Judy, I think what you are trying to achieve can be done more simply. If you are going to have a larger image (by that I don't mean bigger than the page!) then it is probably easier to scale the bigger image in the CSS, and onmouseover change the width and height for the 'magnified' size. That way you don't need two images, or a whole lot of extra code. Here's an example:- http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bristowe/test/magnifier.html Barry ----------------- On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 09:21:51 +1200, JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote in part: > This is for my "family" site, in Towns directory. > > I received permission to copy content from a defunct website and put the > items on my website. But the only copy is on the Wayback Machine (WB) > which does not show View Source of the original webpages. > > http://web.archive.org/web/20070104080603/http://www.washpa.net/graphics/map-improvement.jpg > > That page shows a gif map. Mouse-over shows a magnifier; the image > enlarges when clicked. WB did not archive IF the site used 2 images, > small and large. > > I reduced the size of one copy; kept the other copy large. >

Ralph Taylor wrote: > This is a warning for Firefox and Chrome users. The Babylon toolbar add-on > looks attractive at first glance; it purports to translate directly from > your Web browser. However, it carries a steep price, key-stroke logging and > sending your private data to a third party. In other words, spyware. This is why I /never/ allow toolbars to be installed on my computer. They aren't necessary and as far as I'm concerned they are ALL spyware. I have this vision of having no screen visable if I were to download all the toolbars being offered. I won't install Chrome either (Google has too many fingers in too many pies) and don't like Firefox because it overrides the settings for my preferred browser which is not IE. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

At 06:48 AM 8/9/2013, you wrote: >I won't install Chrome either (Google has too many fingers in too many >pies) and don't like Firefox because it overrides the settings for my >preferred browser which is not IE. Although Firefox is my default browser, I have ALL of the browsers installed for testing purposes. I want to make sure the sites I develop display in all browsers not just the one I choose to use. pat

Ralph, Thanks for the "heads up" on this toolbar behavior. This reminded me of the trap one creates for oneself when saving passwords in the Chrome browser. Those passwords are not secure, and any one who has access to that browser on your computer, including spyware, can access them easily. If you use Chrome, and save passwords when prompted, then copy and paste the following into the browser address field:- chrome://settings/passwords You'll be presented with a list of saved passwords, initially showing the site and the email address you used. Click on the email address, the SHOW button, and there you are. Anyone can access your passwords! There is one basic principle in life, and that is if storing passwords is made easy, then retrieving them will also be easy! Barry ------------------------- On Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:51:17 +1200, Ralph Taylor wrote in part: > This is a warning for Firefox and Chrome users. The Babylon toolbar > add-on > looks attractive at first glance; it purports to translate directly from > your Web browser. However, it carries a steep price, key-stroke logging > and > sending your private data to a third party. In other words, spyware. >

I am curious which browser you use? Just being nosy. On 08/09/2013 05:48 AM, Charani wrote: > I won't install Chrome either (Google has too many fingers in too many > pies) and don't like Firefox because it overrides the settings for my > preferred browser which is not IE. -- A cat is a puzzle with no solution. Cats are tiny little women in fur coats. When you get all full of yourself try giving orders to a cat. _ _... ..._ _ _._ ._ ..... ._.. ... .._

This is for my "family" site, in Towns directory. I received permission to copy content from a defunct website and put the items on my website. But the only copy is on the Wayback Machine (WB) which does not show View Source of the original webpages. http://web.archive.org/web/20070104080603/http://www.washpa.net/graphics/map-improvement.jpg That page shows a gif map. Mouse-over shows a magnifier; the image enlarges when clicked. WB did not archive IF the site used 2 images, small and large. I reduced the size of one copy; kept the other copy large. I found a forum http://www.lissaexplains.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56372 gives many ways to do a magnifier. I picked the 3rd way posted by "EhraniNavy n00bzilla " -- the 3rd way keeps script and images on the same page. Copied below::: Option 3) Use CSS and Javascript to display a bigger picture on the same page when the user clicks the smaller image. Well you need to put both images on the same page, but add "display: none" to the bigger one. Also give both of them unique names: HTML Code: <...img src="smaller_image.jpg" id="myuniquename" /> <...img src="bigger_image.jpg" id="myuniquename2" style="display:none" /> Now, write them javscript code that closes the other one HTML Code: <....script type="text/javascript"> //this function opens one and closes the other function showCloseLevel(idOpen, idClose) { //Show idOpen document.getElementById(idOpen).style.display = ""; //Close idClose document.getElementById(idClose).style.display = "none"; } <.../script> Now just add the links to the images from above HTML Code: <...a href="javascript:showCloseLevel('myuniquename2', 'myuniquename')"><...img src="smaller_image.jpg" id="myuniquename" /></a> <...a href="javascript:showCloseLevel('myuniquename', 'myuniquename2')"><...img src="bigger_image.jpg" id="myuniquename2" style="display:none" /></a> I put the script in the Head -- right after the on-page style info. I wasn't sure where to put the 2 sets of html code, so I listed one set followed by the next set. Problem 1: The way I described above with where I put the codes, the page just shows the 2 images, one after the other... then a second set of two images. Problem 2: When I switch from HTML view to Preview, Frontpage says it needs to stop running the script on that page. Problem 3: I can't get the page to upload-- I'll try again tonight. Question: What is the easiest way to do what I want the pic to do? When these tricks don't work, I end up just making a link to the larger version... but it'd be nice if a magnifier could do the same thing rather than a link. Judy -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/

