAME="TOP"></A> > > > In an _include, I have > > > > <....td width="30%" align="center"><b><....font size="2"><....a > href="#top"target= > "_top">Top of Page</a> </font></b > > Here are just a few example pages, including that it says "not found" for > the _include > #top not found > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/_includes/a_bottom.htm > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/_includes/bottom.htm > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/age/life-in-1948.htm > > Could someone tell me what I did wrong to make the page go from the > bottom > back up to the top? > > Judy ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:07:52 -0500 From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> Subject: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51F68548.5020305@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 07/29/2013 02:16 AM, Barry Carlson wrote: > The 'name' attribute is deprecated and is replaced by the 'id' attribute, Thanks for that info. First time I've seen that said. It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor I've been doing it like this: <a id="336"></a> <div class="person">336.</div> Could it be done something like this: <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:11:32 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarlson@vodafone.co.nz> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w0z45ixr2mma7t@user-pc.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Billie, It can be done more simply as:- <div id="336" class="person">336.</div> .... which means that any URL that had #336 appended to it would arrive at the correct page and "attempt" to drag the #336 id to the top of the page. If the page is too short, that may not be the case, but a little script can be used to highlight the correct div. When I have some time I will run a demo on the Lorem Ipsum page I posted yesterday by placing a numeral id to each paragraph, and adding the script I mentioned. If you try and validate your pages to HTML4.01 using a numeral id, then they will fail. That BTW doesn't mean they will not display or work correctly.:) This http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_id.asp page explains the differences Barry ---------------------------- On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:07:52 +1200, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. > So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has > an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents > listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor > I've been doing it like this: > > <a id="336"></a> > <div class="person">336.</div> > > Could it be done something like this: > > <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:04:39 -0500 From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51F6E6F7.2040808@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'll have to give that a try and see what happens. Thanks. On 07/29/2013 04:11 PM, Barry Carlson wrote: > Billie, > > It can be done more simply as:- > > <div id="336" class="person">336.</div> > > ... which means that any URL that had #336 appended to it would arrive at > the correct page and "attempt" to drag the #336 id to the top of the page. > If the page is too short, that may not be the case, but a little script > can be used to highlight the correct div. > > When I have some time I will run a demo on the Lorem Ipsum page I posted > yesterday by placing a numeral id to each paragraph, and adding the script > I mentioned. > > If you try and validate your pages to HTML4.01 using a numeral id, then > they will fail. That BTW doesn't mean they will not display or work > correctly.:) > > This http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_id.asp page explains the > differences > > Barry > > ---------------------------- > On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:07:52 +1200, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> > wrote: > >> It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. >> So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has >> an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents >> listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor >> I've been doing it like this: >> >> <a id="336"></a> >> <div class="person">336.</div> >> >> Could it be done something like this: >> >> <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------ To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Sent via the HTC Vivid™, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 103 Date: Tue, Jul 30, 2013 12:00 am When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> Today's Topics: 1. Re: #Top anchor (Barry Carlson) 2. "id" (Billie Walsh) 3. Re: "id" (Barry Carlson) 4. Re: "id" (Billie Walsh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:16:37 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarlson@vodafone.co.nz> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] #Top anchor To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w0y2hzy82mma7t@user-pc.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Judy, Further to Charles Dobie's comments. The 'name' attribute is deprecated and is replaced by the 'id' attribute, and complementary bottom to top and vice versa anchors should look like this:- <a id="top" href="#bottom">Bottom of Page</a> ....content in between <a id="bottom" href="#top">Top of Page</a> or check out the test page at:- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/test/page-top-test.html ..... which works in all current browsers and back to a 1999 browser from MS, i.e. Internet Explorer 5.01 If I recall correctly, Xenu will always throw up an error on an internal anchor; its not a 'true' URL. The link that Google picked up to one of your Camp pics was probably a 'ping-back' type link created to earn the site using it a cent or two each time it is clicked. Google has picked it up as a valid link to your site. As you appear to have already done - renaming the image is the quick fix. Barry On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:33:49 +1200, JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > In reviewing broken links, Xenu says my anchor is "not found 404" > > After a style section is finished at the beginning (e.g. after the HEAD > is > closed), I have > > <.....A NAME="TOP"></A> > > > In an _include, I have > > > > <....td width="30%" align="center"><b><....font size="2"><....a > href="#top"target= > "_top">Top of Page</a> </font></b > > Here are just a few example pages, including that it says "not found" for > the _include > #top not found > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/_includes/a_bottom.htm > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/_includes/bottom.htm > > http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/age/life-in-1948.htm > > Could someone tell me what I did wrong to make the page go from the > bottom > back up to the top? > > Judy ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 10:07:52 -0500 From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> Subject: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51F68548.5020305@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 07/29/2013 02:16 AM, Barry Carlson wrote: > The 'name' attribute is deprecated and is replaced by the 'id' attribute, Thanks for that info. First time I've seen that said. It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor I've been doing it like this: <a id="336"></a> <div class="person">336.