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    1. [FreeHelp]Freepages websites
    2. Pat, As it has been nearly two months since any mention about our websites, any update would be welcome. Do you or anyone reading this list have any news regarding when we might begin to see some of the websites uploaded? I can surely use the time to get my website updated but it really would be nice to have some idea - if possible! - of when that might happen. Thank you! Linda -----Original Message----- From: Pat Asher <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:01 AM To: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]> Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: [email protected] At 10:53 AM 4/15/2018, hutley wrote: >Good morning List, > >I wrote to the above individual requesting information about our >Freepages at Rootsweb.com.... <SNIP> Heidi, We have been told that web sites are next on the todo list, after the mailing lists are completed. See <https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected] /message/QYSLUI3KPJX46WFE265NJIPXYKMATZQ6/> Pat A.

    05/22/2018 03:30:23
    1. [FreeHelp]Web hosting alternatives until Freepages are available again
    2. Ann McClean
    3. As long as you have a hard copy of your website on your PC/laptop, my solution may help Back in January, I found a free web hosting setup - based on Norfolk Island in the Pacific Ocean. https://www.biz.nf/ My new domain is www.annmcclean.co.nf/ Took a lot of well needed editing to get ready to upload using http://www.coreftp.com/ So I now have a mirror of my Freepages family history site - with many new additions.   HTH. Regards,  Ann CAWTHORN, SCOTT,  & DeSILVA PALMER Family History Pages: http://www.annmcclean.co.nf/ <http://www.annmcclean.co.uk/> http://www.annmcclean.co.uk/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cawthorn/ <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ecawthorn/>

    05/22/2018 02:46:26
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 29
    2. Billie Walsh
    3. Heres a link to your pages on archive.org [note the "org" not "com" ] https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~janarmstrong and, the address to your site is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~janarmstrong On 05/20/2018 07:29 PM, Jan Armstrong wrote: > Thanks Colleen, but Archives.com tells me the site was unresponsive and they are working to fix things > Any other ideas?? My URL washttp://Rootsweb.ancestry.com~janarmstrong. > I appreciate any help you can provide. I spent 60 years gathering all that data BC (before computers) then spent many months loading all of it to Rootsweb for safekeeping, and now I can't find it..heartbreaking. Yes I still have the hard copies, packed away in boxes, many many boxes. I hope you can help me recover, please > Thank you so very much. > Jan Armstrong > > Sent from my iPad -- There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order.