Thanks for the heads up. Jelayne On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Ralph Taylor <rt-sails@comcast.net> wrote: > This is a warning for Firefox and Chrome users. The Babylon toolbar add-on > looks attractive at first glance; it purports to translate directly from > your Web browser. However, it carries a steep price, key-stroke logging and > sending your private data to a third party. In other words, spyware. > > After being out of town for a while and booting up my desktop, I noticed > that my Google search page had been replaced by Delta Search - and it came > back on every re-boot. This is a key symptom of infection, along with your > system appearing to run slowly. I suspect I picked it up during a Mozilla > Firefox update and there was a delay before it activated. > > Some digging at http://www.besttechtips.org/how-to-remove-delta-toolbar/and > http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-babylon-toolbar.html gave me some info and > help. A scan with AVG started the removal process and I followed up > manually > by deleting (many) files AVG had missed. A subsequent AVG scan didn't find > it. > > This is a tricky & persistent little beast. It installs itself in several > locations, changes your system settings and registry file and comes back if > you don't get it all. Some of the files have read-only attributes, so they > can't be deleted by Windows Explorer. > -rt_/) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 04:28 PM 8/7/2013, you wrote: >Where in Filezilla can I exclude the _vti folders? > >I added _vti to Xenu exclusion list so Xenu doesn't show those >directories/pages as broken links anymore....thank goodness! > >Fixing broken links is a big pain... grumble. ====================== These are the instructions I used. https://wiki.filezilla-project.org/Filename_Filters I normally publish all sites using EW except test sites I am working on. I only use FIlezilla occasionally but adding the filter did keep those _vti folders from publishing pat

At 04:03 PM 8/7/2013, you wrote: >Pat I do not use the extensions front page has ... but when I was at >my goDaddy site I removed a vti type folder and everything in that >website was scrambled are you really sure those are not needed?? > >I had to re-upload the entire website including those stupid vti or >vit folders before everything cleared back up. They are NOT needed on the server if you are NOT using fpse. If you are which requires publishing to an http url rather than ftp then YES they are needed. The are definitely needed as part of your local site if you expect to rename and move files within FP/EW and have the file associations remain. http://www.expression-web-tips.com/what-are-all-those-_vti-folders-for/ Pat

Pat, Where in Filezilla can I exclude the _vti folders? I added _vti to Xenu exclusion list so Xenu doesn't show those directories/pages as broken links anymore....thank goodness! Fixing broken links is a big pain... grumble. Judy On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Patricia Geary <patgeary@comcast.net> wrote: > > You can set Filezilla NOT to publish these folders. The same is true > if you are using Expression Web. > >

This is a warning for Firefox and Chrome users. The Babylon toolbar add-on looks attractive at first glance; it purports to translate directly from your Web browser. However, it carries a steep price, key-stroke logging and sending your private data to a third party. In other words, spyware. After being out of town for a while and booting up my desktop, I noticed that my Google search page had been replaced by Delta Search - and it came back on every re-boot. This is a key symptom of infection, along with your system appearing to run slowly. I suspect I picked it up during a Mozilla Firefox update and there was a delay before it activated. Some digging at http://www.besttechtips.org/how-to-remove-delta-toolbar/ and http://www.2-spyware.com/remove-babylon-toolbar.html gave me some info and help. A scan with AVG started the removal process and I followed up manually by deleting (many) files AVG had missed. A subsequent AVG scan didn't find it. This is a tricky & persistent little beast. It installs itself in several locations, changes your system settings and registry file and comes back if you don't get it all. Some of the files have read-only attributes, so they can't be deleted by Windows Explorer. -rt_/)

At 03:30 PM 8/7/2013, you wrote: >Like I said, Filezilla says problem "Creating Directory". > >Previously, vti folders uploaded. Now, updated vti folders don't upload. > Just wondered why and if I should do something differently? Maybe Filezilla doesn't like directory names beginning with underscore? Just kidding. More likely is that the directory contains disallowed file types, so since the Freepages server rejects the files, the directory to contain them is not created either. Pat A.