</div> Could it be done something like this: <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:11:32 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarlson@vodafone.co.nz> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w0z45ixr2mma7t@user-pc.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Billie, It can be done more simply as:- <div id="336" class="person">336.</div> .... which means that any URL that had #336 appended to it would arrive at the correct page and "attempt" to drag the #336 id to the top of the page. If the page is too short, that may not be the case, but a little script can be used to highlight the correct div. When I have some time I will run a demo on the Lorem Ipsum page I posted yesterday by placing a numeral id to each paragraph, and adding the script I mentioned. If you try and validate your pages to HTML4.01 using a numeral id, then they will fail. That BTW doesn't mean they will not display or work correctly.:) This http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_id.asp page explains the differences Barry ---------------------------- On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:07:52 +1200, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. > So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has > an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents > listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor > I've been doing it like this: > > <a id="336"></a> > <div class="person">336.</div> > > Could it be done something like this: > > <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:04:39 -0500 From: Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] "id" To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51F6E6F7.2040808@swbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I'll have to give that a try and see what happens. Thanks. On 07/29/2013 04:11 PM, Barry Carlson wrote: > Billie, > > It can be done more simply as:- > > <div id="336" class="person">336.</div> > > ... which means that any URL that had #336 appended to it would arrive at > the correct page and "attempt" to drag the #336 id to the top of the page. > If the page is too short, that may not be the case, but a little script > can be used to highlight the correct div. > > When I have some time I will run a demo on the Lorem Ipsum page I posted > yesterday by placing a numeral id to each paragraph, and adding the script > I mentioned. > > If you try and validate your pages to HTML4.01 using a numeral id, then > they will fail. That BTW doesn't mean they will not display or work > correctly.:) > > This http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_id.asp page explains the > differences > > Barry > > ---------------------------- > On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 03:07:52 +1200, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> > wrote: > >> It looks like the "id" can be used kind of like a regular link, kind of. >> So I'm wondering something. In this book I'm working on each person has >> an identifying number. I'm linking from their place in their parents >> listing to their own in the next generation. When creating the anchor >> I've been doing it like this: >> >> <a id="336"></a> >> <div class="person">336.</div> >> >> Could it be done something like this: >> >> <a id="336"><div class="person">336.</div></a> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._ ------------------------------ To contact the FREEPAGES-HELP list administrator, send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Sent via the HTC Vivid™, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ----- Reply message ----- From: freepages-help-request@rootsweb.com To: <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Subject: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 8, Issue 103 Date: Tue, Jul 30, 2013 12:00 am When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> Today's Topics: 1. Re: #Top anchor (Barry Carlson) 2. "id" (Billie Walsh) 3. Re: "id" (Barry Carlson) 4. Re: "id" (Billie Walsh) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:16:37 +1200 From: "Barry Carlson" <barrycarlson@vodafone.co.nz> Subject: Re: [FreeHelp] #Top anchor To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <op.w0y2hzy82mma7t@user-pc.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Judy, Further to Charles Dobie's comments. The 'name' attribute is deprecated and is replaced by the 'id' attribute, and complementary bottom to top and vice versa anchors should look like this:- <a id="top" href="#bottom">Bottom of Page</a> ....content in between <a id="bottom" href="#top">Top of Page</a> or check out the test page at:- http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/test/page-top-test.html ..... which works in all current browsers and back to a 1999 browser from MS, i.e. Internet Explorer 5.01 If I recall correctly, Xenu will always throw up an error on an internal anchor; its not a 'true' URL. The link that Google picked up to one of your Camp pics was probably a 'ping-back' type link created to earn the site using it a cent or two each time it is clicked. Google has picked it up as a valid link to your site. As you appear to have already done - renaming the image is the quick fix. Barry On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:33:49 +1200, JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > In reviewing broken links, Xenu says my anchor is "not found 404" > > After a style section is finished at the beginning (e.g. after the HEAD > is > closed), I have >
Billie, As promised a couple of days ago, I've added some random links within the Lorem Ipsum page - http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~bristowe/test/page-top-test.html#10 There is a script at the bottom of the page which - (1) Retrieves all after the # in the URL, and (2) Uses that info to change the background of the targeted paragraph to a light blue color. (3) Following that, a refresh function removes the background color from any previously selected paragraph. This script is triggered by the onclick="refreshURL()" function added to each anchor tag. You can have any numbering sequence you like, provided the same number doesn't get used more than once on any page. Likewise the href can consist of the url (either absolute or relative to another page with the anchor identifier added to it. To overcome the HTML 4.01 requirement that an 'id' must not start with a numeral, just prefix each with an alpha character, e.g. #n336. The use of numerals only in ids is valid in XHTML and HTML5, and as I have mentioned previously it also works in earlier HTML versions. Barry On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:04:39 +1200, Billie Walsh <bilwalsh@swbell.net> wrote: > I'll have to give that a try and see what happens. Thanks. > > On 07/29/2013 04:11 PM, Barry Carlson wrote: >> Billie, >> >> It can be done more simply as:- >> >> <div id="336" class="person">336.</div> >> >> ... which means that any URL that had #336 appended to it would arrive >> at >> the correct page and "attempt" to drag the #336 id to the top of the >> page. >> If the page is too short, that may not be the case, but a little script >> can be used to highlight the correct div. >> >> When I have some time I will run a demo on the Lorem Ipsum page I posted >> yesterday by placing a numeral id to each paragraph, and adding the >> script >> I mentioned. >> >> If you try and validate your pages to HTML4.01 using a numeral id, then >> they will fail. That BTW doesn't mean they will not display or work >> correctly.:) >> >> This http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_global_id.asp page explains the >> differences >> >> Barry >>