    05/20/2018 07:27:55
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 29
    2. Jan Armstrong
    3. Thanks Colleen, but Archives.com tells me the site was unresponsive and they are working to fix things Any other ideas?? My URL was http://Rootsweb.ancestry.com~janarmstrong. I appreciate any help you can provide. I spent 60 years gathering all that data BC (before computers) then spent many months loading all of it to Rootsweb for safekeeping, and now I can't find it..heartbreaking. Yes I still have the hard copies, packed away in boxes, many many boxes. I hope you can help me recover, please Thank you so very much. Jan Armstrong Sent from my iPad > On May 20, 2018, at 5:10 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of FREEPAGES-HELP digest..." > > When replying to a digest message, quote only the specific message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > ***FREEPAGES HELP & FAQ*** > <http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/FAQ/fpindex.html> > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Forgive the cross-postings (JFlorian) > 2. Re: Forgive the cross-postings (Bryan) > 3. Gertrude Ramey Children's Home web pages ([email protected]) > 4. Re: Gertrude Ramey Children's Home web pages (Billie Walsh) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 04:12:26 -0400 > From: JFlorian <[email protected]> > Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Forgive the cross-postings > To: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], > [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > "This is the new url for Ros Davies renowned website on Ireland and > particularly County Down. It used to be on Rootsweb Freepages which have > drifted into nowhere (Ancestry may want to note what they have made their > customers lose)." > > === > > THAT is the statement I reacted to, along with the whining lots of people > have done. Hysteria! Been courteous... been respectful... sometimes, a > reality check is necessary. > > It's offline. Call Ancestry to complain. Or go weed your garden and be > thankful for your physical mobility. Come back in your house and pour > yourself some iced tea, and be joyous that you have 2 hands that work.... > LOTS more important in life than websites.... and you have "lost" nothing > in all this.... nothing. Learn patience--- everything does not run on your > command. > > I'd hate to see how folks would deal with stuff if suddenly their whole > LIFE changed from a physical challenge. Geesh, get a grip. It is JUST a > website. Don't worry... it will come back. BTW, the RW side of > programmers has always been small--- be glad for whoever we do have working > on this. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 20:50:43 +1200 > From: "Bryan" <[email protected]> > Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Forgive the cross-postings > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I wasn't going to get into a tit for tat on this thread, but the owner of this list needs to take some notice of, and rein in the rantings, totally off topic, of this person. > > On 20-May-18 8:37:17 PM, JFlorian <[email protected]> wrote: > "This is the new url for Ros Davies renowned website on Ireland and > particularly County Down. It used to be on Rootsweb Freepages which have > drifted into nowhere (Ancestry may want to note what they have made their > customers lose)." > > === > > THAT is the statement I reacted to, along with the whining lots of people > have done. Hysteria! Been courteous... been respectful... sometimes, a > reality check is necessary. > > It's offline. Call Ancestry to complain. Or go weed your garden and be > thankful for your physical mobility. Come back in your house and pour > yourself some iced tea, and be joyous that you have 2 hands that work.... > LOTS more important in life than websites.... and you have "lost" nothing > in all this.... nothing. Learn patience--- everything does not run on your > command. > > I'd hate to see how folks would deal with stuff if suddenly their whole > LIFE changed from a physical challenge. Geesh, get a grip. It is JUST a > website. Don't worry... it will come back. BTW, the RW side of > programmers has always been small--- be glad for whoever we do have working > on this. > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 06:26:18 -0400 > From: <[email protected]> > Subject: [FreeHelp]Gertrude Ramey Children's Home web pages > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hello, is it possible to know what has happened to the profiles and photos > I had posted to the website. Ancestry.com seems to have confiscated the > lives of hundreds of special children. These children depend upon this > website to show them where they grew up and to read the interviews. What a > loss this has been. Lydia Justice Edwards [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 20 May 2018 06:10:28 -0500 > From: Billie Walsh <[email protected]> > Subject: [FreeHelp]Re: Gertrude Ramey Children's Home web pages > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > > No one confiscated anything. Nothing is "lost". Right now Rootsweb is > off line while they do updates to their system. Admittedly they are not > very good at communicating what's going on but in time all will return. > As Judy pointed out we just need to have patience. The website has some > updates on what's happening. > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ > > Not much but....................... > > > >> On 05/20/2018 05:26 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> Hello, is it possible to know what has happened to the profiles and photos >> I had posted to the website. Ancestry.com seems to have confiscated the >> lives of hundreds of special children. These children depend upon this >> website to show them where they grew up and to read the interviews. What a >> loss this has been. Lydia Justice Edwards [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ >> >> Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ >> >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > -- > There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. > Please use in that order. > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)[email protected] > > To post a message to the FREEPAGES-HELP mailing list -- [email protected], send an email to %(real_name)[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)[email protected]%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 29 > **********************************************

    05/20/2018 06:29:15
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: Gertrude Ramey Children's Home web pages
    2. Patricia Geary
    3. Lydia, I still have all of your pages in my computer. Nothing is lost. Eventually, the will be back online. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 6:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FreeHelp]Gertrude Ramey Children's Home web pages Hello, is it possible to know what has happened to the profiles and photos I had posted to the website. Ancestry.com seems to have confiscated the lives of hundreds of special children. These children depend upon this website to show them where they grew up and to read the interviews. What a loss this has been

    05/20/2018 04:03:07
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: My missing page!
    2. Billie Walsh
    3. After all the posts in the past couple days do we REALLY need to answer that? NO! It's not gone forever. It just seems like it has been. On 05/20/2018 08:01 AM, Jan Armstrong wrote: > Please please tell me when my page will be back up. > Jan's Web Page. Is it gone forever?? > > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > -- There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order.