At 02:07 PM 8/7/2013, Ralph Taylor wrote: >Judy, the _vti, _cnf, etc. folders are purely for FrontPage use. They are >unnecessary on the remote site. (Unless relying on FrontPage extensions?) Freepages does not support FPSE so the folders are not necessary. If you publish within FRONTPAGE, the folders should not be published. You can set Filezilla NOT to publish these folders. The same is true if you are using Expression Web. pat

Like I said, Filezilla says problem "Creating Directory". Previously, vti folders uploaded. Now, updated vti folders don't upload. Just wondered why and if I should do something differently? Judy On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> wrote: > At 02:07 PM 8/7/2013, Ralph Taylor wrote: > > Judy, if Filezilla creates a session log, that should tell you why > the upload could not be completed. > > > Pat A. > >

At 02:07 PM 8/7/2013, Ralph Taylor wrote: >Judy, the _vti, _cnf, etc. folders are purely for FrontPage use. They are >unnecessary on the remote site. (Unless relying on FrontPage extensions?) Which Freepages does not -- it is Linux based. Also note that file types are restricted on Freepages. It was easier to impose restrictions than to try to keep up with prohibited files types such as exe, cgi, perl, hta, mpg, etc. That may be why Judy used to be able to upload the front page folders and their contents, but now has trouble doing so. Judy, if Filezilla creates a session log, that should tell you why the upload could not be completed. Pat A.