    05/20/2018 02:07:59
    1. [FreeHelp]Copyright was Re: ancestry
    2. Pat Asher
    3. At 07:17 AM 5/20/2018, Glen peddy via FREEPAGES-HELP wrote: >I am very UNHAPPY with ancestry! Can they, after a certain time >period of OUR content being off line, take our material and claim it >for their own and then charge, even us, to see it on line? ? Since my own copyright page is off line along with your Freepages site <grin> I'll refer you to the USGenWeb Copyright page, which also addresses the copyright of genealogy and family history. http://usgenweb.org/volunteers/copyright.html Pat Asher

    05/20/2018 12:30:35
    1. [FreeHelp]My missing page!
    2. Jan Armstrong
    3. Please please tell me when my page will be back up. Jan's Web Page. Is it gone forever?? Sent from my iPad

    05/20/2018 07:01:38
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: FREEPAGES-HELP Digest, Vol 13, Issue 30
    2. Ruth Mather
    3. Don't be too sure! On 5/20/2018 7:44 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Also, there is a time frame on copyright where it becomes public > information. In our case I believe it is our lifetime plus 70 years. I > somehow don't see Rootsweb being offline for that time frame.

    05/20/2018 05:59:33
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: ancestry
    2. Billie Walsh
    3. I'm not a copyright lawyer so I can't answer that portion. What I can say is that any information you have that is public information and freely available on other locations they can post on the for-pay side if they wish. The only thing that is "yours" is the formatting. The way in which you present it. That is your personal work and intellectual property. Also, there is a time frame on copyright where it becomes public information. In our case I believe it is our lifetime plus 70 years. I somehow don't see Rootsweb being offline for that time frame. On 05/20/2018 06:17 AM, Glen peddy via FREEPAGES-HELP wrote: > I am very UNHAPPY with ancestry! Can they, after a certain time period of OUR content being off line, take our material and claim it for their own and then charge, even us, to see it on line? ? > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > -- There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order.

    05/20/2018 05:44:10
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: ancestry
    2. JFlorian
    3. Shortest answer: No.

    05/20/2018 05:25:48
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: Forgive the cross-postings
    2. JFlorian
    3. I'm not off-topic. We are not Ancestry's "customers". We have not "lost" nothing. Whining over the issue won't make the websites come back any faster. And there are bigger ills in life than down, FREE, websites..

    05/20/2018 05:25:07
    1. [FreeHelp]ancestry
    2. Glen peddy
    3. I am very UNHAPPY with ancestry! Can they, after a certain time period of OUR content being off line, take our material and claim it for their own and then charge, even us, to see it on line? ?

    05/20/2018 05:17:03
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: Gertrude Ramey Children's Home web pages
    2. Billie Walsh
    3. No one confiscated anything. Nothing is "lost". Right now Rootsweb is off line while they do updates to their system. Admittedly they are not very good at communicating what's going on but in time all will return. As Judy pointed out we just need to have patience. The website has some updates on what's happening. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Not much but....................... On 05/20/2018 05:26 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Hello, is it possible to know what has happened to the profiles and photos > I had posted to the website. Ancestry.com seems to have confiscated the > lives of hundreds of special children. These children depend upon this > website to show them where they grew up and to read the interviews. What a > loss this has been. Lydia Justice Edwards [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > -- There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order.

    05/20/2018 05:10:28
    1. [FreeHelp]Gertrude Ramey Children's Home web pages
    2. Hello, is it possible to know what has happened to the profiles and photos I had posted to the website. Ancestry.com seems to have confiscated the lives of hundreds of special children. These children depend upon this website to show them where they grew up and to read the interviews. What a loss this has been. Lydia Justice Edwards [email protected]

    05/20/2018 04:26:18
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: Forgive the cross-postings
    2. Bryan
    3. I wasn't going to get into a tit for tat on this thread, but the owner of this list needs to take some notice of, and rein in the rantings, totally off topic, of this person. On 20-May-18 8:37:17 PM, JFlorian <[email protected]> wrote: "This is the new url for Ros Davies renowned website on Ireland and particularly County Down. It used to be on Rootsweb Freepages which have drifted into nowhere (Ancestry may want to note what they have made their customers lose)." === THAT is the statement I reacted to, along with the whining lots of people have done. Hysteria! Been courteous... been respectful... sometimes, a reality check is necessary. It's offline. Call Ancestry to complain. Or go weed your garden and be thankful for your physical mobility. Come back in your house and pour yourself some iced tea, and be joyous that you have 2 hands that work.... LOTS more important in life than websites.... and you have "lost" nothing in all this.... nothing. Learn patience--- everything does not run on your command. I'd hate to see how folks would deal with stuff if suddenly their whole LIFE changed from a physical challenge. Geesh, get a grip. It is JUST a website. Don't worry... it will come back. BTW, the RW side of programmers has always been small--- be glad for whoever we do have working on this. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    05/20/2018 02:50:43
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: Forgive the cross-postings
    2. JFlorian
    3. "This is the new url for Ros Davies renowned website on Ireland and particularly County Down. It used to be on Rootsweb Freepages which have drifted into nowhere (Ancestry may want to note what they have made their customers lose)." === THAT is the statement I reacted to, along with the whining lots of people have done. Hysteria! Been courteous... been respectful... sometimes, a reality check is necessary. It's offline. Call Ancestry to complain. Or go weed your garden and be thankful for your physical mobility. Come back in your house and pour yourself some iced tea, and be joyous that you have 2 hands that work.... LOTS more important in life than websites.... and you have "lost" nothing in all this.... nothing. Learn patience--- everything does not run on your command. I'd hate to see how folks would deal with stuff if suddenly their whole LIFE changed from a physical challenge. Geesh, get a grip. It is JUST a website. Don't worry... it will come back. BTW, the RW side of programmers has always been small--- be glad for whoever we do have working on this.

    05/20/2018 02:12:26
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: Forgive the cross-postings
    2. Billie Walsh
    3. It's just a bit more complicated than a simple security check. They have been updating servers and moving things to the new servers. I don't know about anyone else here but I hate to think about how many mega [ giga? ] bytes my sites take up. Multiply that by the number of subscribers. I'm sure the data goes well past terabytes [ petabytes? ] of data that has to be moved and checked. Simple security check indeed. I also challenge anyone to find someplace else that will give you ten virtually unlimited sites for the out of pocket expense of Rootsweb/Ancestry. Again, I can't speak for anyone else but myself, but Rootsweb/Ancestry has never asked me for a dime.  Is it truly free. No. It's costing someone out the rectum for all we get. Don't get me wrong. I'm no happier than anyone else with the situation. If it was a for-pay site I would be all over someone like stink on skunk. I have stuff that I need to update. There are people asking me about the things I have posted and when it will be back. On 05/19/2018 06:48 PM, TilburyCM via FREEPAGES-HELP wrote: > Dear Judy and listers, > > > "But RW/Ancestry having websites offline is not one of the world's great > injustices." > > > The items you list are certainly worse in their effects - but that's no reason for lack of respect and normal courtesy: or is that just "the American way of life?" > > > > As for "free" and "given"; work out the approximate number of your pages which are visited per year; multiply that by the number of years Ancestry has been adding headers and footers to the Freepages; then multiply that by 2 (header + footer); then multiply that by (at least) 2 of your currency. Then divide the total by the same number of years "with" Ancestry. Compare the result with the normal annual cost of a website + domain name. > > > > Add the total difference to the money Ancestry has been taking from its clients who visit Freepages within the Ancestry setup ... Our websites have been a very paying concern. > > > Moreover, since the deal which transferred Rootsweb to Ancestry did not include the individual website holder's signature, the page content is our property, as is the IP. (At least Ancestry was sufficiently aware to put their advertising banners top and bottom: around our content, not within it.) In fact, Ancestry should have been paying to us any money obtained by selling our property to their clients. (My estimate of 2 of any currency for the calculation is, where advertising is concerned, a very conservative one.) > > > > Supposing Ancestry were to recode all our pages, then publish them onsite as their property ... ? Just a thought; after all, 6 months is an awfully long time for a security check. Any commercial IT specialist would fall about laughing at anyone even suggesting it might somehow be justified.. > > > > Ah well, here's hoping, > > Caroline > > > ____ > > Once upon a time ... > "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury > "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html > > Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. > > NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French copyright law. > > > > > -----E-mail d'origine----- > De : JFlorian <[email protected]> > A: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]> > Cc: irl-offaly <[email protected]>; aus-nsw <[email protected]>; irl-kerry <[email protected]>; aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley <[email protected]>; aus-pt-jackson-convicts <[email protected]>; irl-dublin <[email protected]>; irl-wicklow <[email protected]> > Envoyé le : Di, 20 Mai 2018 0:55 > Sujet : [FreeHelp]Re: Forgive the cross-postings > > Oh come on! Ancestry did not make anyone "lose" anything. And we > webmasters on Freepages or Rootsweb are NOT customers--- we don't pay one > cent for our spaces. > > Are they taking a long time? Yes. > Is this the end of the world? A big fat NO.. > > There are so many bigger things bad in life. Quit whining about something > you had GIVEN to you-- webspace. Or, call them to tell them your > melodramatic statements. > > Truly bad things in life-- > People in bad health > without limbs > without food > crawling to get to food > walking miles every day to get dirty water > kids growing up without parents > kids kidnapped and trafficked > -- I'm sure we all can add 100 more. > > But RW/Ancestry having websites offline is not one of the world's great > injustices. > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order.