Pat I do not use the extensions front page has ... but when I was at my goDaddy site I removed a vti type folder and everything in that website was scrambled are you really sure those are not needed?? I had to re-upload the entire website including those stupid vti or vit folders before everything cleared back up. Nelda http://www.the-reason-is-love.com This is a website created to gather information of Shelters, Groups, Individuals who work to support abandoned and abused animals in Europe. We have laws to protect animals and enforcement of those laws, in the USA. Most countries in Europe have the laws but no enforcement due mostly to graft. If your interested in helping please visit my website. From: nelda_percival@hotmail.com To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [FreeHelp] Frontpage hidden folders and Freepages Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 14:56:33 -0500 Freepages file manager allows you to create folders. If you have a LARGE website and would like to organize it - folders are really handy. example: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ (this first forward slash indicates a folder) it direst the browser to look in a folder or sub directory... http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin (~bonsteinandgilpin being the name of the folder my site is in... Next... could be the sections of your website. From my index page (homepage)listed above it goes to my sitemap: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/sitemap.htm At the site map you can go anyplace /section you want as in: Surnames link... http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/surname-index.htm notice here that surname-index.htm is on the same level as the site map, but the address for the surnames: at this link example: the a listings is - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/a/aa-index.htm not each forward slash indicates a subfolder or a level with in your website. itg can just tell the browser to look for a different page. organizing your pictures/graphics is important also.. in my site I have a sub folder in each section for the pictures used in that section.. Folders or sub directories are used for organizing, which can be very important. If you are creating more then say 10 pages I sugest using sub directories / folders from the start.. saves going back and trying to fix problems. Also what you name your page is important - if you can see your html in the section known as the head.. you will see something like: (I have to place PERIODS HERE OR YOUR BROWSER WILL READ IT) <.title>BONSTEIN AND CUPP AND GILLOCK AND GILPIN at the castles of my mind genealogy<./title> what you have here is how you will be listed in the index and search engines... Go look at free pages H see all the "home page" listings or go look at "my genealogy"... Use a prominent surname - use something important that is how I "your lost cousin" will find you... Hope this helps Nelda http://www.the-reason-is-love.com This is a website created to gather information of Shelters, Groups, Individuals who work to support abandoned and abused animals in Europe. We have laws to protect animals and enforcement of those laws, in the USA. Most countries in Europe have the laws but no enforcement due mostly to graft. If your interested in helping please visit my website. > From: rt-sails@comcast.net > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 12:07:57 -0600 > Subject: [FreeHelp] Frontpage hidden folders and Freepages > > Judy, the _vti, _cnf, etc. folders are purely for FrontPage use. They are > unnecessary on the remote site. (Unless relying on FrontPage extensions?) > > -rt_/) > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 22:56:44 -0400 > From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> > Subject: [FreeHelp] Frontpage hidden folders and Freepages > To: "LIST_freepages-help@rootsweb.com" <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CAE5hz-BjnHPQZtwyfy5_z_J4xeW-t_7wTpK6keYi=8jaEVs5+w@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Frontpage creates hidden folders to manage the site organization and links. > Most are _vti folders (directories). > > When I first uploaded my websites, the _vti folders went onto freepages > without problems. > > But lately, I notice with Filezilla that Freepages has trouble making _vti > directories. Why? Should I do anything or not worry about it? > > Judy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Freepages file manager allows you to create folders. If you have a LARGE website and would like to organize it - folders are really handy. example: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ (this first forward slash indicates a folder) it direst the browser to look in a folder or sub directory... http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin (~bonsteinandgilpin being the name of the folder my site is in... Next... could be the sections of your website. From my index page (homepage)listed above it goes to my sitemap: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/sitemap.htm At the site map you can go anyplace /section you want as in: Surnames link... http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/surname-index.htm notice here that surname-index.htm is on the same level as the site map, but the address for the surnames: at this link example: the a listings is - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/a/aa-index.htm not each forward slash indicates a subfolder or a level with in your website. itg can just tell the browser to look for a different page. organizing your pictures/graphics is important also.. in my site I have a sub folder in each section for the pictures used in that section.. Folders or sub directories are used for organizing, which can be very important. If you are creating more then say 10 pages I sugest using sub directories / folders from the start.. saves going back and trying to fix problems. Also what you name your page is important - if you can see your html in the section known as the head.. you will see something like: (I have to place PERIODS HERE OR YOUR BROWSER WILL READ IT) <.title>BONSTEIN AND CUPP AND GILLOCK AND GILPIN at the castles of my mind genealogy<./title> what you have here is how you will be listed in the index and search engines... Go look at free pages H see all the "home page" listings or go look at "my genealogy"... Use a prominent surname - use something important that is how I "your lost cousin" will find you... Hope this helps Nelda http://www.the-reason-is-love.com This is a website created to gather information of Shelters, Groups, Individuals who work to support abandoned and abused animals in Europe. We have laws to protect animals and enforcement of those laws, in the USA. Most countries in Europe have the laws but no enforcement due mostly to graft. If your interested in helping please visit my website. > From: rt-sails@comcast.net > To: freepages-help@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 12:07:57 -0600 > Subject: [FreeHelp] Frontpage hidden folders and Freepages > > Judy, the _vti, _cnf, etc. folders are purely for FrontPage use. They are > unnecessary on the remote site. (Unless relying on FrontPage extensions?) > > -rt_/) > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 22:56:44 -0400 > From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> > Subject: [FreeHelp] Frontpage hidden folders and Freepages > To: "LIST_freepages-help@rootsweb.com" <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <CAE5hz-BjnHPQZtwyfy5_z_J4xeW-t_7wTpK6keYi=8jaEVs5+w@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Frontpage creates hidden folders to manage the site organization and links. > Most are _vti folders (directories). > > When I first uploaded my websites, the _vti folders went onto freepages > without problems. > > But lately, I notice with Filezilla that Freepages has trouble making _vti > directories. Why? Should I do anything or not worry about it? > > Judy > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, the _vti, _cnf, etc. folders are purely for FrontPage use. They are unnecessary on the remote site. (Unless relying on FrontPage extensions?) -rt_/) Message: 1 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 22:56:44 -0400 From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> Subject: [FreeHelp] Frontpage hidden folders and Freepages To: "LIST_freepages-help@rootsweb.com" <freepages-help@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <CAE5hz-BjnHPQZtwyfy5_z_J4xeW-t_7wTpK6keYi=8jaEVs5+w@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Frontpage creates hidden folders to manage the site organization and links. Most are _vti folders (directories). When I first uploaded my websites, the _vti folders went onto freepages without problems. But lately, I notice with Filezilla that Freepages has trouble making _vti directories. Why? Should I do anything or not worry about it? Judy

Frontpage creates hidden folders to manage the site organization and links. Most are _vti folders (directories). When I first uploaded my websites, the _vti folders went onto freepages without problems. But lately, I notice with Filezilla that Freepages has trouble making _vti directories. Why? Should I do anything or not worry about it? Judy

Well the last post was intended to be off list, as it had an attachment. Not to worry, the file I sent Judy was very basic and had:- (a) A meta redirect after 5 seconds to the home page of the site. (b) The USGenWeb logo near the top of the page, on a white background. (c) Below it and centered "Access not authorized!" (d) With an option to click the link offered if the redirect hadn't happened after 5 seconds. The page title is "Unauthorized Access", and there are no meta tags giving description, content or anything else for that matter. No need, the file is just preventing directory listings of data linked to from other pages. One thing I forgot to do was add:- <meta name="robots" content="noindex, nofollow"> ..which should tell the 'nice' robots precisely what to do. Barry On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:05:24 +1200, Barry Carlson <barrycarlson@vodafone.co.nz> wrote: > Judy, > > OFF LIST > > The the directory 'guard' index page, is just that. It doesn't need to > advertise itself or even have a fancy title. > > I've attached one which will work on the ~pawashin site. Rename it to > index.html when you have loaded it, and use it anywhere on the site where > you don't want directory listings. > > Barry > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEPAGES-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message