    05/19/2018 09:50:24
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: Forgive the cross-postings
    2. TilburyCM
    3. Dear Judy and listers, "But RW/Ancestry having websites offline is not one of the world's great injustices." The items you list are certainly worse in their effects - but that's no reason for lack of respect and normal courtesy: or is that just "the American way of life?" As for "free" and "given"; work out the approximate number of your pages which are visited per year; multiply that by the number of years Ancestry has been adding headers and footers to the Freepages; then multiply that by 2 (header + footer); then multiply that by (at least) 2 of your currency. Then divide the total by the same number of years "with" Ancestry. Compare the result with the normal annual cost of a website + domain name. Add the total difference to the money Ancestry has been taking from its clients who visit Freepages within the Ancestry setup ... Our websites have been a very paying concern. Moreover, since the deal which transferred Rootsweb to Ancestry did not include the individual website holder's signature, the page content is our property, as is the IP. (At least Ancestry was sufficiently aware to put their advertising banners top and bottom: around our content, not within it.) In fact, Ancestry should have been paying to us any money obtained by selling our property to their clients. (My estimate of 2 of any currency for the calculation is, where advertising is concerned, a very conservative one.) Supposing Ancestry were to recode all our pages, then publish them onsite as their property ... ? Just a thought; after all, 6 months is an awfully long time for a security check. Any commercial IT specialist would fall about laughing at anyone even suggesting it might somehow be justified.. Ah well, here's hoping, Caroline ____ Once upon a time ... "Tilberia" http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~cmtilbury "TheTilbury Magazine" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cmtilbury/ttm/ttm_frontpage.html Every path has its puddle. Life has no reverse gear. NB: an e-mail message remains the Intellectual Property of the sender; traffic on this e-mail server may be normally subject to UK and French copyright law. -----E-mail d'origine----- De : JFlorian <[email protected]> A: Freepages Web Sites <[email protected]> Cc: irl-offaly <[email protected]>; aus-nsw <[email protected]>; irl-kerry <[email protected]>; aus-nsw-hills-hawkesbury-hunter-valley <[email protected]>; aus-pt-jackson-convicts <[email protected]>; irl-dublin <[email protected]>; irl-wicklow <[email protected]> Envoyé le : Di, 20 Mai 2018 0:55 Sujet : [FreeHelp]Re: Forgive the cross-postings Oh come on! Ancestry did not make anyone "lose" anything. And we webmasters on Freepages or Rootsweb are NOT customers--- we don't pay one cent for our spaces. Are they taking a long time? Yes. Is this the end of the world? A big fat NO.. There are so many bigger things bad in life. Quit whining about something you had GIVEN to you-- webspace. Or, call them to tell them your melodramatic statements. Truly bad things in life-- People in bad health without limbs without food crawling to get to food walking miles every day to get dirty water kids growing up without parents kids kidnapped and trafficked -- I'm sure we all can add 100 more. But RW/Ancestry having websites offline is not one of the world's great injustices. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/[email protected]/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    05/19/2018 05:48:34
    1. [FreeHelp]Re: Forgive the cross-postings
    2. JFlorian
    3. Oh come on! Ancestry did not make anyone "lose" anything. And we webmasters on Freepages or Rootsweb are NOT customers--- we don't pay one cent for our spaces. Are they taking a long time? Yes. Is this the end of the world? A big fat NO.. There are so many bigger things bad in life. Quit whining about something you had GIVEN to you-- webspace. Or, call them to tell them your melodramatic statements. Truly bad things in life-- People in bad health without limbs without food crawling to get to food walking miles every day to get dirty water kids growing up without parents kids kidnapped and trafficked -- I'm sure we all can add 100 more. But RW/Ancestry having websites offline is not one of the world's great injustices.

    05/19/2018 04:54:34